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February 15, 2018

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henry

It is the cultural rot, not the weapons.

Bunky

Any info on a Gates plea?

narciso

The news is no longer dead its gone zombie:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/these-libyan-ex-militiamen-were-once-linked-to-al-qaeda-now-they-wield-power-in-a-new-order/2017/09/27/8356abf8-97dd-11e7-af6a-6555caaeb8dc_story.html?utm_term=.3e61d61a1658

Jack is Back!

Lurking from bed. It better be good or I am off to dreamland.

narciso

There was no Florida militia tie, btw

daddy

Here's The HILL story on Trump's former campaign advisor Richard Gates, about to cop a plea with Mueller:

Gates close to plea deal with Mueller in Russia probe: report

A close reading of The Hill story shows that it has nothing to do with Russia, but is supposedly related to some Tax stuff from who knows when and where:

...Mueller’s investigators are planning to file new charges against Gates that are tax-related, sources familiar with the investigation told the network. The additional charges could be used to pressure Gates into cooperating with Mueller’s team.

Additional charges against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort are also being prepared, according to CNN...

So once again, nothing to do with Russian collusion regardless what the headline's imply. I hate Mueller's guts.

henry

Kev, you have mail from our Chitown Lurker re your offer to help Miss M.

Boy, NSA will have as much fun as you will parsing that.

Bunky

Tx Daddy and Narc

Momto2

Momto2:
What was in your green smoothies?

maryrose the base was 3 or 4 fresh fruits - always a banana and some berries (strawberries, blueberries, etc.) My daughter would freeze the banana overnight to cut back on the need for ice. Greek yogurt & a splash of milk (for calcium), almond butter, kale, spinach, chia seeds, raw moriinga leaf powder, anandamide blend powder, & green adaptogen (suma, chlorella, & maca). Although they looked green they tasted like fruit with a hint of almonds. Very tasty and filling - I had one for lunch almost every day for several months.

narciso

This is, or was gates lawyer:
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/01/white-collar-legends-a-conversation-with-tom-green/

Goes back asst atty general in Watergate,

narciso


Paging Brian Ross to the white courtesy phone:

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/964299405196255232?p=v

JimNorCal

It's nice to see Ed become a semi- regular! :) :)

Janet 🚬 -  I wish my family had a poncho

I hate Mueller's guts.

Me too. The special council is looking into tax problems?
WTF do we have an IRS for?

Think of the millions wasted on this special council. It is sickening. Americans are PAYING for those losers to harass the Trump administration.


daddy

Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch was just on with Lou Dobb's sub tonight, Greg Jarrett, and Fitton is even less a fan of Bob Mueller than I am. That's pretty hard to do.


Jarrett:...not only that, we now know with hindsight, based on information that's since been revealed after his (Flynn's) guilty plea, that the FBI had no business even talking to him because his conversation with Kislyiak was in no way a crime. So they were trying to entrap him, by forcing him to have a conversation with him about something that is not criminal.

Fitton: Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe, maybe President Obama, they all had it in for General Flynn, and they conducted, at least Yates and McCabe, along with Peter Strzok's ambush interview with General Flynn, that even the FBI Agents concluded he didn't lie during that interview. What changed between then and now? It was the appointment of Mueller. Mueller has some answering to do about what his use of the dossier has been.

Jarrett: Don't get me started on Mueller and his conflicts of Interest in the partisan Team he has assembled.

anonamom

Nicotine addiction is one thing; damage to the insides of blood vessels is another.

Yes, nicotine can constrict blood vessels, but that is a transient effect; smoking damages the inside --components in the smoke that are absorbed. Permanent narrowing from the atherosclerosis that results.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53012/

MJW, my recollection is that they are thought to act as false neurotransmitters, though I do not know if anyone has done research on the why--just have noted the association, and most important, that the amnesia episodes stop when they are no longer consumed.


No, it's not everybody; it's rare--but if a person is experiencing amnesia and ingesting artificial sweeteners, stop and see if you get better.
And other known compounds that effect mentation, like alcohol.

I'd do that, then work on adding the wine back in :-)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

A, drinking decaf coffee with no sweeteners and water tonight, anonamom.


Also making myself wait for an hour between each cigarette. I will extend that tomorrow.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Did you guys know that South Korea has become a destination place for plastic surgery? Our local channel ran an NBC feature on it.

They specialize in eyes and nose narrowing (probably Asian demand). It was simply fascinating.

jim nj

Kevlar Kid,

Yeah, yeah, yeah is a hearty agreement, not a dismissive.

narciso

I grew up on expresso, and I can't go cold bean, its what keeps these neurons firing, there was something I detected in all these artificial sweeteners, that didn't sit right.

henry

Thanks anonamom. That helps.

jim nj

Kevlar Kid,

I inadvertently posted before finishing my reply.

I also agree with you on the food issue. Food that was more easily found would allow a people to move to a higher level of civilization. And sustain a higher level of population.

And for that matter most of what you went on to say.

narciso

Apparently there ate casinos in busan, it is not a figment of black panther.

daddy on iPhone

Reading about u guys and nicotine I am so happy I never smoked.

Kevlar Kid

"As special counsel, Mueller technically works for the DOJ, so the attorney general has the authority to fire him but only for "misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies."

Hate is a very strong word----> but it fits. I sent the Andy McCarthy "I was wrong" article that Clarice posted last week to Paw.

Paw flew his flag at half mast the next day.

This misconduct of the Deep State is a very sad point in our history.

It's time to torch Rosenstein and appoint a vicious partisan bulldog to destroy Mueller---- who has a clear conflict of interest when it comes to anything "Russia."

Enough.

Source: CNBC, 2017 The Day The Jackwagon Got Appointed

anonamom

The dead of Parkland. Beautiful children. Very brave men.
Senseless loss.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-reg-florida-school-shooting-victims-20180215-story.html

Beasts of England

Heck, the conflict of interest with Mueller himself, vis-à-vis, the FBI and his personal and working relationships with Comey.

narciso

Well there is that, their joint malpractice re hatfill and ivins, conspiring against Gonzalez,
(From his memoir, Al still doesn't know what happened to him)

daddy on iPhone

There is a huge Casino in our downtown Seoul Hotel, so no surprise that there are Casino’s in Busan or Pusan etc.

narciso

Of course they would:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-dnc-nra

Beasts of England

This is for Appalled, re: his question on the previous thread:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/02/echo-chamber-music.php

narciso

No, he still didn't get it after the link.

Porchlight

No love here for FBI leadership, but I don't understand the criticism of the FBI for not tracking down this particular perp.

1) They had to find him. Yes, his YouTube comment was reported but they had no way of knowing his username was his real name.

2) Let's say they could track him down before he did anything. What do they arrest him for? A YouTube comment? Being weird?

Given the volume of reported threats, the difficulty of separating credible from non-credible threats, and the civil liberty issues involved, I can't fault the FBI here.

What am I missing?

Beasts of England

Am I late to the link party, narciso? At least I didn't plagiarize JiB again. I hope...

narciso

Contrast the laser focus on everyone in trumps entourage, whereas the failure to follow up, on two different occasions.

narciso

No, he swallows the narrative like the whale did to jonah.

JimNorCal

daddy, I love your visual essays!
So I hope you will not be annoyed if, from time to time, I post an image that triggers in me the thought "hey, maybe daddy will save this away and use it someday!"

Saw this at BJG blog, though likely it originates at 4chan. Surely, sez I, this'll come in handy.

N as Miss Marple

You know, I think a lot of this has to do with the overload of information and noise in modern lives.

We are trained to think things should be instant. We have far more distractions in our lives than when I was in high school. We have a lot of people who are disconnected from their families, who live their lives on line. Ther are no boundaries on line for sex, violence, or hurtful language, either. ( This is a quiet corner of the internet here at JOM.)

I just think some people are vulnerable to all of these distractions and it causes them to shatter.

narciso

Yes they are drowning in it, gates and Zuckerberg and ballmer Murdoch, (although Myspace isn't a thing anymore)

narciso

And yet you would be surprised what gets through the filter at educational institutions (perhaps not)

James D.

Given the volume of reported threats, the difficulty of separating credible from non-credible threats, and the civil liberty issues involved, I can't fault the FBI here.

I can. They are paid lavishly, given tremendous power, have enormous resources at their disposal, and ignore civil liberties and laws whenever it suits them without any consequence.

In return for all that, they can at least catch bad guys once in a while, especially when said bad guys brag online using their real name about the multiple murders they are planning to commit.

After the revelations we've seen concerning the corruption that apparently runs rampant in the FBIs leadership (and the deafening silence from the supposedly good and honest rank and file), I am not willing to cut anybody there any slack at all.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Given the volume of reported threats, the difficulty of separating credible from non-credible threats, and the civil liberty issues involved, I can't fault the FBI here.

What am I missing?

For one thing how easy it is to trace an IP back to a location. They didn't even bother to do that.

Buckeye

Some recent Sierra Hull.

https://youtu.be/l2QaCycSFrU

Buckeye

What am I missing?

Maybe that they are too busy pretending to look for Rooskies under rocks.

henry

Stephanie, how hard is it to trace an account in the guy's legal name? Perp on a silver platter.

Momto2

Porch - it seems they could at least have interviewed him - assessed him and would have probably realized he was off. Then he should have had a mental health evaluation.

People post awful things online but that was pretty specific. Then, if they had investigated and learned of all of the things we are now hearing from teachers, other students, etc. put 2 and 2 together.

The family he was living with had his gun in a locked cabinet but he had the key! If the FBI came calling, maybe take away the key???

lurkersusie

Tucker Carlson's interview

Could the FBI have stopped Nikolas Cruz? | Fox News Video

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5734808155001/?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

narciso

That was a great find buckeye,


I was doing the medical insurance thing for a while, it's like cutting up a blue whale with a switchblade.

Yes Henry, then again, crowdstrike didn't bother to That, or any further investigation that would have revealed guccifer 2 was rumanian, btw where did Shawn Henry operate among other places in romaniam

Porchlight

Okay, so:

1) The FBI didn't know it was his real name.
2) There are millions of YouTube comments. Even the tiniest toe dipped in reveals that many are violent and disgusting.
3) Therefore it can be assumed that thousands are reported. Any reported comment could be a precedent for a crime, even years later.
4) It is not illegal to claim to be a school shooter on YouTube.
5) What is the legal basis for requesting the IP from Google?
6) What kind of resources are involved in investigating and interviewing every such commenter?
7) Most of them are going to be stupid teenagers.

Needles in haystack. To say the least.

The hindsight people seem to think it's slam dunk.

Do you want the police state necessary to track down and interrogate every online commenter who might engage in wrongspeak?

I don't.

Threadkiller

Here is the bondsman explaining how quickly the FBI contacted him after the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzNwinmBawo

He didn't call them after hearing about the shooting, they contacted him.

Here is a quote of an FBI statement I can't find the source of:


In 2017, the FBI received information about a comment made on a YouTube channel. The comment said, 'I’m going to be a professional school shooter.' No other information was included in the comment which would indicate a particular time, location, or the true identity of the person who posted the comment," said a statement released by Jackson, Miss., FBI field office spokesman Brett Car. "The FBI conducted database reviews and other checks, but was unable to further identify the person who posted the comment."

All the online media pretty much quotes the same thing without sourcing it.

What is a database review? They typed his name into the computer? Good job.

The bondsman also notes that the FBI's "tips" email doesn't work.

Stupid.

Porchlight

Then, if they had investigated and learned of all of the things we are now hearing from teachers, other students, etc. put 2 and 2 together.

Multiply by thousands, maybe tens of thousands of online comments. How much time does that take? How many men and resources?

What do you arrest him for? What's prosecutable? Because just arresting him isn't enough. You have to put him away to prevent a crime. And even that is ultimately temporary.

Remember, "but we have to do something!" are the six most dangerous words in the English language.

Momto2

It seems from Tucker Carlson's interview that they have a big fat book of *rules* that they follow meticulously if it involves a potential school shooting but have not so many qualms when it involves some political opponent they don't like.

narciso

So they say, maybe if we saw the email in question, the local sheriffs dept were also notified eight months before, when they feel motivated they move heaven and earth.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Exactly, Henry.

IP trace to internet provider, provide warrant, get address, interview family and friends and put under 30 day hold and gun confiscation and an add to the banned firearms purchase list.

Too much work when you can be texting your girlfriend and committing sedition instead.

The IP trace and confiscation leads eventually to a closed file in a file cabinet somewhere in the bowels of the bureau. Dreams of sedition and saving a country from Trump - now that is NOBLE and worthy of a documentary praising your actions. What's a few broken lives in pursuit that?

clarice

daddy. in response to your question on the prior thread--I have NO idea.

narciso

Look at the pile of tripe i linked earlier, I could put together a better profile of bel hadj that included the Wikileaks cable that showed he had put the hit on haftars predecessor.

Threadkiller

Free speech doesn't mean you can't expect that your door doesn't get knocked on if you say something really dumb on an open online platform in my opinion.

I get the slippery slope argument. What will be deemed worthy of a visit? Posting that I hate my boss? I would hope that doesn't get the Brown Shirts dropping through my ceiling. But isn't what the prick said a little different?

If Cruz was walking down the street with a shirt that said exactly what he wrote on YouTube, should a cop ask him any questions? Is he invited an interview with law enforcement? I think so.

Do I think they get to perform an illegal search or detain him with zero cause? Absolutely not.

Cruz decided to draw attention to himself.

Porchlight

How many threats, in various forms, do you think the FBI receives every week? Month? Year?

Let's just go all the way and blame Bush for 9/11 while we're at it. I mean they had the intelligence that AQ were possibly going to use planes, right?

Porchlight

Disappointed in y'all. Good night.

Threadkiller

Has he invited..

Buckeye

You make some good points Porch.

I think the answer is better early identification of people with serious psychological issues or mental defects and better treatment regimes.

And better alternatives than prisons after the fact.

Momto2

There is a big long line of things between doing nothing and putting him away.

As I said, do you not think the family would have taken the key from him that unlocked the gun cabinet?

2 - someone says they are going to "become a professional school shooter"
+
2- said person has been expelled from school and "everyone knew he was dangerous"
= take some steps to intervene.

Options might include having a mental health evaluation, alerting the former school, alerting the people who had taken him in after his mother's death, finding out if he had the means to "become a professional school shooter"(what guns if any did he own?), etc.

Since they have the manpower, money, etc. to spend months going after a bogus story about President Trump - surely they can divert one or two days to track down this boy.


GUS

Let me see if I understand this FARCE. Some campaign guy named Richard Gates has his TAX RETURNS investigated without relation to THE RUSSIA HACKED OUR ELECTION CLOWN SHOW.

Rodham is NOT called to account for actually PAYING for the FAKE DOSSIER, and HUMA is still free??????

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

Anyone here familiar with Debra Fritch?

Getting anyone who is an adult into either the criminal or mental (or in her case, both) systems is near impossible.

If you aren't familiar with her do some googling and youtube watching. She is certifiable, banned from numerous locations, a stalker, convicted felon, banned from the internet, under extradition that Oregon doesn't seem to want to enforce to get her back to Colorado to be reincarcerated and still stalking her victims.

The justice system never seems to care about this problem til she turns her sights on them and even then they are worthless.

Seriously do some googling and youtubing and see if you think the justice system is capable of anything.

Threadkiller

Are we allowed to blame anyone for the tip line being non functional?

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Porchlight,

Perhaps local people should take some responsibility, as well as the site where he posted his statement.

In the old days that guy would have become a hermit, or gone off to become a mountain man.

Also, in the old days, the FBI wouldn't have touted themselves as all-seeing, all-knowing, so that people expected them to catch guys like this.

His mother's death probably sent him over the edge, and again, unlike in the old days, he had no extended family or church which could help him out. And once you head down the unhinged path, you aren't going to seek help yourself.

Just a tragedy.

narciso

We want to see how high up the chain of command this went, specially considering what had happened just a few months before in that locality.

Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma

ISTM that Porch is treading awfully close to the immigration argument...

Too many, can't deport em all
Too many, can't investigate them all.

And who said anything about criminal charges? Commit the bastard and he doesn't see the light of day til he is certified 'sane' by a panel of docs and hold the docs accountable if they just run him through the system instead of treating him. Time for some accountability by the law and docs who for the most part pay lip service to their oaths.

GUS

I hope CAPN comes by, and TK. Years ago on ASS of SPADES, there was banter about Ofuktards birth certificate. I glibly commented that, I had no interest in Opie's birth certificate, and would rather see his DEATH CERTIFICATE. Ass Holio of Spades played BEEG MAHN, and threatened to call the SECRET SERVICE on me. How could they EVAH have found me??????

clarice

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/cia-argues-the-public-cant-see-classified-information-it-has-already-given-to-favored-reporters/

Miss Marple the Deplorable

I am heading to bed. I am going out to breakfast with an old high school friend so I need to hit the hay early.

Good night all, and thank you so much for your support and suggestions!

Threadkiller

Narciso posted this at Patterico:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no-there-havent-been-18-school-shooting-in-2018-that-number-is-flat-wrong/2018/02/15/65b6cf72-1264-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html

I immediately thought of the Magpie chirping I caught this morning. Newsbusters summarizes:

She began her rant by citing a misleading and politically-motivated statistic from an anti-gun lobbyist group that all three of the network evening newscasts pushed Wednesday night: “There have been at least 12, at least 12 school shootings in America so far in 2018. It’s February 15th. We’re averaging one just about every three or four days. How are we doing, America? Everyone okay with that?”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2018/02/15/megyn-kelly-nra-too-powerful-our-politicians-are-too-weak

clarice

Before you hit the hay.MM--a quiz--hat is the most valuable beanie baby?

GUS

I agree with Porch, more than I could express.
Unfortunately, we are reaching a breaking point in this country with RESPECT to RESPECT. As MOST of you know, my brother, my OLDER little brother, was SWAT at COLUMBINE. His very first swat CALL. I will NEVER forget that day. I heard about the "MATTER" at Columbine High School in Littleton Co, BEFORE my brother did. I called him from my work, and he immediately said he couldn't chat, as he'd been called to an "incident" (matter). I said, "Yeah, I heard there's a shooting at the high school". He was taken aback and said. "How do you know that?"
I said. "It's the 90's man!!"""

I was scared for 24 hours. Now, it's nearly numbing. Here we go again.
I called my bro tonight, and we chatted and laughed and made fun of morons who have all the answers. He's my little brother, his wife is also a Police Detective in JEFFERSON CTY Colorado, they have 2 beautiful kids 11 and 5. They attend Columbine and Columbine Valley schools.
In my humble opinion, there is no panacea. Guns are not the problem. My boy turns 17 TOMORROW. My beloved son, who ALL OF YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT, and many have seen on YOUTUBE. My son is a great kid, HIGH HONORS student, athlete, EAGLE SCOUT, devout confirmed Catholic in 8th grade, and TRAP SHOOTING LETTERMAN. He owns a gun. Tonight he told me he has felt "so much safer" owning a shot gun, and knowing how to use it.
The LEFT will do what the FULL COMMIE LEFT does.
The troubled kids who do this, are not necessarily mentally ill, rather they are not products of SOUND FAMILIES, homes and upbringing. They have access to weapons, and those charged with RAISING THEM, are asleep at a SWITCH.
We as a NATION and CULTURE, have allowed CHILDREN to be raised by INCAPABLE, Irresponsible, and morally bankrupt adults. How do we fix this.
Richard Fowler, the clown DEM STRATEGIST told me a couple days ago, that we cannot give WELFARE FOOD VOUCHERS, for nutritious food, rather than PORK RINDS, because the GROCERS in the HOOD don't sell TOMATOES and CARROTS.
No, the GROCERS in the hood sell the PRODUCTS that the WELFARE EBT CARD HOLDERS want. If we didn't coddle the dysfuntional, the dysfunctional would not succumb to THE CONSEQUENCES of LOW EXPECTATIONS. In short, we have several generations of ILLOGIC, no critical thinking skills, excuses, and victimhood.

clarice

*what*

fdcol63  🇺🇸

These mass shootings are perpetrated, most usually, by people with serious mental health issues. This is a mental health problem.

One of the major causes of this mental health problem has been the movement for deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill, the desire to destigmatize mental illness, and the use of antipsychotic medications.

As liberals often like to say, “better to let 100 guilty men go free than to convict one innocent person”. The corollary here is “better to let 100 criminally insane serial killers go free than to institutionalize a single normal person”.

But then when a horrific event like this happens, they rush to blame an inanimate object.

We’ve got some really crazy peope walkng the streets who should be locked up for THEIR and OUR protection, but too many people are too afraid to either offend someone’s feelings or stigmatize them or their families, so the option taken is to try out-patient treatment with heavy doses of antipsychotics that have some really nasty and adverse side effects that often trigger mental health episodes that are worse than the original symptoms.

Add these issues to all the other cultural rot that has occurred over the past 40-50 years, and we now have a situation in which no one has the guts to address the REAL and more complex societal factors causing these tragedies.

MJW

MJW, my recollection is that they are thought to act as false neurotransmitters, though I do not know if anyone has done research on the why--just have noted the association, and most important, that the amnesia episodes stop when they are no longer consumed.

If you said that of a particular artificial sweetener, such as aspartame, I may or may not believe the evidence supports it, but I wouldn't dismiss out of hand that it could mimic a neurotransmitter. But I'm very skeptical that a wide range of artificial sweeteners, that are very different in structure, act that way, unless it was somehow directly tied to the similarity that results in sweetness. That seems highly unlikely, and wouldn't explain why natural sweeteners wouldn't act the same way.

I assume since you said it was your recollection, that you don't have some specific study in mind.

narciso

May is who she is this closest, to turn over the UK:


http://.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5395897/Williamson-accuses-Corbyn-having-betrayed-Britain.html

GUS

Fdcol63, the FULL COMMIE left is 24/7 organized paid ,and ideologically in lock step. They IMMMMMMMEDIATELY blame some REPUBLICAN, or Conservative for the actions of a PERP, who is NEITHER. I do not doubt that most of these perps are DISTURBED, but I do not believe that most are MENTALLY ILL, rather EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED, undisciplined, angry and evil. GARBAGE in GARBAGE out. This is not LIL BO PEEP gets sick and buys some guns. I don't have the answers, I do know that the LEFT in AMERICA is/are theselves....DEVOLVING sick FREAKS.

I left the PAPER VALLEY HOTEL yesterday p.m. after a bidness conference. Appleton Wi, 25 miles south of Green Bay. The Green Bay Packers visiting opponents stay there. I walk out into the sunshine, on Valentines Day, and I see 3 women, dressed in red and pink, and I do a double take. Are they selling flowers?? Teddy bears??? Candy??? Balloons????
NOPE. They are dressed to be noticed and their sandwich boards read.......I....HEART....PLANNED PARENTHOOD.... This is THEIR WORLD. We are devolving and our MORAL STANDARDS are passed on by IMMORAL PARENTS, and people who don't care to live as DECENT humans. I raised my son, to be a GOOD HONORABLE, GOD FEARING MAN. He is.
NICK CRUZ, was allowed to be feral.

Beasts of England

I bragged about our seventy degree weather too soon. I've killed two mosquitos today. Grrr.

GUS

Beasts, we reached 40 here. We had a foot of snow on the ground, it's going away fast. It's been a relatively cold winter here in Wisconsin.
I did a wee bit of research.
For the month of FEB. Milwaukee has not had a record HIGH, nor a RECORD low, since the MILLENIUM.
No day set a record high, no day set a record low.

HOW CAN THIS BE???? Including leap years, we've had 58 highs and lows. Not one of them has been this century. HOW CAN THIS BE????

narciso

Because whether is cyclical Gus, this is why Michael Mann cooked the stats, and stein has been through seven years of hell, because he said so

GUS

Michael Mann, is a comical hack. He is an activist, a clown and a fraud.

narciso

Yes, but saying in public, is like uttering a heresy, because the skydragon worshipers are a cult like the thuggee, that's why they went after George David banks, for something he did 5 years ago.

daddy

I saw this headline posted by Clarice at 10:15 and naturaly assumed it had to be either sarcastic or tongue in cheek:

CIA Argues The Public Can’t See Classified Information It Has Already Given To Favored Reporters

Nope. They are serious:

Intelligence officials can selectively release classified information to trusted journalists while withholding the same information from other citizens who request it through open records laws, CIA lawyers argued Wednesday.

In a motion filed in New York federal court, the CIA claimed that limited disclosures to reporters do not waive national security exemptions to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

We're not even a Banana Republic---we're a Banana Cream Pie Republic.


narciso

Of course useful idiot and morning joke is redundant


https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/bill-dagostino/2018/02/15/pro-gun-useful-idiots-are-not-welcome-msnbcs-morning-joe

GUS

Narciso, when you see Michael Mann Hockey fan, co-writing childrens books, spreading the lie, the game is over. The FULL COMMIE, exists on lies and fraud. They believe LYING is FEATURE, not a BUG.

GUS

Daddy, when the CIA asserts such nonsense, you have to ask yourself......who is their BOSS???

narciso

Sometimes they are genuinely keeping info confidential. I have seen little evidence of that. But hypothetically, many times they have fubared like admitting Nazi war criminals under the lodge act, and as clarice can tell you. They are loath to admit it.

narcis o

Good gravy, that Nazi stupidity has made it across the pond.

So they haven't actually shown the shooters web page, why is that?

GUS

Narciso, SOMETIMES, commies love their wee babies.
SOMETIMES, they seek to DESTROY FREEDOM. Here is the GUS AXIOM.

Not raping SOMETIMES, does not excuse the OTHER TIMES.

The SWAMP the CAPITAL S ....SWAMP....has been ALLOWED to exist, fester and live unto-itself. Small and BIG, the SWAMP, fears not it's MASTERS, and SERVES NOT, it's original purpose.
The FBI for example, was being RUN, by a 6'8" FREAKISH PUSSY of a man. His 7th floor EXALTED LEADERSHIP, were all LIKE MINDED LIBTARD FRUITCAKES. They answered to NO ONE. The 1-6 floor, and the boots on the ground, were given marching orders, BUT, the real purpose was the leadership, and it's unbridled ideology and power. A SWAMP SOCIETY unto itself.
OBAMA is the WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THIS COUNTRY.

narcis o

Which is kind of ironic, since a real Nazi attacks that lady parliament member, in the UK, and some Italian yutz went on a killing spree last week. That gunther grass line about 'the long dark night of fascism always falling in America, but always landing in Europe was never more apt.

daddy

when the CIA asserts such nonsense, you have to ask yourself......who is their BOSS???

It's amazing, GUS.

We just witnessed the House Republicans methodically and legally going through all the legitimate and proper procedures to declassify and release to the Public the Nunes Memo, yet all the while the Dem's and the MSM and the CIA Deep Staters were screaming at the top of their lungs that it was an act of Treason and damaging as all hell to America, and that Congressman Nunes personally should be impeached and brought up on charges of Treason.

Yet from the other side of their mouth they are telling us that the CIA, who if I understand it correctly does not have authority to independently declassify info, should be able to leak Classified info to "trusted journalists" of their choosing, while then withholding that selectively leaked Classified info from legitimate investigators demanding to know who leaked it, what they leaked, who they leaked it too, and why they leaked it, not to mention where the hell they were given the authority in our Constitutional Republic to do such an illegal thing in the first place.

Mind boggling!

jimmyk

MJW, I just googled and came up with some discussions of various studies on artificial sweeteners and memory loss/dementia. A quick read of one the first one suggests it pertained primarily to saccharine or aspartame but not newer-vintage sweeteners.

https://www.google.com/search?q=artificial+sweeteners+memory+loss&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

jimmyk

And no, I'm not vouching for the studies, or suggesting they are conclusive. Just saying what I found.

narcis o

They have been playing favorites forever, recall dulles briefed Nixon and Kennedy, Kennedy chose to attack Nixon, knowing full well he couldnt respond in the debate

GUS

Daddy, once I came to understand the nature of the FULL COMMIE, it became much easier for me to reduce my stress and BP. The mother fuckers care NOTHING about AMERICA and absolutely certainly don't give a fiddlers fart about the CONSTITUTION. AND, this same cabal has seen to it, that PUBLIC SCHOOLS passed on their disdain for AMERICA.
You see, America is WHAT AMERICA IS. Once you stop respecting the CONSTITUTION and rule of law, you have ceased being AMERICAN. America is not a piece of maleable clay that can be COMMIE or The REPUBLIC that has existed for 242 years. If we are NOT what our founding fathers and our Constitution says we are, then there are NO RULES, other than the open warfare of the JUNGLE.
LIBTARDS and the FULL COMMIE, have NO PROBLEM with that, except, they would rather not have that BLOODY FIGHT, that is coming. They would rather have SOTOMAYOR and LYNCH and OBAMA rot us from within, until it's all over.

I was chatting with Kev, and he mentioned my mantra of.....A WAR IS COMING.
Daddy, if a WAR is NOT COMING. This nation is done.

narciso

The problem is more often than not, they leak things that aren't true like the benghazi talking points of the crowdstrike derived intelligence estimate.

GUS

btw Daddy, abject PUSSIES like FLAKE, McShitStain, Little Larry Corker, and Susan Collins......don't care about our values, they are in love with THEIR POWER and CELEB status.
Corker licked THE JUG EARED MOTHERFUCKERS ass and handed IRAN anything they wanted????
What planet is that TURD living on??

narciso

That's fideloflake and corked bat, what have you, the latter wants to get back in the Senate race, I say let's reopen the doj investigation.

GUS

Narciso, I see right thru these clowns. It's the SWAMP, Larry Corker, is NOBODY. But he's an EFFFFFFING SENATOR!!! Like BRUTAS, CASSIUS, ET AL....he's ROYALTY, and he CRAPPED his DRAWS. He got BITCH SLAPPED as he minced about in his MIDGET NEVAH!! Trump sissy SCHTICK. He has/had NO WHERE TO GO, unless he starts dating RALPH MADDOW.

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