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December 15, 2003

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Emma

As a resident lefty (and card-carrying member of the ACLU) who likes McCain-Feingold, let me see if I can step into the breach and make our position cohere.

The issues, as you have already identified them, are two: 1) free speech, and 2) political corruption. In the pre-Mcain system we had the first, but sadly, also the second. You argue that in the second we will lose the first, probably not actually achieving the second. And yet despite this liberals are happy with the deal. Why?

There are three things at work here. The first is that the speech ain't free--it's damned expensive. Although free-marketers like to downplay the tyranny of the market, tyranny it indeed is. The second is that it ain't just speech. We see far, far too close a correlation between lawmaking and donor interest (Dems are equally guilty). The third is something the McCain foes hesitate to acknowledge: the airwaves belong to the people. The hammerlock of the old rules depends on control of the airwaves. Money would mean far less to politics if every candidate were allotted free air time. And money would thereby influence politics far less.

So from my view, this is the heart of why McCain is so important--it means that the former system can be regulated (even liberals are sensitive to certain forms of waste). I don't particularly want publicly-funded elections. I want candidates to receive free air time. Limiting what is allowed on our publicly-owned airwaves is consitutional. And it's long overdue.

John Thacker

"[T]he airwaves belong to the people...
I don't particularly want publicly-funded elections. I want candidates to receive free air time."

Umm. Even begging the question of which candidates (like would everyone who signed up for the CA recall election get free airtime?), if the airwaves belong to the people, and you want the people to give the air time to the politicians, aren't you proposing that the public fund the candidates?

"The first is that the speech ain't free--it's damned expensive."

Exactly. So by restricting the ability to get money to pay for speech, you're restricting speech, aren't you, by your own argument.

Even worse is the possibility of "loophole" closure. Newspapers, TV stations, and other media are exempted from these rules. (But not necessarily small independent people who self-publish, like blogs. Hmm, empowering the rich and connected at the expense of the ordinary person. Is that the kind of thing that you really want to do, Emma?)
Suppose the NRA does operate a newspaper and TV station. What then? Are you going to close that "loophole" by having the government discriminate based on viewpoint who can and can't own a TV station? Or determine what's a "real" newspaper or TV station?

Color me skeptical. I don't understand why many liberals seem to believe that giving the government and elected representatives more power is going to lead to less corruption. When the government decides who can and can't operate a TV station or newspaper, corruption naturally occurs. The greater the power of the laws, the greater the donor interest. You're preposing to massively increase the possible benefits of corruption, by increasing tremendously the favors that the government can hand out. It's reasonable to worry that this could end up increasing corruption. There's a reason that civil service reform decreased corruption-- politicians had fewer plum jobs to hand out as a reward to supporters. But the right to operate a TV station; now there's a plum indeed.

Emma

if the airwaves belong to the people, and you want the people to give the air time to the politicians, aren't you proposing that the public fund the candidates?

Socrates would be displeased. The airwaves are owned by the people, but not even a nut like me would make the argument that the people have even an iota of control over them. But they should. Re-legislating that would be a great first step. I'm not advocating that we seize the Fox studios--just that it's not unreasonable to ask broadcasters to reserve time for political ads. They're getting stinking rich off public property, so making them slightly less stinky wouldn't cause the downfall of media. You'd still have print and the internet to spend your dough.

I'm not entirely sure what this means: "by restricting the ability to get money to pay for speech, you're restricting speech." Look, we've always had the constitutional right to legislate the flow of money--that was established long before M-F. So what's your argument?

Are you going to close that "loophole" by having the government discriminate based on viewpoint who can and can't own a TV station?

Not at all--I'm all for the NRA becoming a media outlet. Provided, of course, that we don't loosen laws about what media outlets are allowed to do regarding advocacy. You can print opinion, but you can't fund attack ads, organized get-out-the-vote drives, et al. Go for it.

I don't understand why many liberals seem to believe that giving the government and elected representatives more power is going to lead to less corruption.

This is the talk radio approach to debate. Set up a straw man that the liberals aren't actually arguing, and then crush it. Example: liberals don't agree that invading Iraq when and how we did was a strategicly sound decision, so we "are for the terrorists."

In this case, you won't find a single liberal who wants to give "elected representatives more power." And it's disengenuous to argue against that: conservatives have the power. Why in the hell would liberals stupidly support a law that actually strengthens incumbancy in the long run? And why, I wonder, if conservatives are in power, are they so dead-set against this law. In all other aspects of legislation, they seem fairly happy to solidify their advantage.

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