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June 25, 2004

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TM

A round-up of outrage from Memeorandum.

Patrick R. Sullivan

And here's a story from 1999 that says the contacts continued even after the attacks on the African embassies:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,314700,00.html

" Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition officials.

"The key meeting took place in the Afghan mountains near Kandahar in late December. The Iraqi delegation was led by Farouk Hijazi, Baghdad's ambassador in Turkey and one of Saddam's most powerful secret policemen, who is thought to have offered Bin Laden asylum in Iraq."

I guess Al Gore was out of the loop back then.

TM

That meeting gets mentioned in Stephen Hayes' Weekly Standard article about The Connection, with the key name spelled "Faruq Hijazi".

Eventually, Isikoff at Newsweek semi-debunks that, but Hayes stands his ground.

Newsweek:

Consider one of the seemingly more compelling reports cited in the memo: that Farouk Hijazi, the former chief of Iraqi intelligence and then ambassador to Turkey, flew to Afghanistan in late 1998 to meet with bin Laden. As Stephen Hayes, author of The Weekly Standard piece dutifully notes, accounts of this purported Saddam overture to Osama made its way into the mainstream press at the time—including NEWSWEEK. A Feb. 6, 1999, story in the British newspaper The Guardian contended the purpose of Hijazi’s visit was to offer a presumably besieged bin Laden asylum in Iraq.

But, as Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism official, says, the Feith-Carney memo omits the rest of the story: that bin Laden actually rejected the Hijazi overture, concluding he did not want to be “exploited” by a regime that he has consistently viewed as “secular” and fundamentally antithetical to his vision of a strict Islamic state.

Hayes:

Isikoff and Hosenball cite a late 1998 trip to Afghanistan by Faruq Hijazi. Hijazi served Saddam Hussein both as deputy director of Iraqi intelligence and later as ambassador to Turkey. At that meeting, the authors contend, bin Laden rejected an Iraqi offer of asylum. Their source is Vince Cannistraro, a knowledgeable former CIA counterterrorism official--the kind of expert whose views should be taken very seriously. He may be right. And if his understanding of the meeting's outcome is accurate, that information certainly should have been included in the Feith memo.

But stop for a moment and consider what this analysis means. It demonstrates that at the very least, Saddam Hussein was willing to give Osama bin Laden asylum in Iraq. Is this not precisely the kind of collusion the administration cited as it made its case for war? If such a distinguished skeptic of the links believes that Saddam Hussein would have offered bin Laden asylum, why is it so hard to believe--to take one example from a "well-placed source" cited in the Feith memo--that Hussein sent his intelligence director to bin Laden's farm in 1996 to train the al Qaeda leader in explosives? Or, to take another from a "regular and reliable source" mentioned in the memo, that bin Laden's No. 2, Ayman al Zawahiri, "visited Baghdad and met with the Iraqi Vice President on 3 February 1998"?

And Mr. Cannistraro is quoted in the 1999 Guardian article:

Vincent Cannistraro, former chief of CIA counter-terrorist operations, said: "Hijazi went to Afghanistan in December and met with Osama, with the knowledge of the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar. We are sure about that. What is the source of some speculation is what transpired."

So when was the story about Osama's rejection of asylum completed?


HH

Why aren't the lefties who celebrated Isikoff back when he was on their side against Hayes demanding accountability from Michael Moore who refuses to provide him with a full transcript? Just askin'.

TM

Andrew Sullivan pits Daniel Okrent against Maureen Dowd; William Kristol also opines.

clockwork

Is this memo actually getting brought up all over again!?!?!?? I can't believe this.

Spin spin spin, I think you guys have been put through the wash one too many times, seriously.

This memo, and the subsequent Weekly Standard "Case Closed" article based on it, was sent to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Oct. 27, 2003, from Douglas J. Feith, under secretary of defense for policy, in response to follow-up questions from his July 10 testimony.

I was able to find credible evidence to the contrary to this "Cased Closed" report. I have found some major points to refute the basis of that entire article... this one comes directly from the DoD:

DoD Statement on News Reports of Al Qaeda and Iraq Connections on November 15, 2003 (one day after your report was released)

"News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.
...

The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions.

...

Individuals who leak or purport to leak classified information are doing serious harm to national security; such activity is deplorable and may be illegal."


See the main problem with this leak was that it was not an assessment of the links between Iraq and Al Queda, but merely a list of unconfirmed 'raw data' that was gathered by CIA. Just as I am finding in my personal research of this topic of the Iraq war... people claim things that support thier viewpoint, but when you dig down into it there is no credible source to back it up. In this case the 'raw data' was used to support those claims even though the entire intelligence community refutes the legitamacy of these claims. Here are some more intelligence community officals that were pretty steamed by the release and subsequent backing by the Vice President of this Weekly Standard article:

Here's the article from Salon.com quoting Vincent Cannistraro, the former CIA chief of counterterrorism, and other intelligence community members. Here are some of his comments regarding the Weekly Standard article and subsequently Dick Cheney's "promotion" of it:

"It's disgusting," said Vincent Cannistraro, the former CIA chief of counterterrorism. "It's bullshit," said Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst who served in the agency's Near East division.
...

"I just can't find words to describe how horrible it is," says Cannistraro. "For the vice president to undercut the head of intelligence at the Pentagon is unparalleled. It just llustrates the peculiar worldview Cheney has and how distorted it is. And it shows there's a real contempt for the professional intelligence community."

...

Intelligence professionals are particularly offended by what they see as Cheney's attempt to deliberately mislead and mischaracterize the article. In particular they point to his reference to the leaked information as an "assessment" as though it had been evaluated and judged to be creditable. "That was no assessment. It was a roundup of [unsubstantiated] reports," says McGovern, a steering group member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, which has been critical of the Bush administration's handling of intelligence. "To call that an assessment is a joke and disavows what the Department of Defense said, for God's sake."

...

Former CIA counterterrorism chief Cannistraro explains that hundreds, if not thousands, of raw reports from first-, second- and third-hand sources flood into the CIA offices around the world every day. But these are of little or no use until they can be analyzed. "The problem with raw intelligence is you can cherry-pick it," he says. "It's like having the Bible in your hand; you can pick and choose individual passages to prove almost any point."

Cannistraro is stunned that Feith's office, out to prove linkage between Saddam and bin Laden, relied on raw intelligence summaries and not evaluated intelligence. "It's just amazing, because it's the antithesis of the intelligence process," he said.


Ok, well that squashes that claim. Any more "evidence" you want to resurrect to prop up the same old Iraq - Al Queda claim??!?! The case is closed... and not in favor of the administration.


TM

Ray McGovern is not real credible, IMHO.

Here is a bit from his latest at Counterpunch:

Not so. This is precisely the spin that the Bush administration wants to give to the Senate report; i. e., that the president was misled; that his decision for war was based on spurious intelligence about non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

But the president's decision for war had little to do with intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. It had everything to do with the administration's determination to gain control of strategic, oil-rich Iraq, implant an enduring military presence there, and-not incidentally--eliminate any possible threat from Iraq to Israel's security.

These, of course, were not the reasons given to justify placing US troops in harms way, but even the most circumspect senior officials have had unguarded moments of candor. For example, when asked in May 2003 why North Korea was being treated differently from Iraq, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz responded, "Let's look at it simplyThe country (Iraq) swims on a sea of oil."

The Wolfowitz quote is out of context, but I am not inclined to track that down right now.

clockwork

Moot point. Got any others?

I do like the quote from Wolfowitz tho... thanx.

clockwork

Oh, and btw, how does that quote make him "not real credible"?

Either way, my point still stands.

Cecil Turner

I don't agree.

The DOD didn't say the data contained in the Feith memo were inaccurate, it said the reports it referenced weren't provided to the committee. Instead, the classified annex contained "a list and description of the requested reports . . ." The bit about "Individuals who leak or purport to leak classified information . . ." Is not a suggestion Feith did so, but a comment on the media buzz surrounding the non-leak.

Cannistraro and McGovern are correct that the Feith memo does not represent an assessment. But they are more than a bit disingenuous in suggesting the actual (classified) assessment doesn't show a connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. By all reports it does (and in fact Cannistraro confirms some of those connections--such as the Hijazi-Bin Laden meeting--he just argues about what they discussed and the nature of the relationship). That's hardly claim "squashing."

Cecil Turner

On the Wolfowitz quote, yes, it's out of context. The point was why we were trying economic pressure on the DPRK, and claiming it was ineffective on Iraq. A more objective version in context:

"The country is teetering on the edge of economic collapse," Wolfowitz said. "That I believe is a major point of leverage." "The primary difference between North Korea and Iraq is that we had virtually no economic options in Iraq because the country floats on a sea of oil," he said. Wolfowitz did not elaborate on how Washington intends to put economic pressure on North Korea, but said other countries in the region helping it should send a message that "they're not going to continue doing that if North Korea continues down the road it's on."

The Guardian ran a correction/clarification here.

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