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September 30, 2004



Their next flip-flop is deliberately deceptive

LOL. Like there is anything at all in this whole "flip-flop" nonsense that's not deliberately deceptive. You sound like you're falling for your own propaganda. This is usually the beginning of the end, ya'know.


The "don't think you can win it" was in response to Matt Lauer's question asking if the global war on terror could be won in the next four years. The President's response is taken out of context, as such cBS is misleading and dishonest. Although it is exactly as Michael Moore would use such a statement, but then MM is a propagandist, and never claims to be a "news" organization.


If there is no discernable reason for holding conflicting positions, then, of course, there is something to dubbing it a 'flip-flop' though the term tends to reduce the importance of noting such 'flip-flops'. As a result, you wind up with what CBS gave us -- subjects contorted to fit into cutsie Top 10 lists, incoherent treatment of each item, and poorly substantiated items are flip-flops.

While 'flip-flops' will reflect poorly on the candidates, these lists only reflect poorly on CBS.


What is also left out is that he placed his comment in quotes using his fingers to make bunny ears which gave his comments perspective. That perspective being that this was not a war of tanks and artillary where a clear distinction can be drawn between unequivacol success where one party lays down their weapons and goes home and the other party is victorious. He was simply stating that this is not a traditional war of guns and infantry (in total) but rather one of ideaology.


Osama was also incensed by the sanctions on Iraq which he claimed had killed "millions" of innocent Iraqis (see his 1998 fatwah declaring jihad against the US).

In fact, the belief that the US was responsible for millions of deaths in Iraq was one of the major recruiting draws for Al Qaeda in the 1990's, especially after Madeleine Halfbright's insouciant dismissal of Iraqi suffering in order to contain Saddam that was given substantial air time in the region.

That is why the charge that the invasion of Iraq has drawn recruits to AQ is so mind-numbingly ignorant. The Iraqi sanctions constituted a recruitment bonanza for Al Qaeda. Recruits have been beating down the door to join AQ against the US for over a decade. Continued containment, even supposing it could have been managed given that the sanctions were already crumbling, would have continued drawing beaucoup recruits to AQ with no end in sight.

Jimmy Harris

As for the Bush flip-flops, CBS opens with WMDs in Iraq. Hmm, was not finding WMDs a "flip-flop"?

CBS doesn't refer to not finding WMD as a flip-flop. They refer to his statements as flip-flopping.

“We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories,” Mr. Bush told Polish television. “For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

On Sept. 9, 2004, in Pennsylvania, Mr. Bush said: “I recognize we didn't find the stockpiles [of weapons] we all thought were there.”

Michael McNeil  (Impearls)

The CBS article pointed to says, "Following Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in January 1991, Kerry broke with the majority of senators and voted against authorizing the first Gulf War."  Iraq, however, invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990.  The air war portion of the coalition's Gulf War I counter-invasion was launched during January, 1991.

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