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January 05, 2005

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Foobarista

My own feeling is that the inevitable will come to pass: SS becomes a true need-based old-age welfare program (ie, "need indexed" - which it already is to an extent, since SS benefits are taxed), and we have personal accounts. This wouldn't be such a bad thing, IMO.

One thing that annoys the heck out of me is how people discussing the President's plan are tripping over themselves with the silly "4% of 6.5%" stuff. The truth of the matter is that the proposal is for 4% of the SS wages to go to the account, with the rest to go to the regular SS program, as well as the entire "employer's contribution".

(An aside: I'd prefer to see the hidden "employer's contribution" abolished - just bump up salaries by that amount, and show the entire tax. Hidden taxes are evil.)

As to indexing, price indexing is what should be done. There's no real reason for SS to be increasing in real terms even after one has retired.

TM

As to indexing, price indexing is what should be done. There's no real reason for SS to be increasing in real terms even after one has retired.

I am highly confident that for retirees, the annual benefit is indexed to inflation.

The wage indexing comes in to play when calculating the future benefit due to current workers. For example, a dolar contributed five years ago "ought to" be adjuted for inflation, or interest rates, or something. Well, the "something" is the wage index, and the goal is to preserve the relative value of someone's contributions during their working life.

steevil (Dr Weevil's bro Steve)

Well, duh. I was born in 1951 (Dr Weevil in '53). I have assumed my whole adult life that my SS benefit would be reduced from what has been "promised." It's actually an optimistic assumption, since I've assumed I would have other resources and would fail a means test.

The further reduction for people born after 1970 is worrying, those are my kids they're talking about.

Liberal AND Proud

"I have assumed my whole adult life that my SS benefit would be reduced from what has been "promised."
The further reduction for people born after 1970 is worrying, those are my kids they're talking about."

Don't worry...the same subversive thought manipulation that was done to you and our peers over the last 15 years to make you/us ACCEPT a reduction in "promised" benefits...will be done again so that your/our children will quietly acquiesce as THEY are fucked over.

steevil (Dr Weevil's bro Steve)

The simple fact of the numbers of us born 1945-1955 is the problem hasn't occurred to you?

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