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June 26, 2005

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Ptolemy

I feel certain that the main reason for Leftist anger is the fear of going through all that suspicion from the people all over again. They were just getting brave enough to pretend they never aroused so much suspicion and doubt a few years back. This makes them feel they are back at the starting line.

It never occurs to them that it is the American people questioning their patriotism and judgment, not Bush (in public at least). "We didn't get our message out." Remember that bit of denial? Oh, we heard your message. Loud and clear. You don't lose three national elections in a row because of one strategist.

Don't scream that you love this country. Prove it! Do you consider us worth the effort, Dems? Do you loath catering to our evil and ignorance? I'm sure the Canada option is still open. Prove Rove was wrong or just shut up and go away.

creepy dude

TM-you know they say you can judge a man by the company he keeps...

SteveMG

"TM-you know they say you can judge a man by the company he keeps..."

You mean like the entire Democratic leadership embracing Michael Moore when his movie came out?

Or when Moore sat at the presidential box during the Democratic Convention?

That type of _invited_ and _embrace_ company?

I can't beging to fathom how TM is responsible for the views of an unknown poster writing comments on an open blog.

SMG

zota

Let me explain why the hypocrisy of the Executive as expressed by Karl Rove is more important than the comments of a single senator:

Words:
"liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"

Actions:
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld acknowledged Sunday that U.S. officials have met with insurgents in Iraq.... U.S. and Iraqi officials also are considering amnesty for their enemies as they look for ways to end the country's rampant insurgency
Yahoo News

Ripclawe

I think Rove was talking along these terms about liberals.
http://www.hwt.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15708883%5E25717,00.html>Herald Sun

"FIRST they backed Saddam against his victims. Now our cultural elite backs terrorists against Douglas Wood, the Australian they kidnapped.

You say I exaggerate?
I reply: Andrew Jaspan.

Said Jaspan: "I was, I have to say, shocked by Douglas Wood's use of the a---hole word, if I can put it like that, which I just thought was coarse and very ill-thought through and I think demeans the man and is one of the reasons why people are slightly sceptical of his motives and everything else.

"The issue really is largely, speaking as I understand it, he was treated well there. He says he was fed every day, and as such to turn around and use that kind of language I think is just insensitive." The ingrate."

pamela

zota,

I believe that to which you refer is an (ongoing) effort to separate the local Iraqi insurgents (who have been persuaded that they are 'defending Iraq') from the imported insurgents (al-qaeda etc). Witness many cases already of red-on-red fighting as well as al-Sadr's abandonment of his militia and his subsequent participation in the political process.

Divide and conquer, mate.

Ptolemy

I'm awesome company, creepy! TM is really going to go places now.

If Dems can refocus and at least act like they like this country they will have no problem taking back Congress. The Reps have some serious idiots just like the Dems but there is less danger of Rep idiots selling my freedoms out to the UN/Eurabia or to appeasment of deadly enemies. I deliberately voted Republican the last two elections so we could get an American party in control. It won't last forever and the Reps will get out of hand (remember '92) and Dems can have it all back. Just stop insulting millions of your fellow Americans in the south and west and direct your contempt towards our enemies. Just for a few years. That's all we're asking.

SteveMG

"If Dems can refocus and at least act like they like this country they will have no problem taking back Congress. The Reps have some serious idiots just like the Dems"

It is indeed on many levels a case of which party turns OFF or angers the fewer citizens. It's a close call.

Casey Stengel once pointed out that the key to managing was "keeping the 50% of the players who hate me from talking to the 50% of the players who aren't sure they hate me."

Casey could've been a very rich political consultant.

SMG

TM

Several good points bt Steve, and we always love a Casey Stengel referene.

Zota - unless you thought that the US goal was to kll 'em all, a political settlement preceded by negotiations should not be surprising.

And, depending on the context, it might be very encouraging.

TM-you know they say you can judge a man..

Irish, I suspect that truism gives both of us pause on ocasion. But as Will Rogers might have said, there are no strangers here, just friends who haven't met yet, and people I haven't p***ed off yet.

max

If you like Casey Stengal references, perhaps you'll enjoy this comment from his wife when he retired:

"I married him for better or worse, but not for lunch."

SaveFarris

Just because that dead horse can always be beaten just a little more:

Nearly 24 people shot in 12 Hours

If I linked this for you and did not tell you that it was an newspaper describing what Chicagoans had done to other Chicagoans, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for human beings.

Les Nessman

SF
Also, I don't hear about each and every shooting death of Americans in Chicago every single day, in radio, t.v., and print; and that's only one city out of many.

If I did hear only the bad news every day, I might think we're stuck in a Quagmire in America, I might think the Insurgents Are Winning in America and I might demand an Exit Strategy to get Americans out of America. Someone might take a poll of demoralized Americans and it might show that 60% of Americans disapprove of the Occupation of America.

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