Bush issues a veto threat on the UAE port deal? I am in broad agreement with the opening of the NY Times editorial:
If President Bush follows through on his threat, he'll be making a strange choice for his first veto after more than five years in office. After giving a pass to a parade of misbegotten Congressional initiatives and irresponsible budget packages, he'd be choosing to take a stand over the right to hand control of operations at major American ports to a company based in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates, and controlled by that government.
And Congress, which is making a bipartisan show of beating its collective chest, is being rather tardy in taking a stand, given the way it has looked on indifferently as the administration has ignored Congress's own rights of oversight and its constituents' right not to be targets of extralegal spying.
My theory of Craven Congressional Buck-passing can easily be extended to include the port debacle. You may recall the theory - since we may, Heaven forbid, be attacked again, Congress is determined that no fingers can be pointed back at them in the aftermath.
Consequently, after a bit of voguing, Congress passed the Partiot Act; after a bit more voguing, they will endorse the NSA warrantless eavesdropping. (Caveat - they *may* engineer a mechanism that puts the onus on the FISA Court to strangle this program; as long as they can avoid leaving their own fingerprints, it works for them).
So, with the ports? This issue is easily demagogued, so don't look for Congressional leadership here - their goal is to give the appearance of being tough on national security; reality is for other people. (That said, I have no idea what reality is on this issue, but it seems to me that a port operator ought to have some ability to smuggle contraband and do other evil things. Wasn't this covered recently on "24"?)
This NY Times story points the way to a fig-leaf:
The administration's review of the deal was conducted by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a body that was created in 1975 to review foreign investments in the country that could affect national security. Under that review, officials from the Defense, State, Commerce and Transportation Departments, along with the National Security Council and other agencies, were charged with raising questions and passing judgment. They found no problems to warrant the next stage of review, a 45-day investigation with results reported to the president for a final decision.
However, a 1993 amendment to the law stipulates that such an investigation is mandatory when the acquiring company is controlled by or acting on behalf of a foreign government. Administration officials said they conducted additional inquires because of the ties to the United Arab Emirates, but they could not say why a 45-day investigation did not occur.
There you go - the law may have required a 45-day review, so let's have it.
MORE: OK, I'm agreeing with a NY Times editorial, but Jimmy Carter is backing President Bush:
''The overall threat to the United States and security, I don't think it exists,'' Carter said on CNN's The Situation Room. ``I'm sure the president's done a good job with his subordinates to make sure this is not a threat.''
OK, if Jimmy doesn't see a threat, I'm *really* nervous (and it's not just me). Here is the transcript, and a longer soundbite (although this issue was an afterthought in the interview):
BLITZER: Are you concerned at one of our top stories today about this Dubai-based company taking control of security at six major ports here in the United States?
CARTER: Well, I've been to Dubai, and I've seen the remarkable port facilities they have there, perhaps the best in the world. I'm not knocking the ones in the United States, of course. My presumption is, and my belief is, that the president and his secretary of state and the Defense Department and others have adequately cleared the Dubai government organization to manage these ports. I don't think there's any particular threat to our security.
Obviously, the Homeland Security would have to be involved directly with, and in a partnership with, the Dubai people as they clear folks to work in their ports, particularly in sensitive areas. So the overall threat to the United States and security, I don't think it exists. I'm sure the president's done a good job with his subordinates to make sure this is not a threat.
SIDEBET: Do you think Jimmy stands by this, or will he backpedal now that the direction of the wind is more clear? This sentence - "My presumption is, and my belief is, that the president and his secretary of state and the Defense Department and others have adequately cleared the Dubai government organization to manage these ports" - certainly leaves some wiggle room.
LOTS MORE: Lots at the InstaPundit (Yes, I know that you know, but I want this link in my archives.)
RIPPING AND SNORTING: The WSJ editors drop the gloves (i.e., today falls between Monday and Friday):
As for the Democrats, we suppose this is a two-fer: They have a rare opportunity to get to the right of the GOP on national security, and they can play to their union, anti-foreign investment base as well. At a news conference in front of New York harbor, Senator Chuck Schumer said allowing the Arab company to manage ports "is a homeland security accident waiting to happen." Hillary Clinton is also along for this political ride.
So the same Democrats who lecture that the war on terror is really a battle for "hearts and minds" now apparently favor bald discrimination against even friendly Arabs investing in the U.S.? Guantanamo must be closed because it's terrible PR, wiretapping al Qaeda in the U.S. is illegal, and the U.S. needs to withdraw from Iraq, but these Democratic superhawks simply will not allow Arabs to be put in charge of American longshoremen. That's all sure to play well on al Jazeera.
OVERSIMPLIFIED: One of my favorite sons of the Auld Sod reminds us to look for a bit of nuance and warns against a rush to judgement. From Jack Kelly:
But, warns Spook 86, it's not that simple:
Cancelling the port deal could mean the end of U.S. basing rights in the UAE, strained relations with other regional partners, and the potential loss of a key defense contract, all viewed as critical in fighting the War on Terror. Collectively, those factors probably explain why the deal hasn't already been nixed, and why the Bush Administration may put up a fight--even with political allies.
It's a good point-counterpoint - read it all.
STILL MORE: YARGB has a modest hope that someone will actually report on just what it is that a "port operator" does, and what the security issues might be. He does like this CSM piece (but I think he needs to fix the link).
OWN HORN TOOT -
If you are interested in minor details - like facts - you may find this piece of interest. As well as the CSM article noted in the update.
Didn't Plato say something about "first, determine the nature of the thing"?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 10:11 AM
OK, that's it TM. You're nothing but a LIBRUL!
Posted by: Dwilkers | February 22, 2006 at 10:20 AM
"good job with his subordinate" may mean that the 45 day review has been done, reported to Bush and decided upon by him.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 10:20 AM
The nature of former President Carter is to be wrong and being in agreement with him has shaken me to my paleo-con bones.
Posted by: Jimmy's Attack Rabbit | February 22, 2006 at 10:21 AM
Quotes from Instapundit don't help when Instapundit happens to be wrong. The UAE is an ally, they know how to run ports, and Bush is absolutely spot-on when he asks why Brits are OK but not Arabs. It's typical, though endlessly ironic (considering the lambasting he regularly receives), that George Bush is the smartest guy on the bock.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | February 22, 2006 at 10:23 AM
This is just a false fight designed to restore an image of conscience and independence in the fawning Congressional Republicans, sort of like Roberts purported difference with Bush on FISA.
Posted by: jerry | February 22, 2006 at 10:23 AM
I applied Occams razor and decided that the Dems/MSM are against it because Bush is for it. And an extension of that, UAE is bad because they are Bush's friends. Remember the Bush Family - House of Saud connection that was so much in vogue for awhile. It's sad that key Republicans have jumped on the bandwagon for purely political purposes.
Maybe Bush should push back and say, he's rescinding the deal with the UAE and giving the contract to a Hamas/Al Queda joint venture in order to get Democrat support.
Posted by: Lew Clark | February 22, 2006 at 10:24 AM
I think you guys should just outsource all your ports. We did that in the UK when the Liverpool dockers got a bit stroppy and it worked just fine. It's a bit inconvenient having to walk to Bangalore to pick the stuff up once it's been unloaded, but the labour cost savings are incredible.
(this joke comes from an actual remark made by a manager of Mersey Docks during the strike, when he claimed that Liverpool faced increasing competition from more modern and technically advanced ports like Hamburg).
Posted by: dsquared | February 22, 2006 at 10:42 AM
One very logical explanation for the president's actions is that the bipartisan squealers who are screaming about this are, hmmm, what's the phrase I am looking for, outting a covert agent. And the president just stood up and hissed, "Shut the f*** up, you morons!" Given that he has spent the last five years proving himself to be the world's cheapest tightwad when it comes to expending political capital, I've got to think that there is a very good reason that he is expending so much here.
cathy :-)
Posted by: cathyf | February 22, 2006 at 10:48 AM
Not to put too fine a point on it, dsquared, but we already outsourced our ports. And it's not altogether obvious whether British muslims or Dubai muslims are more dangerous when it comes to terrorism anyway...
cathy :-)
Posted by: cathyf | February 22, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Lileks has a typically humourous take on this (via Instapundit). When I first heard the bare bones of the story, my thoughts were very similar to Lileks' - unbelievable tone-deafness to the politics of it all. Of course, another part of me wondered if Bush had simply let this whole thing sneak up on him, and was unprepared to debate it.
However, in the intervening 12 hours I have read several persuasive arguments as to why the UAE port deal is not bad at all. Dafydd ab Hugh has an awesome post that casts aside the visceral reaction many people on both sides of the political spectrum had when this whole story broke, and examines reality and facts. I came away with a different perspective.
At this point, I think we need to look more closely at the deal before it is finalized. I don't want to hear about excuses for not doing it, this is a prima facia case for Congressional hearings and oversight. At the same time, I think passing a bill to scuttle the deal without first reviewing the case is premature, and I would support a veto.
The President has been folishly blindsided with this, but he does have a few things on his side as well and against him. This thing can be demagogued endlessly from a "racial profiling" as well as a national security standpoint. Last time these two issues came into conflict, "racial profiling" won out over national security. This time, I'm not so sure. A.J. Strata really hits the issues related to the "racial profiling" point hard in this post.
We are headed for some interesting times. This debate has just begun, and is going to grow exponentially from here.
Posted by: Truzenzuzex | February 22, 2006 at 11:07 AM
"The President has been foolishly blindsided with this"
Bullshit.
The President can differentiate between a freight handling operation and port security.
One might consider that peddling against meme is not the function of the executive. The fact that those commenting in ignorance choose to raise immaterial issues is no reason for the President to respond to the ignorant.
Phrase argument as: "It's a damn shame that suckers are born at a one a minute rate and the media sure take advantage of it - why doesn't the President do something?" and you get to the crux of the "problem".
It ain't his job to enlighten the ignorant.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 11:20 AM
"It ain't his job to enlighten the ignorant"
No, but the Pres SHOULD HAVE been out in front of this issue from the start. Oh. Wait. He did not know about the deal. Ok.
This Admin has lost battles in the past for this very reason: THEY DO NOT GET OU IN FRONT of their actions and PREPARE us Dumb Shit Americans for the Tsunami after the announcement is made in the MSM (Drudge).
Sorry, but the Pres has to inform, not defend.
Posted by: BurbankErnie | February 22, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Well there goes my theory he was holding a card up his sleeve...he didn't even know he was playing poker.
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 11:28 AM
Rove was wearing his Jimmy Carter masque when he explained to Michael Moore at the Democratic Convention how kids fly kites at those UAB ports, and Gore got the message in Riyadh. That explains Moore's silence, now. Or maybe he's busy wondering why bin Laden is holding up progress on the pipeline over there in Allahforsakistan.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 11:43 AM
BE,
What battles have been "lost"?
You have stepped into the game without reconnoitering. Step back, look at the real chess board and ask "whose king is in danger?". This ain't checkers.
The MSM is not the measure - in fact they are a "null" value.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 11:48 AM
I just saw a news clip on the Powerball winner. The guy is a furiner. Can't even speak good English. Came here in 1988.
Where was Bush on this? Does he know how many suicide bombers can be financed with that kind of money. Bush had better get up-front on this and keep that money away from him! Or just have Cheney shoot him.
Posted by: Lew Clark | February 22, 2006 at 12:23 PM
Zogby, the great Dem pollster is
very, very PO'd.
I will have to wait for PoliPundit
and Galen to look at the possiblities and to answer this question:
If the Arabs in Detroit and elsewhere in Michigan go against the Dems, will Michigan turn into
a RED STATE?
How many Black Muslims will also be
PO'd and maybe stay home?
Yes we want hearings! Possible that Kennedy's, Schummmy's and Biden's performances at the Alito
Hearing could be bested!
Loving it!
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Are they buying the Coast Guard? Are they buying Customs? Are they buying the Dept. of Homeland Security?
Listening to the hysteria you would think they are.
Who do you think should run the port operations?
Posted by: Bill H | February 22, 2006 at 01:08 PM
Rick Ballard said:
Your comment reminds me of posters over at MyDD and Daily Kos, bemoaning the ignorance of the great unwashed electorate and asserting intellectual superiority; "We needn't inform these fools about our decisions in government". Unwise.
You might think it isn't the President's job to "enligten the ignorant", but a failure to do so in this case will likely result in providing the Democrats an issue that they will exploit to the detrement of this country. Your glib reply is a testament to your own apparent failure to grasp the politics of the UAE purchase. If Bush doesn't find a way to get out in front of this, the visceral opinions evident on both sides against the deal will harden and the unenlightened ignorant will deal him a major political setback.
And funny enough, Bush didn't know about the deal until a few days ago, according to the White House. But while the President talked about energy and what-not, he should have been coming up with a strategy to deal with this. When I first heard about it, I knew it was going to be a problem. Bush's political instincts aught to be a lot better than mine, but if he can't see an onrushing truck like this, I may have to revise my opinion of the man.
Posted by: Truzenzuzex | February 22, 2006 at 01:16 PM
When do we stop receiving cargo from ports controlled by DP World?
Posted by: danking70 | February 22, 2006 at 01:36 PM
Truz,
How many elections have you won?
I really do understand your viewpoint but it's not one that is focused on the battlefield. Who cares what the scribblers think? Perhaps they did marshal 15 points in 2004. Who won?
Bullshit has to be shovelled - it doesn't have to be sifted.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 01:43 PM
Easy, T&R,l he misses these things because his heart is pure. He is actually a fairly poor politician, that's what Rove and Cheney are for, but as an executive, foreseeing, and functioning, he's not been excelled.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 01:49 PM
danking,
"When do we stop receiving cargo from ports controlled by DP World?"
Don't you think we should immediatly target shipments from the oil company controlled by Chavez.
He is big buddies with Iran, North Korea, China, Cuba and the really scary Cindy Sheehan and the "Day O"
man.
Extrapolate the Left's argument and we can freeze all those blue states to death in no time, as long as that darn global warming doesn't save them.
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 01:50 PM
The great unwashed in this "ports" story is the MSM who repeatedly report that a foreign company is going to operate our ports.
False.
DP World will not, nor will any other foreign company, be "operating" the port.
In this case--as regards New York--a foreign company (DP World) will own one-half (a joint venture interest) of a company operating one freight terminal. Several other companies, including foreign, operate the bulk of the freight terminals in the port.
These "ports" companies are in reality "freight-handlers," who load and off-load cargo from freighters. Their security interest regards theft, shrinkage, and other casualty losses.
The port is operated by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey--who has their own police department. Port security is provided by the Coast Guard and US Customs.
And as regards security, as in the airlines, the security is addressed prior to departure, and not upon arrival at the destination.
As for those making political hay out of this "story," if you knew what you're taking about, you wouldn't be making the sort of dumb ass statements you're making.
Posted by: Forbes | February 22, 2006 at 01:51 PM
Yeah it's his fault he didn't foresee the Democrats pulling the fear and the race card together in such a blatantly hypocritical fashion. Do I forgive him? Do I forgive his opponents? What's to forgive, it's in their nature.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 01:51 PM
"Democrats pulling the fear and the race card together in such a blatantly hypocritical fashion"
A week or so ago they were the
"we're not afraid" party and the
politically correct multiculturalists spouting all cultures are equal and only a few
are "freedom fighters"
Makes you wonder if any of the DEMS
have TIVOs?
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 01:58 PM
About the only thing that will change because of this is some names on checks. The same people will physically control the ports and terminals. Who pays the bills and collects the revenues will be different.
Big deal.
Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan | February 22, 2006 at 02:04 PM
he can't see an onrushing truck like this, I may have to revise my opinion of the man.
When will people begin to understand there are NO surprises when an R and a V reside in the same last name. Hint: ROVE loves ROPE
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 02:09 PM
OT: Libby's response to the government's reply to his discovery requests and an affidavit are available here--they strongly attack the greymail implication and demand the right for the reporters' info; also make a good case for the presidential breifing materials--http://www.scooterlibby.com/news/Read.aspx?ID=75
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 02:10 PM
Clarice
As Matalin says....Deeeliccious this is
"...Such relatively less important events include alleged snippets of conversations about Valerie Plame Wilson's employment status...."
Could someone hand me a fly-swatter, in other words. You can almost feel the arrow penetrating Wilson's over inflated and enlarged heart.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 02:19 PM
Hier cum da Judge.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 02:21 PM
While we are OT, clarice, here's the most fascinating story. Remember the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development? Remember how this is Fitz's case, and Judy Miller (yeah, that Judy Miller) massively screwed up the case by tipping them off by calling and "asking them for comment"? Remember how they started massively destroying evidence and Fitz had to move in and make arrests prematurely? Well it turns out that Fitz's staff goofed up and xeroxed a bunch of classified documents and handed them over to the defense.
You know, I can't think of any way that this is anything more than a really weird coincidence. But man, is it ever a weird coincidence.
cathy :-)
Posted by: cathyf | February 22, 2006 at 02:32 PM
Yes, I saw that article but didn't realize it was Fitz' team that goofed.
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 02:35 PM
I also recall reading that when the prosecution realized they'd made a mistake, there first move was to try to get into the locked defense counsel room in the courthouse and simply retireve them. They were stopped by court security and then and only then sought court relief for their error. PHEH
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 02:37 PM
"...Both government and defense lawyers are barred from discussing exactly what was turned over, but defense lawyers have indicated they believe the information would help their case..."
things that make you go "hmmmm"
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 02:38 PM
Jeez, wouldn't that want to make you act with the secrecy and isolation of the Inquisition.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 02:40 PM
Let me amend that to 'act with the secrecy and isolation of the excesses of the Inquisition'.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 02:42 PM
And subject irritants to durance vile.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 02:43 PM
Interesting, Fitz doesn't even want to turn over to Libby his OWN notes..Hey, why not make the Star Chamber complete?
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 02:51 PM
Ed Lasky breaks this:
Democrat officials' firm helped Dubai purchase ports
Little noticed in the kerfuffle over the takeover of major US ports by Dubai Ports is the key role being played by former Democratic Party leaders. Lobbying firms associated with ex-Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle and Madeleine Albright (Clinton’s Secretary of State) have been working (paid subscription only link) to secure approval of the purchase by Dubai.
Soooooo......this deal has been in works for more than months and the
Dems have been mentioning mentioning mentioning ports for months
and then this!
Sounds a lot like Rocky's memo on the planned attack on Bush via
Intelligence committee.
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 02:51 PM
Ah, the perfidy.
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 03:00 PM
Rove knew, didn't he? But, how? Musta' just smelled it. "Ports? Ports? What's all this 'Ports' in the air?
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 03:03 PM
Now there, C, is a scandal. Why didn't court security make a complaint of attempted burglary?
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Posted by: kim | February 22, 2006 at 03:06 PM
nteresting, Fitz doesn't even want to turn over to Libby his OWN notes..Hey, why not make the Star Chamber complete?
No, he's waited this long to have Libby read them to Fitz, he's just not gonna give them back now
"the government has expressly withheld the identity of the sources who disclosed Ms. Wilson's employment status to Mr. Woodward and Mr. Novak"
Armatage or Tenet?
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 03:11 PM
The administration's review of the deal was conducted by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a body that was created in 1975 to review foreign investments in the country that could affect national security.
Thats great, really it is. But if we set aside who reviewed the deal, and look at who is behind the deal in the first place, you will find that it is the cities and states in question who drove this forward.
It's pretty funny to watch the NY and NJ senators complaining about the actions of what are, are the end of the day, their own states. Perhaps Chuckie could place a phone call to his buddies at the Port Authority?
Posted by: flenser | February 22, 2006 at 03:13 PM
Huh. Thanks for the link Clarice. I'm about half way through it.
Interesting how things seem different when you start to read both sides of an argument isn't it?
Posted by: Dwilkers | February 22, 2006 at 03:16 PM
maybe is Libby gets lucky the hapless folks in Fitz's office will make a mistake and just give him back his own notes? I am certain Kafka had avision about this prosecution and then wrote about it.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | February 22, 2006 at 03:19 PM
I have installed something which allowed me to copy the brief as it is impossible to work with in pdf format. I'm trying to see if Rick wants to print it at YARGB. If he doesn't and TM wants it here in that form, whistle.
I think Libby was particularly outraged by the "greymail" defense whisper campaign and does a good job with explaining why CIPA was designed to and prevent that.
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 03:21 PM
Heh. I love this part:
And wow. Read the bottom 2 paragraphs on page 8 if you want to know where this is going.
OK. This is going to be really fun.
Posted by: Dwilkers | February 22, 2006 at 03:26 PM
As insignificant minion to the goddess I can only say that what is sent will appear as soon as human hands are capable.
PS Those interested in the formation of Local 1 - Workers in the Temple - are urged to contact the undersigned if interested in the possibilty of - ouch, dammit, OK, so it's not permitted - can't we even talk about it?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 03:40 PM
It's not enough that Fitz never had a predicate for the investigation and Libby couldn't plead the Fifth--Oh, and I like the effort to avoid giving him the CIA referral stuff and his notes and catching Fitz on his own presser..
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 03:47 PM
Per the command of the goddess:
In re LibbY
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 03:55 PM
ouch, dammit, OK, so it's not permitted
Those finger swats of Rove's are wicked, aren't they?
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 04:02 PM
ah ah ah, . I saw a 4 and a 1 and a 5 at the end there Clarice..
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 04:04 PM
??????????????????
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 04:12 PM
"ten foot pole"
Well someone finally had to eyeroll out loud to that little bit of drama. I have many times.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 04:13 PM
Senate Hearings in Armed Services
Committee scheduled for tomorrow morning announced by Sen. Warner.
Reported by CNN
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 04:14 PM
Clark
I was trying to be discreet...sunny side of the nation, with bridges!wink:wink (really, I'm teasing)
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 04:16 PM
Clark? Clarice. Nevermind, no more cryptographs for me.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 04:17 PM
Rick, there are no unions in heaven..no need for them--it's like the old CCCP..
Posted by: clarice | February 22, 2006 at 04:22 PM
My God - it's the Big Rock Candy Mountain!!
Why couldn't we see it?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 04:31 PM
Republican Rep. Myrick NC has written a letter to President Bush regarding UAE port deal. It's probably an understatement to say that she doesn't seem keen on the idea.
"Not just no...
Posted by: pollyusa | February 22, 2006 at 05:01 PM
Thanks for the link to Libby's court filings, Clarice. Of the three discovery briefs (Libby's initial brief, Fitz's reply, and this, Libby's reply) this once seems to me to be the best. Not only that, but the argument on pages 27-28 concerning the materiality of Plame's classified status and any damage done by her exposure is quite similar to one I made on another thread.
Posted by: MJW | February 22, 2006 at 05:03 PM
Sen Warner was on Fox laying the trap that will be the Senate Armed Services Hearing tomorrow.
Will Hillary risk getting Zogby
even more angry with her? Will
she show up and lose lots of $$$
and maybe Michigan if the Dems are
dumb enough to nominate her in 2008??
Now the COO of Dubai Ports, Ted Bilkey - looks and sounds like an
American to me - is filling Wooooof
in on the details. He also mentioned how American Military are
in the booths at the UAE ports watching all the operations at the ports and all the American Military
vessels.
He also said the Israel shipping companies are his biggest customers.
Tomorrow will be great fun.
Let's see what Dems show up for the
hearing.
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 05:32 PM
It's probably an understatement to say that she doesn't seem keen on the idea.
Heh. It's also one of the clearest bits of communication I've seen in ages. Worth reproducing, even:
Posted by: Cecil Turner | February 22, 2006 at 06:07 PM
Today I am appalled by being on the same side as Jimmy Carter. Gad.
Posted by: AppalledConservative | February 22, 2006 at 06:14 PM
And what, pray tell, do Clinton & Gore have to say? Based on recent oration, they both surely must support the administration on this. Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: AppalledConservative | February 22, 2006 at 06:20 PM
This excerpt from Selwyn Duke's column at American Thinker today
is exactly why we should be looking forward to the Senate Armed Services Com's hearing tomorrow.
Clinton and Schumer are Profiling Muslims
Liberals aren’t thinkers, they’re “feelers.” Thus, they are not governed by absolutes but by expediency and what feels right at the moment. Profiling Muslims within the context of the port situation feels right, whereas doing so at airports doesn’t. It’s that simple. For this reason, a given liberal “principle,” for lack of a better word (it’s not quite accurate to call an ever-changing emotional preference a “principle”), is only pulled from the magician’s hat when it can be placed in the service of a liberal agenda. It’s the closest thing to a religious experience the Clintons and Schumers of the world will have. Their “principles” undergo a continual cycle of death and resurrection, the latter phase being animated by the desire to breathe life into deadly fallacies in need of buttressing.
Wow!
Will Hillary and the other Dems show up tomorrow?
Do any of these people understand that if anything went wrong at
any of the terminals - we do not have to invade the UAE.
We already OCCUPY the UAE.
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 06:54 PM
Appalled,
Maybe instead of thinking of it as being in line with Carter, think of it as Carter being in line with you for a change.
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 06:59 PM
Yeah, AC, Sue's right. Jimmy Carter might be on the right side once or twice in his life, though I actually doubt it's for the same reasons as for me.
Posted by: Forbes | February 22, 2006 at 07:14 PM
This is some pretty interesting politics, but I think Rick's post is about the only thing I've read so far that was particularly intelligent. I'd count myself among the staunchest of anti-Arab-extremist extremists, but really, how can anyone be hysterical about this who a) doesn't know what these companies do; b) isn't willing to change the laws allowing foreign companies to own American businesses, or at least manage port operations; and c) isn't an anti-Arab profiling racist? I mean, is UAE on a terrorist watch list, or at least a junior member of the Axis of Evil? What legally distinguishes them from Great Britain? Most Favored Nation trade status?
No offense to anyone here, but the whole premise for the concern is illogical -- especially the bit about how we need the Congress to teach the Administration about Middle Eastern terrorism.
I was listening to the great Karl Rove discussing this on a talk radio show today, and was struck by the fact that he didn't refer to anything even slightly political until the very end, when he simply mentioned that this deal had been public since October, I think it was, when it was reported on by Bloomberg News. Strangely, nobody took exception to it until now. Of course, Schumer's been talking about port security since then, as larwyn points out, but for some reason this particular deal never came up.
Does anyone happen to know if this company is pro-Union, or if the Longshoremen's Union is pro-Dubai Ports World or contributed to any of these great patriots squawking about this?
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2006 at 07:19 PM
What happens to our bases in UAE if Congress scraps the deal?
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Thank you, Sue. A much better way to look at it. Some of my fellow conservatives find themselves (shudder) in bed with Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer. We have in common that we all feel...dirty.
Posted by: AppalledConservative | February 22, 2006 at 07:29 PM
Well, Ex, the Longshoremen have a contract with the Port Newark Container Terminal LLC. In this transaction, DP World is acquiring the joint venture (one-half) interest owned by P&O. The other JV partner is A.P. Moller-Maersk, who themselves have other large operations at the port. Labor would be a moot issue, IMO.
This is mostly a story dominated by people who don't know what they're talking about--and who continue to mischaracterize it. DP World will be one of many companies operating in the port--they will NOT be operating the port.
Posted by: Forbes | February 22, 2006 at 07:32 PM
Extraneous, you should be a reporter. I discussed that over at YARGB, pointing to a New York Sun article that notes every one of the big voices from the NY area are recipients of Longshoremen largesse.
BTW, I also fixed Rick's link earlier today.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | February 22, 2006 at 07:32 PM
Just one question: if we nix this deal, what company is going to be managing the ports?
Have any in the Chicken Little crowd even thought as far as that? I doubt it.
Posted by: Seixon | February 22, 2006 at 07:45 PM
Good one, Charlie. That makes a lot more sense. Still a minefield for Bush, since not too many people are reading about this stuff.
And Seixon, I heard Peter King say last week that no American company even bid on this deal.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2006 at 07:48 PM
Extraneus:
Albright and Daschle firms and companies have ties with the Dubai Group. Let's see dems try to spin that!
Posted by: maryrose | February 22, 2006 at 07:54 PM
I've already pointed out that we not only know the UAE's address,
we already occupy the country.
Dinocrat, factual and perceptive:
America's Cartoon Riots
The Dubai Ports deal to purchase UK-based Peninsula & Oriental is very old news. NYT, 11/30/05:
Dubai to Buy P&O, British Shipping Line, for $5.7 Billion
LONDON, Nov. 29 - Dubai, the upstart sheikdom of the United Arab Emirates, agreed Tuesday to purchase the storied British shipping company Peninsular and Oriental Steam
Here’s the January 12, 2006 article in the Wall Street Journal called Investors Expect
Battle for P&O:
Smelling a battle between a pair of rich bidders amid a boom in cargo volume, investors pushed shares of port operator Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co.
We think that one of the key things that has changed now to inflame this issue is the cartoon riots we have observed over the last few weeks. Americans have seen out-of-control Arabs and Muslims threatening mayhem and slaughter over some stupid cartoons. They have seen the Arab and Muslim governments either instigating the riots or unable to control the marauders. They have seen a craven response by the MSM and a feckless mealy-mouthed response from the US government over wanton destruction and threats to life and limb. And the American people are now saying: screw this! The last thing we want is to be told we must be sensitive and understanding and these are really our allies and so forth.
But, before the Dems/Left begin to take bows and think they have won continue reading:
The outpouring of outrage from the Left and the Right has opportunistic elements of course, but beyond that we sense that the American people are fed up with being told they have to be sensitive to the wishes of the Arab and Muslim world — a world in which the man-in-the-street appears to be either directed by anti-American forces, or so out-of-control that he will take it upon himself to kill Americans any way he can.
Dinocrat thinks America is saying - "shove that P.C. Multicultural nonsense" and that
isn't good for the Left.
IMHO don't think the "elite artsy" profs at Harvard should be celebrating too hard -
Summers resignation will do more to expose them than his toughing it out.
Posted by: larwyn | February 22, 2006 at 08:02 PM
Maryrose,
Where did you get the information that Albright and Daschle have ties to the Dubai company? Can you link it?
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 08:06 PM
Pop Quiz:
I am the ruler of one of a handful of small ME fiefdoms surrounded by ravenous wolves:
My title is _______
I am the ruler of one of a handful of small ME fiefdoms surrounded by ravenous wolves, one of whom invaded my country with the pretext that it was the 19th province of his country:
My title is _______
I am a ruler of one of a handful of small ME fiefdoms surrounded by ravenous wolves (one of whom invaded my (or a similiar) country with the pretext that it was the 19th province of his country):
My very, very best friend in all the whole wide world is Uncle _____
There are those who support terrorism agains my very, very best friend, I will:
a) Support and encourage these terrorists in any way possible.
b) Introduce these terrorists to Achmed Surestroke who holds the position of head headsman in my fiefdom.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 22, 2006 at 08:26 PM
More stupidity. Everywhere, we can see that Bush doesn't know what every agency is doing at all times! That just shocks me. I always thought the Pres was on top off all these details, and that the rest of the beuracracy was just waiting for direction from the charismatic leader.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2006 at 09:08 PM
Sue:
I read it on the internet news page this afternoon and I am unable to link it. Perhaps someone else can?
Posted by: maryrose | February 22, 2006 at 09:36 PM
Ed Lasky reported about the Daschle,Albright connection to Dubai Group connection.
Posted by: maryrose | February 22, 2006 at 09:57 PM
http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=4515>Democrat officials' firm helped Dubai purchase ports
Thanks Maryrose. That was what I needed to find it.
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Well, dang. The meat is behind the WSJ subscription wall.
Posted by: Sue | February 22, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Bush doesn't know what every agency is doing at all times!
David Gregory says he's secretive, closely guarding every detail.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | February 22, 2006 at 10:26 PM
Sue, Here's the salient bit:
"Dubai Ports World executives plan to visit Washington this week to brief congressional leaders and staffers and administration officials on the deal. Girding for a battle, the company is tapping well-connected consulting firms for help: Downey-McGrath Group, founded by former congressmen from both parties, and Alston & Bird LLC, whose advisers include former Senate Democratic Leader Thomas Daschle of South Dakota.
"In the background is Albright Group, a firm founded by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. The Albright Group doesn't lobby but has provided strategic advice to Dubai Ports World, specifically on expanding the company's presence in China."
Posted by: JM Hanes | February 23, 2006 at 04:16 AM
The pattern here should be getting
obvious. Just as no Dem complained to any briefer on NSA for four years - they suddenly with the help of the NYT make big
kerfluffle.
The Dems well knew this was coming
down as it was in the papers and as
American Thinker linked to the article that exposed the Albright and Daschel connections to the deal/UAE.
That why the mentioning mentioning of ports began and then they waited until only days before deal was done to raise the "Two Lantern - Arabs are Coming".
We know about Rocky's plan memo on
intelligence attack.
We must pay attention to the next
mentionings, mentionings, mentionings.
I watched most of the briefing today and compared to others, Levin, Kennedy, Byrd and Hillary were subdued and emphasized the law
- none were swinging those two
lanterns.
Bet that we soon will see videos that remind Americans of the terrific Airbases and seaport we have over there.
DP is willing to wait for investigation and delay deal - so
we will see what Hillary does to
try to get back her cred with Arabs. That "no vouchers" for
"jihad schools" notwithstanding.
Posted by: larwyn | February 24, 2006 at 02:36 AM