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February 17, 2006

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clarice

MJW If he left out a relevant case citation or had deliberately misstated a statute he'd be in big trouble. See how close to the edge he plays? How long will the Courts here allow this? Not much longer I think. The federal courts in DC are just a notch below the Supreme Court in that all the critical federal issues are decided here and they are very sophisticated.

If I were Libby's lawyers I'd do a nice footnote on this tap dance routine.They do NOT like this kind of crap.

maryrose

Bravo Soylent,An auspicious beginning...

Rick Ballard

The faint sense of nausea that always came over him whenever he had to actually deal with Mowlitt's Ass passed rather quickly this evening. He had known that there would be some whining about throwing Hackett under the bus, after all, how many thousands of words had the little creep written touting a rather solid defeat as a victory? In the end, little Marky had proven as malleable as ever. A few head pats and the promise of more money were all that it took to secure the betrayal. It had actually been a bit more difficult to convince Schmuck to go public with the request that people not donate any more money to Hackett in order to complete the public humiliation.

The netroots campaign was proving to be one of the more entertaining strategies he had ever concocted. He wondered if the fifty-six "ex-military" candidates so lovingly recruited through the campaign Mowlitt's Ass continually brayed about had all received the synopsis of the Hackett affair? Was adding the brief summary of the way the Clinton's treated uniformed personnel in the White House - as stewards and bellboys - a bit too much? They couldn't all be as dumb as Hackett. It probably didn't matter. Scmuck's public knifing followed by having Hackett's netroots champion roll his body under the bus were the important points. Ex-military people were funny about betrayal and disloyalty. Now they needed a little reminder that just because someone wore a uniform at one time was no guarantee of victory. Ask John 'Reporting for Doody' Kerry.

JM Hanes

Jeff

"Well, among other things...."

All of which justify ad hominems precisely how?

clarice

R/S/S whistled in his basement press room, clipping the 56 copies of Mother Jones and placing them in the All Vets are Murders Envelopes for mailing to the Dem saps .


Clever is the man who mailed Schumer the copy of Derzshinsky's blueprint for The Trust with a note--Use Kos scrawled in red across the top.

Now, he said, time to call and thank Whittington for helping destroy Milbank, Caffrey and Gregory.
"And I get paid for this," he laughed to himself.

pollyusa

Jeff

My friends and I occasionally marvel that Armando at dkos is a lawyer, with the way he reasons and assesses facts

And I thought I was the only one. Nice to know I am in good company.

maryrose

Rove/S/S rubbed his hands together furiously to engender some warmth,"God it's gotten cold tonight." he thought as he ruminated on the interview he had just witnessed. How appropriate that the republican senator to actually propose a solution to the NSA kerfuffle should be none other than Mike DeWine, running for re-election in Ohio. Thank God those Kos-kids buckled under and were able to grudgingly accept the decision that Hackett had to go.
R/S/S/ chuckled to himself, his plan was working-no one in Ohio was going to elect a Northeast Ohio liberal,not with tax cutting republicans and education advocates running.Plus Brown's old seat was ripe for the pickin...Not a bad day's work.

kim

As the ticker chattered softly in the corner, The Depilated Woodpecker paused in his pecking long enough to call his most effective mine industry assay salter. "Let 'em know they gotta get rid of the Medieval Warm Period. Nobody will be able to show how those druids pumped all that carbon dioxide through Stonehenge."

The early bird gets to spin the worm.
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clarice

His plan for the week to come was taking shape. Getting Kerry to follow Gore's Saudi manifesto. It was too easy. Really , except for the call to Faisal, the whole thing could be handled by his secretary.

He rifled thru his rolodex--yup, every single ex-US diplomat to the ME who was still alive (and a couple who weren't) were on the Saudi payroll...Did he even dare to dream..This one was so special and would explode in October, just weeks before the mid-terms.

caroline99

Oh Thank Gawd, a site with people of right mind!
I am sick and tired of the MSM going on and on about how great it is that the V.P.of the U.S shot some old f**k in the face for their ratings.
May I remind them of a BLUE DRESS?? Now that's one helluva shot to the face that I won't forget!
I mean seriously, let's get over it!
It was an accident, end of disscussion!

As to this recent court filing, on page 11 Fitzgerald "alludes"
to an entity (witness/mole) which Libby and his defense do not know the particulars of. Fitzgerald argues that it's immaterial to charges against Libby ( yeah, whatever!)

My question is: if this person is a mole, then isn't this a blatant abuse of prosecutorial miscunduct?
I'm not a lawyer, but I read a lot.

kim

The toupee'd aide laughed quietly to himself while regretting the missed opportunity. Just down the hallway the Senator he'd just charged with demanding on the floor of the chamber details of its President's blood alcohol level was being derailed into an antechamber with the call of "Teddy, come have a little sip" and his wig felt just a little loose at the missed opportunity for a Senate moment to compare with seared memories.
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Mitchell

Fitz needs to break out his FBI boys to go back and interview the neighbors. Maybe they know what Libby's notes mean.

larwyn

Soylent is hard act to follow -
but using his form of bold to discriminate our R/S/S chapters
from "normal" thread discussion.

He stepped back thru the hospital doors and gave out a hearty laugh as an aide handed him the phone "That throat clearing worked great. You were on live everywhere. And clips will play all weekend. Shame I can't get a statue for the best direction of my life. Hope you guys select the title so I can get the captioning done before the February 2009 release. Ha! Ha!"

Wilkerson at 78 was pleased with himself - he was really taking
very active initiatives to give back to this land and country he
loved. "Hang that "living constitution" bull pucky!"he
muttered.

The eminent domain case was only the beginning. Not concerned with expenditures to keep the case ongoing and bothersome, it was great fun. Problem was keeping it
in the media so that the voter this November was thinking
"Hell, if they can take a rich man's property
- what can they do to me?"
The Dems knew it and were already
embargoing stories about the case.
He needed a great PR campaign and that was a problem for a rich white male "victim".

One evening last fall after a day of hunting on a friend's ranch, the hunting party gathered to enjoy a fine meal. They discussed those subjects they always discussed but with a bit more urgency. They were getting on,
and they wanted their great grandchildren to have the same
freedoms they enjoyed. But the LSM's was doing its level best
to deify PETA and the Anti-Gun Lobbies and to demonize the NRA
and meat eaters, for God's sake!

Not all was dire, humor and wit flowed with the wine. A few of the lines thrown about to great laughter wove the upcomming movie of "sheepherders" and guns - lines not suitable for this family friendly site.

One of the few Hollywood Conservatives, not in the closet,
was in attendance. He said "We need an event - a complete
attention grab on the media. We need to get them to do all the work for us. Hmmmm a twisty turny thriller sting.....yeah, that's
what we need"


The fine bourbon poured, the fine cigar smoke drifted and
the storyboard was prepared.

"The video is priceless, simply priceless."
Wilkerson thought as he locked the masters away in a his lockbox in the secret vault built to withstand nuclear attack.

At 78 you sure don't want to hurry time, so he prayed that God would keep him alive and in good health for at least 3 more years -just to see Cheney's, Rove's,Card's,both Bushs' and Scalia's faces when they saw the true story of Feburary 11th, 2006.


All will then finally understand the words he spoke today.
That all must take risks to enjoy our lives.


Rick Ballard

Howard Dean stared in disbelief at the printouts lying before him on desk. There wasn't enough cash on hand to run a decent media buy in Idaho or Iowa for God's sake. Casey was screaming for help in PA and the party might be able to swing a one week late night FM buy in Philly - if that. Maryland was a mess, the candidate had some dough but not enough to overcome his lack of personality. Menendez was a joke in NJ, the Kean kid had him on the mat and it was going to take a ton of money and a vote from every Dem who had died in the past ten years to hold the seat. He really needed to talk to someone and he had been waiting for a return call from Schrum for twenty minutes. Suddenly, Dean slammed his hand down on the desk - "Dammit, Heather, the only reason you have a job here is because I was doing your uncle a favor. The least you can do is get him on the phone when I want to talk to him."

Heather smiled inwardly but put a tremble in her voice as she replied "I'm sorry, Dr. Dean. I left a message for Uncle Bob - I'll try again." She knew she would get through this time - she had a TV on and had watched "Uncle Bob" exit Marine One with the President and head into the WH five minutes ago. She picked up the phone and dialed the number that would set off one of the three vibrating pagers (each with a different 'feel') that "Uncle Bob" kept with him at all times. "I'll just keep trying until I get him, Dr. Dean."

maryrose

He couldn't believe his good fortune- GORE'S COMEBACK SPEECH IN sAUDI aRABIA WAS NOT ONLY UNIVERSALLY PANNED IT WAS TOTALLY DROWNED OUT BY GUNSLINGER cHENY and his Wild West Show. Now Gore's got to start from scratch to become viable again. Tipper is smart enough to realize this quest of Gore's is a fool's errand. He's about to be blown out of the water along with the poseur Kerry. Evan Bayh-now that's a horse of a different color.

ben

yes maryrose, but while rove smiled as the national dems got rid of a telegenic dynamic hackett in favor of a tired threadbare liberal like brown, the buzz over at kos was whether whittington had really died and his clone left the hospital, or more importantly, what was behind the rove-cheney conspiracy to shoot big time republican donors.

kim

Next you'll be trying to tell me Senator Chaffee has assumed Whittington's identity.
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caroline99

Ummm......
What's with the sci fi creepy stuff?
Am I in the wrong place? I thought we could discuss the topic posted at the header?

kim

It's Friday Night Live!
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Rick Ballard

It's "live mike" Friday night. Only on one thread and only for a few hours. Prosecutorial misconduct has been mentioned here before but no one is making a solid assertion of it as a matter of fact. Fitzgerald is dancing on the edge. I believe that he would be very happy with a dismissal. The game just isn't going quite as he had planned. He should have stuck with Arab terrorists with stupid attorneys.

ben

what you think is sci-fi is reality for liberals...they are unhindered by logic...if cheney shot whittington there must be a sinister plot by karl rove...

ok back to fitz and libby, caroline is impatient with lesser topics...

larwyn

?Whittington, Whittington, Whittington NOT Wilkerson!

Writing 100 times in my Ursuline
Academy notebook - in proper penmanhip.

So involved in plot forgot character.

caroline99

It's Friday Night Live!
: kim


Alrighty then,
I guess I'll get outta the way and come back another day.

kim

Ol' Chromedome consulted his chronometer. If we're still synchronized, he thought, he'll be just clueing in Fitz to go check on just what Whittington knew about Valerie Plame, and the girl of the West Texas corral, Burkett's pal. And he didn't want to forget the call to Pinch giving him permission to hogtie himself. "Quite a day I've had" he congratulated himself, then corrected himself to "Quite a minute".
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kim

OK, c99, tell me more about p. 11. What is the mystery? Why is he alluding to this unknown if Libby doesn't know about him? I'm not being snide; I suspect you're on to something.
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Specter

jerry...jerry...jerry...

You actually came back to make more posts? I mean, after your conspiracy theory yesterday - you know the one I'm talkin' about (not the plantation). Remember - you said that Bush gave Cheny the ability to declassify stuff so that some day they could use it to ambush somebody politically....sheesh. I'd've thought you'd be to embarrassed....

maryrose

Larwyn:
I knew we had something in common I attended an Ursuline high school and college. Rove made sure to take the time to schmooze with Tom Kean Sr. and to set a specific time for the final fundraiser during the 4th of July weekend. What a great kid Jr. was!' My work here is done,time to move on to Maryland and the Steele campaign. That indictment against Schumer's two assistants for credit card theft is really helping his campaign. Mfume is imploding and as for the rest-sloppy seconds. Isn't it amazing that other thanObama,the dems have not really promoted African-Americans for higher office.

ben

yes, beware of burkett, he could be faxing something from closest kinko's to the ranch to fitz right now....and this time, mary mapes bought him a 1947 underwood typewriter on ebay.

clarice

caroline. I am sorry if we seemed rude to you. Feel free to run thru the other threads and the archives, But Friday nights we have this fun crazy thread we do.

ben

its not amazing at all...democrats are not interested in black politicians..they want black voters to keep voting for white democrats...thats why they hate re-districting that creates republican districts in exchange for heavily minority districts...nobody left to vote for white democrats...their "minority strategy" is resulting in more minority democrats being elected, and more white AND black republicans.

larwyn

maryrose,
When I attended the good sisters were in full regalia. Never saw a hair on any of their heads - but
will never forget how they could cut to the bone with a look!
Great Ladies all.

Jeff

clarice - The claim you had been making is that only potential IIPA violations were under investigation, and that Espionage Act violations could not be. That is manifestly wrong, as not only the indictment makes manifestly clear but also Fitzgerald's August 27, 2004 affidavit, with its language that precisely echoes Fitzgerald's description of 18 USC 793. Compare, for example, p.1 of the affidavit (at the bottom) with p. 9 of the indictment. And then of course there is p. 28 and attendant footnote in the affidavit.

You now appear to be arguing, along with that partisan hack masquerading as a legal expert whose legal judgment I trust even less than yours, that possible Espionage Act violations should not ever have been under investigation, because you (and your hack friend) cannot conceive how they might be relevant. That is perfectly fine; in my judgment, Fitzgerald has infinitely better judgment than you or Toensing. But I would never dream it possible to take away your right to your own judgment. Your initial claim is just an error of fact - the fact is that potential Espionage Act violations have been under investigation. This newer one is just, in my judgment, an error in judgment.

And JM Hanes, the point, of course, was that there were no ad feminems involved. I was explaining to you why I didn't bother to go through the evidence yet again.

pollyusa - Glad to be of help.

Rick Ballard

No traction at all, Jeff. It really sucks being an anonymous loser, doesn't it? Makes you a bit spiteful about people who have accomplished a thing or three and aren't afraid to use their own names.

You need to take a lemon drop, lie down and consider why you're a loser and why everyone you admire and trust is on the losing team. Why do people make fun of your run on, rambling, sixth degree of seperation, half assed posts?

I'll bet your folks told you that you were smart and had a good chance of going places, right?

They lied.

clarice

Jeff, once again--
On its face The Espionage Act doesn't apply.
A few days check of matters entirely in the control of his client, the CIA, would have shown Fitz the IIPA didn't apply.

At that point a reasnable prosecutor would have ended the investigation.

Saying in the affidavit that the SP was investigating whether the Espionage Act of IIPA applied was to establish a cover for continuing when reason would have told him there wasn't.

Now, for the last time show me how The Espionage Act could possibly have applied--it deals with cryptography and movement of ships and giving that information an enemy.

Specter

Gee Jeff....nice that you can drop in once in a while and give your OPINION. Which is all it is BTW. Whatever Fitzy was investigating he obviously DID NOT FIND IT. Simple. Unless you think he was investigating Obstruction? And it still comes down to was Plame covert or even classified. Fitz claims to have no evidence to those things and even if he did it wouldn't be pertinent to the Perjury charges. AHHHH...but it is pertinent to the Obstruction charge no matter how you look at it. Hope he's got someting to turn over to justify that charge - even US Prosecutors are not allowed to just make up charges....

maryrose

Jeff: We all like you here but you need to lighten up. Why don't you join our Friday Night Live and indulge your creative side?
Larwyn: Do you remember how the sisters rosary beads would clang against the desks as they would walk up the aisles.? They seemed to float down the halls and they moved so silently.My old high school had those clanging steam heat radiators and looked like an old castle.


Kerry was excited! " I knew New Hampshire wouldn't let me down" Today they passed a law that allows the secretary of state to declare registration for the presidential primary whenever he wants to. I guess we showed those Michigan upstarts not to mess with our "First in the Nation status.' I know New Hampshire still sees me as their favorite son- I did win in a landslide in 04."I've got Feingold nipping at my heels but Hillay doesn't scare me- the Union Leader is not going to endorse her. Besides saying you will vote for a woman president and doing it are two different things.

ben

Jeff is trying to wow us with the scary "I" word...he is probably telling people right now on other posts that Cheney is being "investigated" for the shooting.
Did Fitz check for any possible violations of a whole bunch of Acts, Statutes, Laws and Rules? Probably....is Libby "under investigation" for all this stuff...no.
Under the being investigated mantra, Joe Wilson is probably being investigated for perjury, false statements, divulging of classified information, etc.

topsecretk9

On its face The Espionage Act doesn't apply.
A few days check of matters entirely in the control of his client, the CIA, would have shown Fitz the IIPA didn't apply.

"Don't ask. Don't tell. PRETEND!"

topsecretk9

oops……©

Specter

When I went to the Catholic Schools in Indiana we lived right across the street from the school and convent. The rectory was 5 house down the street. It was pretty frightening when one or more nuns came down the walk way in front of the convent - we always knew when they crossed in the middle of the street like that just where they were headed - right to our house!

But what was even scarier was this. The basement of the school had classrooms in the middle and the hallway all the way around. We used to go watch in the windows in the evenings and the weekends - the nuns used to roller skate around the basement hallway! Picture this - watching in the window during the day - the hallways were dark for the most part - only the security lights on (you know every 4th light). From the dark a nun would come quickly gliding into the light - in full habit - and then right back into the dark again. Nightmares....

And I'll always remember the Samurai Nuns - you know - they'd whip out those 3 foot rulers from under those voluminous robes and with a shrill, "Kaia" some kids knuckles would get hit. And then - magically - the ruler would disappear back into the robes. Real ninja stuff....

Rick Ballard

"We all like you here..."

Oh, not so. Occasionally entertained by firm determination to keep the blinders on but liked...

How can you like someone unwilling (or more probably, unable) to support assertions made as if they were fact? Regurgitation of Koslandian spin isn't terribly endearing to me.

clarice

Trixie was buffing her nails at AFL-CIO headquarters. Things were taking on a spartan look. The last two unions to leave, the Laborers and the Operating Engineers removed the huge bronze statues of The Working Man and Woman which had graced the receptionists' lobby area for decades and the marble floor where they'd sat for so long was discolored leaving two huge pale splotches the size of the Stalinist style art which once sat there.

Last year, the Teamsters took the linked rubber draperies and the windows they used to cover were splotched and streaked.
Staff had been cut and she was now in charge of making out the campaign checks.
She didn't know why they gave her a check signing machine that signed "Jack Abramoff" but she figured he must be one of the many vice-presidents she hadn't met yet.

topsecretk9

Jeff is trying to wow us with the scary "I" word...he is probably telling people right now on other posts that Cheney is being "investigated" for the shooting.

No, he's remarking on how he'd not like to play poker with Fitz, a Prosecutor who'd ya think would have taken up chess instead (i think)

clarice

If Fitz played chess he'd do it with checkers filed into various shapes which erroneously failed to include kings, queens or bishops.

topsecretk9

We used to go watch in the windows in the evenings and the weekends - the nuns used to roller skate around the basement hallway! Picture this

I can, only I learned that they really weren't grim and mean on the weekends. My first grade teacher was actually nurturing outside of school.

ben

Fitz is holding aces and eights....what is Jeff holding?

Specter

Meanwhile at the Debutant's Ball, Splash was whetting his whistle. He was remembering telling his secretary to make sure that she (and it was a woman and he insisted on calling her a secretary)wrote his annual membership check to the boys club he belonged to. He couldn't quite remember the name, and whether or not he was actually a member, but hey, the $100 bucks a year was nothing compared to what he spent supplying his personal yacht with alcohol...and debutants when he could....

maryrose

I remember the nuns would ring a bell to end recess and we would all freeze-complete silence-then another bell and we would walk to our lines. We lived 3 doors down so we could hear the bell to start school- run -then freeze- then get back in line.

larwyn

Good one Clarice.

Specter, scary - but we learned more thru high school than I think
they learn in universities today.

My most shocking nun memory was in
third grade, attending Saturday art
classes at the museum, I had to use the ladies' room. A nun came out of an actual "potty" stall. Prior to that it really had never
entered my mind that they actually
were that human.
They were quite amazing women back then.

Specter

Do you remember when we changed over to the new Mass? The nuns grabbed me one morning and walked be back down that walkway - we jaywalked across to my house with two of them escorting me. Man - I thought I was in big trouble....But they wanted me to add a tie to my blue pants, blue shirt, and blue sweater outfit. They had picked me to walk the cruets down the aisle...it was the first time it had been done - and they picked a girl from my class to carry the chalice. We were both so nervous...Heck - I was only in 2nd grade.

ben

nuns take dumps????? could it be that mohammed......nahhhhh

Specter

careful ben....we need our embassies....

Jeff

Now, for the last time show me how The Espionage Act could possibly have applied--it deals with cryptography and movement of ships and giving that information an enemy.

Let's go ask Larry Franklin.

And clarice, again, you previously argued that Espionage Act violations were not under investigation because they could not be. You were wrong. Period. Now you're arguing they shouldn't have been. My claim was that you were wrong on the first point. And you were.

Wow, Rick Ballard, your drunk hate, self-hate I presume, is breathtaking.

Specter

still no proof for clarice huh Jeff? What - you can't find it or what? We've been waiting breathlessly for you to respond to her challenge. But...nope....just more empty rhetoric....

ben

you are right, specter...inflamed hordes could be hacking into this site right now....

Specter

Maybe we could post Joe W. to one in say....pakistan?

Rick Ballard

Don't confuse contempt with hate, Jeff. You aren't really worth any more than that.

Specter

Returning to the Debutant's Ball...Jeff kept trying to introduce his younger sister MaryJo to Splash. He was hoping he would be smitten with her and take her for a ride in his car....

larwyn

Specter,
You're like the media with Mr.
Whittington, I was long graduated
when they changed the liturgy.
Not Latin Mass still does not feel
like Mass to me.

ben

uh oh...jeff is back...after exhausting "quagmire", "corruption". and "secrecy" on other sites he is back for more
"investigation" here..

Specter

As an altar boy I learned the mass in latin....Tatum Ergo....

Specter

Enough fun for tonight...it is late for me....Have a good one all...even you Jeff.

maryrose

Specterand Larwyn;
Why were we so afraid of the nuns? They always seemed so perfect and had total control in the classroom.You never wanted to be on the receiving end of that look.Specter I can just picture you being escorted across the street, I bet your feet didn't even touch the ground. But if you were chosen like that you know what the other kids were thinking-brown-nose.

Jeff

still no proof for clarice huh Jeff?

Proof for what, exactly? You don't take the Franklin case to be evidence that you don't have to have anything to do with ships or whatever to be accused of Espionage Act violations? And if I'm not mistaken, Franklin pleaded guilty to 18 USC 793 violations. So clarice's claim that it's just obvious -- on its face -- that no Espionage Act violation should be charged seems obviously wrong. You want me to prove that it shouldn't be so? I'm not going to touch that with a ten foot pole. One of the points I was originally trying to make is that clarice is incapable of separating these questions, where, what's more, her views of what should and shouldn't be are just dictated by her deeply partisan views. That's part of what makes it so weird that she's a lawyer.

And for what it's worth, I'm uneasy with Franklin's plea and even more uneasy with the government going after Rosen and Weissman, however much I may not like much of what AIPAC does. That political difference is, of course, irrevelant to whether going after the pair is sensible, wise and justifiable. And oh yeah, I think it's entirely appropriate that Fitzgerald is prosecuting Libby, regardless of how much I may disagree politically with Libby.

larwyn

maryrose,
They got thru to you that one was here on earth to do one's best, and they knew when it was or
was not your best.
Hence the effectiveness of the look. You knew that they knew you had "slacked off" on something.
Guess they were no different than
great master sargents today.

topsecretk9

BTW just got of my cell with Turd Blossom...

Here is the skinny on how the "pundit payola" gig goes.

Pay a bunch of dumbass pundit-ity types to write crap that no one really pays attention to, BUT people start finding out about those stooopid "if you want to write it, we'll pay you --wink wink" stories about ice caps and well a bunch of other stoopid stuff no one reads. ---and here is the hook --- MEANWHILE, Rove has an automatic transfer deposit in Peggy Noonan's account...See that's the trigger. As soon as that cash cow dumps Noonan gets to work on one of her gooey, flowery almost tactile but ill timed, weird chalkboard ready with an eraser type columns that ALL the OTHER "objective, non-advocacy gatekeepers of what's real" type journo's USE for their basis (depending on which side their on) columns (ie. SEE Noonan evan says...and the right? oh as much as they love peggters lusciously lightness, when they disagree...they don't say anything, you know because BIRDS sing practically when she's around)

So you have this sorta oddish (because it Noonan, so you know, she is sort of learning about the beauty of flowers and how since she just learned this it means that everyone must just sorta of desire to learn the beauty of tulips and well obviously just learning of this beauty means we craved normalcy, and so any stratergeriest worth his salt KNOWs the next candidate needs tulips and a giant eraser for the chalkboard we called life or reality)

So anyhoo, "Turd B." said, and I quote "PegMe is just classic. She is so friggin' reliable. Everyone friggin' loves her. Jon Stewart practically cums all over himself when she frets about "life", GAWD she makes me cum she is so dang good. Kurtz? Holy sheepherders, he practically cuts and pasties her ENTIRE piece. She writes, Sunday wonders...it's..it's..anyways, She gets the "DEPO" [that's short for deposit} and we get the "WEEP-O"

Opps, forgot the goal.

I've goofed it all up, here's the deal. Slip Peg the dough, she writes some gushy "meaningful" criticism of BUSH, the left picks it up...you know IF PEGGY SAYS THIS, IT MUST BE RIGHT (isn't that straight from the gag "yes man" electronic office gift? yes) and then they RUN with it and um ...I think you get it.

Turd, reading the FRIDAY night fun, should be historically accurate that all

Any questions you want asked?

maryrose

Larwyn:
You have hit it on the nose exactly. Somehow it felt like the good sisters could see right through you.My aunt was a nun and my sister in law is one also. I know how to get along with them and even went driving with one older sister learning how to drive.They taught me the importance of service to others.

Jeff;
I admire your tenacity but I have to tell you I just don't think this case holds water. Why would Libby deliberately lie to the grand jury when he knows what happened to Clinton and Martha Stewart. It just doesn't make sense to me. I read on another info site that reporters' sources are being with-held from the defense because theyMIGHT be used for some other purpose. They are denying him his right to a full defense and the ability to fully understand this he said /she said evidence. V.Novak and Cooper have been real stand-up people during all this haven't they? { she said ironically.] It has become a sham and a scam.

Jeff

Oh no, Rick, don't worry, I wasn't confused. Yours is hate, rest assured, however blind you are to it, since it's ultimately self-directed. Your delusions about how you come across didn't make me forget the difference between contempt and hate.

topsecretk9

Maryrose

They are denying him his right to a full defense and the ability to fully understand this he said /she said evidence.

Fitz, denied himself this, which is a little weird cuz the big dollah boyz, um, gonna true that!

larwyn

One last R/S/S - h/t to GatewayPundit

"Have I lost it? I have no
recollection of having really gotten into Bill's mind yet. But here it is - in print - in Pakistan
FCS. Upping Gore?"
Questioning himself he fumbled trying to locate the correct secret pocket where he kept the registration and timeline of every
operation he was running.
He was not losing it - no registration - this was not his operation. It was a rogue ops.
He reread:

The Pakistani Daily Times reports:


Former US president Bill Clinton on Friday condemned the publication of Prophet Muhammad’s (PBUH) caricatures by European newspapers and urged countries concerned to convict the publishers.

Talking to reporters after meeting Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz in Islamabad, Clinton said he disagreed with the caricatures and that the publication was against religious and ethical norms. Clinton said he had no objection to peaceful demonstrations being held worldwide, but this was not the time for violence. He said it was the time to promote inter-faith harmony and stand together on the issue.

He said the people’s religious convictions should be respected at all costs and the media should be disallowed to play with the religious sentiments of other faiths. He said the media could criticise any issue including governments and people, but nobody had the right to play with the sentiments of other faiths.

His eyes glinted as his brain went into full process mode,"He's thrown her off the bus! He's out there making deals to be 'King of the World', the new
Kofi, and he's thrown her to the wolves."

He roared with laughter hearing that "boy from Hope" accent saying;
Well, darlin, you naw how I feel bout polls. And darlin, you are jess not gittin the numbers.
We gots to triangulate this and Kofi's goin sooner than George.
Now now, Hill hon, put down that
lamp......"

Only other possiblity was that this
is a Cheney ops. He had no plans that involved firearms this weekend
and was challenging the LSM to cover this story.

He quickly copied article and links
- pasted in email form and pressed
send.

Try to bury this one Pinch!

topsecretk9

Yours is hate, rest assured, however blind you are to it,

Jeff...please tell me you have vested in this, some real vested? because friend, WE NEED SUNGLASSES the light is getting so darn bright.

topsecretk9

larwyn,

are you west coasting? time thing, i am

topsecretk9

test

larwyn

TS,
IT'S 1:31AM HERE!

Just ready to turn off for the night - but the post on GatewayPundit could not be overlooked.

Have all the former Dem presidents
and vice presidents gone insane??
Or just trying to tie up the muslim vote this November.

It is stunning - truly stunning.

larwyn

why are we in bold?

larwyn

Here the link for the Bill in
Pakistan story:
Bill Clinton Urges Convicting Muhammad Cartoon Publishers

topsecretk9

okay, but you east coasters that do late on a regular basis,

NO offense ---have some kick ass stamina and/or that older person no sleep thing going ---of which I mean NO offense

( My grandma was 97 last month and still makes my bed behind me when I spend the night (grrrrr!), knows what a "blog" is and doubles as a short order breakfast cook, so I am hip to the THAT thing)

topsecretk9

outta pride, I should mention, that the 97 year old women that asks "would you like sausage with your bacon and eggs" lives by herself!

larwyn

TS,
Not nearly that long in this life, tho I sometimes feel like it. Hours
more a reflection of some permanent
damage - so irratic sleeping cycles - not a dependable night owl.

Soylent Red

I have returned, with my muse filled with beer.

I see in the interim that the seed I have planted is now in need of some fertilizer. And so I give you this:

Western Nebraska, May 1973

As Karl drove the dilapidated Pinto through the desolate Sandhills, his companion thought of how best to bring up the topic. It was his job to instruct Turd Blossom to maturity, but the task was neither entertaining nor pleasurable.

"Karl–what do you remember about growing up?" he started.

"I dunno. I don't remember much specifically. Just a lot of tests and doctors. I think I must have been sickly," Karl replied.

Karl took a bite of his foil wrapped Sonic burger and seemed to reflect on what he had said. His companion stared at him and started again.

"You don't remember anything about the doctors. Anything that went on during the tests?"

"No, not really. A lot of blood samples and aptitude tests. Mostly I remember my mother telling me I was different from other kids, and that I should work to try to fit in."

Over a mouthful of fries, Karl's companion pressed further. "Fit in how?"

"Oh you know," Karl said. "Keep a low profile. Don't show off with how much I know."

"You know a lot, don't you Karl. Maybe more than most of your friends."

Karl reflected for a minute and then cautiously responded. "Well, you know, I remember a lot of things. What's weird is that I don't remember ever learning any of those things. It's like I've always known them."

"I understand. I know exactly what you're talking about," the companion said.

The Pinto cruised through the wasteland, and Karl stared absently out at the desolate vista ahead. Finally he spoke.

"Do you ever get the feeling that solving problems is really simple? I mean, sometimes my friends talk about some problem their having and I immediately come up with a plan to solve them. Mostly I don't say anything because..."

The companion looked at Karl and finished the sentence for him. "Because they just wouldn't understand. I understand Karl. Nobody really understands do they?"

Karl nodded and then quickly changed the subject, uncomfortable with the feelings and memories he was experiencing.

"So where's our next stop Lee?" he said, trying to sound chipper and optimistic.

"Well Karl, that's what I've been meaning to talk about with you. President Nixon needs our help on a piece of work in downtown Washington. We need to turn around and head east."

"OK Lee. But tell me something...How is it you know so much about me? It's almost like you know everything I've gone through in my whole life."

Atwater turned to look at the passing berms of sand and scrub. Eventually he spoke.

"Karl, I'll be honest. You may not remember me, but we went to the same doctors, the same labs, when we were children."

Karl tried in vain to hide his astonishment as he negotiated the U-turn and pointed the Pinto toward Washington, D.C. He started to speak, but Atwater cut him off.

"You're special Karl. The training has taught you much, but the program is not complete. I've been sent to teach you the things you'll need to begin your assignment..."

The Pinto moved steadily into the encroaching darkness, and Karl listened as his destiny was revealed.

Goodnight all.

Soylent Red

Oh, and apologies to c99 for bending reality a bit. Things will get serious again soon, but until then, remember.

It's just like badminton. It looks crazy as hell when you're not participating. But once you get into the game, it's a lot of fun.

Patton

Given Fitzgeralds position, how does he plan to show that Libby has a reason to lie, or more reason to lie then the reporters.

Reporters lie to maintain their sources all the time. The job requires constant lying.

What does he plan to claim was Libby's motive if not showing that he was outing a covert agent. Doesn't that require he show that the agent was covert???

Remember, he has to show Libbys lies were intentional, not just that they occurred.

Patton

Fitz says:
"""By this logic, the defense could ask for every document reflecting the fact that the CIA was an agency 'whose mission was to collect, produce, and disseminate intelligence,' every document reflecting that the President delivered his State of the Union address on January 28, 2003, and every document reflecting that Libby was employed at the White House at the relevant times."""""""

And if you indicted him for lying to the FBI about any of those three issues, wouldn't he be entitled to those documents??

And wouldn't you have to present evidence on those relevant facts?

Extraneus

"So where's our next stop Lee?"

Ha!

Patton

What if at trial, Fitz presents evidence
regarding Libby's conversation with Cooper, and then Libby's lawyer gets up and says:

Mr. Cooper, are you aware that 10 minutes before your call to Mr. Libby, Mr Libby has just received the Presidents Daily Brief which said an imminent Al Queda attack was believed to be planned in the next few days in the financial center in New York and thousands would die. Could you understand how Mr. Libby, having family members and friends working in those buildings might mis-remember your exact conversation about a
retired government employee taking a junket to Africa?

kim

What's more likely, a conspiracy to attack an obscure government bureaucrat or a conspiracy to attack the President?

Well, Fitz?
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mds

Jeez, it's amazing to me that Attorney General Ashcroft responded to the CIA's demands for an investigation of the outing of a covert operative by appointing such an incompetent Democratic hack as Mr. Fitzgerald. And at the behest of Deputy Comey, no less. Was he misled by Mr. Fitzgerald's apparent sterling record as a prosecutor? Was he deliberately sabotaging the investigation? Or...was he part of the conspiracy to attack the President? I think that after we indict Mr. Wilson for conspiracy, we need to move on to Mr. Ashcroft. And then everyone at the CIA who demanded the investigation to begin with.

RogerA

Has this become the waterhole for the Plame gate junkies? complete with wonderful Bulwer-Lytton take offs? You folks should be doing saturday nite live--you are fantastic!

kim

You highlight the curiosity of the whole endeavour, though I doubt you meant to do so.
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RogerA

Oops--sorry, late firing synapse--it happens when you are my age; but your commentary (well,at least some of it) always makes me think that a society that can poke fun at itself is one I want to live in. Beware societies that have no sense of humor! (no cartoons of the prophet were harmed in this post)

kim

I had a lot of dreams about how to build a society capable of destroying the effete urbanites. God knows its true.
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Specter

Top,

I'm and east coaster and I was upt posting til after midnight my time...But then, as things seemed to be slowing down I went to participate in one of my other vices - on-line gaming. Think I went to bed at about 12:30 am west coast time....

Florence Schmieg

So, Fitz has begun his defense of his failure in this case. Already trying out his excuses in the press this morning. All the fault of those nasty defense lawyers asking for classified information they aren't entitled to. Pathetic.

kim

J'accuse, sauf maintenant.
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clarice

J'Accuse is what I've been thinking of from the day I compared the press statement to the indictment.

Jim T.

Be serious....Is this not just like the B.S. position of CBS and Mary Mappes re. the forged Bush docs...i.e. "well, they havn't been proven false...so it's O.K. to run with it." (referring to Fitz's position)

topsecretk9

Top,

I'm and east coaster and I was upt posting til after midnight my time...But then, as things seemed to be slowing down I went to participate in one of my other vices - on-line gaming. Think I went to bed at about 12:30 am west coast time....

tsk, tsk...I hope you won.

p.lukasiak

on the issue of "relevance and materiality"....

Libby is not charged with lying because he said that "everybody knew" Plame was CIA...

he is charged with lying about how he knew about Plame, and what he told other reporters about how he knew.

It is thus immaterial if Bob Woodward knew unless Libby claims he heard about Plame from Woodward. Libby has not made that claim, and Woodward claims that he said under oath that he did not discuss Wilson's wife with Libby ---

Libby is entitled to information that is relevant and material to the CHARGES brought against him. That's all he is entitled to. What Bob Woodward knew is not material or relevant to the fact that Libby lied to the Grand Jury about how he found about "wilson's wife" --- the over 7 occassions in which he was told about or discussed with other people "wilson's wife" and her (very minor) role in Wilson's trip to Niger.

Libby lied about all of that, and nothing Bob Woodward knew or didn't know will change that fact.

kim

Jeff, it will only make logical sense to a jury, as it already has to Fitz and the judge, that his putative perjury obstructed. But obstructed what?

C, it is not difficult to find Dreyfussian parallels.
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kim

Oh, forgive me, p. luk., I thought I was talking to someone who almost never responds to me.
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