Did rain ruin your weekend? Blame Bush's environmental policies! Did your ball club lose? I'm not sure why that is Bush's fault, but I know it is.
Andrew Sullivan and David Schraub of The Moderate Voice both evidence Bush Derangement Syndrome with their coverage of police torture in Tennessee.
Let's go to Mr. Schraub first:
If we start torturing suspected terrorists, where do we stop? Suspected murderers? Robbers? Drug dealers?
Mr. Sullivan picks up the same story:
The five cops are now mercifully in jail, but only for, at most, seven years. I guess when the president has endorsed torture by the CIA, it's hard to put low-level cop-torturers in jail for life. Radley believes this kind of atrocity is more common than we might believe. I have no way to know. What I do know is that when the government launches an ill-defined "war" on a "thing", rather than an explicit foreign enemy, and when you have an administration as profoundly hostile to American liberty as this one is, all sorts of abuses will necessarily follow. And they have.
It's not clear from the context whether the "thing" upon which we have declared war is drugs (this was, after all, a drug dealer) or terror.
However - if Messrs. Sullivan and Schraub really believe that police brutality in this country began with the invasion of Iraq, or the opening of Gitmo, or the ascension of George Bush in 2000, let me just puzzle them with two names - Abner Louima and Rodney King.
'Nuff said. Now I have to go in the backyard and deal with the crabgrass that has been spreading like crazy ever since Bush personally outed Double Super Secret Agent Valerie Plame.
MORE: The first commenter at The Moderate Voice is even more skeptical than yours truly.
UPDATE: Andrew Sullivan responds.
I blame Bush for my bad hair day.
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 05:09 PM
Why are all these people playing the BLAME GAME.? Accept responsibility for your own actions and reactions. Only you have the power to be proactive and to change your life and circumstances.Go forth and Bush Blame no more!
Posted by: maryrose | April 25, 2006 at 05:20 PM
Bush made you say that, Maryrose. Admit it.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 25, 2006 at 05:31 PM
Take a public figure. Attribute all sorts of ill-defined and emotional evils to it. Then cut legal and moral corners to get after the devil.
Dangerous indeed.
Mr. Sullivan might have missed a story decribing perfectly the evil he eschews, preoccupied as he in Tennessee.
Ms. McCarthy leaked confidentital information because she was right, ethical, and guided by her own concscience. That's because Bushco is evil, the devil, and immoral for lying about the intelligence, outing a vital spy, and smearing a truth-teller.
Posted by: Chants | April 25, 2006 at 05:32 PM
I agree. Bush is not to blame for the general degeneration of the American character.
In this reespect he's simply a reflection of America's soul.
Posted by: Northern Observer | April 25, 2006 at 05:37 PM
I guess this means that come Jan. 2009 America will have no violence or evil or bad people doing bad things.
Posted by: Terrye | April 25, 2006 at 05:40 PM
Terrye,
Surely you jest. Of course we will. It will just still be Bush's fault.
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 05:43 PM
I agree. Bush is not to blame for the general degeneration of the American character.
Oh good, so we're all evil. That's much better, I thought it was just Bush.
<mind rays>We are not amused</mind rays>
<grovel>I meant no disrespect, Master . . . . oooohh, it burns . . . it burns . . .
Posted by: Cecil Turner | April 25, 2006 at 05:49 PM
Let's rename this thread:
I Blame Dems For:
OR
I Blame Liberals:
or
I blame Leftist For:
or
I Blame partisan blowhards for:
or I Blame CIA leakers FOR;
Posted by: maryrose | April 25, 2006 at 05:50 PM
Answers:
Being soft on terrorism
Having their heads up their behinds
Continuously lying about everything that matters and serving up excuses for their failings
Engaging in propaganda and false talking points to benefit themselves and no one else
Leaking classified information and endangering each and everyone of us and emboldening our enemies.
Posted by: maryrose | April 25, 2006 at 05:56 PM
TM Your crabgrass started when Bush was elected? Funny mine too. Amazing coincidence. Hey maybe we have uncovered a nefarious conspiracy here. How about it, lefties? Any crabgrass to report? The apttern is going to be soooooo obvious pretty soon...
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | April 25, 2006 at 06:05 PM
I blame Bush for not being the strong leader that Saddam was.
Schuster of Hardball would not have any chances to repeat:
"BUSH LEAKED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
FOR POLITICAL GAIN" again.
He'd probably be having a bit of problem writing it too.
If only it was possible to consider these as we would consider the homeless street corner ranter. But that would be insulting to the homeless street corner ranters who probably tell more truths than these guys.
Posted by: larwyn | April 25, 2006 at 06:13 PM
There's never a disaster anymore in America that can happen as an "Act of God." No, all disasters are, by default, an "Act of Bush." On the one hand, George Bush is, in the eyes of many, a stupid and utterly incompetent President. On the other, Bush has absolute power over the winds and the waves and is even now deploying a limitless army of spooks, spies, and repurposed Spetsnaz to listen in on every Americans' international calls to that transsexual phone sex bank in New Delhi.
Of course, Bush's personal relationship with Jesus Christ sent Christ to his death on the cross as well.
Posted by: Neo | April 25, 2006 at 06:21 PM
It happened in Tennessee! It goes all the way back to Lincolnhitlerhalliburton who led his hoards of neocon thugs into the pristine egalitarian paradise where Democrats were being really nice, especially to blacks, who they have always loved and cherished. Bush is just the latest incarnation of that evil.
Posted by: Lew Clark | April 25, 2006 at 06:24 PM
Sully is not just witless, but a hypocrite: as Taranto notes, Sully himself endorses torture
Posted by: beautifulatrocities | April 25, 2006 at 06:29 PM
Lew,
Have you ever seen the pictures of Rove and Lincoln together? It's odd to seem him leaning toward Lincoln's ear with his hand covering his mouth. At least in the pictures in gli Uffizzi where he is advising Lorenzo Medici his mouth is uncovered - they just seem to be leaning their heads toward each other. Perhaps it's the timeless quality of the masterpieces.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 25, 2006 at 06:30 PM
My BushHate compels me to admit I hate Bush
for only one reason; He is Bush.
TM; losing it a little, aren't yuh?
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 06:32 PM
Of course I blame Bush,I'm sitting here in this dank, dismal cave eating tinned goat and making home videos.Once I was a force to be reckoned with,now you make jokes,Osama bin Laid out,juvenile.
One day,if the cornedgoat lasts out the brutal Afghan winter...I shall return!!!
Posted by: Osama bin Laden | April 25, 2006 at 06:34 PM
"My BushHate compels me to admit I hate Bush
for only one reason; He is Bush.
TM; losing it a little, aren't yuh?"
Cement,read that again,rethink the phrase "losing it" in more personal terms.You're getting Larryitis kid.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 06:38 PM
Danke Schoen, Dumbya!
Liberal Larry would be proud to have ya'll
visit, take yer shoes off, rest fer awhile.
Why get bogged down in pessimism when you
can have the Happy Wanderer guide you
through life.
Blame Bush for everything is tantamount
to suggesting he has no responsibility for
anything substantive.
It's reverse projection.
You know, like BDS supposedly describing
antiBushites, whereas it's really the
BushEnablers who are deranged.
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 06:43 PM
Cement. I get it now. sarcasm like satire
requires a light touch. Your humor drops
through the floor, underklasmann
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 06:47 PM
Leo,
It must have been a pretty light touch if a mind of your incandescence took nine minutes to get it.
Posted by: Barney Frank | April 25, 2006 at 06:52 PM
"Cement. I get it now" Obviously slow setting cement.Never heard of "heavy sarcasm" Cement?
BTW keep your right arm down on this site,there is a distinct sound of heels clicking coming from your direction.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 06:53 PM
Cleo is Tom's latest sockpuppet. Because no one is really that stupid!
Posted by: Lew Clark | April 25, 2006 at 06:53 PM
Sean Penn blames Bush for his inability to quit smoking...Courtney Love blames the stress of Bush for junking up on too much heroin and hitting people/ODing, I am sure Charlie Sheen is equally Bush vexed...what will the rehabs do when he leaves office?
Today I am blaming my computer crash on Bush.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | April 25, 2006 at 06:54 PM
"Leo,
It must have been a pretty light touch if a mind of your incandescence took nine minutes to get it."
Barney,did you mean "adolescence"?
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 06:54 PM
Pete,
I was indulging in a little of that heavy sarcasm.
Posted by: Barney Frank | April 25, 2006 at 06:57 PM
He'll get it in minute or two.
Posted by: Barney Frank | April 25, 2006 at 06:58 PM
Barney,
If we keep this up,we will have to get a structural engineer in,the floor will have to be strengthened.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 06:58 PM
The song's already been written, but I could imagine Andy S. singing it:
I make a date for golf -
You can bet you life it rains.
I try to give a party -
And the guy upstairs complains.
I guess I'll go thru life;
Just catchin' colds and missin' trains,
Ev'rything happens to me [thanks to Bush].
I never miss a thing -
I've had measles and the mumps.
And ev'ry time I play my ace -
My partner always trumps.
I guess I'm just a fool;
Who never looks before he jumps,
Ev'rything happens to me [Because of W].
At first my heart tho't;
You could break this jinx for me.
That love would turn the trick;
To end my despair.
But now, I just can't fool;
This head that thinks for me.
I've mortgaged all my castles in the air.
I've telegraphed and called;
I sent "Air Mail Special", too;
You answer was goodbye -
And there was even postage due.
I fell in love just once;
And then it had to be with you,
Ev'rything happens to me [after Gore lost in Florida].
Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan | April 25, 2006 at 06:59 PM
took nine minutes to get it."
come on guys. I am pretty good at comebacks,
but give me something to work with here.
See if you can write as well as you think you
can think.
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:00 PM
"I am pretty good at comebacks..."
And you claim to be part of the 'reality based community'?
Posted by: Barney Frank | April 25, 2006 at 07:02 PM
How about a little HillaryHate? You know,
to balance all that BDS.
Has anyone heard how Hillary has been cooking Avian flu in her New York basement?
Is she going to release it the next time Condi is in NYC shooting for the Guinness Record for 'most shoes' now held by Imelda Marcos?
Sociopath that she is. Would she really cause the death of thousands of innocents to get just one person?
Would she put her party's political agenda before the safety and security of Americans?
How Loathesome and venal can a person be?
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:06 PM
"I am pretty good at comebacks..."
Good....then go away!
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 07:13 PM
"How Loathesome and venal can a person be?"
Do you want to take a shot at the title Cement?
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 07:15 PM
The reason I know the PedanticLion is antisocial is that the tone of comments roaring out of that enormous jaw are quite different from the tone that comes from regular JOM visitors.
A lack of empathy. None of those mimicry brain connections that allow someone to get a sense of tone and balance and effective communication within the target group.
Someone who when entering a room fails to look around to see who is there and what is being discussed, but instead whose ego compels them simply to be antagonistic with no care for persuasion.
Posted by: Syl | April 25, 2006 at 07:20 PM
Sociopath: there, you put your finger on it. Rules are for everyone but Hillary.
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 07:20 PM
Good....then go away!
Sorry, you guys need me for the duration
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:21 PM
Now I am confused...Sean Penn and Courtney Love should blame Hillary, not Bush?
Posted by: topsecretk9 | April 25, 2006 at 07:21 PM
Peter,
Watching you repeatedly kneecap a defenseless Leo has become kind of painful to watch. Either finish him off or let him go.
Posted by: Barney Frank | April 25, 2006 at 07:23 PM
Feet of cement, brain of clay.
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 07:26 PM
Watching you repeatedly kneecap a defenseless Leo has become kind of painful to watch. Either finish him off or let him go.
You guys shoot blanks. No teeth means
a diet of mashed potatoes and bananas for
ya'll
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:26 PM
The repository for all things the fault of Bush.
Posted by: Chris | April 25, 2006 at 07:26 PM
Need a hemorrhoid? What an odd thought. Well, if it will salve what passes for your mind....
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 25, 2006 at 07:28 PM
Syl,are you saying Cement is.....Hilary???
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 07:30 PM
*crickets*
Nothin' goin on north of the shoulder blades
here. But, keep tryin'. Quitters never
win.
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:30 PM
---Sorry, you guys need me for the duration---
Semantico you've ordained yourself
Posted by: topsecretk9 | April 25, 2006 at 07:30 PM
cleo,
I agree. Go away and come back in a month or two. We can then measure how good you are at it.
Posted by: Specter | April 25, 2006 at 07:30 PM
leo "You guys shoot blanks. No teeth means
a diet of mashed potatoes and bananas for
ya'll"
Do not mix metaphors while on drugs. This is your first warning.
Posted by: Sweetie | April 25, 2006 at 07:31 PM
Good thing I like mashed taters and nanas.
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 07:31 PM
The morning crew here is way more cerebral.
I guess after a hard's day work, you're all
pretty tuckered out.
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:32 PM
</selfparody>
Posted by: boris | April 25, 2006 at 07:33 PM
He admitted it: "Nothin goin on north of the shoulder blades...."
That's what we've all been tryin to tell you cleo.
Posted by: Specter | April 25, 2006 at 07:33 PM
Do you suppose he means our farts are worse than our fights?
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 07:33 PM
I saw a spokesperon for the CIA on television earlier repeating the claim that the person fired was fired for failing a polygraph and for disclosing classified information to a journalist (paraphrased). Seems the attorney for Mrs. McCarthy is spinning.
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 07:35 PM
"You guys shoot blanks. No teeth means
a diet of mashed potatoes and bananas for
ya'll"
This is a comeback? I've seen better comebacks from a dead squid.
Look Cement,you aren't fast and you ain't funny,stand up is way too hard for a bag of cement,don't give up your day job.
Leave your name and address in the bin on the way out.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 07:36 PM
All you've got is 'Nyah, Nyah, Ni Nah Nyah'?
take a nap. we'll try again tomorrow
Posted by: Semanticleo | April 25, 2006 at 07:36 PM
Let me go chat up Whomping Willow. Maybe we can whip up a microburst for shape shifting simba.
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 07:38 PM
I've long suspected that Bush has the "Force". That is how he got all those Senators to agree to vote to go to war to begin with.
Posted by: Specter | April 25, 2006 at 07:39 PM
I got a funny feeling he's not in Kansas anymore.
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 07:39 PM
--I've long suspected that Bush has the "Force". That is how he got all those Senators to agree to vote to go to war to begin with.--
Like Sean and Courtney...they are powerless...or scarecrows.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | April 25, 2006 at 07:41 PM
Got to play down to the audience Cement,if you are too dumb to take an insult.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 07:42 PM
Come on folks!
Din't ya'll go to skol?
Scientests and The NYT have proven thet science is proved when stuff happins and the NYT reports it.
Like it's hoter in the summer=Bush's globel warming. It's colder in the winter=Bush's global climate change. Big hole in lowr Manhatten=Arabs hate us, Bush's fault. Gas costs more=Bush's oil friends fault. Think aboutit. None a dis happen when Clinton was getin his jollies with Monica. Rightey? Gotta all be Bush's fault!
Thankyouverymuch....
Posted by: GordoM | April 25, 2006 at 07:42 PM
Sue
--Seems the attorney for Mrs. McCarthy is spinning.--, I think so too...otherwise they would be encouraging Dana Priest to come forward and confirm what Rand Beers and the lawyer said.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | April 25, 2006 at 07:43 PM
Well, my beloved Oakland A's did drop a couple of games to the Texas Rangers last week, and we all know who used to own the Rangers. So yes, I do blame Bush, because the personnel moves he made many years ago led to the situation where the Rangers have the players they have now, which led to them beating the A's. See how easy that is?
Posted by: Jaime Roberto | April 25, 2006 at 07:47 PM
Is McCarthy incapable of calling upon Priest to clarify all that passed between them? Hold a joint presser and clear the air?
I believe that the Ice Follies will be held in hell first but I might be wrong.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 25, 2006 at 07:51 PM
I blame Bush for PUCE
Puce doesn't much like the cops, either (scroll down).
Posted by: Lesley | April 25, 2006 at 07:53 PM
" How venal and loathesome can a person be?"
I assume we are talking about 46%{ I will never vote for her} Hillary again Well semanticleo; How many days do we have to discuss this? Because believe me I've got hundreds of absolutely true and appaling stories about your favorite candidate for 2008 presidential race. I'm going to predict 2 years out-She will NOT get the dem nomination. I don't care how much money she has she is DESPISED in the red states. She foolishly thinks everyone in the country is like her NYC syncophants. I loved the NASCAR race interviews when people were asked if they would vote for Hillary. Some actually started laughing at the question.
Posted by: maryrose | April 25, 2006 at 07:57 PM
“The law is often unclear, and where it is unclear, you must make a reasoned judgment about what the law should be,” Fitzgerald commented. In order to make that reasoned judgment, “you must find out the facts as accurately as possible.”
Fitzgerald later explained that all federal prosecutors should have a “sense of what motivates people” since they are “dealing with a lot of very human situations.”
http://www.regis-nyc.org/news.cfm?ID=156&NewsID=754&Type=Main
Pat tells the high schoolers of America about the rigors and psychology of interpretive law.
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | April 25, 2006 at 08:02 PM
I lost a filling while eating a bowl of popcorn -- if only Bush had gotten ethanol off to a faster start I'd not have been able to afford popcorn due to upward crop pricing and wouldn't now have to get my uninsured tooth fixed.
Come to think of it, I don't get why my citizenship doesn't come with free dental care, darn that Bush!
Posted by: Mark H. | April 25, 2006 at 08:05 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what this 'ya'll' that cementhead keeps using means. Is it possible that he really has no connection to rednecks and Southerners and is trying to say 'y'all'?
What does the contraction of 'll mean? In y'all, it's short for 'you all'. In 'y'all' I just don't know.
It looks suspiciously like an acquaintance of mine who periodically tries to fake both folksiness and bon homie, getting neither right.
Oh, NO!! Does this mean ol' concretehead is not kidding when he says "Nothin goin on north of the shoulder blades...." or is he just another fake?
Posted by: JorgXMcKie | April 25, 2006 at 08:06 PM
Remember who hired McCarthy. Nothing will be as simple as it seems. It depends on the definition of "leak". It depends on the definition of "classified". It depends on the definition of "prison".
I did not fail that lie detector test, it failed me.
That kind of thing.
Posted by: Terrye | April 25, 2006 at 08:09 PM
I'm pretty sure Mr Uk nailed it on the first pass. Soros is using that damn Myanamar factory for the chipsets again and we're stuck until the battery wears down. It won't be too bad because they stiff him on the batteries, too.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 25, 2006 at 08:16 PM
Mr Ballard,
Yes, this one has the Tedium III processor with a high capacity monotony circuit.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 08:34 PM
I did not fail that lie detector test, it failed me.
Sounds like Kerry.
Kerry's comments about "speaking the truth" mitigating the public response. You know, that's just how I felt about those Swift Boat guys.
Posted by: Neo | April 25, 2006 at 08:38 PM
Jorg,
Fake,does Harry Reid knit his own hair? ya'll could be a contraction for you will,but in this context is gibberish..but we already knew that.
Yes that faux folksy has a familiar smell to it.
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 08:40 PM
BUSH DID MAKE THEM DO IT - CIA!
from TigerHawk
Tigerhawk speculates "What is Saddam and OBL were CIA assets?
.....So - most analysts across the political spectrum ought to be able to agree -- the CIA FAILED IN ITS MISSION WITH RESPECT TO AL QAEDA AND IRAQ. This bit is not speculation, merely opinion. The next bit is pure speculation.
What if Bin Laden and Saddam were both CIA "assets"? Creations developed by the US intelligence community to fight another war? It's not really a huge leap to draw this conclusion. Is there such as thing as a "former asset?" Or just a dead one? Osama certainly played his part helping to undermine the USSR in Afghanistan. The US certainly armed the jihadists in Pakistan and Afghanistan of which Osama became a key leader. Similarly, Saddam was aided by the US in his war with Iran. He was supported overtly by France during the height of the Cold War, to the extent that his run for the nuclear roses was humorously called O-chirac (rather than Osirak).
That might help further explain a certain bureaucratic tenacity against the current administration. I mean, let's face it. The CIA owns the 9/11 failure. Nobody has really rubbed their noses in it, but they should. You could argue that the administration, the press and other government bureaucracies might have been well served to drag the CIA through the mud on it. They didn't, and as a consequence the owners of this failure lived to wage a bureaucratic jihad against the administration, aided and abetted by (of all things) the liberal press. Think about it, every one of these so-called experts -- Scheuer, Clarke, Wilson, Plame, McCarthy -- these are the clowns on the watch as Osama grew in power, grew his network, and ultimately wreaked havoc on the US. They are losers, failures, jokers -- each one. But further -- did they have an allegiance, a stake in preserving the status quo in Iraq, in the Middle East more broadly, in keeping alive the Islamic jihad? If so, why? Can Porter Goss clean this mess up, or will the bureaucratic losers try to consume him in the same way the military bureaucrats are going after Rumsfeld? And with the MSM's help to boot.
Not at all an illogical speculation, actually more logical than people risking their
jobs due to BDS. They are trying to protect their jobs and reputations that would
be at very high risk if this is true.
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This also ties into the except from the Taranto email today:
"Reader Scott Wright points out this intriguing passage in the Washington Post's Saturday story about Mary McCarthy, the CIA officer fired over alleged press leaks:"
A former intelligence official, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the issue, said he knew of CIA officials who had refused to attend meetings related to the rendition--or capture and transfer--of suspected terrorists, because of opposition or anxiety about the legality of the practice. "****They believe that if one chamber of Congress goes to the other party, there will be investigations, and those involved could be impoverished by legal fees***."
HERE'S TARANTO:
"This suggests that the interests of Bush foes within the CIA might have diverged, at least for this election cycle, from those of Democrats more broadly. The former, of course, would have loved to see John Kerry* in the White House, for his policies would have been similar to those of the reactionary CIA officers.
But do the CIA reactionaries want a Democratic Congress for the last two years of the administration? Do they want their own agency to become the focus of an Iran-contra-style fight between scandal-hungry, subpoena-wielding Dems and an administration that will be out in less than two years anyway?".....Taranto
****What if that is just "CIA Smoke and Mirrors" and they are really worried
about jobs/legal fees based on Tigerhawks speculation?
Posted by: larwyn | April 25, 2006 at 08:42 PM
I popped in here to read about the right wing view on the McCarthy firing. Mind you, I don't support CIA leaking in anyway, but the twisted logic I'm reading.....Okay, you leak, you risk firing. Fair enough.
"Blaming" Bush for everything is an idiotic concept. Same as "Blaming" Clinton for everything is and was. This is no different than what Republicans do everyday. Hell, Hannity is still fixated on the Clintons.
Personally, I despise Bush and nearly everything his administration has done, so yeah. I'm going to blame Bush for a hellava lot, but there are certainly things beyond his control. The problem is that Bush manages to make things that aren't his fault worse. Education - let's try NCLB. Bush cuts funding. Katrina - horrible natural catastrophe so let's help them rebuild. Bush then completely drops the ball and underfunds and allows labor laws to be bypassed. Iraq - go after WMD, terrorists, regime change (reasons have shifted over time). Bush's administration under deploys, ignores postwar estimates and plans, stiffs soldiers on body and humvee armor, ignores the Geneva Convention, lets Halliburton rip off our soldiers and the taxpayers, and have created a giant sinkhole that we keep throwing our soldiers and money into and achieving nothing. Meanwhile, Afghanistan, where we actuually had a real chance to make a difference, is underfunded and experiencing a renewed Taliban.
I'll blame Dems, I'll blame Repubs, but when are righties going to hold Bush accountable for screwing up so much and for eroding the rights and traditions that our country is known for. We've got soldiers fighting and dying in a civil war, and Bush keeps trying to cut the VA budget. If that isn't enough to get the right wing pissed, I don't know what is. Wake up, Repubs!!!
Posted by: Demelia | April 25, 2006 at 08:49 PM
Wow Demelia, thanks ! Now I understand EVERYTHING. It's all so clear now.
You must be a genius!
Posted by: boris | April 25, 2006 at 08:55 PM
Demelia:
Not to oversimplify things but many of us (if I can speak for those on my side) view Bush as more "sinned against than sinner", if you will, and believe that the alternatives offered up by your side are far far worse (that is, when your side is able to muster up something beside criticisms of Bush).
What exactly does your side wish to do or any substantive issue?
As to holding him accountable, I'm not sure what you want us to do. His public opinion approval ratings are about 30% or so. A good chunk of those not liking his policies are certainly on the Republican/Right. And if you visit conservative/right blogs, you'll quickly see a number of posts criticizing the Administration on a variety of issues.
We also recognize at the same time that we're at war. We've got a dangerous and fanatical enemy running Iran and we still have the problem of radical Islam elsewhere trying to capture the hearts and minds of the Muslim world.
So, if our criticisms are a bit muted, it's because we see that there are greater dangers in the world than the failures coming from this current administration.
And to blunt, the "Halliburton-is-ripping off-our-soldiers" line is the type of hooey that we on the right get tired of.
SMG
Posted by: SteveMG | April 25, 2006 at 09:09 PM
I'll blame Dems, I'll blame Repubs, but when are righties going to hold Bush accountable for screwing up so much and for eroding the rights and traditions that our country is known for.
Have you noticed the poll numbers? That number indicates to me that righties are holding him accountable. Probably not for what you would like for us to hold him accountable, but we do hold him accountable.
And just so I'm clear, what rights and traditions are you referring to?
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 09:12 PM
The America SAD DENIAL Case
Your war against Fear is not justified. It is actually a Resource War for oil, and a currency war for the dollar. Global Oil production has peaked and US will suffer the most from this crisis. The United States uses 25% of the world’s oil yet only has 5% of the world’s population. America is heavily in debt and bankruptcy is unavoidable. The coming housing bust will send the economy into a second greater depression.
While the Middle East countries find themselves targets in the "war on terror", China, Russia, and Latin America find themselves targets in the recently declared and much more expansive "war on tyranny." Whereas the "war on terror" is really a war for control of the world's oil reserves, this newly declared "war on tyranny" is really a war for control of the world's oil distribution and transportation chokepoints.
The dollar is in collapse, the economy is going to crash, oil is getting more scarce everyday. America is a nation that has its infrastructure built exclusively to be run on abundant cheap oil, with global demand of oil increasing exponentially and supply decreasing year after year, America has no other choice than to wage a global war on oil and currency and under the ruse of terror and freedom.
What? No believe? You still denial??
Is your entire country on crack? Are all you Americans out of your cotton picking minds? Are you completely freaking delusional? Homicidal? Psychotic? Have you lost any shred of a moral compass? WHAT IN THE NAME OF JESUS H. CHRIST ON A CRUTCH IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!
Let me offer up one small datum which may completely change the equation for you: According to the CIA (If they have any credibility left.) even accord to them Iran is at least five years away from a nuclear weapon.
Five years.
Five years is time for diplomacy to accomplish a hell of a lot.
I would also point out that the Atomic Energy Commission, various other international bodies and other inspections have essentially found no sign that Iran is even working on a nuclear weapon.
The only actual evidence that Iran has anything close to nuclear weapons technology is blueprints *that the CIA gave to them!*
Have you all forgotten that the evidence on Iraq was spectacularly wrong? Have you all ignored the fact that it was fabricated? Why then are we going down the exact same road of stage managed, fabricated pseudo-evidence and wild-ass hysteria?
What is wrong with you people?
This entire crisis has been manufactured, and has been years in the making.
Stop and think back five years. What did we have five years ago? A moderate reformist Iranian government making overtures to the United States, rebuilding its relationship with Europe, liberalizing its society, and modernizing its economy.
Post 9/11 vigil in Iran. 9/11 comes along, the Iranians are overflowing with sympathy. Mass candlelit vigils are held in Tehran. Iran offers aid and cooperation.
Iran hates the Taliban who have executed Iranian diplomats and massacred Afghan Shiites. Iran hates Saddam Hussein. Iran hates Al Qaeda which is a Sunni Fundamentalist organization which declares Shiites infidels and subhuman.
Iran shares its intelligence with America - they even arrested Taliban members and handed them over to US custody.
So we've got the Iranian spring; things are finally going to sort out.
And what happens? The Bush administration rebuffs every Iranian overture and does its best to instigate a cold war. Afghanistan is invaded, and suddenly, the Iranians are looking at American troops and allies on their eastern border. Then Iraq is invaded, and American troops and allies on their western border. Then bases and treaties in Uzbekistan, and whoops, there's more American troops and allies on the northern border. The Persian Gulf is filled with American warships and carrier fleets.
Now the Iranians are surrounded. And the tough talk is constant. Iran is part of the 'Axis of Evil' and Americans tell each other "Baghdad, humph, real men go to Tehran." Essentially, America has been threatening military action against Iran for the last five years, and has surrounded the country on every side with troops, bases and allies.
American aircraft invade Iranian airspace regularly, American special forces undertake operations inside Iran and Americans regularly accuse Iranians of interference in Iraq.
Dick Cheney pontificates about Israel bombing Iran *after he has just handed over to Israel the long range bombers and bunker busting bombs* required to do the job.
Meanwhile, the United States undertakes economic warfare against Iran, interfering with its business dealings with third party countries, trying to scuttle a pipeline deal with India, and it goes on and on. The hysteria about the Iranians nuclear program is just more of the same.
Now how in God's Bloody Name do you think the Iranians are going to respond to that. Should they concede the nuclear program, abandon their pipeline project? If so, its not going to do them any good. America will just seek more concessions. Each surrender will be met by new demands. This isn't hard to figure out. It's exactly what Bush did with Iraq.
Perhaps overtures, good will gestures, trying to act like a peaceful nation. Did all those things, doesn't matter. The Bush administration is still on a collision course.
So, the Mullahs are concerned that they're faced with a homicidal crazy state, the Iranian people are scared. When people are scared and faced with an aggressive warmongering power which keeps threatening to attack them, continually trespasses on its borders and is undertaking economic warfare... who the hell are they going to elect? Ahminajad may be a crazy bastard, but you assholes, you utter assholes did every thing you could to elect him short of donating 50,000 Diebold machines and mailing his party the trapdoor codes.
So, having pursued a psychotically aggressive course, you've backed Iran into a corner, and engineered a regime which refuses to back further.
And *you* are the victims in all this? *You* are the ones under threat? It's *self defense*????
And of course, you goofily believe that you can just bomb or nuke Iran with impunity?
Holy microeconomic theory batman! Iran's nuclear facilities are distributed across the country and in hardened sites near population centers. So any strike that cripples a significant portion of Iran's nuclear capacity will inevitably be so large and kill so many people that its going to be tantamount to inviting full scale war.
Think about that. Iran is 70 million people, an area five times the size of Iraq, not disemboweled by 12 years of sanctions and air raids. On the other side of the coin, America's ground army is busted and tied down in Iraq. There's no troops to throw at a major Iranian military force, so you have to hope that bombing will do the trick. The occupation forces in Iraq are in occupation and not territorial defense mode. And Iraq is 65% Shiites who are probably not going to be happy that you're blowing up their brother Shiites.
Meanwhile, the Strait of Hormuz is so narrow that sinking one supertanker will block it indefinitely, and Iran borders the strait on three sides. Block Hormuz and any naval groups inside the Persian Gulf are trapped there. Any naval groups outside the Persian Gulf are trapped outside. Forget about any oil coming out of the Persian Gulf from Iraq, Kuwait, Quatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or the UAE. Think about what that does to the price of oil, and to the world economy. Think about what that does to dependent countries like Japan, India, China and Europe.
In short it’s so appallingly stupid and colossally risky, that I can see why your idiots in charge might consider using nuclear weapons. But throw a few nukes around and see how the rest of the world reacts? Every dirt-wad country is going to be mortgaging the Presidential palace to get its own nuclear deterrent from Pakistan or North Korea. How do you feel about the Indonesian Bomb, the Malaysian Bomb, the Thai Bomb, the Myanmar Bomb, the Algerian Bomb, the Saudi Bomb, the Egyptian Bomb, the Brazilian Bomb, the Argentine Bomb, the Venezuelan Bomb, the Cuban Bomb, the Japanese Bomb, the Canadian frigging Bomb. You are no longer trustworthy. North Korea, always borderline psychotic is going to be mondo difficult to deal with. You've just guaranteed yourself a full fledged nuclear arms race, balls to the wall with both Russia and China, and quite possibly Europe.
And of course there's no guarantee that the rest of the world will allow this. Do you want an armed standoff with the Russians? Suppose they 'loan' their finest interceptor jets, pilots and radar systems to the Iranians... Do you want to meet *that* on a bombing raid? And if you do meet *that* what are you going to do when half your planes are blasted out of the skies conducting an illegal raid on civilian populations in a foreign country? Cry? Send a harsh note?
Launch a first strike?
World goes boom. What happens if the Chinese decide to hold Taiwan and South Korea hostage? What do you do? Back off Iran or sell out East Asia?
Hell, in that kind of standoff, someone sneezes and its not going to matter who launched a first strike.
Or would you like an economic standoff, say with Europe, or with Japan and China. Suppose that the Europeans or Chinese decide "screw the worldwide depression, you assholes are just too dangerous to have around." Trillions of dollars get dumped on the market, loans get called in, the bottom drops out of your dollar, its thousand per cent inflation and no manufacturing base and your own trade embargoes. So much for America.
I mean, it’s morally wrong; it’s stupid on every level. And yet here you are discussing why maybe you should get out in front of the Republicans on this, or planning your surrender to Bush. Why are you even discussing this?
What is wrong with America?
Case in Iraq:
Anyone here still remember the scam of Al Samoud 2?
I totally forgot about it until today when I read that Iran has enriched a supply of uranium for the first time and Iran's president has said Iran won't back down ``one iota'' over its nuclear program.
Remember when Saddam backed down? Its been so long even MY memory's
been washed by Washington, but before the WMB bullshit we were hearing ranting and trash from Bush that it was because of Iraq's Al Samoud 2 missiles had 10 miles extra range than allowed by the UN [funny how US itself never follows UN regulations] that the US was going to attack Iraq. Al Samoud 2 was a big issue for a while, and Bush gave Saddam an ultimatum of a week or so to disarm and destroy all 90 some missiles or else the US EVIL EMPIRE was going to attack....
what happened?
Saddam disarmed all missiles.
and then...
US Charged in with Guns a Blazing....
SHOOT FIRST THEN ASK questions torture...
Quick Draw Trigger Happy Cheney saying GO FUCK YOURSELF to the world.
The point is, North Korea, Iran and indeed the rest of the world saw this and learn from Iraq's lesson. When dealing with EVIL like the US WHEEL OF EVIL EMPIRE there is no use in disarming your own weapons!!!!
Any country that still does that is PLAIN STUPID!!! LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO IRAQ!!!!
The Native Americans was too slow to learn the lesson, Iraq was too dumb to learn the lesson. Lets hope Iran does a pre-emptive strike FIRST this time and give Shrub a taste of his own medicine!!!
Now, to be fair I realize most Americans do not take lightly to criticism. But what about reason? Logic? Or plain common sense?
You seem to agree with the doctrine of pre-emptive strike correct? You say that if you know your enemy will attack you anyway, that it is your duty and obligation to attack them first to prevent damage to yourself.
So when I that Iran should attack America’s military and not wait until it is first attacked upon, what then do you have to object? I am simply praticing YOUR DOCTRINE OF PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE. If an enemy [the US in this case], will attack you anyway, (like how America will attack Iran, and how US with its proven track record DID attack Iraq) it is then Iran's duty and obligation to pre-emptive the pre-emptive strike. America has proven TIME AND TIME AGAIN that is PRACTICES THE DOCTRINE OF STRIKING FIRST, so why the hell should other nations not do the same? If I know a bully in my neighboorhood already took out 5 of my neighboors why the hell should I not practice what he does and take HIM out first?
So if you [US] can do it, why can no other country practice the same thing?
Let us not forget one of your major characteristics: your duality in both manners and values; your hypocrisy in manners and principles. All*manners, principles and values have two scales: one for you and one for the others.
Your war against Fear is not justified. It is actually a Resource War for oil, and a currency war for the dollar. Global Oil production has peaked and US will suffer the most from this crisis. The United States uses 25% of the world’s oil yet only has 5% of the world’s population. America is heavily in debt and bankruptcy is unavoidable. The coming housing bust will send the economy into a second greater depression.
While the Middle East countries find themselves targets in the "war on terror", China, Russia, and Latin America find themselves targets in the recently declared and much more expansive "war on tyranny." Whereas the "war on terror" is really a war for control of the world's oil reserves, this newly declared "war on tyranny" is really a war for control of the world's oil distribution and transportation chokepoints.
The dollar is in collapse, the economy is going to crash, oil is getting more scarce everyday. America is a nation that has its infrastructure built exclusively to be run on abundant cheap oil, with global demand of oil increasing exponentially and supply decreasing year after year, America has no other choice than to wage a global war on oil and currency and under the ruse of terror and freedom.
What? No believe? You still denial??
Don’t forget what horrible unspeakable atrocities your nation did to the Native Americans who were here before them.
America is not a legitimate nation. It is a British renegade colony that should have been repatriated. The Evil Colony of America and the Evil Treacherous George Washington General Coward betrayed his own England and set up this Avarice Nation. The Evil American Colony sent a bitching letter to King George and in essence said they were tired of paying their fair share of the taxes, but used the ruse of ‘taxation without representation’ as a pitiful pathetic excuse to cheat the motherland of resources.
This is true beginning of the EVIL AVARICE NATION that you so ardently defend.
This nation later went on and killed all the Native Americans. This is the Evil nation that usurped land from the French and called it a so called “Louisiana Purchase”. That’s like me going to the BMW car dealership and driving off with the latest 760Li and paying only 15 cents. That’s a ‘purchase’ all right… Do I need to remind you America Robbed Texas from Mexico? And then the Evil wasn’t satisfied so it did a pre-industrial version of Operation Northwood’s and then went down to the capital of Mexico and forced the Pres. Of Mexico to give away all the rest of the West to the US Wheel-Of-Evil Empire.
Any nation that steals so VAST amount of virgin LAND, Territory, resources, will of course attract talent like light attracts flies. This is Darwinism in action here. Greediest of the Greediest people of the world immigrate the America. These Avaricious lovers of Lust and Evil procreate and mingle with other fellow most-greedy-of-the-earth evil lovers and pretty soon of a few short generations you have most avaricious, self-serving, underhanded, egoistic, hypocritical, lustful, greedy SOBs in the entire universe.
Nothing America has belonged to America. Nothing Americans have achieved was because of America itself. This country is one big party of a free ride that runs on the rape, murder, torture, usurping, robbery, thievery, hijacking, empirizing, conquering,
Of other peaceful innocent nations. It has never done anything good for anyone except itself own selfish pig citizens.
And it would be extremely hypocritical of you to say well that’s all in the past. It was not that long ago when you mass murdered the Native Americans. Why are you charging Saddam for a crime no did not commit over 30 years ago??
You still in denial?
Your country uses extremist Muslim religions as an excuse to fight them for oil. You have been thoroughly brainwashed if you believe what you have been told.
Always remember this, the Arabs are NOT the ones in our land attacking and bombing our children, destroying our homes and robbing our resources. The Arabs are not the ones with Gigantic Military Killing Machines that are targeting our homeland, bulldozing our buildings, knocking down our Statue of Liberty. They do not have soldiers occupying our land (technically not even our land), raping American woman or cutting off the balls of American men. Sure they did 9/11, but 9/11 was but a drop in the bucket compared to what the US did to them. 9/11 was the act of a few terrorists, that cannot be compared to the prolonged repeated conquering, occupy, exploiting, and repressing of entire nations at the thumb and whip of the US Wheel-of-Evil Empire.
They are not the ones imposing economical sanctions on our nation, starving our children and weakening our population. They are not the ones who have Mac Mansions and drive luxury SUV’s and have Comcast internetS and living the grandiose life at the expense of poor third world nations of the entire world.
Imagine if such things happened to America? Unimaginable..
Think about that..
The pitiful thing is they can’t even get a fair revenge..
Are you beginning to see the imbalance?
What freedom do we really have? Do you think the citizens of America could find a ‘basis of negotiation’ with the Big Corporations of America? or with its current government? Americans yell and scream freedom down the throats of other people, but they fail to see they themselves are the least free of all. Their addiction to oil and free shopping spree and lustful desires has not only enslaved themselves, but held captive are also the innocent citizens and youth of Middle Eastern nations and countless other countries across the world. They are so morally and fiscally deprived that they have dragged the chains of slavery unto the entire world. Is this anyone’s idea of a model of ‘freedom’? America's freedom and happiness directly comes from the expense of others, depriving them of their fair share of ‘freedom’, and yet these US hypocrites turn around and decree other nations need to be further ‘liberated’ to perpetuate their American Entitlement.
Do not for a second confuse standard of living for freedom, especially when you realize America’s high standard of living comes directly from the expense of those already much less fortunate.
I’m sure some Americans will do anything to defend the name of their country and their lifestyle, despite all facts to the contrary. Is that not as powerful or perhaps more powerful than Middle Eastern religious zeal? Too bad for the Middle Eastern religious nuts who don't know this, but in this world those with big weapons & Advanced Killing Machines ALWAYS WIN.. The existence of American in this universe proves that there is no justice and fairness in this world, and also that there cannot possibly be any ‘God’, for no God would be so cruel. Foolish Muslims….
It is not so bold an assertion nor an exaggeration to make to say that America is the single greatest threat to humanity. And the Greatest Disgrace and disservice to all life forms on earth.
What? You still in denial?
You can argue all you want. But who's better off? The American people or the people of nations it attacks?
Who sends their kids to private schools, piano lessons, soccer games, football games, to cheerleading tryouts, to UIL's??
American has manipulated global markets and currency in the past to pay of its massive debt, and then when the third world suffers directly because of its actions it gives a tiny little aid and call it a great humanitarian effort.
It's comparable to robbing a bank and giving back the spare change in your pocket. Its an PR act, you should see it for what it really is.
I'll bet anything that the Iraq people would much RATHER fix our national highways, if it means there citizens could live OUR lifestyle..
My question to you American's : would you switch places with the third world that you terrorize? if you can't say yes, then stop bitching.
Put your money where your mouth is you hypocrites.
Still no believe??
Metaphorically speaking, you and others like you are the type of people who would complain that handicap parking spaces are unfair because that means you have to walk furthur, or that its unfair that the homeless doesn't have to pay any taxes. But let me assure you that the handicapped would much rather have their HEALTH back than a handicap placard, and the homeless would much rather have a roof over their heads, a nice warm cozy bed with a family and kids and take vacations to exotic places twice a year and would be MORE THAN HAPPY to pay those taxes that you would so despise.
The point is, the grass is NOT always greener on the other side, certaintly not when the 'other side' is someplace in the Middle East.
Bottomline: who has benefited because of America's actions over the last two hundred years? Certaintly not the Native Americans.....
Something to think about ya know...
I should point out to you that terrorism is actually a war tactic.
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorists. If you apply
the strict definition of 'terrorism' and not that of the FOX 4 version, you would see that America sends their own 'terrorists' to foreign lands much more than the number of terrorists who have come here to attack the U.S.
Terrorism is much like asymmetric warfare. It is a tactic deployed by the weak against the strong. That fact in and of itself should answer your question as to why 'terrorists' don't rebuild power plants, schools and water systems...
If they had that ability, they would not need to resort to terrorism in the first place. And let it also be known that America is not doing such great services for the benefit of the Iraqi people but only for its own long term self interest and political agenda of worldwide domination.
Believing in anything else would be like a kid accepting a ride from a stranger for the benefit of the candy bar. He's giving me candy so he must have my best intentions at heart, right??
And please don’t use a religious excuse ever again.
religion is not the main issue here. Religion is NOT why we [US Army] are in Iraq. Religion is NOT why we will be in Iran. Religion is NOT why we were in Korea, or Vietnam, and its also not why we nuke Japan twice even though they were prepared to surrender.
When America fights China over oil and resources the U.S. will have to come up with something else besides 'religion' to explain away their addiction of usurping. I wonder to myself if the only the Native Indian Americans were Christians to begin with they might not have suffered their ultimate fate??? hmmm....
Religion is really not even the issue here at all. Your missing the real point. We [U.S.] are like the drug dealers who got these poor people into this hellhole and mess in the first place, and then we blame them for their condition. Wake up America! If you don't, [and I know you won't] peak oil will be your alarm clock that you can't shut off.
Still no believe?
Maybe you say since I live in American I should just shut up and stop complaining. Well, I have but this to say to you:
again, your argument that just because I live here in America I should shut up and stop complaining is [b]hypocritical.
When the Chinese government tells its own people the same thing, somehow the US WHEEL OF HYPOCRISY will intervene and starting bitching at Hu for not giving enough 'civil right' to the Chinese people.
Since when did the US GOV care about Chinese people? Last time I checked they very bitched about the trade imbalance and China’s growing oil demands. If they [US] are caring they sure as hell aren’t showing it by their actions.
You still denial?
Have you heard of Operation Northwood’s? If not I encourage you to do some research of it online or at a library. America Northwood’s was America’s EVIL PLAN to bomb and murder it own citizens and frame it on foreign nations in order to get ‘justification’ for an unpopular war. And this is just what is make public, your government is clearly capable of doing must more evil considering all the secret classified documents of plans such as Operation Northwoods that will never be make public.
And for those of you not in the know, there is ample irresputable evident that on 9/11 World Trade Center Building 7 was bombed by your own US Government. WTC 7 collapsed in a precisely vertical fashion. First, no building collapses exactly vertically unless it was engineered and rigged to do so. Second, WTC was a steel building. And no steel building has ever collapsed due to minimal fire. What is the motive you ask? Your EVIL EMPIRE propaganda machine loves drama. Americans citizens are the mob, and George Walker Commodus will use fear and drama to feeds American’s people to the lions (CEO Government, Big Business, Military-Industrial Complex) and you will THANK HIM FOR IT.
Isn’t that what you are doing now?
What, still denial?
Then let me give you this cool movie clip, perhaps it can enlighten you of reality.
http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC
Best,
Bo Chen
Posted by: Bo | April 25, 2006 at 09:13 PM
Andrew is hacking, and quite effectively. It looks like a change in ideology, but I doubt it.
He's a professional writer and a damn good one. Hacks move seamlessly from cause to cause--except when it's personal. Andrew hides cleverly and skillfully behind past conservative hackery to justify his clear jolt left. But he's no leftist.
Andrew is fighting for gay rights. Period. The rest is bullshit. He'll fight as a conservative, a neocon, a New Republicer, a Catholic, a Bushie, a McCainiac--what have I left out.
He's a serious cultural force, and I admire a man who knows what he wants, but I completely disregard his politics--what ever the flavor.
And I admit that it's ridiculous for an anonymous internet poster to make such sweeping claims.
Posted by: Old Dad | April 25, 2006 at 09:14 PM
Heh. There's a rich irony about Bush having to take credit for the price of gas--arguably the one thing he ISN'T responsible for--after failing to get blamed for the manifold lies, crimes, and blunders he HAS committed.
Put another way, for ONCE a buck has stopped with Bush. It may be the first time in his life.
Posted by: Jeff | April 25, 2006 at 09:14 PM
Holy Moley...someone wrote a book...
Posted by: Sue | April 25, 2006 at 09:17 PM
Bush-hate is often a convenient veil for anti-Americanism, as countries that have a favorable view of America also tend to have a favorable view of Bush (the person Americans elected), and vice versa.
Posted by: Tudalu | April 25, 2006 at 09:19 PM
Bush's administration under deploys, ignores postwar estimates and plans, stiffs soldiers on body and humvee armor, ignores the Geneva Convention . . .
Demelia, unless you can proffer an improved deployment plan, explain why today's body armor (which is significantly better than the stuff I wore in GW I, and far better than anything imagined in VN) is inadequate, or cite pertinent Geneva Convention violations, I'm gonna assume you're talkin' out yer a**. Sorry, but there's a lot of that goin' around.
And for those of you not in the know, there is ample irresputable evident that on 9/11 World Trade Center Building 7 was bombed by your own US Government.
Never mind, Demelia. (In fact, you're starting to look downright sensible.)
Posted by: Cecil Turner | April 25, 2006 at 09:20 PM
Could you retype that Bo? It came thru a little garbled.
Posted by: Specter | April 25, 2006 at 09:20 PM
Andrew is hacking, and quite effectively. It looks like a change in ideology, but I doubt it.
While I think that's largely true - i.e., that he grabs any "stick" handy to win an argument even if he previously denounced that "stick" a week earlier, I think he also enjoys stirring things up for the sake of an argument. He clearly is not shy about addressing any issue, at any time.
I exchanged posts with Andrew about a year ago where he acknowledged that he likes "robust debates" and that he also enjoys (my words) shaking things up. All pedal, no brake.
It's interesting to contrast his longer more professional pieces with his shorter blog "burps." Quite a contrast even though the two forms are prone to such distinctions.
SMG
Posted by: SteveMG | April 25, 2006 at 09:23 PM
Bo,
You have convinced me.
Please send me your regular newsletter.
Kthx
Posted by: Steve in Houston | April 25, 2006 at 09:24 PM
"The dollar is in collapse.."
No, it's not, it's been quite steady. Oh, I see! The other eighty million words are also incorrect. Good one!
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | April 25, 2006 at 09:29 PM
I guess according to Bo it was all downhill after Washington.
Or more accurately, when Washington came along?
Or something.
Geez, the worst thing is that this guy's vote cancels out mine.
Or maybe I can look at it as my voting cancelling his out.
Whew. That's a relief.
SMG
Posted by: SteveMG | April 25, 2006 at 09:32 PM
For supposedly the most powerful man on the planet, the president doesn't seem to have very much real power. He can't fire anybody except the people he doesn't want to. He can't keep anything secret. The media all despise and abuse him, and now our allies don't trust him. The Congress are running around like scared chickens, and he can't get any bills passed even when everyone agrees they're needed. He goes out of his way to avoid personal conflicts and all he gets is abuse and criticism for not responding in kind.
Why does anybody expect him to be able to prevent stuff like this? When has he ever said that he approved of shocking people through their testicles? And, if he did, why should we think anybody would listen to him.
Like he said yesterday when somebody asked him if he knew any illegal aliens, "I don't think so. I don't think I've hired any, or you would have read about it in the news."
Posted by: AST | April 25, 2006 at 09:42 PM
Hey, wait a minute, I thought it was China that was slurping up every spare barrel of oil not nailed down elsewhere. If he could just internalize a little of that disdain he could be a modern American liberal.
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 09:43 PM
Bo,could you run that past me again?
Posted by: PeterUK | April 25, 2006 at 09:43 PM
That is funny AST. Do you suppose he's a little amused at how hysterical the press is?
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Posted by: kim | April 25, 2006 at 09:46 PM
"Demelia"
I thought, hey, maybe she mispelled
"dementia"
L instead of an NT.
Could a Dvorak vs. QWERTY layout explain this due to the proximate association of the "L" with the "NT" characters?
Inquiring minds want to know, because REALLY strange people use Dvorak keyboards.
Typos rule.
But, naw, Boris has it right.
She IS a genius. They don't make typos.
If I WAS a Repub, I'd appreciate the wakeup call. But no, I'm just a lonely conservative hiding under the covers, and afraid, deathly afraid, as Bush ruins the country, and the world. I'm awaiting the knock on the door, and the train ride to the $3.25 a gallon gas chamber, because I'm about to speak out against him.
I'm emailing all my Pach friends now.
WAKE UP ! ! !
Bush has lifted your tail,
and HE is kicking your big fat and gray asses.
HEEELLLLPPP MEEEE ! ! ! !
They're coming. I know it. Soon now. VERY Soon.
Might be fun though. I kinda get off on those black uniforms with a bit of white insignia, and those round hats with the high front and the black leather visor thingy. Have they brought back those dual lightning flashes. They kinda give me a "semi" just thinking about being alone in a room with just "the boys" and a single "Hard" light bulb.
Naw, I think I'll stick with women.
Why ruin a lifetime habit ?
Posted by: Dan P. | April 25, 2006 at 09:46 PM
Once upon a time I contributed to Andrew's blog..it was when he began it, and I enjoyed what he wrote and it got me hooked on the IT as a source of news analysis.
It is quite obvious that just before the 2004 election he went berserk about gay marriage. He also has a thing about brutality and now sees it everywhere in this Administration.
I'd no longer contribute to his blog, but for old time's sake, I'd chip in for a shrink.
Posted by: clarice | April 25, 2006 at 09:51 PM
Clarice:
Are you channeling me ?
The only difference:
I can NEVER write that tight to express my ideas. {:^)
P.S.
Damn Bo, I hope you had that hanging up to copy and paste.
Oops, I think shit doesn't "hang" up.
It "jus lay there 'til scooped up".
Posted by: Dan P. | April 25, 2006 at 09:58 PM
I blame Bush for not accepting all the blame. A real President would just stand up whenever he is blamed for something and say, "Yes. That is my fault, because the buck stops here."
It is so ironic that he's never done that. Literally.
Posted by: MayBee | April 25, 2006 at 10:01 PM