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May 16, 2006

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cathyf

WHOP whop whop whop whop!!!

Semanticleo

No, there's crime, then there's provable crime.

You know, 'beyond a reasonable doubt'?

Surprised you legal eagles don't know that.

Cecil Turner

He's got another good one here (disclosure: I'm a sucker for a Buckaroo Banzai reference).

lurker

"It is rumored that Mr. Fitzgerald’s next subpoena in this weighty matter of state is going out to one Mr. Larry Fine, for a number of suspicious notes written to a Mr. Vernon Dent."

Jason Leopold would have been better off to start his articles with "It is rumored...."

Syl

Just admit that all you have is a BELIEF there was a crime. Think back real hard now. When was the first time you BELEIVED there was a crime? What was it you read and from whom?

Take your time.

Strick

Title envy is never a pretty thing, though is this case, it's justified.

clarice

I blogged on that I loved it so--Is he a lurker? Weren't we just talking about Mo and Curley? If you're watching ,John..kudos.

jwest

It sure would be interesting to get the answers to the questions Cheney asked.

Does the CIA routinely send ex-ambassadors out on missions to find information that wars could hinge on? If so, are these missions usually done pro bono and without confidentiality agreements?

Since all matters in the CIA seem to be an open book now, these questions should be easy to answer.

Patrick R. Sullivan

' I blogged on that I loved it so--Is he a lurker?'

I think not. Had he been he would have written a better column.

Great title though, I agree.

clarice

Here's another whopper which I don't think anyone posted. http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2006/05/fitzmas-freudenschade-spreads-far-and.html

JohnH

TM
You need to start a thread on the Judith Miller column from the WSJ today. She has a very well-researched look into Libya's WMD program and decision to give it up.

cathyf

clarice's link: Fitzmas Freudenschade Spreads Far And Wide

Neo

I often wonder if at the end of all of this there is some sort of a "Jack-in-the-box" lurking. Maybe It's a Dick-Cheney-in-the-box.

We know that Bush did not authorize the leak of Ms Flame's name, but did Dick Cheney, who also has classification (and declassification) authority, authorize it ?

If Fitz tries to push meaning of Dick Cheney’s penciled notes, Dick could fire back.

beautifulatrocities

Fitz pas: n. a prosaic incident that is recast as a sinister move in a nefarious if vague cabal. ex: Cheney committed a fitz pas when he asked "BTW, what's this horseshit Wilson's peddling about me sending him to Niger?"

Wilson's a liar

The URL for this entry is pretty funny.

Dwilkers

Heh. That guy has the same reaction to the notes in the margin I had. I've been imagining the conversation that morning in the VP's office for a while now.

Cheney: Scooter! Get in here and close the door!

Libby: Yes sir.

Cheney: What the f&*% is this?

Libby: (pauses to read) I don't know sir.

Cheney: Who the h%^& is this guy?

Libby: I've never heard of him sir.

Cheney: (glares)

Libby: We could ask Tenet sir.

Cheney: Tenet? George Tenet? The Director of the CIA? The one that sent this guy? Pro Bono?

Libby: If that's true, yes sir.

Cheney: (presses intercom) Mary? Get me Tenet on the line please.

Response: Yes sir.

Cheney: So let me get this straight. This guy....Wilson?....yeah. The CIA asks this guy to go to Niger to see if he can get anything on the uranium thing. He's not an employee of the agency and never has been, he spends a week sitting by the %&^$ing pool and now he's calling me a liar in the NYTimes. That about it?

Libby: ....it seems like it may be sir.

Cheney: Is it true his wife works at the agency? Is that correct

Libby: It seems as if I may be hearing that for the first time sir.

Cheney: Is this the way the CIA does things nowadays Scooter? The C %^&king IA of the USA?

Libby: I don't know sir.

Cheney: (sweetly) Well do you think you could find out what's going on here then?

Libby: On it sir.

maryrose

It's a classic article which really sums up the madness that is King Fitz.
Also in the WSJ is an article by Ms. Espeo regarding Jason Leopold's flame-out over the weekend. It pretty much destroys his credibility by saying he USED to work for the msm.

Tom Maguire

Weren't we just talking about Mo and Curley?

I remember that too, although the Google spiders have not stopped by recently so they are no help.

However - some folks do refer to our oft-quoted buddy as Larry Moe Curley Johnson.

Appalled Moderate

The three stooges: Libby, Cheney and Rove?

clarice

Those were the two best satires I've read in ages. Perfection.

fletcher hudson

The Court of Appeals required Miller and Cooper testify, balancing the principles of rule of law and freedom of press, relying on the weight of national security interests in protecting covert agents (based on Fritz's representations). They indicated that this also applied to perjury as perjury as to such a national security leak was tantamount to a leak of such a nature.
Suppose Russert or other reporters refuse to testify. As it now appears this was not a national security leak, would the balance now be drawn in favor of upholding the privledge? Could the case now be dismissed as this denies Libby a means to defend himself

clarice

FH, that was the view of one J. Tatel, not the other two members of the panel IIRC. The others did not adopt a balancing act test.

topsecretk9

Today is the Libby Press hearing isn't it?

TP

OT. The Wall Street Journal has the first in a 2 part series about the Libyan nuclear program. There is an interesting insight about the disinterest of the CIA in the whole process. Is this a coming out party for Judith Miller or has she been writing elsewhere? http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008381

TP

Sorry, I guess somebody beat me to it.

clarice

Gee, ts..I fogot!

clarice

**foRgot***

danking70

What happened to Larry and Shep? Are they buried in the garden?

JM Hanes

Not crazy about the title myself, but I loved this part:

Meanwhile, Mr. Patrick Fitzgerald will be hurriedly searching for the next little piece of detritus, the next feculent note of great import to be trotted out to the newsies for further fawning praise, the ensuing yellow stickie note with a scrawl indicating another consummate breakthrough in the life of his ongoing rump tribunal to find that immaculate moment when someone, anyone, a person he can find and identify, no matter what damage he causes and how long the inquisition takes, actually told another one that Valerie Plame worked at the, shhh, CIA.

lemondloulou54

TS9, From the Note:
The US District Court holds a 1:30 pm ET hearing before Judge Walton on former Cheney aide Scooter Libby's request to subpoena NBC News, Time magazine, and the New York Times to turn over drafts and documents related to the Valerie Plame outing.

topsecretk9

Thanks Lou Lou

I knew the 16th and checked too...thanks for the time.

Neo

The cat's fine, thanks. Her stool sample shows no evidence of harmful parasites, which is one of the big differences between my cat's stools and this case. i do, occasionally, take a day (or, if i can, an evening) off. Bob Luskin

topsecretk9

Leopold on Schultz in about 10 minutes:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/05/obviously_five_.html#comment-17344166

topsecretk9

Leopold on (I'll leave comments as he goes - give me typo leeway though)

Has been served indictment papers. Oop...Jason is having a loud ringing on his phone that has preventing him from talking so now they have had to hang up and get him back, but it is on Jason's phone

Patton

You really have to wonder what happens if this case gets to trial.

Whjen Libby's lawyer asks one of these reporters what were their others sources for information about Plame and Wilson.

Do they plead the First Amendment????

Do they out their sources?

Does the judge rule the whole line of questioning out of order?

Does that stand on appeal??

Anyway, what time is Fitz's presser on the 72 count Rove indictment.

Sue

That's 72 virgins Patton. You are getting confused, I think. ::grin::

topsecretk9

back on

Jason says he says he thinks it still holds

got a phone call from his source on a phone call on sat, was given super detailed report on the marathon meeting at Luskins

today he was told the entire 4th floor was locked down at Luskins office, plea negations with secret service details

he felt it was an explosive story and his editors corroborated and honestly believed it would break in the NYT's WAPO some else tipped


needless to say, everyone going after him now, and he doesn't meant to sound defensive but yesterday there were 75 reporters at Roves speech and only 1 reporters asked Rove a ? and NO BODY is following up and blaming MSM for not following up


he felt he confirmed with more than 2 sources

other Knight Rider, MSNBC and ABC(?) have a tip but can't track it down (aren't these the same as Larry;s email to Seixon?)

editor knows his sources are

he says his sources haven't burned him in the past(WTF???)

Some blogs hate him, not jealous, he is a nice guy...people wasting energy on little old me (true - me included)


He knows he looks like he is wrong

he bashing Roves spokesman - because of Livingstone resigned

goal-post moving - never said he said when it will be announced
says what ED said

Luskin - he know is going to call all vets

Schultz wants to know if he went to vet alone

Leopold asks why would he be making it up

He has an email- Shultz doesn't want th hear about it

Basically doesn't say jack

topsecretk9

love how he does a little research on Rove's spokesman to insinuate Corrello(sp) is a liar without mentioning that Jsaon called him and used another reporters name and gave him a phony, off by one number phone number.

Sue

Top,

I don't understand the vet question...

Tom Maguire

Weren't we just talking about Mo and Curley?

I remember that too, although the Google spiders have not stopped by recently so they are no help.

However - some folks do refer to our oft-quoted buddy as Larry Moe Curley Johnson.

topsecretk9

Oh, sorry

Jason said he will be calling every vet in Washington to try a confirm Luskin saying he took his cat to the Vet...

it's that dumb.

And um...is a Vet even allowed to confirm that kind of thing, I don't think a doctor could.

Patton

Can anyone diagrahm a 15 HOUR conversation between Fitz and Rove?

Fitz: Your Guilty

Rove: Am Not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am Not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am Not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am Not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Mint?

Fitz: Thanks.

Rove: Am Not.

Fitz: Are too.

Rove: Am not.

Fitz: Are too.

clarice

ROFLMAO!!

topsecretk9

It would be rather hilarious (and sad) if Luskin had his Vet issue a statement of some sort confirming he brought his cat in --releasing the stool sample test results with the statement...wouldn't it?

ed

"goal-post moving - never said he said when it will be announced says what ED said"

I never said anything. I pulled quotes from the guy's article.

Sue

LOL. Patient confidentiality? He could call every vet in Washington DC and not find the one he takes his cat to. My daughter lives in the DFW metroplex but brings her dogs here to the vet. How truly stupid Leopold has become.

topsecretk9

--I never said anything. I pulled quotes from the guy's article.--

Sorry Ed

Said the same thing as Ed's comment in which he pulled quotes from Jason article

really meant nothing other than that.

cathyf
And um...is a Vet even allowed to confirm that kind of thing, I don't think a doctor could.
I think only humans are covered under HIPAA. If cats are covered I will take that as a sign of the impending apocalypse!

cathy :-)

topsecretk9

Also Ed

I was typing fast (as i think I made clear with the typo comment) so I am sorry if I wasn't super clear.

maryrose

Ts
doesn't that come under pet-doctor/patient confidentiality? I'm giving Leopold a big L for loser on this one.
OT:
Schrummy on Hardball got disconnected on his opinion of Immigration. Rove must have turned his mind-ray on him.

Kate

I think we are spending too much time on Jason Leopold. Three weeks ago there was news that Fitzgerald would make a decision on Rove soon--within weeks. That is not news. The GJ meets tomorrow and Friday, but we don't know if it will hear any information on the Plame case.

If Fitzgerald is leaning towards indictment this week, there should be news starting tonight, probably in the NYT that he plans to wrap up the case to the GJ tomorrow and indict Friday.

Again, if Rove is indicted this week, it has nothing to do w/Leopold's report. He has been reporting Rove's indictment for weeks.

Based on the merits of the case, I would come down on no indict. Fitz is the, er, joker, so he throws me off. The way he would handle it is say he had information that caused him to delay his decision, he investigated it (for six months) and it didn't change his mind. The media will swoon, that Elliot Ness, he is so fair.

Lurker

"

Oh, sorry

Jason said he will be calling every vet in Washington to try a confirm Luskin saying he took his cat to the Vet...

it's that dumb.

And um...is a Vet even allowed to confirm that kind of thing, I don't think a doctor could."

Washington state???

Boy, that's a HUGE state! :)

Where is Jason saying this things? link?

Lurker

Nothing happened today. Sigh...

Another 24 hours....

Anything out of that appeals court case before Walton?

Kate

Is today's Libby media hearing open? Wonder if York will have some observations?

topsecretk9

Lurker

you are kidding about Washington state right? and there is a link above to another link to the radio hosts site (and should be able to listen to it recorded)

Dwilkers

Washington DC.

I dunno what just any old vet would do but my vet would laugh if someone called him like that.

topsecretk9

--I dunno what just any old vet would do but my vet would laugh if someone called him like that.--

Jonesing for Herbie pix!!!!!!!

Dwilkers

Whatever happens one thing I am sure about is they didn't meet last Friday for any 15 hours for any reason.

Lurker

Tehehehe, Yup, you fell for it! :)

Dwilkers

Herbie made an appearance in the immigration thread this morning TSK9. ;-)

He snuck on the computer while I was taking the a shower this morning. He such a baaad boy.

PeterUK

Jason Loophole should be given some leeway here,if it were not for this he would be still steeped an a life of petty crime and drug abuse.
Congratulations to him for straightening out and joining the second oldest profession.

PeterUK

What happens if the cat is covert?

Classified Cat

Covert Cat actually.

clarice

What--and I am just asking, you know--what if the cat ATE THE INDICTMENT?

Classified Cat

Madam,I am a lawyer's cat not an alley cat.

Lurker

ROFL! Excuses! Excuses! Is Luskin one of the teacher's favorites? Hope he didn't forget a well-polished, beautiful, shiny red apple!!

cathyf

Well speaking as the owner of the Supermodel Racoon Cat, if the cat ate the indictment it'll be back up soon enough. *cough* *cough* *hack* *cough* *gag*

cathy :-)

Classified Cat

Of course it could have ended up in the litter tray.

ghostcat

That's the spirit!

Lurker

ROFL!

Brit Hume just reported something about today's Libby hearing. The judge wasn't warm to allowing Libby's team bring Joe Wilson to the stand. The judge didn't see any relevancy. NBC lawyers for Andrea Mitchell claim that Andres misspoke on the common knowledge about Plame.

Lurker

Tony Snow's first WH briefing

One of the questions directed to Tony Snow was about Karl Rove. Good thing that Tony Snow refused to confirm or deny.

Poor Helen Thomas, she tried so hard to get Tony Snow to admit that Bush violated US law WRT NSA Terrorist surviellance program and this phone data base.

Syl

Patton

You owe me not only a keyboard, but a cup, the cost of a divorce lawyer for waking Joe from his nap, and the cost of sinus medicine (don't ask).

Thank you, anyway. Made my day. :)

topsecretk9

--He snuck on the computer while I was taking the a shower this morning. He such a baaad boy.--

Now, I knew I shoulda gone to that immigration thread...maybe I was channeling.

TopSecret CANINE luvs Herbie! Topsecret Canine luvs it when Herbie is BAAAAD!

GnuCarSmell

As this case drags on, I have a growing suspicion that Fitzgerald came into it with his mind already made up. He seems determined to suppress any evidence that doesn't fit his theory. Earth to Patrick: If the glove don't Fitz, just call it quitz

Neo

got a phone call from his source on a phone call on sat, was given super detailed report on the marathon meeting at Luskins

today he was told the entire 4th floor was locked down at Luskins office

Did Jason Leopold ever think that Patton Boggs just might have other clients ?

I don't know exactly what kind of clients other than Mr. Rove Patton Boggs handles, and for all we know this (above) could have happened, but it just might be that it involved a shopping mall deal, a Harry Potter-like book/merchandise deal, an intellectual property sale, a civil suit deposition or a corporate buyout due diligence.

topsecretk9

NBC lawyers for Andrea Mitchell claim that Andres misspoke on the common knowledge about Plame.

Really. Take her word for it.

Kate

Well, everyone in this case misspoke or forgot, including Fitz, not fair to single out Libby or Rove. Pardons all around and everyone back to work!

Lurker

"got a phone call from his source on a phone call on sat, was given super detailed report on the marathon meeting at Luskins

today he was told the entire 4th floor was locked down at Luskins office"

This was today?

OOOKKKAAAYYY, question:

Did someone call Corallo and Luskin to verify that the entire 4th floor of Luskin's office was locked down?

Jeralyn Merritt? Byron York?

Neo, I had wondered about the other clients, too. Boy, that's an expensive bill going to Rove...15 hours x 800.00 per hour?

PeterUK

Perhaps they should rename him Fitz Delay

Semanticleo

Pardon my inelegance in suggesting there is
the faint odor of election night partyers
who have already guzzled the punch before either the projections, or returns have come in.

And you folks think I jump to conclusions without any factual foundation.....

Fascinating.

Lurker

Or last Saturday's MTLA meeting where they jumped to conclusions based on Jason's less-than factual articles?

boris

</partypooper>

Dwilkers

Would you be talking about a Maine Coon Cat Cathy?

If so that is a seriously cool animal, I have a friend that has one.

Kate

It's hard to read but I'm guessing the source told him today that the entire 4th Floor was locked down on Friday. This is the same source that called him on Saturday with the news of the super marathon 15 hour meeting. I think that's what he means.

Lurker

Surprised Jason still believes in his source....

Another one of those things for Corallo and Luskin to deny....

How many lives does Luskin's cat have left after last Saturday?

topsecretk9

-I'm guessing the source told him today that the entire 4th Floor was locked down on Friday.--

Yes, though I can't remember if he said "my source" or "a source" called today -

on the link, the segment should be recorded - as I am sure I missed a few things


BTW...does anyone know if Rove has SS detail and to what degree? I mean it's not like Karl Rove has a fleet of agents traveling around with him to the degree described here like the president. 2? 3? tops...not like 3 SSagents are going to be that noticeable compared with a fleet of lawyers either.

Syl

It's hard to read but I'm guessing the source told him today that the entire 4th Floor was locked down on Friday.

With Secret Service no less.

Maybe Chelsea Clinton needs lawyers for something?

Oh, I know! This will get their hearts fluttering---maybe Cheney was there!!!

I don't think Rove gets a Secret Service detail.

Kate

Byron York has another post on Leopold and maybe the JOM lawyerscould help me out. Why would Fitzgerald come to Luskin's office instead of the other way around? Would Rove be there? Fitzgerald handed Rove the indictment? I didn't know indictments were handed down like that. I thought they were filed in court. The entire 4th Floor was locked down. Wouldn't every lawyer and paralegal in the place be calling the media. Wouldn't the other media Leopold cites have more than one source.

I just think Leopold and his source made this up and thought they could stall to a real indictment and take credit for breaking the story.

topsecretk9

Syl

Great minds!

Dwilkers

Jason Loophole should be given some leeway here,if it were not for this he would be still steeped an a life of petty crime and drug abuse.

Congratulations to him for straightening out and joining the second oldest profession.

/ROFL

I love British humor.

clarice

It's probably R/S/S passing off to Luskin the supersecret plane for nuking Iran to divert press attention from his indictment. They're trying to time it right.

clarice

*PLAN, not plane**********

topsecretk9

--I just think Leopold and his source made this up and thought they could stall to a real indictment and take credit for breaking the story--

I am just curious why no one is asking Wilson the same questions as Leopold...since he has sources that said the same thing---- (and did commiserate with Truthout editor before it was retracted)

cathyf
Would you be talking about a Maine Coon Cat Cathy?
Nah, he's a tuxedo cat. We have 3 cats -- The Cat, The Dog, and The Racoon. We thought The Dog was bad -- jumping up on the counters and tables to grab food, and then we got The Racoon. Pour cereal in your milk, put the milk back in the fridge, turn around, and in the 3.5 seconds, The Racoon has already eaten 1/2 your cereal. I locked the case with the girl scout cookies in the bathroom this morning, and I came home to find the remains of peanut butter patties with all of the peanut butter licked off in the middle of the living room floor. He opens kitchen cabinets and drags food out. A couple of days ago he openend the fridge, and I panicked, but then decided that the fridge must not have been all the way closed and so he still can't get it open in general. He knocks over garbage cans. Day before yesterday he dragged out a bag of rice that I had pitched as slightly aged leftovers. This from the kitche trash with the heavy lid wedged behind the door with the broom propping the door. But the very worst thing is that after he eats aything other than the Purina Special Care Cat Food For Sensitive Systems, he pukes. (Hence the bulemia comment.)

Maine Coons are pretty cool cats. One of my coworkers has one who is another one like The Dog. They got him as a stray -- he was filthy, and had fleas, but even as a stray, he was FAT. Not missing any meals!

Now I'm sitting here wondering why I haven't taken The Racoon to the pound long ago! Oh, well, he's very sweet and affectionate (another Uncat thing!) He will put his cheek against yours and purr...

cathy :-)

maryrose

OT;
Not that I don't like cats we have one}
Any more news about how and when McCarthy got hired back and any progress on NSA leak?
I think Clarice said some info coming the latter part of May.
I agree with Kate- no do overs or take backs for Andrea Mitchell. If she misspoke then Libby was misunderstood. There we are even!


maryrose

cathyf:
If I had a cat like that destroying my house we'd be at the pound in a New York minute. We only have the one cat which we got when I was in a vulnerable place having lost my dad 3 months earlier. My children sensed momentary weakness and struck;hence we have Kona who really doesn't mess with me since I end up feeding her and cleaning the litter box. But I draw the line at puke clean up.

clarice

SCRATCH Culture of Conniption--The new Dem themes is--ta da--A Spiritual Covenant with America:

Now it's "spiritual covenant with America" (quick hide those no more Bush Theocracy signs) conference geared to help Democrats infuse God into their politics begins tomorrow at All Souls Unitarian Church in the District with the unveiling of a "spiritual covenant with America."
The "Spiritual Activism Conference" aims to equip liberals to operate in a political arena where religion has played a more prominent role since 2000, says Rabbi Michael Lerner, founder of the Jewish magazine Tikkun and a chief conference organizer.
"While we support the liberal agenda, we are going to a much deeper level with this spiritual critique," he said. "We want to bring in a nonutilitarian framework that sees other human beings as embodiments of the sacred."
After some 1,200 conferees receive copies of the covenant -- an alternative to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich's successful 1994 "Contract With America" that led to a Republican takeover of the House later that year -- they are expected to discuss it Thursday in meetings with members of Congress. " http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060515-110136-1693r.htm

MayBee

Perhaps the source misspoke. The entire fourth floor was locked (not locked-down), because LUSKIN WASN'T THERE.

PeterUK

"We want to bring in a nonutilitarian framework that sees other human beings as embodiments of the sacred."

How are they going to square that with Ted?

topsecretk9

I'm sorry this is very OT, but I did not realize the conspiracy theories surrounding the pentagon plane , this is N U T S (warning DU link)


What exactly happened to the people supposedly on board (god rest their souls) the plane? Barbara Olsen perished on that plane...I hate to even say such, but she has not surfaced? Do these things cross their mind? at all? This is crazy.

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