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May 15, 2006

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Moe Lane

Cruel of you, Tom. Exceedingly cruel.

Loki

Who is a bigger ass? Nifong or Fitzgerald?

maryrose

TM
You had me going there for a minute!

clarice

Prosecution hall of fame (in alphabetical order) Earle, Fitzgerald and Nifong.Or, if we want a nifty acronym FEN

SteveMG

"Jesus saves, but Espo scores on the rebound."

There, I (sorta') rescued you TM.

SMG

Patton

"The DNA will tell the story in this case......"

""the DNA would exonerate innocent people,"""


Errr, what I meant to say......
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Libby was the first...

Libby revealed NIE information he was not authorized...

Err, what I meant to say was.....

noah

Each "assailant" has roughly a one in seven chance of being among the first seven photos (7/46). The probabilities are independent. So before starting the "line-up", one would predict that only in about one out of 350 trials would all three be identified after only 7 photos. (Rough guess but I doubt is very far off).

She clearly got impatient with the process.

noah

Ooops. Only two were identified? And I'm confused obviously...if the players aren't allowed mustaches, how did it happen that she was shown a photo with a mustache?

I guess I will have to break down and read the links. Later.

clarice

I just heard she identified FOUR men.

So we have one indicted with an apparent air tight alibi.

One who she said had a moustache indicted when he never had a moustache.

Not a single bit of the any of the three indicted men on her--no semen, saliva, skin cells, hair, nada.
The man indicted today has DNA similar to a fingernail found in his trash can. The DNA is useless because (a) it is only "partially consistent" which means zip and it was on the "outside"of the nail which also means nothing especially as it was in his trash cans with lots of stuff with his dna on it..
And there is no speedy trial requirement there so the prosecutor will not bring the case until next year.

DF

Noah is almost right but once the first "assailant" is placed in the first seven there are only six slots left, then five, so the answer is actually (7/46)*(6/45)*(5/44) or about 1 in 430.

Since I know more about probability than about law, is there really no practical way to get a speedy trial, notwithstanding the sixth amendment, absent a statute setting a specific timeframe? This is surprising to me.

clarice

The defendants will have to find a way to raise the Sixth Amendment claim. I expect that will be their next step.

noah

DF, yep.

I also completely misread Tom's post re the moustache. All is clear now.

Hey, O for 2 ain't bad, its only the bottom of the sixth and I'm up next.

Hope springs eternal in the human breast. (A. Pope)

Gary Maxwell

Clarice

Since when do you not have Constitutional granted rights as a citizen? Just cuz its State court? How could that be? I am virtually positve that we all have a right to a "speedy" trial granted by the US Constitution ( 6th amendment ), whatever that has been intrepreted to mean, but it cant be a year plus, if I am prviding the definition. And does not the 14th amendment mean that State courts must observe this fundamental right?

Sue

Speedy Trial rights in North Carolina

Speedy trial time frames are determined on a case-by-case basis in North Carolina.

Sue

http://www.lawyers.com/lawyers/A~1020204~LDS/NORTH+CAROLINA+CRIMINAL+PROCESS.html>Source

Meant to link this above...

tim maguire

How about this: Nifong is a Rovian plant whose job is to undermine the integrity of prosecutors, causing juries to question their every assertion, thus making Fitzgerald's job virtually impossible, thus saving Rove from an indictment and Libby from a conviction.

Gary Maxwell

Nifong is doing an outstanding job under those assumptions!

clarice

Got an article which will probably go online tomorrow about this case..I'll post it when it's up.

tomr

she id'd the third rapist what more do they need.and where is he from potamac md. one of the richest towns in md.this kid looks and sounds guilty.get this trial under way

abe

Tom R., she seems to have gone 1 for 3 (at best) in id's; that is a creditable witness to you? You do understand she was shooting ducks in a barrel? And how does his zip code figure into the gulit/innocence discussion?

tomr

look in his eyes i see guilt.his lawyer thinks speak in public look innocent will help.it doesn't get the trial started

Gary Maxwell

Tomr Do you hear voices too?

Gary Maxwell

Interesting column today by Kathleen Parker in the Orlando paper:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/05/breathing_while_white.html>BREATHING WHILE WHITE

Despite the title, she does a pretty good job of addressing the pampered athletes crapola, that got my panties in a twist a day or two ago.

clarice

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5503 My take on it.

MayBee

Great article, clarice. Amazing mind you have, to bring up A Passage to India.

It seems to me this prosecutor has decided he can't deal with the political pressure of the case, so in lieu of an investigation he is just going to put her story to a jury and see what sticks. I find that inexcusable.

clarice

Thanks, MayBee..Actually, I think he rushed to get the first 2 indictments for political reasons and is in no hurry to try the case at all.

windansea

In an otherwise excellent piece, Feldman make one mistake ('the accuser made a prior charge years ago involving three white men' -- the prior charges by the accuser were made against three black men, not white men).

one minor quibble at lucianne.com where your article is posted Clarice

clarice

Thanks..I'll see if the editor can change it. That's what I get for relying on memory. (I distinctly recall it being described originally as I reported it, but not the change--Of course, that is common. First reports often get revised.)

Gary Maxwell

Clarice

I have been haunting some other sites on this and yesterday several posters managed to convince themselves that Evans has used a false mustache. There was no shaking their confidence in this, no matter how unlikely it was to have occurred.

I fear for the defendants. Not because there is any compelling evidence, other than her accusation I see zero corroboration. No I fear that it will be a reverse OJ verdict. This time instead of having a murderer walking free among us, we may witness the incarceration of totally innocent young men. And that outcome to me has always been the worse of the two potential extremes.

tomr

he used fake names fake mustache this kid is a real piece of work

abe

She used fake nails and made at least one false rape accusation; that's a real piece of work. Keep trying, Tomrboy.

tomr

thats why a jury will decide.guilty 3 years

Gary Maxwell

Son of Sam's dog spoke to him, how about you?

tomr

the judge is right make them wait let them twist.what they did too that poor girl.rich punk kids

tomr

dump danowski have him go too duke.let him lose there

bob

a 25 year old kid at duke the profram is doomed

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