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May 11, 2006

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windansea

"The Democratic Party platform from 2004 says that marriage is between a man and a woman. That's what it says.

where Howie??

paul

Big tent politics-"this one is full, but you can still pitch it next to ours."

JJ

Inkblot and Ooops link?

The Unbeliever

Aww, lay off of poor Howard Dean. Even though he lied through his teeth, he is--as Kos himself noted--the valiant reformer who will lead the DNP to ultimate victory! And surely the Democrats wouldn't elect an ultra-divisive panderer to that position since he would be unrepresentative of the party as a whole, right?

...right?

JJ

OIC, the inkblot is down in the oops. A jarring headline to walk around though!

Gabriel Sutherland

It's in there. It's just written with a new ink, ironically invented by John Kerry. It's better than invisible ink because it rewrites itself based on whatever audience you are appearing before.

The best evar!

tomf

O.K. Garbiel, but I have Sen. Levin's magic magnifying glass and I'm going to be looking. :).

Old Dad

tomf,

Would you consider trading Sen. Levin's magic magnifying glass for Sen. Biden's Plagiaromatic?

kim

Don't tell everyone, but there's going to be a big surprise jump out of the middle of that yellow cake.
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kim

Well, I didn't know it was going to be a surprise 97th birthday party for my dear old Daddy, so all I brought was this tattered retrospectoscope I picked up cheap off a down and outer name of Joe.
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kim

Dang, 'battered retrospectoscope' as in yellow cake mix.
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windansea

Dean sez sorry...nevermind

"I misstated the Democratic Party's platform, which does not say that marriage should be limited to a man and a woman, but says the Party is committed to full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and leaves the issue to the states to decide," he said in a statement.

"The Democratic Party remains committed to equal protection under the law for all Americans. How we achieve that goal continues to be the subject of a contentious debate, but our Party continues to oppose constitutional amendments that seek to short circuit the debate on how to achieve equality for all Americans."

Gabriel Sutherland

lol. There's Dean's "voted for it, before I voted against it" moment.

Sue

My God...he just lost the 700 Club vote. ::grin::

mariner

Let's see:

A constitutional amendment concerning marriage would short-circuit debate.

Rulings from judges imposing gay marriage on unwilling populations is the way of democracy.

I guess I just don't have that "reality-based community" thing down yet.

The Unbeliever

Warning, ignorant hypocrite alert!

our Party continues to oppose constitutional amendments that seek to short circuit the debate on how to achieve equality for all Americans.

You don't say? Last I checked, Americans decided issues on the national debate scene using that quaint mechanism we call elections. Let's assume a basic understanding of the Constitution, and try a little thought experiment: for any given proposal, which resolution would be more "representative" of how Americans feel?

(A) An Amendment proposed by 2/3 of Congress and ratified by 3/4 of the duly elected state legislatures
(B) A Supreme Court decision handed down by 5 individuals

Bonus question: which party, over the last 40 years or so, is best known for pushing its constituent members' agendas through the Court system as opposed to the Legislature?

The Unbeliever

Dang, mariner beat me to the punch while I was typing. (Note to self: sarcasm impedes brevity.)

flenser

"our Party continues to oppose constitutional amendments that seek to short circuit the debate on how to achieve equality for all Americans."

So, constitutional amendments, with all the democratic discussion and process which accompany them, "seek to short circuit the debate"?

Unlike, I suppose, the scenario where the Supreme Court amends the constitution.

maryrose

According to a dem strategist the slap-fight between Dean/Emanuel/Schumer was because of Dean{taking the long view 50 state strategy} versus putting what little money dems have on hand{at least for the house races} into contests they can actually win. I have to go with Dean on this because unless they can repair relationships in the South, Midwest and Southwest they haven't got a prayer of regaining the WH. I'm just wondering how much longer before dems throw Dean under the bus?
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davod

It is my understanding that Dean's strategy is to take the fight to the Republican heartland. Republicans would do well to stop looking at the Democratic theatre and start looking at what Dean is actually doing.

Republicans strategists would look pretty silly on November 8 if a sizeable number of Red areas turned Blue.

richard mcenroe

OK, I gots to know.

What POSSIBLE relationship with the South could Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and Kos repair?

Unless we're warming up for Civil War II?

topsecretk9

I second Richard...

what are they doing? Doing and saying you are doing are different.

clarice

I think there's hardly a soul left in the Democratic party who understands the American Middle Class-they spend too little time with them. It's a pity really, not just for the election chances, but because they are what makes this country strong, resilient and unbeatable.

Sue

and start looking at what Dean is actually doing

You mean lying? Cause the people he is trying to buffalo may not be blue bloods, but they aren't chicken feed either. Something we can spot a mile away is a lying Yankee carpetbagger.

clarice

A bit off topic--but this deserves wide distribution:
quote]SPEAKING OF RU 486 [Ramesh Ponnuru]

Judicial Watch's report on the topic has a lot of eye-opening information, but the letter from Ron Weddington, the co-counsel on Roe v. Wade, to President-elect Bill Clinton is especially worth checking out. It's on pages 61-64.
A sampling:
[Y]ou can start immediately to eliminate the barely educated, unhealthy and poor segment of our country. No, I'm not advocating some sort of mass extinction (sic) of these unfortunate people. Crime, drugs and disease are already doing that. The problem is that their numbers are not only replaced but increased by the birth of millions of babies to people who can't afford to have babies. There, I've said it. It's what we all know is true. . . .
I am not proposing that you send federal agents armed with Depo-Provera dart guns to the ghetto. You should use persuasion rather than coercion. . . . You made a good start when you appointed Dr. Elders, but she will need a lot of help. . . .
[G]overnment is also going to have to provide vasectomies, tubal ligations and abortions. . . . There have been about 30 million abortions in this country since Roe v. Wade. Think of all the poverty, crime and misery. . . and then add 30 million unwanted babies to the scenario. We lost a lot of ground during the Reagan-Bush religious orgy. We don't have a lot of time left.
We don't need more cannon fodder. We don't need more parishioners. We don't need more cheap labor. We don't need more poor babies
Now of course these sorts of sentiments aren't shared by all or even most supporters of legal abortion, but I suspect they are more widely thought than voiced.[/quote]

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGMwMTg3MjUxNWUxYmM2NjA4YjQyMGY1YWFhN2RlYjg=

kim

Clarice, that smells like hoax to me.

Or else the Dems spell demographics with an H and an A and an R and an I and a K and another I, and another R, and yet another I.

That's not disemboweling, it's disenfranchisement.
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kim

Every beating heart arrested disenfranchises a voter.
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clarice

It was gathered from Clinton's library as a result of a lawsuit. I have no reason to doubt it's authenticity.

clarice

Here is the 64 pp pdf file of the documents obtained in this litigation from the Clinton Presidential Library.http://judicialwatch.org/archive/2006/jw-ru486-report.pdf

There's a great deal more there, including how the "morning after pill" was pushed through the FDA without normal review.

kim

It is damning if real. Shades of Margaret Sanger.

We know where dwell those shades.
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clarice

Isn't it?

kim

An ironic illustration of the unsustainability of evil.
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richard mcenroe

Here's the very simple question:

If the Democrats are restored to power, will they end the datamining?

Will they close down Echelon?

Will they disband DHS?

If not. Why not?

JM Hanes

Clarice

I've only gotten through page 11, but so far I have to say that the "RU-846 Files" is one of the most flagrantly biased presentations I've read in a long time.

clarice

Is it? After the 47 pp filing I'm avoiding pdf files. The key thing is this? Was the letter truthfully reported?

clarice

JM I tried just now. I really can't bearing reading pdf files. (About shortcircuiting the fda proceedings, I will say my nephew did post doc work there and had many questions about how scrupulously the agency adheres to its normal testing. There is a great deal of pressure by drug companies, often successfully, to shorten the process.)

JM Hanes

I'm afraid I just don't have the time or patience to do the wading it would take to find out.

JM Hanes

It seems to me that Republicans have been every bit as willing as Dems to politicize the FDA -- and more recently a host of scientific governmental agencies to boot. My sister has been involved in ethics-related oversight of grant proposals in scientific research for a couple of decades, and she is absolutely scathing in her criticism of this Administration's policies and appointments in this arena.

JM Hanes

BTW -- I usually print out PDF's instead of reading them online. Makes it easier to highlight stuff and write my screechy comments in the margins too.:)

clarice

Me, too--but when they reach a certain size I kind of pass..unless it's critical..Weddington BTW is the ex-husband of Roe of Roe v, Wade..

clarice

FDA is in a funny position--everyone wants the new medicines on the market yesterday but they also want them as safe as possible and the normal FDA process takes ages. I think this process reduction pressure has been going on for a long time.
And we both now that until large numbers of people (way beyond those in the largest feasible trials) for a decade or so, we aren't able to fully know all the risks. Or so my nephew says.

clarice

**And we both Know that until large numbers of people (way beyond those in the largest feasible trials)use a drug for a decade or so, we aren't able to fully know all the risks. ******

richard mcenroe

Davod β€” "It is my understanding that Dean's strategy is to take the fight to the Republican heartland. "

Between the clueless teenagers, convicted felons and aging lefty flakes he sent out last time, we can only hope.

Gary Maxwell

Sue

Something we can spot a mile away is a lying Yankee carpetbagger.

Spoken like my dear relatives in Tennessee. But us Texans are usually a bit more circumspect in our elocution. Such as "dont pee on my boots and tell me its raining." Haha

maryrose

My understanding is the Southwest is a target area most prominently figured in dem stategy. Remember how Kerry dismissed the South with a wave of his hand. That proved to be his undoing. Thankfully Schumer and Rahm are going to prevail in this turf battle. I'm sure plans are underway for Dean's bus accident especially if Rahm is spewing coarse language and venom.

kim

That heritage DNA is there for a reason. Only evil would deny that.
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richard mcenroe

This just in... Pelosi backs away from impeachment...

Gary Maxwell

Pelosi backs away from impeachment.

Do you believe her? think she might change her mind again? And notice they did not think they could wipe away all the foam froth from John Conyers in time to put him with Pelosi in the press conference. ( for those who dont know this bozo would be the chairman of the House Judiciary committee where any investigation would start ).

Joseph Cannon

This House could pass an elephant if it chose.

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