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June 16, 2006

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Semanticleo

you just kept walking.

Trust is a commodity not in plentiful supply

Sue

Leo,

You weren't banned. Just admit you might have assumed something that wasn't true and move on.

Semanticleo

---Pretty and sensitive and lovely, isn't it?

Yes, and repeating it makes it doubly so.

topsecretk9

---accompany "lie" is broader than most folks, but my definition of 'banned'
includes the Plausible Denialism of a site host who diddles with Typepad, and incurs--


Sue, you see where this is going don't you? Cleo is trying to get banned in order to run back to rockpaperscissors and emptynest and all various homing ground and rile everyone up at this grave and hypocritical injustice.

Give
Cleo
life membership!

verner

Leo, you're not banned. But from now on, you're going to be ignored--by me.

You might not care. Fine. I just find you terribly boring, not very informed and rather whiney.

I think you've been treated well here, especially by TM. You have nothing to complain about.

Semanticleo

I believe I have admitted I was not banned. If that was not clear; I was in error, wrong, mistaken.

Will you LET me move on?

Semanticleo

Leo, you're not banned. But from now on, you're going to be ignored--by me.

Is there a problem?

Sara (The Squiggler)

Leo, Typepad runs slow sometimes. And so does your Internet connection or their's. This is what causes timeouts. To ban someone in Typepad requires entering information about them that is recognizable to the Typepad internal software filters. And you will be told when you try to post that you are not authorized to post.

Sue

That's funny, Top.

http://www.davidmsc.com/wp-images/nerd.jpg>This is how I see Leo.

Chants

Google "Semanticleo".

She is a professional victim.

Bill in AZ

TS - whew! I hope you didn't get any of that on you. I wade through the fever swamps once in a while too - just to stay pissed off at what MSM has created in 40 years of unchallenged drivel. There isn't a single shred of fact that can merit their blind hate for Rove/Cheney/Bush. Over 40 years MSM has carefully and deliberately cultivated this "revolution" - and Bush is taking the brunt of it.

Lurker

There is no comparison between LJ and Ann Coulter. Ann tells the truth while her comments are very direct and crude.

LJ is a flat-out liar making comments that are not based on facts.

Boy, anyone check Roy Robison's articles and detailed by Strata-sphere. He nots that the new information about Atta links in the Wilson-Plame angle where Joe Wilson may have been covering up a Niger-Iraq connection.

Go check Strata-sphere and Mac Ranger.

Lurker

Looks like the House passed last night's bill...

Lurker

Oh, the War on Terror moved out of Iraq, now focusing in Afganistan.

AQ is LOSING!

Yippee-yee-yay!!

Specter

TIC,

Well - it wasn't an apology...but whatever. I have trouble with typepad too. Sometimes to the point of cleaning out the cache and rebooting. Take the basic steps first. If you are banned from most sites you get a message. If you run over to my site you can see what Marc Ash did when he banned me - no warning I will admit, but I wasn't offensive like the offerings from LJ and DU. Just banned cuz a few of his regulars did not like me.

Semanticleo

Sue and TopSec start a cooking class.....

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/FOOD/news/04/03/fat.ladies/

Sorry, no fancy hyperlinks

Rick Ballard

Chants,

That's a good summary. The key was Corn's initial lie - that's the baby meme in its crib that should have been smothered.

We're seeing the same thing with the Iraq "human rights student journalist" day-after video in Haditha. The MSM pimped McGirk's piece and now there's a brand new meme in the crib - with a twin growing with the Hamdaniya story that Clarice writes about today.

Perhaps this time the blogs can interfer with meme growth enough to stop the lies from spreading. We can only hope so.

Lurker

Specter, they didn't like you because they could not stand anyone pointing out how wrong they were while presenting the facts.

Lurker

The cost of Iraq and 9/11

Ah....so good to read Vasko Kohlmayer's article challenging Pelosi's numbers.

And I find it humorously that a dead man that wanted to move the world back to primitive times; yet, use a thumbdrive.

sad

Sue and TopSec start a cooking class.....

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/FOOD/news/04/03/fat.ladies/

Sorry, no fancy hyperlinks

Posted by: Semanticleo | June 16, 2006 at 02:26 PM

____________________________________________

tic

do you have a better reference? The one above doesn't work. I really like tops and sue and was hoping to be part of the cooking class too.

Clarice

Great article. My son is away this summer with no access to newspapers, phones, computers etc. He is a news and politics junkie so I print articles and mail them to him. Always include your pieces.

Sue

Leo,

LOL. I deserved that. http://www.vintagemovie-posters.com/images/cinderella.jpg>Me

Enjoy...

Sara (The Squiggler)

Grand jury declines to indict Rep. Cynthia McKinney for hitting a Capitol Police officer in March according to Fox News.

Sara (The Squiggler)

Lurker - Malkin is also covering the story.

sad

Rick

The boldness of the falsehoods took everyone by surprise and slowed the response initially. Who could have foretold the depths to which some were willing to sink? It wasn't just the right that was fooled, look at the number of "journalists" that took so much at face value. We won't get fooled again. We are all a lot more cynical now.

clarice

Thanks, Rick and sad. It looks like the vets are mobilizing and may give Murtha the political race of his life.
I am old enough to remember when the liberals would have been the ones screaming about the ill treatment of these guys.
Lurker, Vasko is a treasure.

Pete

PeterUK - your arguments are simply rationalizations (on behalf of Coulter) which do not hold up. I do not want to argue endlessly on each point. You say that Karl Rove's mother is not a political opponent. Neither are the husbands of the widows whom Coulter has now dragged in.

Sara (The Squiggler)

Abu Nidal -- isn't he the one who was Ollie North's nemesis?

verner

Pete, the point that is being made however, is that Karl Rove NEVER dragged his mother in--however, the Jersey Girls and Sheehan used their loved ones as an excuse to drag themselves in.

Get it.

Lurker

Pete, from one perspective, your statement would be correct. Not until one sees what those widows had been doing. As far as Ann Coulter making them simply as political entities, that's not her point. Her point is the actions, opinions, and philosophy of those widows.

Didn't someone disprove that Rove's mother did NOT commit suicide? And Rove's mother had nothing to do with whatever those widows did. Rove's mother is simply not a political entity whereas those widows volunteered themselves as political fighters for the wrong reasons.

Tom Maguire

She'll make a ton of money with her idiotic remarks. Her idiotic remarks will make her a lot more money than Larry's idiotic comments will.

They both deserve to be ignored and shunned.

Yes, but - Ms. Coulter engages in attention-seeking hyperbole to hype her books; playing along is for folks who want to help her laugh her way to the bank.

Larry Johnson is a reliable anon source for the MSM; these sort of comments, revealing the "real" Larry, give him an exposure I expect he would prefer to avoid.

sad

OT but does anyone have any news as to the status of Joe and Val's book deal? I forsee a huge factchecking issue for any publisher wanting to print as nonfiction. The Frey debacle is not something to be repeated. Or is that a naive point of view? Obviously the left would buy it like crazy.

Lurker

Will Vasko write an article about Bring U.S. troops home by end of '06

I simply did not like Kerry's introduction:

"Half of those whose names are inscribed on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial were lost after America's leaders knew our strategy would not succeed. It was immoral then, and it is immoral now, to be quiet or equivocal in the face of such delusion."

PeterUK

No Pete,
The Jersey girls had relatives in 9/11,wrongly or rightly Coulter is attacking them for using their lost relatives for political purposes.
Karl Rove has not done the same with his mother,Louche Larry decided to use her to attack him,this is not the same thing.
Equivalence might make you feel better,but the mere fact that you have to seek such, indicates you are not yet on the way to recovery.

Lurker

And, TM, have you or anyone else read Cobra II?

Sara (The Squiggler)

Pete, you are missing the point completely. Coulter does not use the dead spouses, she complains about the way the widows use their dead spouses as a shield to protect them against their poltical activism.

I have never ever heard Karl Rove use his dead mother or disabled child as an excuse to protect him from politcal adversaries.

Dwilkers

I believe I have admitted I was not banned. If that was not clear; I was in error, wrong, mistaken.

Will you LET me move on?

Your slander stands until you go correct it - clearly and unambiguously - where you said it, and prove it by linking that up.

Until then you haven't done diddly, you've still slandered our gracious host and this board.

Lurker

YAY! Powerline refers to StrategyPage with one excerpt:

"Al Qaeda in Iraq has been virtually wiped out by the loss of an address book. The death of al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi was not as important as the capture of his address book and other planning documents in the wake of the June 7th bombing."

WIPED OUT!! WIPED OUT!!!

BTW, when Larry attacked Rove's mother, think how others...like Brit Hume would feel , especially when one of his sons committed suicide.

Pete

I never bought the argument that the women are using their husbands. That sounds too much like a blame the victim mentality.

And given the amount of attacks I have heard launched on these women, I don't buy the argument that they use them as shields. When have these women used their husbands as shields may I ask?

If I died and my wife was to become an activist, research the issues and to challenge the government, my attitude would be - go girl! All the more power to you.

I have never understood why some people are so jealous of these women? Or why they attack them. Nobody is stopping any other relative from becoming activists. And if these women have attracted a big following, it is a free society nothing wrong with that.

Pete

Chants - "The skeptics got very litle play in the press."

You've got to be kidding me. Do you ever watch Fox News (or is that not mainstream enough for you)? I've personally seen Fred Barnes, Britt Hume, John Fund on Fox (just 3 off the top of my head, though I could probably name half a dozen others if I think hard enough) recite the talking points that you say never made it in the media. I've seen plenty of counterpoints on other channels as well (Victoria Toensing comes prominently to mind as does John Fund and Ken Mehlman (SP?)).

We'll see what history says about this.

Sara (The Squiggler)

The Left and the Dems call the victims of 9/11 heroes. The first responders can be called heroes as they went into the buildings after the attack to try to rescue the victims. Those who were working in the building who lost their lives are not heroes, they are innocent victims of a brutal attack planned by psychotic men half a world away. Those who went after these men and gave their lives in the process are not innocent victims of an evil Bush, they are heroes. If the Left could just get this straight, maybe we could have a sensible discussion.

Lurker

"If I died and my wife was to become an activist, research the issues and to challenge the government, my attitude would be - go girl! All the more power to you."

This is not the argument that many posters are presenting. Most posters don't have a problem with the spouses becoming activists.

The problem has to do with their reasons, rationale, opinions, that they became activists for.

PeterUK

Sara,
It takes a most peculiar creature to resurect the memory of the mother of a middle aged man.Karl was thirty when she died,he is now fifty five,twentyfive years is a long time,it takes a particularly poisonous pustule to rake up something that long ago.
Perhaps we should ask why Larry got fired from the CIA?

PeterUK

"I have never understood why some people are so jealous of these women? Or why they attack them. Nobody is stopping any other relative from becoming activists. And if these women have attracted a big following, it is a free society nothing wrong with that."

Jealous,Dear God,the left at thought!
Of course nobody is stopping the others from becoming activists,but they did not become activists,so this begs the question,why those that did did so.

clarice

Yeah, why didn't the others get the front seat and rose petals at the SSIC hearings and Fenton to shepherd them to all the Alphabet interviews? I wonder.

Gary Maxwell

Perhaps we should ask why Larry got fired from the CIA?

Think it may have had anything to do with a bout of mental instability?

Other Tom

Can someone enlighten me as to what was on the C-SPAN panel program that might have affected Fitzgerald? Thanks.

PeterUK

Gary,
Well Larry was an analyst,they teach them to do all manner of diabolical things with a pencil down on the Farm.IIRC his breath alone could stun a Wildebeest at fifty paces.He will have studied the arcane arts of martial rhetoric and probably has an extensive armatorium of offensive remarks.

Chants

"Perhaps we should ask why Larry got fired from the CIA?"

No People skills?

Extraneus
18. I say ALL is fair in love and war.... and we ARE at war with repugs

... at war to regain our Country... fuck KKKarl Rove... and his dead mother. I'm sick and tired of all the hand wringing spineless jellocrats that keep rolling over and taking the bullshit these pukes dish out. Take off the kid gloves and lets get down and dirty. This is full scale Revolution... the only thing that is going to save us.

Maybe I'm too sheltered, but I've seen no evidence of anyone on the right this vicious -- and this person's obviously not the only one. There are plenty of them. But where will it all lead? Is this ultimately going to become violent? Good thing these folks don't believe in the right to keep and bear arms, huh?

PeterUK

"Perhaps we should ask why Larry got fired from the CIA?"

No People skills?

How can you say that Chants,you have visited his site.

Lurker

UGH!!

Joe Wilson: US Should Negotiate With Iraqi Terrorists

PeterUK

Extraneous,
That is the nub of the whole problem overblown gutter rhetoric,at some point somebody will have to put up or shut up.
It is highly irresponsible for political leaders to sanction the attitudes of a street gang in mature politics,whilst most of these people can be kept under control by cutting their allowances or sending them to their rooms,there are a significant number deranged enough to take action.

Kate

Larry Johnson seems to be a very sick person. His attacks on Rove are bad, but then he drags in Bush's daughters, that's always a sign of a sickie. The unwritten rule in DC is leave the kids out of it.

And why is he a groupie of Joe Wilson. He reminds me of the nerdy kid that used to hang around with the class bully.

Larry Johnson needs help.

verner

Pete,

Let's try this. What if Ted Olsen, whose wife Barbara--a KNOWN political activist and friend of Ann Coulter who died at the Pentagon on 911--decided to go on TV and blame the democrats for her death. What if a group of women who support Bush formed a group accusing the Clinton administration of killing their husbands on 911. What do you think the democrats reaction would be? You think their behavior wouldn't be questioned? You think their backers wouldn't be scrutinized? What about the families who have lost sons like Cindy Sheehan? Why aren't they on the news?

I don't like Ann Coulter's tactics, but I happen to agree with her point. The Jersey Girls are now just pundits like anyone else, and if they dish it out, they should be prepared to take it, just like anyone else.

verner

I'll tell you something else Kate. The nature of his threats to people he doesn't like is, to say the least, disturbing.

He needs to be on some very strong medication--or maybe that's his problem.

PeterUK

That is the point Verner,Murtha Served therefore he cannot be questioned,even though he can throw mud at the service of those who are serving now.The Jersey Girls,lost loved ones so they cannot be questioned,it is the old moral highground the left have made their own.It is emotional blackmail,pure and simple.

brenda taylor

clarice you are truly a treasure.great article

Kate

verner: the media is an enabler. They cover for their message props and hide their ugliness and mental illness. The media does it with Sheehan, they do it with Johnson.

I remember hearing about the anti-war demonstrations and how they were normal folks, wholesam families, little grandmothers.

I decided to watch the demonstration on C-span and saw radicals, supporters of Castro and cop killers, haters. None of this made the media reports.

Sue

Larry Johnson is a reliable anon source for the MSM; these sort of comments, revealing the "real" Larry, give him an exposure I expect he would prefer to avoid.

::grin::

You got it...

Lurker

Anyone take a look at anti-semitism over at DailyKOS?

"Isryale"????

Gary Maxwell

give him an exposure I expect he would prefer to avoid.

And yet his rewrite is as confrontational and rude? Is this not the work of a madman, who is choking the goose with regard to its gold egg production?

Lurker

We will soon find out how well of a job we did in getting more people see the "real Larry" so that he will join the phony show with Jason Leopold.

Semanticleo

"Until then you haven't done diddly, you've still slandered our gracious host and this board."

You've obviously mistaken me for someone who
GAFF what you think.

Lurker

Gary:

"FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 16, 2006
Contact: Gretchen Essell
(512) 477-9821

CD 22 Lawsuit Moved to Federal Court

AUSTIN — In response to the frivolous lawsuit filed last week by Democrats regarding the Texas Congressional District 22 race, the Republican Party of Texas has removed the case to federal court.

“Democrats cannot have their cake and eat it too,” said Republican Party of Texas Chairman Tina Benkiser. “If Democrat plaintiff trial lawyers want to raise federal issues under the U.S. Constitution, they cannot then seek to have them decided in the liberal state court of their choice.”

Last week upon receiving public records of Congressman Tom DeLay’s recent move to Virginia, Chairman Benkiser declared DeLay ineligible to run for reelection in Texas on the November general ballot. Two days later, Democrats, as usual, ran to court attempting to win there what they cannot win at the ballot box.

Rather than filing in the correct court, Democrats conveniently chose to file in the liberal 201st District Court in Austin. The state judge granted a temporary restraining order to keep Republicans from following the legal process set forth in the Texas Election Code to replace Congressman DeLay on the November general election ballot.

“Republicans want to ensure that voters in Congressional District 22 are given a choice of candidates in the fall,” said Benkiser. “They deserve a chance for a conservative voice in Congress, and we are confident that they will have one.”

Sara (The Squiggler)

This is not the argument that many posters are presenting. Most posters don't have a problem with the spouses becoming activists.

The problem has to do with their reasons, rationale, opinions, that they became activists for.

No, no, no. They have every right to have their own reasons to become activists. A pretty good right, actually. What they don't have a right to do and what Coulter calls them on is cloaking their activism in their victomhood and saying, "you can't touch me, you can't question me" because I'm a victim. Once they become advocates and start making campaign commercials for a political candidate, they become a campaign strategy and whatever they say should be subject to scrutiny and argument by the other side.

clarice

Thanks, Brenda.

Lurker

Thanks, Sara, that's what I am trying to say.

Lurker

OT but chilling enough!

Sue

I understand what Coulter is saying. Like Kerry and Murtha wrap themselves in their service. Untouchable. Any criticism of them is off limits. I truly understand the point she is making, I just cringe when I hear it.

Extraneus

Off-topic, but a great point from Mark Levin tonight(http://www.wabcradio.com/listenlive.asp). I'm paraphrasing:

"The libs are all up in arms about the NSA knowing about patterns of numbers involved in international phone calls -- not listening in to the actual conversations, mind you; just knowing which numbers called which others -- but yet they have no problem whatosever with the amount of information the IRS has on your personal activities. No, they need *that* information in order to redistribute wealth, so it's an essential intrusion on personal privacy."

Sue

I kid you not. Leo is over at Scary's having an argument with another moonbat accusing that moonbat of being a wingnut. Life doesn't get much better. On second thought, I need a life...

::grin::

Extraneus

"On second thought, I need a life..."

LOL!

(That cracked me up.)

But isn't tonight when Soylent comes out to play? This is obviously the thread to watch.

(Great article, Clarice.)

Jane

Scary Larry sounds jealous to me. He'd kill, or at least lie, to have half the brains of Rove and a fraction of the power. He's a wannabee; and the last vestige of a wannabee is the clawing nonesense he is currently trafficking. If anything else this seems to highlight the desparation of the left. After all they have had a very very very bad ten days. The yearly Kos konvention had no legs, not even a day thanks to Jason Leopold's "scoop". When Fitzy finally stepped up to the plate they realized they were toast. Then came Zarqawi and the President's trip to Iraq, followed by a number of "devastating" votes for the war. And last night william Jefferson accused the democrats of being racist.

So Scary Larry is left trying to hurt Karl Rove personally. Think about how dreadfully low that is. And what is worse for Larry is that he has no access to Rove, so he has to try and hurt him in cyberspace. It's like the little leaguer wanting to bean Roger Clemons. And scary Larry knows that. He's stuck with cheering minions, impotent haters huffing and puffing and having no impact on anything, anywhere.

These people are not contenders. They are not factors in any issue of any kind. Their defeat is utter and total as evidenced by the depths to which they have sunk. Their despair is of their own making, and something they justly deserve.

Sue

Actually, Scary had no idea anyone would notice him. His normal traffic flow over there consists of his loyal minions. They think he is God.

He can thank me and my posse for bringing him to justice. ::grin::

BumperStickerist

fwiw, Larry's a principal at BERG Associates and he's given testimony before the House Committee where, after reading his testimony, his meds were working.

His CV is up at Bergs. There's no mention of his NOC sting as a Wendy's Shift Supervisor though, at the time, the DPRK was considering westernizing some aspects of their society.

for those inclined - there are a great many Larry Johnson posts in the Groups Archive off of Google.

Do an advanced search function and trim out all the posts after, say, June 2001. Larry was all about the application of sweet, sweet military justice if diplomatic means failed.

Yes sir -- Larry 'Death From Above' Johnson's had a change-o-heart.

.

Rocco

Johnson told http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/23/dems.radio/”>CNN that he and Plame began training in 1985.

Johnson, a registered Republican who voted for Bush in 2000, said he and Plame have been friends since they began their training at the CIA in 1985.

And he tells Terrence Smith from http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/july-dec03/leaks_09-30.html”>PBS That he’s been an undercover analyst for four years.

But given that, I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency until I left the agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it.

http://www.jimgilliam.com/2004/01/vanity_fairs_profile_on_joseph_wilson_and_valerie_plame.php”>Vanity Fair claims Plame married her college sweetheart Todd Sesler after graduation and bided her time waiting to be accepted by the agency.

After Valerie graduated from Penn State, she moved to Washington, D.C., and married her college boyfriend Todd Sesler. She worked at a clothing store, biding her time, waiting for her acceptance from the C.I.A.

There must be a training program of some sort before one is allowed undercover status. This http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/cia/cia5.html”>website verifies that an average of 1-3 years preparation is required before one is advanced to The Directorate of Operations, the branch that runs covert operations.

As far as what you can expect in your training, much of it is kept secret for obvious reasons. But here's the general timeline for gaining admittance into the Clandestine Service Trainee Program. You'll go through an average of 1-3 years of preparation (during which you'll be both an Operations Desk Officer and a Collection Management Officer).
How could you be undercover for 4 years Larry?

OT…Didn’t a William Sesler run for the US Senate in PA?

Lurker

Charlie (Colorado)

Leo:

All I know is that intelligence is an aphrodesiac.

Then you're doomed to virginity, I guess.

Lurker

Berg Associates

topsecretk9

Read Seixion on Larry...

PeterUK

Most of Louche Larry's minions are CIA groupies,they sit at their keyboard wearing dark glasses and headscarves with a boot knife stuck down their Birkenstocks,hanging on every Larry's word.Threy probaly get smacked about a bit at school when they use the CIA jargon,"You moron,your barred!",but its a tough life for a boy nowadays.

Patrick R. Sullivan

'When have these women used their husbands as shields may I ask?'

When they told a New York Times reporter: ''We simply wanted to know why our husbands were killed,'' Ms. Breitweiser said, ''why they went to work one day and didn't come back.''

April 21, 2004.

Sara (The Squiggler)

Extraneus -- The question is: Who knows more about you? The NSA or Google?

Hint: the answer starts with "G"

PeterUK

"But given that, I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency until I left the agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it."

"Daddy,Daddy,where do you go every day?"

"I could tell you that kid,but then I would have to kill you".

"Larry!"..."Are you frightening the kids again?"

jforrik

Wow, Scary Larry went from the heights of joy at the Kos convention over last weekend and then two days later into the depths of utter despair when Rove was cleared. His lashing out at Rove in such a vile, vicious way shows me how much he knows he's lost.

Kate,
Scary Larry IS a groupie of Joe Wilson. Or is it of Valerie? Notice how fiercely he defends her. I asked Larry on his blog once if he is or has ever been in love with Valerie Plame. He didn't deny it, in fact I think I hit a nerve. He deleted the post without a word. How pathetic is he?

Sue

Peter,

Al Gore got Love Story...Scary got Jack Ryan? LOL.

Sue

How pathetic is he?

Rhetorical...right?

Jane

I wonder of The Berg Associates approve of Larry's hobby.

PeterUK

Sue,

"Al Gore got Love Story...Scary got Jack Sh-t"

PeterUK

This can't be good for CIA recruitment..

"How Ya Gonna Keep'em Down on the Farm,After They've Seen Larree".

clarice

Thanks. Extraneus--Carol reports that the Mamdaniya Marines no longer are shackled when out of their quarters!

Rocco

Every time they compare anyone to the Third Reich or Nazi's or Hitler, they diminish the horror of the Holocaust and demean the lives of six million Jews murdered in the camps of Germany!

Sara (The Squiggler)

Rocco -- they are the worst of the worst anti-semites and racists!

Extraneus

I finally got a good look at Murtha in action for the first time. I had to tear myself away from Emeril, but a guest host was sitting in for Olbermann, so I was able to actually stand watching the show for once. He doesn't seem capable of standing up to any but puff-ball questions, but that Murtha really has the tough ex-Marine act going on. Complete with references to Rove's fat ass and air-conditioned office.

"The only ones who want us in Iraq are the North Koreans, Chinese, and Iranians, because it depletes our military capability."

Oh right. Nothing to be gained by experience in an actual war, much less taking out an enemy. And of course, nothing about whether the Iraqis might want us there. Who cares about them, anyway? In fact, they were never once mentioned except to state that we need to leave in order for them to be able to "sort it out for themselves."

It's amazing that seemingly intelligent people fall for this.

Sara (The Squiggler)

Bottom feeders!

lurker

Errr....make that 11 million people, including the handicapped, retarded, maimed ones, Polaks, etc.

Glad to hear that the Hamdaniya soldiers are no longer in shackles while out for an hour. They need to be no longer shackled until they are proven guilty.

Sara (The Squiggler)

I know you probably all hate when I do this, but please visit Defeat Murtha and read what I've posted there and then please follow all the links. Maybe even send a dollar or two to Irey.

PeterUK

Then add the 20 to 23 million Russians that died.

PeterUK

Sara,Do link more often.

Sara (The Squiggler)

Thanks Peter.

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