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June 13, 2006

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MayBee

TS: I went out on the No Indictment limb and DWILKERS AND our Mascot Herbie did too!

It's true, you did!
I initially thought it was ridiculous, but Sue kinda had me convinced.....So I blame Sue. Next time I'm listening to you.

lurker

:) Give me credit for adding a new word to the next published dictionary!

Isn't Rove's Luskin's first name, "Robert"?

Other Tom

I think as a face-saving gesture, the Left ought to stage a charity frog-marching contest between Joe Wilson and Jason Leopold.

The bullshit about Rove's having cut a deal to cooperate is the funniest by far. He has testified before a grand jury five times without taking the Fifth. What more cooperation could he offer, other than answering every question he was asked?

I suppose this is the point at which I should acknowledged having predicted that Rove would be indicted. My glee remains undiluted, and I eagerly await the commentary of David Shuster, Chris Matthews and Olbermann.

ordi

Top,

Your dead on on this. It will never happen.

What I found interesting about Wolf's statement was this:

disclosure of Valerie Wilson’s classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter.

Note Wolf only says her status was classified NOT Covet or NOC. At least Wilson's lawyer knows not to lie.

Sue

Maybee,

Hey! ::grin::

How much crow makes you fat? I have to watch my figure, you know.

Patrick R. Sullivan

Kevin Drum keeps hope alive:

'Of course, it's still possible that Rove is cooperating with Fitzgerald in some other aspect of the case, but that's baseless speculation too. Wait and see.'

topsecretk9

Ordi

GOOD catch!

Noticed this unfortunately timed ode to Wilson at Firedoglake last night:

Late Nite FDL: Who’s Laughing Now

( fade in "Cher" music ..."If I could turn back time....)

Redcoat

I see David Corn has inherited his socialist fathers vacuous stupidity.

"the White House falsely stated that (a) Rove (and Scooter Libby) were not involved in the leak and (b) that anyone involved would no longer work in the White House."

The "leak" the White House spoke of was the original Novak leak, and Scooter Libby worked for Cheney,he did not work in the White House.

"Rove did tell two reporters (Robert Novak and Matt Cooper) about Joe Wilson's wife's employment at the CIA (undeniably classified information)."

From the beginning, the lefties have been claiming she was covert.

Classsified and covert are two differant things.

topsecretk9

So I blame Sue. Next time I'm listening to you.

Sue's kept me from walking off a wild speculating cliff a time or too, better keep her!

topsecretk9

too= two

jwest

Clarice,

Am I correct in assuming that Fitz has not seen the Cooper notes and drafts?

Sara (The Squiggler)

So I fall asleep last night with the TV still on and this morning I'm lying in bed and still mostly asleep when I hear a female voice say, "Rove vindicated." What? But before I can pry my eyes open, I hear more words, "President Bush foregoes teleconference with Iraqi Prime Minister and meets with him in Baghdad." WHAT! My eyes fly open.

GLOAT! GLOAT! GLOAT!

I get to since I said all along no indictment of Rove! You gotta love it! What a way to wake up!

topsecretk9

OK, I get to gloat too. I posted some weeks ago saying Rove wasn't going to be indicted.

Dwilk

Dying to hear from our intrepid Hooo-nd -- Herbie!

Sue

Sue's kept me from walking off a wild speculating cliff a time or too, better keep her!

Plus she looks so damn cute in her ear muffs.

Is there something wrong with me talking about myself in 3rd person?

::grin::

Semanticleo

How much crow makes you fat? I have to watch my figure, you know.

I hear crow is low in fat, except between the ears.

Sue

Truthout is starting to take a beating. Their posters (for the most part) are not happy campers...

Sue

Leo...Leo...Leo...

Blow it out your ear...I have a great sense of humor and love to play games with you, but enough is enough. Rove is not indicted. I ate my crow. Now...caw...caw...caw...fly away.

::grin::

clarice

jwest, what an interesting question! Time original provided them under seal to J. Walton. J. Walton ruled Libby was entitled to see that material now. I think it's a fair guess he has them and when he got them so did the prosecutor.

Since the Rove indictment depended very much on Cooper's testimony and Cooper was impeachable in Libby no matter what he testified, the production of those documents must certainly have weighed into Fitz' decision.

JM Hanes

Sue

I salute you and everyone else (including our own Cult's Dear Leader) who not only had the courage to take a position on R/S/S/F* but who have also actually proved willing to eat the necessary crow! I note you've asked for yours with jalapenos; I've always preferred mine served cold. Maybe that explains my own cowardly aversion to predictions.

*Pending

ordi

Top,

The late night FDL post proves "there is a sucker born every minute". LOL

Sara (The Squiggler)

Surfing around, found this at Wizbang ... LOL.

Re: sealed vs sealed

Well, I have my own sources in the Justice Department, and they tell me that "06 cr 128" is actually a civil case. It's actually "Abu Hamza al-Muhajir v. Abu al-Does 1-9."

LOL.

http://feeds.wizbangblog.com/WizbangFullFeed?m=1507

Semanticleo

Otis speculates on the wording in the Luskin
staement;

"The language used by Luskin strongly suggests that Rove got immunity in exchange for his cooperation (it is probably the same deal I have been suggesting was offered to Novak way back when. . . )Otherwise he never would have testified in the Grand Jury to begin with.

“Does not anticipate seeking charges” means that if Rove testifies at Libby’s trial as expected, and as his agreement no doubt provides for him to testify, (lawyers call it providing “ongoing cooperation”), then all will be well for him. But if he “goes sideways” on Fitz and testifies differently from what is now expected, he could be charged–w/perjury certainly, and his deal to avoid criminal liability in the larger conspiracy could be “off” as he could face charges in that as well."

Wildly speculative? I don't think so.

Other Tom

If Wilson files a civil action he'll have to submit to a public cross-examination under oath. Bring it on.

Dwilkers

The HerbMeister might make it over later when I get some time to wake him up TSK9. ;-)

topsecretk9

Something Strata says, that I agree with...


If Fitz still claims the evidence must be withheld, then there is someone else in the cross hairs. If there is it must be Armitage.

Addendum: Seems maybe there is something to the idea
Fitzgerald may be after Armitage after all:

With Rove’s fate now decided, other unfinished business in Fitzgerald’s probe focuses on the source who provided Washington Post reporter Bob Woodwind [sic] information about Plame.

Woodwind [sic] says his source, who he has not publicly identified, provided the information about Wilson’s wife, several weeks before Novak learned of Plame’s identity. The Post reporter, who never wrote a story, was interviewed by Fitzgerald late last year.

Ok, it is hard to put much stock in a news article that misspells Bob Woodward’s name, but if this is a sourced statement of the future for Fitzgerald then Armitage must be getting nervous (and a bit angry at one Marc Grossman). I actually speculated back on May 19th that Armitage might be indicted and the real target of Fitz.

arrowhead

Fitzgerald, who in my humble opinion is singularly unimpressive, has just signaled that he has no desire to join the company of other tarnished prosecutors such as Niphong and Earle.

Now, if he can find a way out of the Libby prosecution, he can go home and put an end to this sorry spectacle.

boris

Wildly speculative? I don't think so.

The clown gags on crow and spews barf!

Carol Herman

What a charade.

If there was a justice system in America worth discussing, Fitzgerald, NiFong, Earle and Sneddon would lose their licenses to practice law. And, not far behind would be Marsha Clark, because she's not even good enough to be employed by a government entity.

How come demerits don't count? Not for bad judges. And, not for bad lawyers.

Maybe, some day the Supreme's will stomp on these clowns? HOW? Well, according to those midgets on the high court the "triers of fact" can do no wrong. GIVE ME A BREAK.

From top to bottom, stuff has to be brought to better conclusions. Are we at the starting gate? I sure hope so.

It's not hard to change.

According to Steven Lubet ONLY 3% of civil cases even reach juries! FARCE.

The whole thing we've watched is a display of a broken system; whereby the prosecutors go out on limbs, trying to get INNOCENT PEOPLE to confess! I want this game to stop. And, ya know what? I don't think I"m the only American with these thoughts, now.

ed

Hmmmm.

1. Where on earth is the source of this speculation that Rove is turning state's evidence?

2. Where is the source that Rove is going to testify against Libby? Or Cheney? Or at all?

This is frankly going far along the Nonsense Trail.

JM Hanes

ticleo:

"Wildly speculative? I don't think so."

Keep hope alive! Who is Otis, and why is he so totally unaware that "Does not anticipate seeking charges" is the closest any Prosecutor still in possession of his senses will ever come to fully exonerating the subject of an investigation?

clarice

Macsmind says its Matt Cooper who may be on Fitz' hotseat. I don't know about that, but it sure wouldn't break my heart.

Sue

Was Rove on Fitz's witness list? IIRC, he wasn't.

Carol Herman

Here's another guess. As vile as the elites in the MSM are, they're not stupid. So they've got "polling data" they don't show us. When they saw outcomes on our mini June elections, they saw "da hand-ringing" bells setting off on the wall. How so?

The donks NOW fear November! This November!

Sure, you laugh at the stuff Kerry just tried to pull. And, that's the whole idea.

The speed of the Internet caught up with them.

Ann Coulter's book is selling like hotcakes.

There's nothing they can shoot down, now.

Haditha isn't My-Lie (Lai). And, the gaza beach explosion is Hamas; not the IDF. True. The Slimes get the first words out.

But it does them no good. Instead of camp followers they've got moonbats. And, finally, they're terrified.

Just like it must have looked when so many Edsels got stuck inside the showroom.

The donks are stuck with the label that they'll use "legal means" to win. (Nothing legal about what they're doing. But they use lawyers to do it.)

Just you wait. Even Hugh Hewitt gets to write Volume Two on this disgrace. Just wait for November.

MayBee

“Does not anticipate seeking charges”

Cautious wording. No more, no less.

topsecretk9

This comment over at Protien Wisdom is priceless:

Can we say that Leopold’s reporting lacked “Merritt?”

Thank you...thank you...you’re a wunnerful audience.

Rick Ballard

Cooper woudn't be bad but I'm holding out for Keller and Sulzberger dressed in tasteful felony orange. If disclosing classified information is a crime then those two ought to have their pictures on post office walls.

Semanticleo

The clown gags on crow and spews barf!

Your best comment from any post I've read.

Keep killin' them grey cells with mescal,
Boris ma boy!

ed

Hmmm.

Badum-bump!

MayBee

Futher predictions from me: Cooper isn't in Fitzgerald's crosshairs to prosecute (if he's in them at all). But Fitzgerald does have to know if Cooper's story is going to hold up when convicting someone of perjury based on his story.

If Cooper has done something wrong, it will help Libby but Cooper will walk.

warning if I am wrong: I don't look cute in earmuffs, but will eat crow with melted cheese.

jwests's question was fascinating to me, btw. I had always assumed Fitzgerald had seen Cooper's notes. If not, oops.

Gary Maxwell

Someone go ahead and tell Leo there really isn't an Easter bunny either. He apparently needs his bad news in large doses so he can screw up his corage to face reality.

Sue

warning if I am wrong: I don't look cute in earmuffs, but will eat crow with melted cheese.

Awwwww...we can look like anything we want in the world of cyberspace...trust me. ::grin::

paul

Can anyone name the last PR victory for dems? An election, an indictment, a popular agenda?

Is it Clinton surviving impeachment?

Semanticleo

JM;

Otis is a commenter. Is that relevent, or was the question rhetorical? (it's not the gift, but the thought, that counts)

MayBee

OK, I look as good in earmuffs as Sue and Valerie do!
How's that?

Semanticleo

Work calls. playtime over for now.

But you folks continue to stew in your own
proverbial juices. (as if you need any encouragement!)

Wallow in your own brand of reality and enjoy
the temporary respite from the karma you have enabled and soon shall reap. God Bless.

Sue

Puuleeeze...Valerie does not hold a candle to me in ear muffs.

Rick Ballard

It's not confidential purchased polling that's scaring the Dems (although Greenberg is rather dyspeptic), it's registration and turnout. The CA turnout for the primary was the lowest ever and one very clear probability as to why it was so low is general negativity toward politics.

California is no battleground so no effort was put into registration (outside of CA-50). That being the case, it becomes a laboratory as to what people are doing without much in the way of prompting. The results were nothing for the Republicans to crow about but they were much worse for the Democrats.

Thanks, in great part, to the unending shrillness, not to mention sheer stupidity, of the left.

Good job, Merrit - ride that pony into the dirt.

Jane

Macsmind says its Matt Cooper who may be on Fitz' hotseat. I don't know about that, but it sure wouldn't break my heart.

If it's Cooper doesn't most of the case against Libby go away?

It sounds as if Cooper has been the bad apple since the start. His father-in-law got him the job; he was new at it; his wife works for Hillary and now Haditha. He's off to a really rocky start.

Sue

Someone, anyone, I can find Libby's witness list but not Fitz's. Can someone help me out?

jwest

Since Fitz’s (imaginary) case against Rove hinged on Cooper, it fell apart as soon as he reviewed Cooper’s varied versions of the “truth” in the drafts.

Walton’s comments concerning Cooper were made strictly in the context of the Libby indictment. So, that portion of the case is about to be tossed out too.

Fitz’s problem right now is how to save his career. (Hint: Indict Wilson)

windansea

ahhhh...I love the smell of lefties whining in the morning...smells like victory :)

Mongol General: We have won again. That is good! But what is best in life?

Mongolian trainee: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcon on your wrist, wind in your hair!

Mongol General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?

Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!

Mongol General: That is good.

Jason Leoplod

You fools,it is obvious that Rove has cut a deal and rolled over on Bush,that is why Bush is seeking political asylum in Iraq.

windansea

Ok, it is hard to put much stock in a news article that misspells Bob Woodward’s name, but if this is a sourced statement of the future for Fitzgerald then Armitage must be getting nervous (and a bit angry at one Marc Grossman). I actually speculated back on May 19th that Armitage might be indicted and the real target of Fitz.

maybe Inman was right

Gary Maxwell

Work calls.

What? The car wash opens at 9:30 am?

Wallow in your own brand of reality

I was going to say the same to you.

...respite from the karma ...

And karma, karma chameleon to you as well.

Sue

Someone pass this on to the person keeping up with the Top Ten comments...

Truthout's contributions to the truth are invaluable. There are plenty of explanations of this situation that would exonerate Truthout on this one. Wait and see what shakes out. The jury is still out on the whole truth.

Carol Herman

It's interesting how candidates emerge.

JOHN BOLTON's stock just shot up as the nominee of the GOP come '08. Even with Iraq in the background, and immigration the top condendah for American concerns; Bolton will have all the "foreign affairs" experience necessary to make a majority of Americans happy.

Some day Rove and our President will be known as absolutely excellent poker players.

The other thing? Bush is not a lame duck, now. Nor had he ever been.

But the toll taken on the MSM is just delightful.

topsecretk9

If Cooper has done something wrong, it will help Libby but Cooper will walk.

I agree to a point...Woodward really was a huge blow to Fitzgerald and an education. All relevant reporters tried hard to not really hide their knowledge of Plame's **NAME** but that they were more knowledgeable and up to date (prolly cuz many of them had been in contact with WIlson prior) and the entire backstory before calling the WH for comments.

Really, the reporters have been trying to conceal they manufactured the **story** by letting WIlson shape the story.

Cooper's case...his collaborator talked to Wilson before Cooper was assigned to call the WH...You can almost hear Wilson telling Calbresi what the WH response would be, what to anticipate and proof they were lying and smearing him. And now Cooper has a GJ testimony problem within his drafts that Fitz did not have (REGARDING Libby)

And then Miller has Wilson's contact info in her notebook.

If anything, I think Fitz may be realizing all reporters were the sand throwers.

Jane

I don't think we are looking at any other indictments. What for? You can't indict someone for screwing up your case, or wishful thinking. Fitz has got himself a very boring he-said-she-said matter right now. It's a roll of the dice. My guess is that he will continue to try and narrow the playing field so that by the time it goes to trial it ends up to be much ado about nothing.

His problem is that he can't plead it out because it is far too high profile.

My guess is that Fitzy is sitting around wondering "how am I going to win this case?" a situation every lawyer has been in at least once in his career. On the bad side, when that happens, most of us come up with something.

clarice

Jane, 2 of the 5 Libby counts depend on Cooper.
Sue, I'd stop searching, If Rove had been on Fitz' witness list it would have been in banner headlines.
Rick, what an interesting analysis.

Carol Herman

OMG, Paul, what a question! When, indeed, was the last donk success? And, your answer: When Clinton evaded impeachment. PERECT.

Maybe, when his wife made NY Senator, would come in, in second place? And, now the NY GOPsters are letting her run unapposed. While Guiliani mulls the White House, by going around the country on speaking tours.

I think we're gonna have a very overcrowded market of speakers, coming up.

Sue

Clarice,

So that kind of shoots Otis' theory in the butt, wouldn't you say?

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/06/no_charges_agai.html#comment-18469926>Leo

Bill in AZ

Fitzgerald, NiFong, Earle and Sneddon

We prosecute and hang scam victims. Just bring it. No case too large or too small.

Gary Maxwell

Rick

Where are you finding even three lucid Democrats to read, interpret and understand CA 50? It was the perfect storm that never even came ashore. Paul Hackett redux. But they are not capable of that level of analysis from any vantage point I have located. It only if we swear a little more and a lot louder and organize a nude bike protest, the rest of the lemming voters will finally understand. And Pelosi wants to put Alcee Hastings in place of Jane Harman on Military Affairs? the gift that keeps on giving.

skippy

thanks for the link. as chs says, maybe there's a deal on the table, so we'll believe it when we hear it from fitz.

topsecretk9

SALT

Patches Kennedy pleads guilty to DUI...hmmm, I thought it was an prescription sleep aid?

Gary Maxwell

Ambien is what he claimed. Of course washed down with a 1/2 quart of Scotch its slightly more potent...

Carol Herman

I agree, Rick. It's not in the polling, but in the turnout. However, we're fed polling data when the MSM wants to spin.

As to Greenberg, the Jerusalem Post just ran a story that he had been polling the EU; where in previous years support for the Palestinians ran high. Only to discover a sea change. Especially among french citizens. (While Chirac makes believe nothing's changed at all. Just like our donks.) Anyway, Israel has garnered support WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING. Just by the turn of events.

Yes, turnout matters. And, if I remember correctly, on Cunningham's replacement, the first ballots counted were the absentee ones. (Since I vote absentee, I always thought these were the last to be counted! Since at some magic number they were useless to count. Significant differences occurring on election days.) Live and learn.

Does the GOP have better statistics with absentee voters willing to put the postage stamp on the envelope?

Sue

DUI--driving under the influence--can be drugs and/or alcohol. He is still claiming it was prescription drugs.

Jane

Jane, 2 of the 5 Libby counts depend on Cooper.

Clarice,

What are the other 3?

Charlie (Colorado)

"slimsy"

Nice word. Sort of a portmanteau for "slimy and flimsy".

noah

OT...JJ Redick who looks like a poster child for "goodie 2 shoes" arrested for DUI last night. Sigh.

Charlie (Colorado)

Gary --- Clearly we're thinking along the same lines. Wish I'd have read a screen further ....

Charlie (Colorado)

Wildly speculative? I don't think so.

Want to put a little money on it?

jwest

Jane,

Rove is cleared and half of Fitz’s weak case is about to be thrown out. I don’t think he is still harboring any delusions about winning.

He has recently had a career setback by indicting a victim in Chicago, and this fiasco might be the difference between being viewed as a “wonderboy” or a joke.

His only hope is to come up with high-profile convictions, preferably plea deals, and the only ones out there ripe for prison rape are Wilson and friends.

Other Tom

The "turn state's evidence" stuff is just priceless. Have these clowns been smoking the draperies? Rove has testified repeatedly under oath and has answered every question. What more could he possibly have to offer? Operation Keep Hope Alive is becoming more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

Rick Ballard

Gary,

CA-50 wasn't the story. Hell, it was a skirmish to begin with. The real story is dull as only demographics and morbidity tables can be dull. Demographics is to politics what logistics is to war.

Everyone loves stories about tactics and bold and daring (or shrewd) actions but its the timely arrival of the correct supplies that determine ultimate victory. The Democrats demographic supply trains are running very, very low.

topsecretk9

via Talkleft, Corallo sends the official press release with this little message...

Mr. Corallo added the following:

Jeralyn - it's over. You might want to tell Marc Ash and Jason Leopold that they are free to leave the "lockdown" on the 4th floor of Patton Boggs anytime they wish. Frankly, we suspected they were just there for the free donuts all along...

clarice

The supply trains are everything--usually--aren't they,Rick?

Jane, I don't want to go back to the indictment, but I think 2 of the remaining counts are Russert and Miller is in the 5th (Obstruction) count.

Gary Maxwell

Rick

Dont get me wrong. You and I agree that 06 is going to be a big disappointment for Libs. I just thought you had found some insightful dems. Thus your "scaring" comment. I sense no fear but a swagger that cant be backed up by any rational analysis. If they were afraid it might go a little better for them, but they would have to give up eating their own like with Lieberman and make him a face of the Party. Fat chance of that happening, thankfully. The Republicans are not doing very well ( understatement here ). But if the choice is between John Conyers, Murtha and Pelosi and Republicans - we will do just fine.

Other Tom

Jerralyn Merritt at TalkLeft quotes Luskin today as follows: "There has never, ever been any discussion of a deal in any way, shape or form." Unlike the remainder of the delusional left, she unequivocally throws in the towel. And by the way, she calls on the poor fool Leopold to out his sources.

Gary Maxwell

Other Tom

Assuming he has any other than a few sock puppets. He just made the shit up period. He was not lied to, but instead is the liar extraordinare.

Carol Herman

IF Fitzgerald can keep this going until the Fall, we'll get to see "the Aspens turning in clusters."

Bush is a wonder at poker. The poker face, and his approach to the MSM has been a dynamic contributor to victory.

And, the Internet SOARS! Clarice, you've got a wonderful reputation built on this venue.

topsecretk9

this from Spectator

Re: Enemies List - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 @ 11:59:36 AM Prowler: Let's not forget Joe Wilson in the catalog of losers. I have a reporter friend who was standing next to Wilson when Jason Leopold's bogus scoop that Rove's indictment was imminent flashed on Wilson's Blackberry. Wilson, goes the hearsay, was enthusiastic and utterly credulous-- when a prominent liberal columnist involved in the conversation (rhymes with Smellanor Swift) wondered if TruthOut.org was a reputable source and the story could be trusted, Wilson declared firmly, "It's true."

How do you suppose he reacted this morning?

Posted By: John Tabin


clarice

Thanks, Carol.

topsecretk9

Also...does the Prowler drop a little hidden bomb in this? See if you can catch it too...


Enemies List - Tuesday, June 13, 2006 @ 9:48:17 AM

Now that Karl Rove has been cleared, let's consider who the winners and losers are:
Jason Leopold? Hopefully one of his "sources" close to the Joe Wilson investigation will let him in on the news. Loser.

David Schuster of MSNBC? The "reporter" regularly stated that Rove would be indicted. He cited sources close to the investigation and according to our sources, despite speaking with Rove representatives who were forthright with him, knowingly put forward to the public inaccurate information. Loser.

President Bush? Winner.

Republicans? Winners

But perhaps the biggest losers are those inside the White House who spent the last eight months working against Rove and his supporters, thinking they might emerge on top. They were wrong, and they should be made to pay.

Posted By: The Washington Prowler

Gary Maxwell

The Left keeps demoralizing themselves. This whole Rove indictment thing was just made up and should never have been revived by the moonbats. But now they get another adrenylin hangover with an agonizing low. At some point, some of their ilk will just tune out and drop out. They have plenty of aging hippies to show them how that works.

verner

The Wilsons are thinking of bringing a civil case. HAHAHA. Yeah right. And the DISCOVERY will be delicious! Not to mention the counter suits.

Rick Ballard

I hope so Gary, but evidence of them knowing when to fold'em is scarce.

I'll bet the Riviera comps the Kos shindig next year just based on their take from the shrewd lefties who think that the 9/1 payoff on the hard eight is a sure road to riches.

verner

Marybee

"My bold prediction(s):

No more indictments in this case."

I think we have a winner. Fitz has found out so much more about the Wilsons than he knew last October I would guess. Wouldn't it be funny if he lurked on this blog from time to time!

I think he now realizes that he went walking in the cow pasture without waders and stepped into a big one. Now it's time to hose off his shoes and go home.

Javani

""""""To the EmptyWheel, who noted that a key point of the Monday status hearing on Libby was to resolve the question of how long Fitzgerald could hide evidence under the "ongoing investigation" blanket. Apparent answer - not much longer.""""

Apparently. And if it's over, won't Novak speak? Has any reporter called him up for his opinion?

But then, it's apparently. Fitz could say he is investigating Novak, whomever. Another item from his prosecutorial bag o' tricks.

Gary Maxwell

Drudge making big fun of Keith Olberman. Notes no mention of Rove no indictment story despite there being 26 stories by Olberman on the imminent indictment. Truth out gets mauled too. Standing by their story ( does Dan Rather run that place now?)

Sue

those inside the White House who spent the last eight months working against Rove and his supporters

Do I win a prize?

Javani

Verner:

""The Wilsons are thinking of bringing a civil case. HAHAHA. Yeah right.""

"They", meaning Mrs. Wilson, might have a somewhat tenable case on leaking her identity against the US government. A prima facie case, subject to many facts and considerations.

If Joe wants to open a defamation case, watch for a World War I style superbattle with much senseless carnage ending in a stalemate.

mark c.

the lawyer Fitzgerald looked hard
at leaks and issued a charge
but the more that he nosed
we found the media exposed
and hoisted by their own petard

steve

From Wilson's lawyer:
disclosure of Valerie Wilson’s classified employment status at the CIA


So if she wasn't covert, what makes her employment status at the CIA classified? Hows about her checks coming from the classified front company- Brewster Jennings...I'm telling ya, the more we see, the more this makes sense...

Sue

Mrs. Wilson, might have a somewhat tenable case on leaking her identity against the US government.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on Val to file anything. I suspect she is glad to have just gotten out of this looking somewhat like a victim.

Gary Maxwell

Rick

You seen this today? Found it linked at Huffpost. Warning on the source, Democracy Corps poll - so its probably a lot worse than they are letting on to the public - but here is money quote:

"...there has been no improvement in feelings about Democrats in this change environment; in fact positive views of the party have actually declined over the past few months."

So swear more and certainly louder and organize a nude bicycle protest. Thats the ticket.

Javani

"Truth out gets mauled too."

"Out" with the Truth! In with the lies!

C'mon TO, get on the phone with Novak. For a comment about Rove. Then ask about UGO. One measly question about UGO.

One measly question about UGO.

One question about UGO.

UGO.

UGO.

JM Hanes

TM

"We don't know either, but Sweetness and Light notes that the attached case number looks more like the civil suit involving the TIME subpoenas than it does the criminal suit. Of course, that only makes sense if someone messed up - why seal a case and then give it the appropriate (but supposedly secret) case number? And I can't quite get PACER to kick up the TIME file with that case number, but the "00128" is a match."

It looks to me like Sweetness & Light is referring to the very screenshots provided here weeks ago by none other than our on http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/05/granted_in_part.html#comment-17804380>topsecret(k9) weapon:

The abbreviated docket listing for Sealed v. Sealed is 1-06-cr-128. Officially it would be: 1:06-cr-00128 followed by the initials of the presiding judge.

TSK9 also provided a screenshot for the Time Inc. docket number which is 1:06-mc-00128-RBW. Note that RBW would be Reggie B. Walton.

I suspect the similarity in numbering is less significant here than it might appear. I'm not positive about what the "mc" in Time's docket number represents, but I suspect it stands for "Motion to Compel." What's important is that it does not refer to a criminal proceeding. The "cr" indicates that Sealed v Sealed does. In the nitpicking dept., the usual header for such a filing would not be "US v Sealed" but rather "USA v Sealed." Calling the case "06 cr 128", however, as Leopold did, was a mistake no "legal expert" would make. But I digress.

Two things intrigue me about Sealed v Sealed. I'm not sure of the origin of TKS9's screenshots, but the reason the public PACER site I've been using doesn't turn up anything on 1:06cr00128, is supposedly due to a technical glitch introduced with the system's new software installation a couple of years ago. For some, apparently unintended, reason it simply won't pull up docket info for cases involving a sealed defendant filed within the last few years. At any rate, that's the official story, although there was a pretty substantial brouhaha a year or so ago about a couple of cases which were essentially disappeared from the official docket -- while they were still ongoing!

The second interesting bit is that docket numbers are assigned in consective order by the date of filing. 1:06cr00127 was filed on 5/16/06 and 1:06cr00129 was filed on 5/17/06. That means 1:06cr00128 could only have been filed on May 16th or 17th, after the Leopold window -- which has a host of potential implications. It would certainly be helpful to know if RBW is the presiding judge. I personally wonder if the unusual Sealed v Sealed might relate to classified/national security concerns, but wouldn't it be a wonderfully bizarre twist if, after all of Leopold's what-else-can-I-get-wrong reporting, Sealed v Sealed turned out to be an Armitage indictment?

Javani

Sue:

"I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on Val to file anything."

Her case has the admirable disability that the leak profited her monetarily, the book deal e.g.

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