Karl Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, takes a victory lap with Anna Schneider-Mayerson of the NY Observer. He is not kind to the blogosphere:
Actually, it’s the media—not the prosecutor’s office—that he’s angry at, and especially the bloggers. Mr. Luskin was eager to portray the suffering of his client as a function of media attention and speculation, rather than real danger of a conviction.Mr. Rove, Mr. Luskin said, had fallen victim to partisans and—more importantly—the bloggers who became their enablers.
...“That is a function of the tension that there is now between the mainstream media and the blogosphere. On the one hand, it seems to me that the CBS National Guard stories were the poster child for the principle that sometimes the blogosphere keeps the mainstream media accountable, and it seems to me that this story is, if you will, the poster child for the fact that the blogosphere is itself often not accountable, and that there are a universe of folks out there who have got personal or political agendas who were masquerading as news sources. That is just as destructive in its own way, or more than the mainstream media’s insularity is on the flip side.”
Meanwhile, the Wash Times names names in the mainstream media:
Unfortunately, at times, some in the media sounded more like cheerleaders for Mr. Wilson, who said in 2003 that "it's of keen interest to me to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs." In October, New York Times columnist Bob Herbert referred to Mr. Rove as "the administration's resident sleazemeister, who is up to his ears in this mess but has managed so far to escape indictment"; in November he declared that Mr. Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, were "clowns" who had been "playing games with the identity of a CIA agent."
Keith Olbermann of MSNBC turned his TV show, "Countdown," into a veritable repository of misinformation: A Lexis-Nexis search shows that the subject of Karl Rove's demise was discussed 26 times on Mr. Olbermann's program. In an Oct. 28 appearance, Jim Vandehei of The Washington Post quoted "people close to Rove" who "are telling us that there's still a distinct possibility that he could be indicted, and that they probably will know soon." On the same broadcast, NBC News Correspondent Norah O'Donnell said that Mr. Rove "has come within a whisker of being indicted." But even though Mr. Rove had escaped indictment, Mrs. O'Donnell said it was still bad news, because he was still working at the White House: "In a way, it might have been even cleaner and more helpful to the president if Rove had gotten nipped with some minor level of indictment, so that you could just get rid of both of these people [Messrs. Rove and Libby] today." On the May 8 "Countdown" broadcast, MSNBC correspondent David Schuster said flatly, "I am convinced that Karl Rove will in fact be indicted."
How Chris Matthews escaped their lash I don't know.
O.T. Loved this bit over at (all together now) http://www.johnkerry.com/>JohnKerry.Com building up to the Senator's amendment on withdrawing from Iraq:
Lots of impassioned rhetoric on the Senate floor, and then The Vote on Mitch McConnell's preemptive amendment. 93-6 is what a moment of truth falling on a tin ear sounds like.
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 07:12 PM
I am sorry but I do not get Semanitcleo's point...4582 comments on JOM's stifling comment policy (which is to say, not a very strict one) then...PRETENDS to have been banned from JOM...at Larry Johnson - chief ban/deleter's site no less...
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 07:14 PM
Rick
I don't really know tape-wise; I took a flyer and answered from memory. :)
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 07:15 PM
Semanticleo's Officially banned from JOM link fixed
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 07:17 PM
well it's on Larry's "Luskin better prove Jason Leopold wrong with the mysterious letter" post
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 07:19 PM
Top Secret,
Seems the comments to that thread at NO Quarter are down for ...um...repair. They had to call Winston Smith in to throw a couple down the memory hole no doubt.
Give us a hint. The little twerp said he/she was banned here? Did you make a copy?
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 07:19 PM
ROFL!!
And when Murtha submitted a similar resolution last fall, what was the vote and who voted against it? Murtha, Feingold, and ?
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:20 PM
93-6 is what a moment of truth falling on a tin ear sounds like.
WOW
Posted by: Jane | June 15, 2006 at 07:20 PM
BTW, Rick Ballard, congrats on being a contributor to a brand new blog. It would be a nice breather from the radical and biased MSM.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:21 PM
HHHMMMMmmmm....Somalia's in deep trouble. Check Austin Bay's site. Why would we give Somalia "peace keepers"????
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:23 PM
"In the next 24 hours, it is likely that the Senate will vote on my amendment which calls for the withdrawal of American combat troops from Iraq by the end of this year."
It is always fascinating when politicians pull an arbitrary date out of a hat,why not "Troops out by Christmas","Troops out by the end of the financial year" or "When Pluto is in Uranus and Jupiter collides with Mars"?
Perhaps simply,Run away,run away".
Something more modest, like discussing a realistic timetable for the transfer of military operations to the Iraqis,how to withdraw personnel and equipment without resorting to helicopters lifting off Embassy roofs.
I realise that Kerry is good at the latter,but the man could do with a change.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 07:24 PM
Verner, here it is...
Now that I'm offically persona non grata @JOM, guess I'll have to peddle my lefty wares
at this site.
Hat tip to Sue, TopeSec and Sad for the introduction.
BTW; With all the complaining about being banned, it seems you are all alive, and well and testy as ever.
It may be little easier to discuss things such as;
Sue;
You said I should be more civil and not lump you in with the trolls. I tried my best to apologize, but you lacked the graciousness to accept the olive branch by saying I misunderstood your point. My apology went directly too your point. You are an intelligent person, so I have to assume you understood the clear statement I made. I did not equivocate in my culling you from the mavens of vitriol @JOM.
But thanks for your sense of humor. :::grin:::
Posted by: Semanticleo | Thursday, 15 June 2006 at 13:10
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 07:24 PM
OT for Clarice -
Is it possible I know you from another board under a different name?
Posted by: AMDG | June 15, 2006 at 07:24 PM
--mavens of vitriol @JOM.--
HAH.
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 07:28 PM
As for the recently discovered Zarq document recommending the use of media to help AQ win against USA, Strata-sphere has a few posts.
Translation
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:30 PM
AMDG, It may be.Whisper the name in my ear, and I'll tell you.
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 07:33 PM
Hey, It's working.
The best from the two faced liar Leo--who did NOT get banned. Whoooaaa tough guy!!:
It IS a logical possibility.===========
Sue;
Perhaps you can tell me.
Why do you refrain (perhaps I missed the nuanced reference)
from making such a trasonous
comment @JOM?
You see, I am what is known, in the parlance, as
a sh--kicker. That's someone who, when finding a nice pile of dog poo on the sidewalk, tends to kick it rather than walk around it.
When I don't agree, I say so. Fear is a mind killer.
Posted by: Semanticleo | Thursday, 15 June 2006 at 14:27
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 07:34 PM
This is Scary's latest...
What a pig.
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 07:34 PM
Scary Larry said that at his own site.
Oh, give me a break.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:36 PM
You know for all the bitching about how horrible Rove is, when you ask lefties what he's done that was so awful, they can never come up with anything.
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 07:36 PM
--mavens of vitriol @JOM.--
Coming from the Termagant of Tergiversation that is rich.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 07:37 PM
Yo Rick!
Speaking of directions, per Lurker, are you blogging from a new location in the blogosphere?
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 07:37 PM
Verner,
That stemmed from the inability to quote a person at Scary's place without it looking like your own words. He thought I was a chicken over here. ::grin::
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 07:38 PM
Clarice
Rove's responsible for making Bush responsible for all our woes, of course!
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 07:38 PM
Sue, Don't insult pigs. Larry's more like what exits the pig after it eats the slop.
PS Want to take bets on whether or not he'll answer the Leopold question?
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 07:39 PM
LJ is a very nasty person as demonstrated by the comment above. Why is he such a hanger-on in the Plame case. He almost seems like a groupie. Not sure what motivates him.
Posted by: kate | June 15, 2006 at 07:39 PM
Thanks Lurker, AP Watch (soon to be AP/Reuters Watch) is a currently a feature at Flares. We'll see how it does before deciding whether it will become a new blog or whether content will be shifted to a wiki after being blogged at Flares..
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 15, 2006 at 07:39 PM
"Karl is a shameless bastard. Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out."
This is obviously why Larry got kicked out of the CIA and never saw a real operation,the man has fatal character flaws.He has no control over his temper,no judgement,he is a moral weakling.Scary Larry? Big girls blouse more like,real men don't say things like this.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 07:43 PM
JMH, as for political topics and news, the answer is no. I like to lurk around and try to keep up with the news.
I just read at Wizbang that the House Resolution 861 is being debated on CSPAN. This resolution declares support for the war in Iraq and our troops. Rep. Sherrod Brown just finished speaking.
According to Wizbang, those on the angry, conspiratorial, and anti-war left are in fits.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:44 PM
Top,
Do me a favor an go over to Scary's and do a screen shot of that article where he mentions Rove's mother. MSNBC is not taking kindly to insulting emails. They might be interested in how one of their pundits runs off at the mouth.
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 07:49 PM
Damn that Rep. Eliot Engel!!
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:52 PM
Did anybody get the screenshot of Larry's comment? If so, think we should send it to a few choice blogs. Sweetness and light pops into mind.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 07:53 PM
MAHMOUD Ahmadinejad really is scary!
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 07:55 PM
To be fair to the leftist Larry, he did not claim that Rove killed his Mother, buried her with Jimmy Hoffa and made it look like a suicide.
The left is mellowing.......
Posted by: Patton | June 15, 2006 at 07:55 PM
I just saved the home page of LJ's site if that's what you want.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 07:59 PM
Lurid Larry the Prince Charming of the Bloggosphere.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 08:00 PM
I, too, have wondered at "Rove Rage." Byron York at NRO has an interesting take on this phenomenon.
"For Hamsher, a movie-producer-turned-blogger — her credits include Oliver Stone’s Natural Born Killers — the answer is that the CIA leak story is a story. “It’s got all the elements of a classic drama and the thrill of a gradually unfolding mystery,” she told an audience last week at the YearlyKos conference in Las Vegas. “It’s got superlative villains: the petulant boy-king, the sneering gimp of a vice president, and their Machiavellian henchman…”
Bush, Cheney, Rove — bad guys galore. But who — other than, say, a producer of Natural Born Killers — would want a story with only villains? Not the crowd at YearlyKos. “It’s also a story with a great hero,” Hamsher continued. “Several heroes, in fact.”
"Those heroes were, Hamsher said, seated beside her on the stage in a Riviera Hotel meeting room. The biggest hero of all, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, was there. So was former CIA analyst Larry Johnson. The Washington Post’s online columnist Dan Froomkin was there, along with National Journal’s Murray Waas. Finally, there were three bloggers — sometimes known as “Plameologists,” after Wilson’s wife, the former CIA employee Valerie Plame — who have made names for themselves writing about the investigation: Marcy Wheeler, Hamsher’s blogging partner Christy Hardin Smith, and Hamsher herself."
"They were there for a 90-minute discussion of the investigation and its related themes: the treachery and criminality of the Bush administration, the cowardice and submissiveness of the Washington press corps, and the courage and heroism of, well, themselves, in daring to expose it all."
Posted by: Lesley | June 15, 2006 at 08:00 PM
Thanks Lurker. I'm working on where to send it. If he doesn't delete his post, I won't need it. I just wanted a backup plan. He is known to delete stuff.
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 08:06 PM
If you use Mozilla Firefox, go to File->Save Page As and select the html option.
Similar with IE, only select "Save As".
And save it on your desktop or My Documents or My Pictures or wherever ya want.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 08:08 PM
verner
I sent a quote & links for Larry's piece over to Instapundit, but don't know whether I make his his worth-a-look email bin or not.
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 08:17 PM
--Top,
Do me a favor an go over to Scary's and do a screen shot of that article where he mentions Rove's mother. MSNBC is not taking kindly to insulting emails. They might be interested in how one of their pundits runs off at the mouth.--
Sue
Got it!
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 08:22 PM
JM,Same here,Roger Simon,LGF and Powerline.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 08:26 PM
Send it to Byron York and Jonah Goldberg!
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 08:28 PM
Rep Gregory Meeks believs in the lefties news.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 08:32 PM
Wow.
Larry Johnson. Exposed.
Jumped the Shark.
Posted by: Chants | June 15, 2006 at 08:34 PM
Hey, why not send it to that Tom Maguire fellow? I hear he writes about Plame stuff sometimes.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 15, 2006 at 08:35 PM
This just in, per Paula Zahn (don't ask): House Dems vote 99-58 to "temporarily" force Wm Jefferson off the Ways & Means Committee. Guess there are a lot more tin ears in the House than the Senate, but then maybe we knew that? Jefferson says his colleagues have no reason to suspend him.
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 08:37 PM
Rep Corrine Brown - another extreme lefty.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 08:39 PM
Hey, Lurker, you asked about that Murtha cut-and-run resolution. Actually, I don't think that ever got voted on. The Republicans, for some reason I don't get, came up with their own version of it, which not even Murtha voted for. Same as today, with McConnell doing his own version of Kerry's instead of letting the Senate take up the real thing. I don't understand why the Republicans provide these guys with the plausible deniability they get from complaining that the wording was different, but apparently there's a good reason.
Posted by: Extraneus | June 15, 2006 at 08:41 PM
Rick
"Hey, why not send it to that Tom Maguire fellow?"
Not sure whether I make TM's worth-a-look email box either! But seriously, I thought he was just here, when it came up -- didn't realize till walking backwards now that a couple of hours had gone by. Yikes!
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 08:44 PM
JMH,
While he was here he made a comment from which I inferred that the horror of the blank page was affecting him.
I'm hoping for a piece on the command influence aspects of the statement made by the Staff Sergeant's attorney [BROAD HINT] but hammering Larry for a bit would be justifiable - not to mention just plain fun, dang it.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 15, 2006 at 08:56 PM
Cleo;
I do not fashion myself as a maven of vitriol and I believe we engage in civilized discourse on this blog. Generalizations about groups of people are usually false. Not everyone can achieve the hitting below the belt status of LJ. He's just sore because he's not a big important CIA guy anymore he's just an out and out traitor. Not many perks come with that occupation. Only the occasional stint on a Kos panel with like-minded dunderheads.Oh ,I'm sorry was I making a generalization there...
Posted by: maryrose | June 15, 2006 at 08:57 PM
Extraneous
Basically it's to prevent the the Democrats from framing the issue and arguing it at any length either in the press or on the floor. You present an amendment that has zero wiggle room and which ostensibly forces everybody to put their money where their mouths are, before they can take advantage of the moment. If decisively defeated, it makes it all that much more difficult to revive the issue further down the road. The benefits of being able to fling a 93 to 6 vote against withdrawal in Democratic faces will long outlast the effect of any temporary media interest in the resulting expressions of indignation
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 08:58 PM
I think we should just send it to everybody--MAC, AJ, FR, Sweetness, LGF, Lucianne--you name it. It will be one to add to the arsenal exposing his sorry ass.
They (Larry and his comrades) don't like Rove cause they think he's mean? They don't like Ann Coulter cause they think she's mean? I don't ever recall either of them doing someting so vicious, cruel and heartless as to imply that a woman's suicide was caused by her son. It is disgusting beyond belief.
Everybody should know about it. And every time Scary shows his ugly face on TV, or his name appears in print, we should remind the world of what a psycho "hater" he is.
Combine that with his close personal relationship with Leopold, and the kooky LaRouche/anti-semitic contacts the VIPS have, and even Shuster won't be returning his calls. He will be histoire!
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 08:58 PM
Hey Clarice--I left off American Thinker! I think it's worth a blog. Expose Larry in all his glory as the rabid Rove hater he is!
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 09:00 PM
Larry's hatred comes not from strength but from weakness,he can only assert himself via anger and insulsts ,a most pathetic man.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 15, 2006 at 09:05 PM
"I do not fashion myself as a maven of vitriol and I believe we engage in civilized discourse on this blog. Generalizations about groups of people are usually false. Not everyone can achieve the hitting below the belt status of LJ."
You're so sweet MB, but don't kid yourself.
The people you are referring to think Fidel Castro would be a better president than George Bush. Nuf said.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 09:06 PM
I blogged the screen capture of Johnson's garbagehere. Anyone who wants to grab the image is welcome to do so.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 15, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Send it in verner..
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 09:18 PM
JMH, thanks. But just like the fact that we can point to Murtha's and Kerry's votes for the AUMF resolution, if we never get them to vote for the pull-out resolutions they've proposed, they'll still have that deniability after whatever success we ultimately achieve. "I was always for redeploying, similar to what we're doing now, which in fact was actually my idea!" I accept that there's an upside to the Republicans framing their resolutions, but why not just give them a length of rope and see what they do with it? What's the worst that can happen?
Posted by: Extraneus | June 15, 2006 at 09:19 PM
Oh well, at least Kerry was man enough to vote for it. :-)
Posted by: Extraneus | June 15, 2006 at 09:23 PM
Sweetness & Light picked up the story. http://sweetness-light.com/
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 09:25 PM
93-6 is what a moment of truth falling on a tin ear sounds like.
I second Jane. Wow. That sentence is a work of art.
Posted by: MayBee | June 15, 2006 at 09:26 PM
WAY TO GO SWEETNESS! Stick a fork in Larry. After this, he's DONE.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 09:31 PM
Lucianne has the LJ bit (from S & L)as a must read!
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 09:44 PM
OK, anybody got Howie Kurtz's e-mail at the WAPO? We're only getting started! LOL
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 09:46 PM
There's a certain line that civilized people never cross. Going after someone's mother is one of them.Only an angry disillusioned schmuck would do that. LJ seems to fit the bill.
Posted by: maryrose | June 15, 2006 at 09:52 PM
Well, it came at a good time. Lucianne invites her readers to compare this with Coulter's heated rhetoric.
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 09:53 PM
"That sentence is a work of art" Agreed Maybee!
Posted by: maryrose | June 15, 2006 at 09:54 PM
Coulter"s book is number1 on the NYT Best Sellers list. My husband is reading it now.
Saw her on H and C; she knows how to defend herself and come out swinging.(9/11 Wives on the cover of a magazine-bad form.
Posted by: maryrose | June 15, 2006 at 09:57 PM
OK, I sent the link from sweetness to Byron York. That should give him a chuckle.
I'm not registered at the WAPO for some reason (thought I was) If anybody has a spare moment, try to send an e-mail with a link from sweetness's blog entry to Mr. Kurtz, along with a little note asking him if Larry is the type of person the Post thinks is a credible source. Geez, they use him all the time.
Next would be Mr. Abrams, the new chief at MSNBC.com. Does Larry still show up there? I don't watch it, so I don't know.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 09:59 PM
Re: Linking that LJ post everywhere...AWESOME!!
Wonder what Luskin is thinking about that post.
Good to spread it around for more people to see the real LJ.
"That sentence is a work of art" Agreed Maybee!"
:-) I don't think you'll find anyone that disagrees with "that sentence".
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:00 PM
Oh, oh, oh!!
Why not send that LJ link to Ann Coulter?
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:02 PM
And Michelle Malkin. Forshure, she'll put up the link! Ultimately, it just might...crash his site!
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:03 PM
DRUDGE! Why didn't I think of that!
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:07 PM
You are on a roll, verner!
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:09 PM
I don't understand the comment about the lack of support of veterans made by one of LJ supporters:
"
MAA are you out of your mind when you say?: "Murtha and Kerry are not patriots. Patriots love their country."
You are as bad as Rove. What have/did/are you doing to serve this country?? Not much, IMHO, from your lack of support of veterans who have actually worn the uniform. Not only do these men love this country, but they are willing to stand up and take the abuse of the sheeple like you who can only repeat rover's latest talking point. God Bless them for continuing to stand up for the truth.
Posted by: PrchrLady | Thursday, 15 June 2006 at 22:05"
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:13 PM
Sent to tips at Hot Air and Drudge. But since sweetness and Lucianne are widely read in the conservative world, know they'll see it anyway.
If that hateful bowl hair cut jerk ever appears in print or on TV again, we're ready.
Dumb and Dumber indeed.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Oh, here's another laugh. Some guy named Chris at No Quarter told me that it was widely known who sent Joe to Niger. Is that news to you folks? I'm sure I would remember if that particular individual was named in print. Wouldn't you?
Oh, I get it. Chris still thinks Cheney sent Joe!
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:20 PM
--bowl hair cut---
HEH
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Hey Allahpundit picked it up on Malkin! Go Baby go!!
OK, Sean Hanity and Rush are next. Larry is going to be moe than a ledgend in his own mind--but not for the reason he thinks! LOL
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:26 PM
I don't see the link at hotair or malkin.
Yup! But then we'll be reading of the EW / EH / FT / TL / TO defense....
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:29 PM
I can't flippin sign in at sweetness and light...but someone should comment and have him bold
--Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out. --- this too
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Ah, now I find it under "Coulternamia! AC's latest shockingly vicious mockery of someone’s personal tragedy
with a "Not quite" link to S & L.
S & L may be bogged down.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:38 PM
You guys are something else. I just send my stuff to people who delete the emails. ::grin::
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 10:39 PM
TS,Allahpundit was sneaky. Hit the link about Ann Coulter's latest outrage at the top.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:39 PM
Yeah, I sent one email to Hugh Hewitt, which was subsequently deleted about two weeks later. I know because I request email recepient opened flag turned on.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:40 PM
I would've like Hugh Hewitt interview Thomas Sowell just once or twice!
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:41 PM
I meant to say that was in my email to Hugh asking him if he would consider interviewing Thomas Sowell. I think that would have been an awesome interview.
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:45 PM
Full copy of the LJ article, in case it gets deleted:
"Leave it to the Porcine Draft Dodger--Karl Rove--to impugn the character of combat veterans. Can't blame him for trotting out the same playbook that worked so well in 2004 against the candidacy of John Kerry. If it worked once it should work again.
Of course I am referring to Karl's speech Tuesday night to Republicans in New Hampshire. According to a piece in Wednesday's Washington Post:
In a speech to New Hampshire Republican officials here Monday night, the White House deputy chief of staff attacked Democrats who have criticized the U.S. war effort in Iraq, such as Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.) and Rep. John P. Murtha (Pa.), who he said advocate "cutting and running."
"They may be with you for the first shots," Rove said of such opponents. "But they're not going . . . to be with you for the tough battles."
Karl is a shameless bastard. Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out. It would be one thing if his vile tactics were simply mere smears of politicians like Kerry and Murtha. They are big boys and should be able to defend themselves quite ably against this turd. But Rove, like Josef Goebbels, has used fear and smear as his primary tools to keep George Bush in power. And to what end?
Let's start with Karl's participation in exposing the identity of an undercover CIA officer in order to divert attention from the fact that George Bush, over the repeated protests of the intelligence community, falsely claimed that Iraq was trying to get uranium from Niger. This was not just a human foible, a mistake. It was a bold lie used deliberately to incite fear and justify invading Iraq. They could not afford to admit their lie so they let George Tenet take the blame.
Rove did not stop there. Conflating Saddam with Bin Laden was part of his Fear Factor America campaign. He helped convince most American's that Saddam was in bed with the man and the group who attacked us on 9-11. I give him credit for doing masterful deception operations, but I loathe what he did to America and its standing in the world. The fear of Bin Laden and the fear of nuclear Iraq were the key ingredients for the war fever Rove helped whip up.
Now, if fat Karl had been at the head of the line to enlist in the Army and help lead the invasion, I wouldn't be so cranky. But he didn't, and Cheney didn't, and Wolfowitz didn't, and Rummy didn't and the Bush daughters were busy getting drunk in DC bars. What is it about Republican chickenhawks who played every angle during the Vietnam War to avoid going to war but have no hesistation to start a war in Iraq and send other peoples children into the fray?
We are now embroiled in a civil war in Iraq where we are busy killing Sunni insurgents while helping Shias with close ties to Iran consolidate power. Most Sunnis are convinced we want to exterminate them. As a result we will remain a main target for Sunni terrorism for at least a generation. Thanks Karl. At the same time, Karl is helping whip up new war fever against the new enemy in Iran. If you oppose invading Iran you hate freedom and are selling America's freedom to an Islamic Adolf Hitler. At least that's what Karl wants you to believe.
Karl and the Bush Administration have consistently used the threat of terror, the threat of Saddam, and the war in Iraq as a political club to destroy their opponents and to consolidate their power. Retired Marine General Mick Trainor, along with Michael Gordon, has chronicled this cynical policy in their book, COBRA II. This is no longer a matter of opinion, it is a documented record of fact.
When decorated war veterans like John Murtha and John Kerry dare to challenge the incompetence of the Administration in its prosecution of the war in Iraq and its wildly chaotic counter terrorism policy, Karl and many Republicans respond by accusing them of being soft on communism, oops, excuse me, I meant terrorism. I for one am fed up with these tactics and will fight back. Karl and his ilk are getting America's sons and daughters killed in Iraq and in Afghanistan. He compounds the horror by wrapping himself in their blood and their sacrifice, claiming that only Republicans genuinely care about the troops. Yeah, the Republicans who sent our troops to Iraq with insufficient forces, with inadequate body armor, and with non-existent planning for the aftermath. And Rove has the balls to blame Democrats for this debacle? No dice fat boy.
The time has come to say enough. This is not about Democrat, or Independent, or Republican. This is a fight for the soul of this nation. Karl Rove may have cut a deal to stay out of jail and avoid prosecution, but that does not free him to attack the patriotism of Americans who care deeply about their country and its security. I will guarantee you one thing--Karl's mom would not be proud."
Posted by: Lurker | June 15, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Don't worry Lurker. Sweetness is widely read by some of the big guys. The Washington Times quoted him in an editorial this week over his excellent work on Haditha--which was then picked up by Limbaugh.
We've lit the spark, now let's see how far it gets.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Belated thanks to the folks who enjoyed the tinny truth!
"I just send my stuff to people who delete the emails. ::grin::"
Me too, Sue -- And I've even got this ab fab set of ear muffs....
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 15, 2006 at 10:58 PM
I think TM will never leave us unchaperoned again.
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 11:01 PM
--Full copy of the LJ article, in case it gets deleted:--
NOT-A-CHANCE!!!
(3 links above)
Whoo Baby...last day of school for an eleven year old boy and um the phone has been off the hook with little girls OMG! Yikes!
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 11:15 PM
oops Chance
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 11:19 PM
Byron York has it. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzgwOTZhYjJhM2JmMTBiMjVhZjkwY2UzMGIzMTk0YjU=
Posted by: clarice | June 15, 2006 at 11:21 PM
TM can not be blamed.
Besides, the only person Larry has to blame is himself. All we did was make what he wrote himself widely known to people who would never think to open his foul blog on their own. Indeed, Larry should thank us for the traffic! I'm sure that it will be more than he has ever gotten.
Posted by: verner | June 15, 2006 at 11:22 PM
and the hits just keep on coming...Jeff Goldstein rips Larry and um the caring left
http://www.proteinwisdom.com/
YES!
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 11:22 PM
---When you care, it’s okay to say “controversial” things….
... Because, well, sometimes that’s the only way you can get people to listen. And we all know that the problem with the message of anti-war ideologues isn’t that voters have consistently rejected it (hell, even those who’ve embraced it reject it when push comes to shove); rather, it’s that they simply won’t take time out to really listen to it. The stupid, stupid, stupid, stupidheads!
But that’s all gonna change if former intelligence professional Larry Johnson has anything to say about it—he of the al Qaeda isn’t a threat / Rove will definitely be indicted “intelligence” reporting, who just tonight has this to say about Rove, who it turns out probably won’t be indicted after all:
Karl is a shameless bastard. Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out. It would be one thing if his vile tactics were simply mere smears of politicians like Kerry and Murtha. They are big boys and should be able to defend themselves quite ably against this turd.
[my emphasis]
”Small wonder his mother killed herself. Once she discovered what a despicable soul she had spawned she apparently saw no other way out.”
This, my friends, is the face of the modern deranged leftwing of the Democratic party—where a former intelligence officer writes publicly that a Republican strategist’s inveterate evil was responsible for his own mother’s suicide, and where even the spokesperson for the last presidential candidate is unhinged enough to suggest, on the record, that Karl Rove should be concerned about getting cornholed in prison.
And yet these people—thanks mostly to their enablers in the press—are often trotted out as serious critics of the administration, and seldom shown for the vile and vicious anti-intellectual thugs that they are. Whether it’s Howard Dean calling Republicans evil and saying he “hates” them; or John Murtha convicting soldiers of murder in advance of a full investigation; or a low-rent castoffs like Johnson, who the MSM routinely turns to when they need a good anti-war intelligence source, mustering up the guts to say that Karl Rove is responsible for his own mother’s suicide—the bile is there for all to sample, if only the MSM weren’t so good at controlling the information flow.
But the question is, how long will the legacy media be able to keep a lid on this stuff now that the information superhighway has so many toll free lanes? They’ve shown time and again that they’re willing to insulate their ideological fellow travelers. Can we count on the American electorate to overcome what one media professional once suggested was good for 5-15% points in the polls?
****
(h/t topsecretk9 and corvan, via email; see also, STACLU and Sweetness and Light)---
Posted by: topsecretk9 | June 15, 2006 at 11:25 PM
LOL. Larry won't know what hit him. You think he will be happy he let me back in? ::grin::
Posted by: Sue | June 15, 2006 at 11:25 PM