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June 08, 2006

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clarice

Iowahawk's racy take on Z:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2006/06/paradise_blows.html

Jane

BTW has anyone read Jim Miklaszewski's piece for MSNBC today?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

Predictably he blames Bush for the victims of Zarqawi, but amazingly he admits:

1. Al Qaida was in Iraq prior to the start of the war, and

2. They had WMD!

From the link: "In June 2002, U.S. officials say intelligence had revealed that Zarqawi and members of al-Qaida had set up a weapons lab at Kirma, in northern Iraq, producing deadly ricin and cyanide."

clarice

Update:Our forces raided 39 locations last night and the last thing Zarqawi saw was our special forces. http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/09/was-zarqawi-alive-when-us-troops-got-there/

lurker

39 more locations last night? Great! Hope that will slow down the insurgency dramatically. Think Iran and Syria will try and send more of their fedayeens and suicide bombers across the border? Hope those borders are not as porous as ours.

Tehehe, loved Rick Moran's post about Bolton. Will UN collapse like the League of Nations did? Apparently, UN hasn't learned from the collapse of League of Nations.

lurker

Clarice, you're mentioned at strata-sphere. Loved his response. Ain't Rick Moran and strata-sphere great?

lurker

crosspatch over at strata-sphere found this article:

US father visiting Haditha saw no sign of massacre

God bless our troops.

lurker

Wow, what an article from Andrew McCarthy regarding intelligence with its leak record. Check wizbang and NRO.

clarice

S & L notes Time has made some corrections to its original story and left some big lies in. http://www.sweetness-light.com/

cathyf

I read the McCarthy article. He's complaining that leakers bragging about our intelligence coup gave enough details that AQ will be able to figure out who our friend is. And even if they don't kill our asset, we'll have to extract him and spirit him off somewhere safe.

Well, uh, sure, maybe. Or maybe what we've been told about who ratted the Z-man out is clever disinformation. And AQ is being set up to go on a paranoid spy hunt and purge in their own ranks. Just remember -- every resource that AQ spends killing their own (real or imagined) traitors is a resource that they are not using to kill coalition soldiers or Iraqi civilians. And every AQ agent killed by their own side is one fewer scumbag that we have to kill.

cathy :-)

clarice

Yeah, Cathy, I'm with you on that one.

clarice

Yeah, Cathy, I'm with you on that one.

cathyf

Oops, shoulda put up the link: No Wonder Our Intelligece Is So Sparse [Andy McCarthy]

cathy :-)

Extraneus

I'm with Cathy, too. Maybe the guys in theater are good enough to disinform the bad guys and the NY Times (and maybe even their sources at Langley) at the same time.

cathyf

If I was going to list most-to-least gullible, the bad guys have to be least. Not sure whether the NYT or CIA wins the Most Gullible award, though. They are both pretty formidible competitors for the title.

Syl

That was my first thought, too, Cathy.

And my second. And third. ;)

Lurker

In reference to the Haditha articles, anyone happen to see the cartoon at lucianne.com?

Lurker

UGH!

Can you imagine this guy running the house?

Lurker

Another link about this guy

Lurker

The dems are planning to submit resolutions to pull troops out:

Troop Bills

clarice

Did you notice in the first shots of locals climbing over the rubble, one of the kids picked out a brand new teddy bear and held it up for the photographer? How often will the press be complicit in this propaganda?

Syl

The American citizens may be tiring of the war but as a whole, they're not ready to pull troops out yet.

The seem to understand the implications. Just like the Iraqis do.

The Dems are committing suicide with these proposals.

Lurker

Yeah, I saw that. With this teddy bear AND an attempt to show Zarqawi's bloody face before he was cleaned up. I thought it was mighty nice of our troops to make an effort to clean him up, remove him as quickly as possible; yet, our media HAD to ask Caldwell if showing that face was a violation of the Geneva treaty. Reading about how they felt our hated terrorist had to be cleaned up, would they do the same in reverse. No, they have not and will not ever. Our terrorists do NOT recognize the Geneva treaty and our media having the gall to ask this stupid question. I wonder what Caldwell thought about this particular question, in spite of the answer he gave.

Geeach, our favorite media continues to screw us and our troops.

And other bloggers are upset that ABC showed a photo of the captured guy that rattled on Zarqawi.

Anyone find any transcripts or comments to that YKOS's CIA leak investigation panel?

Lurker

"The American citizens may be tiring of the war but as a whole, they're not ready to pull troops out yet.

The seem to understand the implications. Just like the Iraqis do.

The Dems are committing suicide with these proposals."

Actually, I'm tired of the over-hyped, negative reporting by our favorite media. Wouldn't a more positive and accurate reporting boost the morale of our troops, speeding their return home?

Pulling the troops out before the "job is finished" is going to harm our troops in the long fun, especially after Vietnam War (won but lost later), Desert Storm (incomplete - boy, were people furious we pulled back on this one), Desert Fox (incomplete), and this war, if incomplete.

Cecil Turner

Better example is Mogadishu, which emboldened Osama and Al Qaeda. His first (and last) post 9/11 TV interview stressed it as a goal worthy of emulation:

"Our brothers with Somali mujahedeen and God's power fought the Americans. God granted them victory. America exited dragging its tails in failure, defeat, and ruin," bin Laden said.

maryrose

Thanks to Clinton Cutting and Running in Mogadishu the terrorists were emboldened. Later Clinton had Monica fever. The rest as they say is history.

Extraneus

Speaking of General Caldwell, I think one of the biggest mistakes Bush has made is to ignore the value of a charismatic theater commander. Like the "stuck on stupid" guy in New Orleans, Shwartzkopf last time and even Tommy Franks this time were able to keep the media at bay and the military focus on military events. (Who wasn't impressed by those beret-wearing body guards that used to escort Shartzopf to the news conferences?) Without people like them, it all too easily sinks into the muck of politics.

maryrose

loved the "stuck on stupid" guy in New Orleans, General Honore's dismissal of reporters who couldn't get their facts straight and insisted on beating a dead horse was classic.

windansea

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qa'eda leader in Iraq who was killed in a US airstrike this week, liked to start the day by reading the online version of The Daily Telegraph.

His hatred of the United States meant he did not trust American media reports, those close to the terrorist organisation say, so instead preferred British ones to gain a Western perspective on the war in Iraq.

In particular he tried to regularly read The Telegraph and The Guardian, either through satellite technology or through articles printed and delivered to him.

"Often instructions passed to his supporters included facts about the West that had come from these two papers," said Majed Hamid, an Iraqi reporter for Al Arabiya TV, who was detained by the US military for three months after coalition forces became suspicious of his close ties to members of Zarqawi's group in western Iraq.

"He considered both papers very authoritative."

bipartisankiller

windansea

got to agree with Zarq...I don't trust the US media either....

he would have gotten the impression he was winning

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