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July 02, 2006

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maryrose

Mark Steyn has an excellent column today about the the Supreme decision.
OT:
Penn and Carville are convinced Hil can win in 2008 if she runs.

Rick Ballard

Lance Corporal Hamlin is a wiser man today. I certainly hope that he has an opportunity to spend a few minutes alone with Filkins before Filkins departs. I'm sure that Hamlin's gunny will have a quiet chat with him regarding instructions about talking too much with subversives.

I would have said Goebbels rather than Hemingway.

Lesley

Well, well. Young, white, Christian, Southerner, hunter, uneducated, redneck, simpleton, killer. Was an article ever more honestly titled - "Suddenly, Sandbags and Potshots at Post 1" - ?

Sandbags and Potshots, indeed.

Lurker

And this is *THE* NEW YORK TIMES that published it?

Patrick R. Sullivan

maryrose is right about the Steyn column. It's the first time I've seen anyone state correctly the complete fiasco the decision is. And what it bodes for the future.

Frankly--and I don't say this hyperbolicly--the Gang of Five has committed an impeachable offense. Several actually.

1. They ignored the exceptions clause of the US Constitution in Art. III, sec. 2.

2. They applied the Geneva Convention's section on internal conflicts 'not of an international character' to the War on Terror (Hamdan being a Yemeni, captured in Afghanistan!) in an American court, when the GC isn't even judicially enforceable anyway (only diplomatically).

3. They usurped the Presidents CinC authority. As well as Congress's authority to write (or not write) the law.

ed

Hmmmm.

Looks like the NYT is trying to score some brownie points to offset the widespread calls for their collective heads on a platter.

Rick Ballard

Lesley,

I'm having a hard time deciding whether the article speaks more to the puerlity of the writer or that of his intended audience. Good agitprop is not terribly difficult to write. Many high school papers have budding journalists who could put Filkin's efforts to shame with their ability to achieve the same intent without resorting to crayon and butcher paper.

Are Times subscribers so pathetically stupid that they require this level of reinforcement? Or is this just the Seditionists Daily's (and Filkin's) Fourth of July present?

Gary Maxwell

MR

A clintonite and a ... well another Clintonite ( tis one from Hill's Senate campaign) think Hill is the perfect candidate. And get this if the irony meter will finally return off maximum, James Carville slobery attack dog explains that Hillary has a 42% negative polling but that is due to the Republicna attack machine. Mind boggling with the hubris it takes to get that out of his mouth.

Lesley

Rick, I am still seething.

With the adjustment of a few minor details, this same article could have been written about my own beloved eighty-two-year-old father as a young Marine medic slogging his way across the bloody Pacific during WWII.

As Ann Althouse put it, "why should we trust you, NYT?" Frankly, I don't. I perceive Filkens smugly and condescendingly reinforcing every liberal's stereotype of the military. Ok, I'll admit I'm overly sensitive and suspicious when it comes to anything related to the war/our military v the NYT. Rick, we both know the guns = hunting = killing animals = killing people connection is classic.

I discovered early on, as a young woman, sitting in a Nicholas Hawksmoor designed dining room on an estate in England with the most pompous of pompous asses, that "shooting" (shooting/birds v hunting/horses according to the Brits) pheasant and grouse with your matched Purdy's or Holland & Holland's was the height of sophistication, while some cracker in Georgia shooting at squirrels was something at which to snigger. Same with NASCAR v Formula 1, same with horse racing in Saratoga v a rodeo in Cheyenne.

Just goes to prove, you can take the girl out of South Dakota, but you will never take South Dakota out of the girl.

God bless you, Dad and Lance Corporal Hamlin on this Fourth of July. We are the land of the free because of the brave.

Soylent Red

Whatever the NYT was trying to convey with this article, I took away this:

Kids like Hamlin are the salt of the earth. These are real people with real hopes and dreams, put on hold for our collective well being. When I think of being 19, I didn't have nearly the burden he's got.

That's sobering to me, because I'm not used to "veterans" being my juniors, and conveying the gratitude and respect that goes along with being a veteran to people younger than myself. Gotta revise my notion of veterans as old guys who drink scotch and play bridge at the VFW.

I know I don't have to say it here, but still, let's make sure we take care of these guys when they return home.

Also, this 19-year old has done more in his short life than some snotty and condescending journo. All the honor and gratitude we give to veterans should have an equal and opposite parcel of disdain and ridicule for the journalists who try to put them down.

PeterUK

Mr Ballard,
"Are Times subscribers so pathetically stupid that they require this level of reinforcement?"

They are are they not,subscribers to the NYT?

maryrose

Kudos Soylent Red.
You certainly have a way with words. I am grateful to my friend's husband who is currently in Iraq, a friend's brother who lost his life in Vietnam and to my older brother who served honorably during the Vietnam war and is sending his youngest off to college this fall.

Davebo
maryrose is right about the Steyn column.

The column is what it is. A convoluted analysis of a highly technical legal decision made by a film critic.

maryrose

Hey Davebo:
We all should be so lucky as to string two sentences together that contain as much common sense as what Steyn turns out on a weekly basis. Again Davebo you shudder when REAL FACTS are presented. Why fear the facts? The truth will set you free!

maryrose

Gary:
These Clintonites are really off the hook. They actually claimed in the article that Hil had a shot in Ohio! In what alternate or surreal universe?

dick

While I usually absolutely despise the NY Times, Filkins is about the only reporter they have in Iraq who is worth reading. He at least tries to get out there with the troops and he also writes pretty well about the troops. He, like most of the military, does not appreciate the reporters who sit in the hotels in Baghdad and use stringers.

This kid sounds like a very normal, thoughtful, patriotic young man that it would be good to get to know. He is a credit to the rest of us. He will have his ups and his downs but he also has his beliefs in the country and follows through on them. I wish him well. We are lucky to have a whole bunch of people like him representing us over there and the fact that the majority of our media don't report on them is a black mark on the media, not on the troops. They are serving us proudly and well IMNSHO.

michael ledeen

ditto those good words for filkens. he does his work, his reports have been as close to accurate as one can be under those circumstances, and he even revisits stories when more information becomes available.

i know lots of those kids in Iraq, and this one, like most of them, is a real good one. i'm grateful for this story, if you take a minute to read it again i think you'll find it's extremely sympathetic, and totally undermines the memes that our soldiers are pathological killers or dead-end kids who had nowhere else to go.

Rick Ballard

So Filkens is a good Timesman, eh? Well, as long as he's good and is just doing his best, following orders and all that, I suppose it's OK.

Trickish Knave

I see kids like this everyday and served with them the last 19 years I have been in the Navy.

Although submariners don't have to worry about RPG's these 19 year olds, like LCpl Hamlin, have put aside their personal lives back home and joined the military to make a difference. Whether it is sitting atop a building in the middle of the desert or punching holes in the ocean at 500 feet, what these kids do matters- if to no one else but themselves.

Our young Soldiers, Sailors and Marines will return home seasoned and more mature than anyone who gleans their future commentary off a televison screen or LCD monitor.

Vicki Jacks

I want to say that I am Lance Corporal Joseph Hamlin's aunt, his mother is my sister. I am extremely proud of my nephew and all that he is doing in Iraq. He is a very intelligent young man and strong in his Christian beliefs. I hope and pray that when he and other soldiers come home our country will show them their appreciation.

Michelle Hamlin

I am Joseph Hamlin's younger sister. I do believe that my brother is doing something that most people do not have the guts to do. He is one of the bravest Americans out there. He may be a Southern boy from the middle of no-where, but he has the motivation that most people don't have. I am personally glad someone is over there doing as much as they can for our country so we don't have to. But I just wished that is was not my brother that I love so much putting his life on the line.

Julian Gluck

I went to school with Joe two years ago. I was a freshman, and he was a senior. Though I didn't know him very well and only from weight training, he was a good man, and he's serving his country well. I hope he has a good career with the Corps and after he does his job, comes home safely.

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Qtek 9090 .... $230

Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E60A20 60 in Rear-Projection LCD TV $500
Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E55A20 55 in LCD Rear-Projection TV $470
Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E55A20 55 in LCD Rear-Projection TV $450
Sharp Aquos LC-45GX6U 45 in Flat Panel LCD TV $400
Sharp Aquos LC-37D7U 37 in Flat Panel LCD TV $390
Sharp Aquos LC-45GD7U 45 in Flat Panel LCD TV $450
Samsung LN-R408D 40 in Flat Panel LCD TV $400
Sony Wega KDL-V40XBR1 40 in Flat Panel LCD TV $400
Sharp Aquos LC-37D7U 37 in Flat Panel LCD TV $400
Sharp Aquos LC45GD4U 45 in Flat Panel LCD TV $420
Sharp Aquos LC-32DA5U 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV $350
Sony BRAVIA XBR KDL-V32XBR1 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV $350
Samsung PPM63H3Q 63" Plasma Display PPM63H3Q..USD$1500
Samsung 400PX 40" LCD Display.................................USD$600
Samsung HP-S5073 50" High Definition Plasma TV........USD$700
Samsung HPR4252 42" High Definition Plasma TV.........USD$500
Samsung 42 in. Plasma TV/EDTV, Widescreen.............USD$400
Samsung PPM42M5S - Plasma panel - 42"inch.............USD$450
Samsung - 32""LCD HDTV w/Int HD Tuner.....................USD$450
Samsung HLR6768W 67 DLP Rear Projection TV ........USD$700
Samsung 46" LCD HDTV.............................................USD$650

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