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August 10, 2006

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Pofarmer

"Is this the first time Bush has publickly and explicitly used the term "Islamic fascist" as opposed to the vague "terrorist" or "evildoer" or the like?"

No, I've heard him use it before a few times. I beleive he used the term in the joint press conference with Tony Blair a while back, but I may be mistaken about that one. I hope we hear it more.

Maxwell.

This war is fought against an amorphous enemy of disparate groups with seperate but coinciding aims. I'm not sure thinking in fronts does it justice. Even in the more conventional operations in Iraq there aren't many "fronts". Bin Laden never had total operational control over AQ. It was specifically designed to go on with any of it's members eliminated. That's why it's not so important to get him that we totally destabilize Pakistan to do it. For now, containing him in some cave and reducing him to making a few audio tapes is good enough. They are reduced to using runners to communicate, and old world methods of moving money that don't extend into the first world.

AGrad

How painful would it be if everything someone said had to be reinterpreted for hidden messages or was only said because it covered up other subjects. It is deranged. It is also irrefutable because if you talk about one subject you are unable to talk about others just then. Everything Bush says is indictable because it doesnt cover all subjects. He talks about Al Queda it is a cover up for Iraq. He talks of Iraq it is a cover for the economy. He talks of the economy it is to distract us from not catching OBL.

larwyn

Lurker
"We have been looking at meetings, movements, travel, spending and the aspirations of a large group of people."

Just a week or so ago I was reading about the toothless response of Blair's Government in pursuing the supporters of the hapless 7/7's. According to the piece, one of their neighbors admitted knowing about the plan beforehand and no one had even questioned him.

Wish I could remember where I read that and who wrote it.

Rather like Soledad O'briens exclaimation this morning. They knew about this all that time and then just sprung it on us, without informing the public.

Sorry Soledad, Rocky's back and all.

PeterUK

Larwyn,
The Government is so hedged round with race relations laws,political correctness and Human Rights legislation that the can not act.It is no coincidence that the terrorists chose now to make their move,when Bin Laden called the West the "weak horse" he meant that the will was not there to combat this evil.

Sue

They knew about this all that time and then just sprung it on us, without informing the public.

She said that?????

Sara (The Squiggler)

For the legal eagles among us:

Leak recipients can be prosecuted

vnjagvet

Sara:

Note that this is an Eastern District of Virginia case. It does not bode well for the NSA leakers, does it?

PeterUK

The reason they become terrorists

Jane

Disrupted Terror Plot Was Homegrown
Ronald Kessler
Thursday, Aug. 10, 2006

Kessler: Terror Plot Homegrown

Bush: U.S. 'At War With Islamic Fascists'
Timmerman: Hezbollah Ties to British Plot
Poll: Large Minority Fear, Mistrust Muslims
Streisand: $1 Million for Clinton Charity


WASHINGTON -- The plot disrupted by British authorities to blow up airliners with devices hidden in hand luggage was an example of a homegrown effort by terrorists emulating al-Qaida, according to an FBI source.


"These are wannabes," the FBI agent said. "They are driven by the same ideology that drives al-Qaida, and they are inspired by al-Qaida, but they have no known ties to al-Qaida."


Indeed, key counterterrorism officials say they have so disrupted al-Qaida and effectively isolated Osama bin Laden that the organization would have great difficulty carrying out such a plot today.


"Al-Qaida still exists, but its capability is close to non-existent," the FBI source said.


The terrorists had intended to target flights to Washington, New York and California operated by American Airlines, Continental Airlines and United Airlines.


The FBI source said the plotters likely were not going to pull off the plot on the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks because they would know that "security will be much tighter on Sept. 11."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/10/122516.shtml

lurker

Volokh has a post about Ellis' ruling. Who is Judge Ellis?

Yoni the blogger says that IDF is fuming over denied victory:

Don't blame them. I'm not happy with Olmert halting the invasion til diplomacy has run its course. Ya think the Hezzies will agree to today's version? Nope .

Any delays will do far more harm to the IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians. Olmert needs to let IDF go all the way to Litani River.

Well, neither will Saniora...in spite of his meetings with Welch.

Now Nasrallah's declaring victory.

lurker

Ahhh...

Timmerman sez:

Timmerman: Hezbollah Ties to British Plot

Timmerman's information seem to be accurate so far.

PeterUK

Some details ofThe arrests in Britain,it might be noted that High Wycombe is an up market area,none of those arrested seem poor.

lurker

PUK, hhmmm....they got big bucks, huh? (or rather...pounds?)

Allahpundit has a thread over at hotair about our demcocrats' quotes of the day, which is already making mac ranger fuming fire, I'm sure.

They are all mouthpieces of Christopher Dicky.

"“Five years after 9-11, it is clear that our misguided policies are making America more hated in the world and making the war on terrorism harder to win,” Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts said."

Huh? They've already hated us five years before 9/11. What happened to Khobar Towers? USS Cole? 1993 WTC attack? Beirut suicide bombing killing our 241 marines? And so on...

Check the forever focal Ace


lurker

I guess we will no longer take handbags and carryons with usanymore.

PeterUK

Lurker,
Some of them were not cracking empty nuts,Buckinghamshire is where all the rock stars used to live.Whilst some are ordinary, paying £138,000($261,265)cash is somewhat out of the norm,kind of money that attracts the Inland Revenue.Most i this country have to get a mortgage.

Crew v1.0

"Why do I have to say anything?"

-- Ned Lamont (as reported in the NY Times)

Ned, that is precisely what I myself have been wondering about you. Finally, finally we are agreed on something.

larwyn

Sue,
Yes Soledad said that. I posted it in one of the JOM just as it happened. I was only trying to watch because a formerly very high official of New Scotland Yard was on with her.
At `9:10 tonight Breaking News was Brits had undercover agent inside. Keep that in mind as you read this:
When he told her that they had had them under covert watch for quite some time, she asked how long. He wouldn't say and she said "months?". He was trying to tell the bimbo that it wasn't wise to answer her exactly. Then she talked over him with the "sprung it on us". "Without letting the public know".
I couldn't believe it. I don't think the Brit could believe it either - I had to click away, afraid I would damage the TV screen. Wouldn't even take a look at Johnny Edwards, Matthews big get.
The truth is that many Americans who would be watching the sit-coms or whatever tonight are probably tuning into the News Nets. That can only be good for us. I haven't seen one Dem who didn't sound just like James, Pete and Cleo. Lots of voters have children who will be heading back to school in a few weeks on an airline. Do you think they are really worried about the NSA program or the SWIFT program?
They're worried about how they are getting the kid and his laptop back to school.

Charlie (Colorado)

Whatever. Call me a troll and retarded and moonbat.

That's the best offer I've had all day.

You're a retarded troll and a moonbat.

You're also using standard response number 12 ("Where's bin Laden"), 17 (call people cowards from your pseudonymous account), and 91 (accuse us of bedwetting.)

In the future, please use the numerical response in order to save time and bandwidth.

lurker

I see Crew V1.0's post. Is this typical of our flight attendants, pilots, and TSA agents?

larwyn

I think James is Alan Comles.
Rudy is on with them.

ed

Hmmmm.

What? Ned Lamont vacationing yet *again*?

How many vacation days does this guy need?

lol. Just warming up in case the nutbag wins in Nov.

lurker

Ah...ed, I remember how Michael Moore harped about how much vacation Bush took per year as part of his quickly debuncked F911 movie.

Will Michael Moore harp about the number of vacation days Lamont takes per year? Nope.

SunnyDay

http://greenhelmetguy.blogspot.com/

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Pofarmer

CAIR is not happy, not happy at all. That's good.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060811/ts_nm/security_usa_muslims_dc

larwyn

Lurker,
I wrote at 4:28:
"Just a week or so ago I was reading about the toothless response of Blair's Government in pursuing the supporters of the hapless 7/7's. According to the piece, one of their neighbors admitted knowing about the plan beforehand and no one had even questioned him.

Wish I could remember where I read that and who wrote it."

RiehlWorld has post
Terrorists Linked To July 7 Bombings

A USNews exclusive - apparently some of the terrorists recently arrested had ties to those involved in the July 7 bombing of the London subways.

Oh, that damn slacker Blair never sent anyone to "talk to the neighbor".

Doubly wish I could remember where I read that and who wrote it!

Barney Frank

"I understand that Hezbollah (or an earlier related group) was responsible for blowing up the Marine barricks in Lebanon, and other activities to get Westerners out of that country. But have they been responsible for any terrorist activity outside Lebanon and Israel?"

This seems a little like asking if the Japanese had attacked anyone outside of the Pacific theater in WWII or if the SS was really an effective army unit.
Hizballah is a part of a larger whole and occupies its sphere of influence. It is the whole that matters and killing any of its constituent parts is progress.

PeterUK

Many of the suicide bombers who went to Iraq were Hezbollah affiliates.

PeterUK

Barney,
Interesting analogies,perhaps Hezbollah i Lebanon,could be equated to the elements of the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe in Spain during the Civil War...simply a try out.

PeterUK

Barney,
Interesting analogies,perhaps Hezbollah i Lebanon,could be equated to the elements of the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe in Spain during the Civil War...simply a try out.

Bob

Zogby: I've said from the beginning that their behavior was reckless and provocative. But Israel bears the responsibility. It's like saying what Mort is saying and what those who want to make that case is saying, the girl who wore the short skirt deserved to get raped--"

Spoken like a true muslim/liberal... My behavior is bad, but it's not my fault! She made me do it!

And doesn't sharia law actually kill girls who are raped for being too provocative? Again the muslim men are so much like liberal men... they can't control themselves, like Billy Willy boy and Ted the murderer. And then when they get caught, they blame or kill the women... and their supporters just nod their heads in approval!

boris

kill girls who are raped for being too provocative?

Formula for an ugly ugly gene pool.

Bob

Boris... that's why they wrap them up in rags!

If the "brave" muslim men, who hide behind children ever knew how ugly their 72 virgins were going to be, the recruits for suicide bombers would dry up overnight!

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