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August 09, 2006

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Semanticleo

THIS is what you have been toiling over?

Tsk, tsk.

"Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.

Nothin' up my sleeve.............

Better get another hat."

Misdirection may be the only tactic left.
So, use it well.

Other Tom

Ever notice how the doctoring always favors the same viewpoint?

Other Tom

Ever notice how the doctoring always favors the same viewpoint?

clarice

The media is concentrating on the relatively small stuff , correcting it and ignoring the bigger stuff.
Eureferendum has compelling evidence that the Qana dans macabre was staged with the complicity of the press--esp. AP, AFP and Reuters --and (today, the Red Cross).

This was not small potatoes. The incident was designed to further defame Israel and build international support for an immediate ceasefire which would only benefit Hezbollah.

When the media acts like a propaganda wing of Hezbollah, it deserves to be treated as that and no more.

Absent a thorough , outside credible investigation of that event, Reuters and the other persons/agencies involved along with the media which reproduced those pics without reporting on the questions raised about them, do not deserve and will not regain our respect as authentic reporters of the news.

clarice

The media is concentrating on the relatively small stuff , correcting it and ignoring the bigger stuff.
Eureferendum has compelling evidence that the Qana dans macabre was staged with the complicity of the press--esp. AP, AFP and Reuters --and (today, the Red Cross).

This was not small potatoes. The incident was designed to further defame Israel and build international support for an immediate ceasefire which would only benefit Hezbollah.

When the media acts like a propaganda wing of Hezbollah, it deserves to be treated as that and no more.

Absent a thorough , outside credible investigation of that event, Reuters and the other persons/agencies involved along with the media which reproduced those pics without reporting on the questions raised about them, do not deserve and will not regain our respect as authentic reporters of the news.

Bob

""Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.

Nothin' up my sleeve.............

Better get another hat."

Misdirection may be the only tactic left.
So, use it well."


another incoherent rant... why don't you go play with sam!

Albert Schwartz

Notice that the 'fallen' man is wrapped in a rope cat's cradle that could not be made without the man's active cooperation. The photo looks like something you'd see in some of the more esoteric parts of the internet.

Slartibartfast

The really odd thing is, where there are actual corpses, photographers haven't been at all shy in snapping photos. Even when the gruesomeness quotient is extraordinary. My conclusion: this particular photographer couldn't get near a real corpse, so he rented a stand-in.

Robb Allen

Ahh... What you need is a nice, motivational poster.

SunnyDay

Green helmet is now appearing in a white helmet, sometimes no helmet and a face mask.

He knows that we know.

clarice

Robb--Brilliant..

sbw

One earns a level of respect according to how one treats others. Fauxtography and staging show a lack of respect the equal of wanton spraying of Katyusha rockets into civilian populations.

Unfortunately, the publishers and CEOs of mainstream agencies/TV/press neither understand nor appreciate how much fauxtography and Katyushas undermine the minimum requirements of society good enough to allow journalism the luxury to serve.

Were they interested in journalism, they would examine, through their reporting, what threatens society and why. They lack the wit to know.

Arkanssouri John

This doesn't really surprise me. That the left views perception as more important than reality is nothing new.

John

The "correction" is bogus!

How is it that the "injured man" is holding his cap against his side. If he fell, wouldn't he have lost his cap, doesn't care about his cap, hurts too much to worry about his cap....?

cathyf

Zombie has a nice explanation of four distinct kinds of fauxtography. A rather obvious point of it is that those who defend the fauxtographers have a tool there. In each individual case, the fauxtographers are usually practicing just one form of deception and are innocent of the other three. So an outraged, rambling, ad hominem defense where the defender proves the fauxtog innocent on the three counts which he was never accused of kicks up enough confusion to succeed.

cathy :-)

JohnH

The commenters on the fauxtographs at Gatewaypundit who defend them consider them to be fake but accurrate.

The fauxtographer in this case is NYT's Tyler Hicks, not a stringer. The sequence of shots on Gatewaypundit show that Hicks was present when the "dead guy" was walking around. The original caption saying that one man was helping another who had fallen and was hurt is very unconvincing. The photo looks quite staged. If the "hurt" man was unconscious, as suggested by the closed eyes, then how is he clutching his hat to his side with his left arm? If he is unconscious, why is the other man pulling him up in that manner?

If he is not unconscious, why is he pressing his left arm to his side to hold onto his hat instead of helping to pull himself up?

Gateway commenters point out a lot of other inconsistensies. I don't think the NYT has done nearly enough to explain what was going on here, and it smells a little rotten concerning their "celebrated" Tyler Hicks.

Rocco

I think I found some more Fauxtography?

Forbes

"...one man helped another who had fallen and was hurt."

This is a preposterous "correction."

As the sixth photo in a photo essay, a picture of a man who has fallen down provides no context or color, in reporting on the aftermath of a bombing. In other words, as the caption is corrected, the photo has no news value.

Alternatively, an apparently dead body does provide context and color to the story.

Fake, but accurate is not the way to run a news gathering organization, but then again, they all seem to be in the opinion journalism business.

PeterUK

MSM,falling into the old trap,it isn't the crime it's the coverup,further and further into the quagmire they ride.
Incidentally,how many people would handle the bodies of these poor little mites in such a callous fashion as do these child molesters?
Did none of the fauxtographers flinch at such cold blooded man handling of dead children,could not of them stop clicking even to be sick,could none of them walk away in disgust,rather than be part of such a tableaux macabre?
Shameful,truly shameful!

PeterUK

At least someone has noticed

owl

How is it that the "injured man" is holding his cap against his side. If he fell, wouldn't he have lost his cap, doesn't care about his cap, hurts too much to worry about his cap....?

As far as I am concerned, this sums up the entire fakery. But there is always a reason for their madness. They support terrorists and all things anti-American.

It would be very interesting if someone viewed all their published war photos and rated them pro/con American. Of course, the frequency they published Abu Ghraib would sink them immediately.

Their correction explanation has to be a deliberate bald-faced lie because of that hat. I don't care about the photographer....I want someone to nail them on the correction LIE.

PeterUK

Here is one they probaly wished they had faked

maryrose

PeterUK:
Per the "Corner article..."just making things up" why am I not surprised? They are in the propaganda business.

PeterUK

Maryrose,
The Middles East has had a tradition of begging for millennia,children are deliberately maimed to enhance their prospects of elicting pity and so receive more alms.There are bands,almost circus troupes of people who beg,rob and fake accidents for money.
Most in the west are ignorant of this,and indeed regard the idea as preposterous,but if we think car accident scams,where someone will deliberately collide with a vehicle,it is not so far fetched.
It is not then,very far to fake deaths,in fact there is an incentive,since the paying of compensation is traditional.

Semanticleo

"deliberately maimed to enhance their prospects of elicting pity and so receive more alms."

And I hear they eat their young.

That's the double-edged sword of insular
blogs where the spiritually crippled find
enablers who don't call them on their
racist mindset. It is a safe haven for
the low-lifes. You know, semi-erect bipeds
whose scrotums fairly scrape
the ground they travel.

PeterUK

Leotard,Right on cue,show them your scars dear,they seem a kindly bunch.

Cecil Turner

That's the double-edged sword of insular blogs where the spiritually crippled find enablers who don't call them on their racist mindset.

Racist mindset? Except he happens to be right:

Indian docs questioned in amputation scam
NEW DELHI, India - Three Indian doctors caught on camera apparently agreeing to amputate the healthy limbs of beggars are to be questioned by the Indian Medical Council, an official said on Tuesday.

PeterUK

Sad but true Cecil.

Cecil Turner

Yeah, that link's better. (I just picked the Indian one because it made headlines last week.) Cheers.

Semanticleo

Cecil;

You and PUK ARE right!. Attention, all brown skinned people. We are aware of your
heinous and barbaric gene pool and demand that you report to the official ovens immediately.

You are, enmasse, condemned to suffer the
penalties commensurate with your callous disregard for your own helpless children.
Muslims, in particular, should remember there are no innocent victims amongst your
people when it comes to the WoT. You are considered terrorists until proven otherwise. Sorry, this is the new american way.

PeterUK

"We are aware of your
heinous and barbaric gene pool and demand that you report to the official ovens immediately."

You been listening to your Master,Ahmadinejad again,Leotard? You have certainly got the rhetoric off pat....can you do "Green Aura"?

SunnyDay

I quit posting on my own board and came here to get away from the DU/KOS drivel. arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!

Robb Allen

Wait. I'm brown skinned. Am I counted in your group Sem?

Semanticleo

Green aura can't help you, Grim Reaper.

lurker

I thought the doctored photos was the norm for MSM for ah, so many years.

Speaking about a doctored scam or the truth...who knows...but whaddya thunk?

The Biggest Scam or ????

PeterUK

Sunny Day,
Somebody,IIRC on Jeff Goldstein,said that Sematicleo was DoubleStandard.

Neo

Now this looks like an obvious fake.

SunnyDay

Aha!

PeterUK

"Green aura can't help you, Grim Reaper."

"Memento Mori" Leotard,or in your case "Memento Moron".

SunnyDay

The Biggest Scam or ????
***********

The Illuminati!! sshhhhhhh!!

Semanticleo

"And thus I clothe my naked villainy/With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;/And seem a saint, when most I play the devil"

Richard III

lurker

Be ready for this.

SunnyDay! ROFL!!

Lebanon Trauma

PeterUK

Very Doublestandard,Leotard,haven't you got anything original? In Persian perhaps?

Semanticleo

PUK;

I could write something in brownface, if that would appeal to your racial instincts.

Semanticleo

and the Persian language is farsi. Idiot.

PeterUK

"Brown face" Leotard,your stuff is so embarrassing it should be "Red face".


Of course it is Farsi,Leotard,as I have mentioned to you many times and oft,remember? You need a new Farsi to Gibberish dictioary.

In your previos incarnation as DoubleStandard,you claimed to be an Iranian female,care to expand on that?

Semanticleo

PUK;

Why are you languishing on this thread?
You should be whipping up the local townspeople so you have help lynching some
brown people, any brown people. That's what you are best at.

PeterUK

Leotard,
You seem to be the one obsessed with brown people,I have no problem at all with brown people,it is simply people who are trying to kill me that I have a problem with.

So you do not deny you are the Iranian female DoubleStandard?

DrSteve

Semanticleo's taken kind of a rough turn, no?

Oh, and "Persian" is a perfectly acceptable term for "Any of the western Iranian dialects or languages of ancient or medieval Persia and modern Iran," or so says my dictionary.

Something bothering you lately, 'cleo? I mean the naked accusations of racism are lacking even in the rudimentary elements of style I'd become accustomed to seeing from you.

Semanticleo

Dr.Steve;

Another pseudonym for Takla Makan, or Dicentrist or whatever handle you choose to disguise, rather than distinguish yourself with?

This time don't hit-and-run with your usual
nonsequitur. Try entering the debate for a change.

PeterUK

"Try entering the debate for a change." you should try it yourself DoubleStandard.

Semanticleo

PUK;

You really are delusional with your insipid insistence I must be 'doublestandard', aren't you?

First off, I am your antithesis, and the first bullet on the list of differences is that I do not skulk, or lie, or hide behind false and numerous pseudonyms.

Second on the list; I am not a closeted,
self-deluded racist swine whose gonads
wither casusing my speech inflections to
crawl to a whispered croak a few octaves higher than the common ferret.

I could go on, but what's the point? You
are a victim of end-stage soulrot, leaving you with little more than a meatsuit to inhabit until the day your carcass becomes food for maggots and nightcrawlers.

PeterUK

Semanticleo is your real name? You poor sad bastard.
Your future

Semanticleo

And you are;

1. Vittorio Serafino?
2. Tommaso Pompeii?
3. Mary Turner?

Or do you have any connection to Tiscali
at all? When you steal handles and, doubleclick takes one to Yahoo, do you
think you are fooling anyone, Idiot times ten?

PeterUK

Are you unutterably bone stupid, take your pick

DrSteve

Jaysus on a pony, project much?

'cleo, I only post as DrSteve; I've done so for years now. I've never posted anywhere as anything else. If you have a problem with multiple personalities on the Internet, take it up with the otherwise wholly uninteresting Mr. Greenwald.

PeterUK

DSteve,
Sematicleo is spending too much time involved in this kind of thing

Semanticleo

DrSteve;

Instead of lurking and trolling the comments
opportunistically, try making a comment that
bares your opinions, attitudes and beliefs instead of sniping at the perceived underdog.

DrSteve

'cleo, you're about as correct about my posting behavior as you are my identity. Try making a comment or two that isn't completely full of shit and see how I react then. 'k?

SunnyDay

Oh wow! Looky what I missed. drama!!

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