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September 23, 2006

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windansea

Where does someone living in paradise go to vacation?

It's a bit hot and humid here this time of year, so I usually go somewhere with mountains and altitude to cool off...

you know...some place like Waziristan

I've told you too much already

Sue

::grin::

Other Tom

"State Department analysts warn the Clinton administration in a top secret assessment that bin Laden’s move from Sudan to Afghanistan will offer him an 'ideal haven.' The warning comes exactly one month after he made the move (see May 18, 1996). Analysts say that 'his prolonged stay in Afghanistan - where hundreds of "Arab mujahedeen" receive terrorist training and key extremist leaders often congregate - could prove more dangerous to US interests in the long run than his three-year liaison with Khartoum,' in Sudan. Further, bin Laden’s public statements suggest an 'emboldened' man capable of 'increased terrorism.' Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA’s bin Laden unit at the time, will later comment, 'The thinking was that he was in Afghanistan, and he was dangerous, but because he was there, we had a better chance to kill him. But at the end of the day, we settled for the worst possibility - he was there and we didn’t do anything.'” [New York Times, 8/17/2005

Other Tom

"Regarding the scene, it was never clear to my officers or myself who canceled the operation. It is true that Clarke was bad-mouthing it. What I don't think people know, however, is that the Agency had thoroughly reviewed the plan and had approved its execution at the highest level -- that is, at the level of DCI Tenet and his immediate subordinates. (NB: At Tenet's direction, JSOC commanders at Fort Bragg also reviewed the plan. They approved it, said they could not do better, and built two sand-table mock-ups of the bin Laden's compound for us to use in preparing the operation.) My officers and I were told that the plan had been sent to Clarke and the NSC for approval. The next thing we knew, the Chief of CT at CIA told us that the plan had been canceled because civilians might get killed, there was not a hundred percent chance that we would get bin Laden, and that if bin Laden was killed in the capture effort the CIA might get accused of assassination. The implication to us at the time was that the NSC canceled the operation, but Tenet later claimed he did it himself. I don't know what the full truth is on this issue. Interestingly, after our east Africa embassies were bombed on 7 August 98, Clarke ordered us to immediately revive the capture plan, but of course by then the chance had been well and truly lost."

--Michael Scheuer, August 2006

Usama bin Laden

The infidel Clinton is not the only one to be concerned with the legacy he leaves,I wish to be remembered for my sense of humour.

"So Jesus and Moses walk into a bar. They take a moment to look around. After a moment they look at each other and breathe a sigh of relief. Moses looks at Jesus and says, ‘Thank God that Mohammad isn’t here. This joke could have led to riots."

Other Tom

"On page 223, Clarke describes a meeting, in late 2000, of the National Security Council 'principals' — among them, the heads of the CIA, the FBI, the Attorney General, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the secretaries of State, Defense. It was just after al Qaeda’s attack on the USS Cole. But neither the FBI nor the CIA would say that al Qaeda was behind the bombing, and there was little support for a retaliatory strike. Clarke quotes Mike Sheehan, a State Department official, saying in frustration, 'What’s it going to take, Dick? Who the shit do they think attacked the Cole, fuckin’ Martians? The Pentagon brass won’t let Delta go get bin Laden. Hell they won’t even let the Air Force carpet bomb the place. Does al Qaeda have to attack the Pentagon to get their attention?'”

TruthProbe

Did anybody check the news today? It's widely believed that the report of Osama bin Laden's death has been greatly exagerated.

Darn

TruthProbe

Patton

Gee, I hope the Devil doesn't plan on torturing Bin Laden...that will really piss off those lefties.

The ACLU will probably file suit against Satan, naming Cheney and Rove as co-conspiritors.

richard mcenroe

I want to see the head and the DNA tests.

Patton

I guess Clinton has forgotten just who was running our Government Departments duringh Bushs forst nione months:

HINT: THEY WERE MOSTLY CLINTON HOLD OVERS.

Dozens of Bush nominees are stalled in Senate
MAY 28, 2001
When George W. Bush chose former Sen. John Ashcroft (R.-Mo.) as his attorney general, conservatives could not have been more delighted.
But after taking a beating during the nomination process, Ashcroft has slipped from the headlines, almost into obscurity.

Many conservatives feared that the right-wing stalwart had gotten ideological cold feet.

But, say Washington veterans, it is far more likely that Ashcroft is being victimized by a Senate that is forcing him to wait for political appointees to wend their way through a prolonged confirmation process. To date, Ashcroft is ALONE at Justice. He is the only political appointee at the department who has been confirmed by the Senate, making it extremely difficult for him to carry out any new policies.

BY THE END OF MAY 2001, THE DEMOCRATS HAD ALLOWED ONLY ONE BUSH NOMINEE TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

Sue

And Jamie Gorelick was on Fox this morning saying gee, you know, if she had the power to build the wall, Ashcroft had the power to tear it down, pre-9/11. And got away with it, because I doubt the host knew it was well into the summer of 2001 before Ashcroft had a DoJ.

pATTON

Please sign this petition, don't let Bush get away with it!

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It has come to our attention that due to Bush adminstration policy, Arab devote Islamics are dying due to the cruel and inhumane treatment of the United States.

Although not even in custody, the Bush adminstration has driven these individuals to live in sub-human conditions under constant threat of arrest or death.

It is this type of treatment, which has reportedly caused the death of one Usama Bin Laden, a philanthropist and outdoorsmen who used his considerable weath to organize summer camps for Islamic youth in Afghanistan.

It is this treatment that only breeds terrorism in Muslim youth who are completely unaffected by the constant anti-western, anti-semetic propaganda broadcast forth by their television, radio and mosques on a 24 hour a day basis and officially sanctioned by their governments.

Please sign today, and a donation would greatly help pay the mortgage on my new brownstone.

boris

Who else has noticed that the NIE leak once again places the administration in the position of trying to defend against attacks where the truth is classified?

Looka Lika Pattern.

clarice

I noticed it.

And I think everyone who had a copy of the NIE ought to be rounded up and polygraphed tonight.

clarice

Per Mac:
"The NIE, whose contents were first reported by the New York Times, coincides with public statements by senior intelligence officials describing a different kind of conflict than the one outlined by President Bush in a series of recent speeches marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.”

That is the reason some of these “officials”, mostly State Department pukes got to yacking it up with the media for this story. It’s designed to “stem the tide” of the Bush rise in the polls.

The only problem is of course is that this isn’t at all what the NIE says.

Several officials I’ve spoken with, who actually worked on, and have seen the final assessment actually reached a different conclusion than what is being reported. This of course means that we simply have yet another designed hit piece reminiscent of those during election 2004."

maryrose

These tactics won't work because the real truth will come out just in time for the election. The dems are desperate now because they know the tide is turning against them. They don't have enough juice to take the House or the Senate so now they are scrambling even using guaranteed "you are going to lose if you use Clinton" to help themselves. Pathetic losers.

clarice

From your mouth to God's ears , Maryrose.

Sara (Squiggler)

Negreponte has already made a statement that the leaked story is very misleading as to what the report actually concludes.

SunnyDay

They just need to keep repeating "Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi." It's a slam dunk.

clarice

Remember the report was written in APRIL. Aside from the idiocy of the nature of the cherry picked claims, it is clear whoever leaked, waited until 6 weeks before the election to leak.

Sara (Squiggler)

The first of a two part article on General Hayden's approach to the CIA:

Gen. Hayden Moves to Unify CIA

Pofarmer

Ya know, I've seen it asked or mentioned on some lefty blogs, that one question is, why didn't Bush do something about the USS Cole. A quick Wikipedia search brought up a couple things I vaguely remembered.

The bombing was on October 12, 2000. Tha Navy released it JAG assessment on January 19,2001, that's right, the day before Bush's inaguration. I remember thinking at the time, boy, that was fast. It would almost make you think that the powers that be in the previous administration, plus the military, didn't want anything done. Essentially, they had declared it a closed case already before Bush came into office. Kind of brings some of the "loyal opposition" to the Iraq war more in focus.

sam

Have you noticed yet that you are only talking
to yourselves?

clarice

What? You'e chopped liver, Sam?

PeterUK

"Have you noticed yet that you are only talking
to yourselves?"

Silght correction Srollover Sam,we are talking AMONGST ourselves,it is you who is talking to himself.
A recent poll shows that 9 out of 10 readers scroll over your comments first time,the one percent remaining,missed you first time and go back and srcoll over your comments.
So its all over Scrollover Sam.

kate

This is very similar to the 2004 campaign when the New York Times, unelected leakers/bureaucrats in the departments/agencies, and the United Nations collaborated to generate news and headlines detrimental to Bush and the republicans.

Hopefully, there is a strategy in place to quickly respond to these coordinated efforts and set the record straight.

One story out there that worries me: Haditha. There are people waiting for this story to spin against Rumsfeld and my extension Bush.

Syl

kate

It's funny how so many people point to the wrong things to be afraid of...or at least to be more afraid of than anything else.

I was over at janegalt.net, and her constant worry (though she's not all that worried about Bush) is that America will become a dictatorship so we must be vigilant against that possibility.

ISTM that the left's march through the institutions and usurpation of our judicial system is more to be feared. At least with the Executive, we do have the courts and Congress to check its power.

But who can check the power of the court if our normal election process (which then chooses judges) is constantly undermined through leaks and a hostile press. They are basically using the protections of the constitution to undermine the political process.

Isn't that more to be feared?

The left was sitting pretty before 9/11. They had academia, the supreme court, and the press. They had the NGO's, the UN, and 'international law'.

Jaw-jaw was accepted as the solution to any problem. Criminals were victims of society. They were sure they had won the culture war.

But the support for Bush in the WoT is a slap in the face to the Left.

Bush hatred isn't some minor personal dislike of the man. It's a visceral hatred of someone who has shattered their complacency. And they'll be damned if they simply allow the political process to play out. They cannot afford that because they'll lose. So any means justifies their goal of regaining power.

That, to me, is more worrisome.

Pofarmer

Syl

The left is in the vast minority, and they know it, on everything from economic policy(tax cuts) to abortion. Their grasp on power has always been tenuous, and they know that too.

Ann Coulter said it best. When asked about the tone in politics she said it's not because of "angry right wingers" it's because, through the new media, Conservatives are finally able to talk back. The left is not used to being talked back too. It's not used to having it's ideas challenged.

What sam has failed to notice is the substantive debate is largely happening on the right. What's happening on the left is caterwolling and ankle biting to the n'th degree. We don't want to go back to those policies, and they are vexed by it.

They have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the Republicans and so far they've stood up. They've diminished the Presidency, they've made the Democratic party look like a bunch of kooks.

IMHO, the biggest threat to our liberties right now is the left censoring speech to get their way. Without free speech you can't air opinions. Without the 2nd ammendment you have no recourse if the first if abrogated. The left in this country is at a dangerous stage right now.

Other Tom

We're talking to one another, Sam. Got it?

Gary Maxwell

Isn't Sam the guy with the cut and paste lists every other day or so? That is about his only contributions that I can recall. So does talking mean something different that dialogue to him and his fellow travelers? No much dialogue with that one.

maryrose

Conservatives have great radio programs and the Left has to acknowledge what a power we have become. The bully pulpit is no longer theirs-Air America is history. Everyone knows that the Left does not speak for the American people. It is a hard lesson to learn just weeks before an election with Cindy Sheehan banished to the hinterlands. Sheehan's overreach- thinking she could challenge Feinstein's Senate seat in California.

Florence Schmieg

Repeating one more time: The fact that Iraq is a training ground for terrorists reinforces Bush's argument that it is the central front in the war on terror. Dems say it is not but that it is?!? Next obvious question to democrats: Do you want us to leave Iraq to become another Afghanistan then? What is it that you want? Just wanting to go back again and again over whether we should have gone into Iraq is just old and stale.

maryrose

Dems and the NIE -loser strategy. Negraponte is the one people will believe-not partisan dem hacks. Until they start speaking truthfully I will continue to call them hacks because all of their actions are to promote themselves at the expense of our safety and well-being.

Gary Maxwell

Glenn Reynolds links to the Baseball Crank's missive entitled:

How Wrong Was Josh Marshall?

Here is the link:

http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2006/09/politics_how_wr.php>THIS WRONG

Given its about the Plame affair its should be of interest to a few of you.

sad

Gary

That was an interesting article. I hope some of those people are reading their archives.

clarice

Makes me think Sid B. played a hand in this one, too.

Gary Maxwell

Sid Vicious? Well it does kinda fit now doesn't it. HMMMMM

clarice

During Rathergate, I traced the tale--and the first hint of it was at Josh's and Sid just happened to be in Texas at the crucial moment.


What do the NIE leaks have in common with Munchausen's selective leaking of matters covered in the NIE?
(a) They come long after the production of the document--in this case 6 months after--and the leak is clearly designed to affect the election.
(b) The leak is selective and surely misleading but absent declassification of secrets which takes time, the lie spreads.
(c) The story is facially absurd.

http://claudiarosett.pajamasmedia.com/2006/09/25/flat_earth_society_does_terror.php

verner

Clarice, did you know that Sid Blumenthal dedicated his new book to Joseph C. Wilson? That's right, the same thug who tried to label Monica as a psychotic, blackmailing, stalking slut, because the president told him she was, and who tried to destroy Kathleen Willey at the Clinton's bidding is elevating Joe Wilson to martyr status.

It is almost as absurd as ending his last stupid book--a love song to Bill Clinton--with a verse from "Leaves of Grass." Did he not think people would notice, and laugh at his complete silliness?

Blumenthal now works for Soros, and would do anything for the Clintons.

sad

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060925-123036-1468r.htm

Maybe some of Clinton's ire was due to the suit addressed in this Washington Times piece.

clarice

I read that but forgot it. It's like hearing it for the very first time.

Sid's single most successful disinfo campaign was turning the public against Starr by flat faced lying about what he'd been asked in the grand jury knowing full well that Starr could not expose the lie except by breaching his duty to keep those proceedings confidential. Only long after, when the gj ended its work, did we learn what he'd really been asked and that the gj admonished Sid for his lies about what he'd been asked.

Piece of work that guy is.

clarice

More goodies on the meltdown:

Psychiatric:http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2006/09/clinton-shame-and-narcissism.html

Literary (Comparison with Capt Queeg):http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6210

PeterUK

Clarice,
The infernal Typepad is truncating your links.

PeterUK

Clarice's Clinton Link

clarice

Sorry PUK--I'll go to href--The Rossett cite is here:

http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6211>Rossett

The other cites are hyperlinked at other AT articles today .

Sara (Squiggler)

PeterUK - The best part about using Firefox is the ability to decrease font size which then makes the entire link visible and able to be copied. It isn't Typepad, it is spacing.

Barney Frank

Thanks clarice,

I was going to post about Clinton and Narcissistic Personality Disorder but that fellow covered it well in your first link.
That's why Chris Wallace was so dumbfounded by Clinton's reaction. Unless you know what makes these people tick they will forever blind side you. Below are the characteristics which define them. Sound like Billy boy?

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


PeterUK

Barneym
Does "Charlie" have the same effect?

clarice

Truth be told a good part of D.C.'s hierarchy is afflicted with it. Clinton's is just very extreme.

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Does anyone else think Clinton is like one of those 70's sitcoms you used to love when you were a kid, and now when you see it on cable you cannot imagine what the attraction was?

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