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October 17, 2006

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clarice

He also nailed CREW and the WaPo (for pimping for CREW) on Weldon.
When the Capt is on, he's on.

jerry

A grey mail team is obviously in order here.

Jane

Melanie Sloan is a very busy woman.

Wilson's a Liar

REDSTATE is reporting that a move is afoot to dump Reid as Senate Dem leader.

Rick Ballard

"REDSTATE is reporting that a move is afoot to dump Reid as Senate Dem leader."

Why in the world would they do that? Dingy Harry is as close to honest as the Dems can get.

cboldt

-- REDSTATE is reporting that a move is afoot to dump Reid as Senate Dem leader. --


It's Hillary!s turn.

hit and run

New thread, new suggestion for a JOM-inspired group to monitor political doings.....

Citizen
Liaisons for
Accountability
Responsibility and
Integrity
Centered
Ethics
Rules!

arrowhead

YES!

clarice

I was thinking of
Senior
Citizens for
Responsibility and
Ethics in
Washington

anonymous

Senior Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

[Absolutely perfect.]

SlimGuy

Guess Harry Reid saw too many of those "What happens in Vegas" commercials.

Rick Ballard

"Despite Enervating Media Slackness" needs to be appended for a complete understanding of the focus.

Jane

Ahhhh... SCREW

I like it.

SlimGuy

I like it.

Posted by: Jane | October 17, 2006 at 02:37 PM

But as Dan Ackroyd said....naah to easy

LOL

hit and run

Whoooooaaaaa there SG. "easy" with the acronym being proposed? Wait. I can't. Even I can't. It crossed my mind to make that joke. But I just couldn't. Shouldn't. Won't.

SlimGuy

H&R

We only make fun of those we consider our friends and likeminded individuals, we let all the others show what fools they are.

Miracle Max

Next post will be on Hastert's land deal. Um-hmm. Oh yeah.

PeterUK

Bloggers Against Lax Legal Scruples.

The Unbeliever

Senior Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Aww, guess I don't meet the entry criteria.

(Speaking of which, aren't we overdue for an AB/JayDee/JBD driveby to call us all chickenhawks?)

Tom Maguire

Next post will be on Hastert's land deal. Um-hmm. Oh yeah.

As soon as anyone comes up with as good a fit of man with scandal as Harry REIT, I'll cover it.

vnjagvet

Time to SCREW CREW, I think. No chickenhawks here.

maryrose

Harry Reid's going down and Hil's up and ready. She figures as Minority leader she can jettison her way to the WH. Sorry Hil -we have long memories of your bogus land deals , Madison Trust, grifting contents of the WH, Travel Office scam, cattle futures killing which sounds a lot like Harry's land deal,and much much more. The blogs will make sure this all comes to light. I'd aim for Majority leader in 08 if I were you.

anonymous

Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader, U.S. House of Representatives.

Hillary Clinton, Majority Leader, U.S. Senate.

It could happen.

topsecretk9

McCarthyCRAT Nazi blackmails...pretty much extortion, can't wait for the announcement Rogers is under investigation...

http://www.redstate.com/stories/archived/democrat_blackmails_united_states_senator

topsecretk9
...(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value, knowingly so deposits or causes to be delivered, as aforesaid, any communication, with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person and containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another, or the reputation of a deceased person, or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. If such a communication is addressed to a United States judge, a Federal law enforcement officer, or an official who is covered by section 1114 [18 USCS § 1114], the individual shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. 18 USCS § 876 (d)
topsecretk9

10 years baby! Be Crew like and make a recommendation tot he FBI and DOJ ---- and remember to tell them Crew Sent you!

Neo

CREW better have gotten their facts on Weldon right, because he will be coming after them with a federal civil rights case if the FBI and DOJ can't find anything on him.

clarice

I'm quite certain that federal law is inapplicable--a Supreme Ct opinion on abortion clinics limited that ..But the D.C. extortion law does seem applicable and I do hope the US Atty here (they handle all criminal matters, not just federal ones, except for midemeanors) is on his toes.

topsecretk9

-- is on his toes.--

Let make him/her so!

Neo

My particular aspect is from the side of the "two informed sources" that leaked the Weldon matter to the press. At no time are they referred to as administration, FBI or DOJ, but always "informed."
It's one thing to go to the DOJ, but something else entirely to force the direction of the investigation by press leaks. By leaking (Sat. PM) more than 24 hours before the FBI descended (Mon. AM) to seize documents, it does have the smell of obstruction.

SlimGuy

TS9

If you go to Rogers companion website

proudofwhoweare.org you will see a couple of posts with letters attached that show that he has been mailing people to try to influence their positions on support in this election for the republican party.

He is working the conservative christian coalition members trying to make it a wedge issue without a doubt.

topsecretk9

Here is how to reach the DC District Attorney
for anyone who'd like to get Crew like on Rogers...


clarice

Well, draft up a letter ts--citing rogers original threat. How the Senator voted on the issue and rogers latest post. Request an investigation under the D.C. extortion law and post it so those who want to can sign it--then send it in.

SlimGuy

Clarice

I would be willing to go back and try to recover the multiple posts rogers made and the dates involved when he started with a list of all the Senators in congress and kept teasing his readers with gradual reductions of the list.

In addition Rogers just posted on his site a link to the audio of his outing of Craig on the Ed Shultz Radio show.

http://www.blogactive.com/2006/10/audio-from-ed-schultz.html
http://audio.wegoted.com/podcasting/101706RogersMike.mp3

SlimGuy

Clarice

How much does it complicate matters from a legal standpoint that the letter was put up on the site when it was hosted on us territory, but the site is now hosted in the Netherlands when this outing occurred?

clarice

Don't know, but the original threat was made here, wasn't it?

topsecretk9

Captain Ed raise the issue of libel as well...


--Well, draft up a letter ts--citing rogers original threat. How the Senator voted on the issue and rogers latest post. Request an investigation under the D.C. extortion law and post it so those who want to can sign it--then send it in.

Posted by: clarice | October 17, 2006 at 08:52 PM--


Calling JMH, calling JMH? Come in ... JMH!

topsecretk9

One thing to remember, as C-Ed points out...the so-called people Rogers found to say this are anonymous...so from start to finish it's just slander.

SlimGuy

Clarice

The site was hosted in the US when the threat was made on the eve of the Alito cloture vote, clearly it was here then. However when his site went down on the 7th he switched to an offshore server before the outing was done.

Will have to go back to check the 7th as an exact date but best IIRC.

However the outing was also simulcast on the US based radio show, so the server location issue may be overridden by the radio appearance.

Neo

Found my new word of the day, paddyroller, a slave catcher who hunted runaways for bounty.

example:

It appears that Mike Rogers is the 21st Century version of the "paddyroller'".

topsecretk9

Someone pointed out the red letter heading at Drugde...Rove outlays the sucker punch...Dems. vote against protecting America....only thing Dems are FOR is outing gays....and have NO plan/platform, otherwise.

topsecretk9

especially in the last couple of weeks, a potent set of votes to talk about. You had 90 percent of House Democrats voting against the terrorist-surveillance program, nearly three-quarters of Senate Democrats and 80 percent of House Democrats voting against the terrorist-interrogation act. Something is fundamentally flawed.' DEVELOPING...

Nice vacation into homophobia Dems., but what was your vote on serious matters that effect actual voters?

SlimGuy

TS9

Commentors at Rogers website make their own claims if you read them. Words are cheap but if you read all of them like I have to see what they are saying and how they are reacting it's a mixed bag. Some support Rogers some are totally against what he is doing.

Also some are asking why he has not outed mr x or mr y and so forth.

But some claim that two majors to be outed are Hastert and Rove.

I report only what I have seen, not that I give it any validity. Could just be a wishful troll.

clarice

SG-- :eave that issue to the USAtty--I don't think it's a problem.

topsecretk9

Slim...point is it doesn't matter, it's just that these champions of privacy - who say are civil rights are at stake - so cavalierly in Nazi tradition easily do what they claim to despise...


I've often said, who needs the NSA wit democrats in congress!

topsecretk9

our and with, typos

SlimGuy

SG-- :eave that issue to the USAtty--I don't think it's a problem.

Posted by: clarice | October 17, 2006 at 10:22 PM


I agree , just willing to pitch in if necessary.

Sometimes those little details can be over looked.

SlimGuy

TS9

We have had a lot of discussion here and some good investigative work on the Foley issue and the involvement of a lot of people.

As we all know, that has not been restricted to just this blog. The freepers have been on it from the beginning and several other places I visit.

Accidently amoung all that I discovered the alterimage handle Ms Clarice goes by over in freeper land in the middle of chasing a relevant thread but that doesn't matter the thread content was the important part.

If you combine the knowledge developed over several disjoint investigative efforts into this whole situation a larger picture develops.

My fear is that I have somehow missed sources that have in isolation developed something that if others had common knowledge of that could blow this whole thing apart.

The story as I see it so far has several threads working in parallel.

I have viewed enough to get a good clue as to where on the left it links to. But at the moment it still has not developed enough to present a compelling story.

Perhaps this will develop, but someone has taken great care to keep their fingerprints off this issue. That in itself shows that this is no accident.

SlimGuy

TS9

Consolidation of facts from multiple sources sometimes reveals things that can't be seen on the individual source level.

Take this amazing fact, which I can personnaly attest to be true and document.

Weldon is being opposed by a Clinton chosen Sestak who was part of his NSC staff.

Weldon is closely linked to ABLE DANGER

Sestak was , before he made Admiral, the Commander of a destroyer squadron in Mayport , Fl and one of the ships under his command was a ship whose Commanding Officer was one of those who testifed at the ABLE DANGER hearings that Weldon sponsored.

Let me see you comment on the odds of that occurrance.

Plus the Navy higher ups almost booted Sestak twice from his Admiral position, which I could support since I one time had to work directly with him, believe me that was no pleasure.

Look at his donor list to his campaign, it tells a lot.

This is just another case of certain people attempting to remove those who question or endanger their legacy and place someone in position to assist with the down the road enabling of their agenda.

Chess players on the board, the usual political shuffle.

clarice

Well send Weldon a check or write to the Philly Inquirer which is slamming him. He's in trouble.

SlimGuy

Clarice

I agree, plus I already have sent several checks.

I Weldon pulls this out, my prediction is that Sestak will be the Naval clone of Wesley Clark.

Another one of those that thought they were being brought into the group of real players, but was really a boytoy they chose to use as a distraction. If he wins then he becomes a useful pawn, no more no less.

Daddy

"Next post will be on Hastert's land deal. Um-hmm, Oh yeah."

Breaking News: "Unidentified sources tell ABC/CBS/CNN/NBC news tonight, that Republican House Speaker, Dennis Hastert, promised all the members of his High School Wrestling Team Full Nelson's, but wound up welching on that promise, delivering only Half Nelson's instead. We go now to our correspondent on the scene for the latest,..Greg/Andrea/Cokie?"

"It's true Wolf/Katie/Bryan, sources at the high school gym are telling us Speaker Hastert used to threaten to "guillotine" his wrestlers if they didn't succumb to his dictatorial methods, back to you."

"Thanks Greg/Andrea/Cokie. Looks like that Harry Reid story we were finally intending to cover will once again be knocked off the front pages by this new scandal surrounding the Republican Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, involving lying, broken promises, and the alleged threat of torture against innocent young boys in his charge. If the Republican's weren't already heading for defeat in this election, this new scandal ought to finish them for good."

JM Hanes

Clarice:

I just read your article on Armitage and the Quiet Death of Liberty TV. Hardly have the heart to get angry anymore; I swear it just makes me want to cry. A difficult, important, article, well done.

SlimGuy

Even if Sestak prevails, he is the classic definition of an empty suit.

He may eliminate from the national stage a thorn in the Clinton side, not much unlike the today Hillary recant of the climb the mountain man mantra.

Perhaps he will be groomed and schooled into the mantra to present, but from what I know of his personality he is not one that takes well to harness.

Many possibilities, and amoung them some that can come back to haunt you.

SlimGuy

Clarice

I to give support to Jm's sentiments. Your article was compelling and thoughtfull. A standard we know you embolden.

Oh by the by, take all your old pantyhose and throw them to annomiss , I am sure he/she can use them in their latest Joe Namath impersonation strategy.

Just a thought.

SlimGuy

On the other hand that zit may try to sell them on EBAY!
Oh well some times first thoughts don't work out.

It's called life, something few know how to deal with.

Sara (Squiggler)

I was thinking of
Senior
Citizens for
Responsibility and
Ethics in
Washington

Absolutely perfect. We need to get this going. I'll donate my SeniorPal site to the effort. Change the name and some of the sidebar entries, and it can be up and running in just a couple of days.

Go to http://seniorpal.pal2pal.com and register and see all the features a user can use. I have never taken this site public and I quit working on it with the last back injury, so it is just sitting there waiting.

The Pal2Pal blog that is attached to the site has never been launched. The posts that are there are samples just for filler as I was putting it all together. If we wanted to include it, it would be a simple matter to delete the sample posts and change the logo to anything we come up with. However, the Senior Pal site has individual journals available to registered users too.

How can we raise enough money to cover the costs of setting up a nonprofit and a few other minor expenses like domain registration for S.C.R.E.W. or whatever we decide on. I do love that name. LOL.

Bob

http://www.observer.com/20061023/20061023_Chris_Lehmann_pageone_newsstory6.asp>Angry Data Nerds Rain on Democratic Parade

Looks like Hillary and friends are making a move on the Dems... she's also probably behind the attention on Reid. She wants the leaders job as a launching platform for the WH.

And they call Republicans fascists!

Bob

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-grandin18oct18,0,5621250.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail>The Democrats' Iran-Contra Lesson
Party leaders who promise tough congressional oversight should remember how it didn't work for them after the 1986 midterm election.

But if they want to avoid again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they must do what their counterparts 20 years ago failed to do. They must challenge the crusading ideology that justified the invasion of Iraq and has made war the option of first resort for this administration.

Otherwise, no matter how many probes they convene — or congressional seats they pick up — the Democrats will always be dancing to Ollie's tune.

Interesting comment, however the problem for the Dems again is they all voted for the war.

Pofarmer

They must challenge the crusading ideology that justified the invasion of Iraq and has made war the option of first resort for this administration.

Ya mean like with N Korea?

The stupidity of the left knows no bounds.

SunnyDay

Bob - you would think they would learn something, wouldn't you?

The on again off again foreign policy, manipulated for political gain, comtempt for the military, the public's reaction - and here we are, on the verge of a repeat.

I remember. I bet a lot of people remember. No wonder the left freaked when Reagan's funeral caused a spontaneous national day of mourning.

clarice

Thanks, JMH and SG.

Greg D

Your Google search isn't finding anything.

clarice

Sara, I think we should wait until after the election to work this out.

Daddy

Thanks Clarice. Just read JMH's link to your latest article. Outstanding and depressing. Makes me want to go put on Diana Kralls' version of an old Fred Astaire tune, "Pick Yourself up, Dust yourself off, Start all over again." Worth a listen if you want to get cheered up some time. Cheers.

The Unbeliever

They must challenge the crusading ideology that justified the invasion of Iraq and has made war the option of first resort for this administration.

They must be using large buckets to pass out the stupid pills over at the LAT. Last I checked, Iran was being dealt with diplomatically through the UN and EU (both of whom are botching the deal with dangerously inadequate results); Syria was still remarkably un-invaded; Pakistan was flipped into a nominal ally; Libya dropped their WMD program, exposing the Khan network, without a single Marine getting deployed there; and NK is flouncing around being "insulted" by 6-party talks.

Most notably, of the two countries we have gone to war with, Iraq was hardly invaded as a first resort. Or did the LAT forget the ludicrously long months Bush and Powell spent at the UN, trying to get Saddam to comply with inspections for once in the 12 years he had been defying the UN? (During which time our surveillance saw truck convoys heading from Iraqi military facilities into Syria--hmm, I wonder what they might have been trying to hide there thanks to the months of warning...) In reality, if you want to throw the "war as first resort" at Bush the only evidence you have for it is Afghanistan, and then only weakly.

clarice

Daddy, thanks. I'm noodling over another piece inspired by Gertz' new book, "Enemies", and it's even more depressing I'm afraid.

Wilson's a Liar

2 things:

1. Somebody needs to look beyond Harry Reid's foolishness with tips to his condo employees to the circumstances of the purchase of that condo. He paid $700,000 CASH for it. Probably well under market value, as that Ritz building was touted as the most expensive condo ever built in D.C. Units there went for well over a million dollars. And it was built by Millenium Partners, a New York developer whose two principals just happen to be HUGE contributors to Democrats and the DSCC. One of them gave $30,000 to the DSCC this year. And this condo is clear across town from Capitol Hill. Reid has enough money to buy any home he wants in DC; why buy this one? Why not a nice townhouse on the Hill? And why pay cash and not get a mortgage with tax-deductible interest? Could Dirty Harry be laundering campaign contributions through this development firm and getting a sweetheart below-market deal on a condo to boot? Sure looks like it to me.

2. I had lunch today with a colleague who lives in Curt Weldon's district. He told me that Weldon's constituent service and pork production for the district is legendary, and if Joe Sestak does manage to win based on this manufactured investigation, he will be thrown out in two years because he does not have a clue what people in that district expect of a congressman - especially if he just turns into a Hillary lapdog as everyone expects him to. If Weldon is exonerated he will come back in 2008 and beat Sestak.

Jane

Weldon was exonerated when they investigated him on the same charges in 2004.

I'm not sure I'm crazy about a congressperson who has bragging rights in pork production.

I completely agree about the necessity for a complete Reid investigation.

Larry

Wasn't/isn't there a magazine called Screw? I'd hate to see JOMers zapped by copyright infringement. Sigh. Perfect name, tho.

Neo

They must challenge the crusading ideology

Of course, this all goes back to what Bob Dole called the "vision thing."

The Democrats, six years after the 2000 election, are still without a vision of the future. In fact, in their blindness, they are still fighting over the 2000 & 2004 elections. Those who are stuck in the past, are doomed to repeat it. It's much like "Groundhog Day" except you keep reliving it because you want to hear Sonny and Cher when you wake every morning.

Meanwhile calls for "smarter" policy are like wishing for a sunny day, they happen every so often without any help from anybody. Besides, if Kerry was smarter, he'd be President now.

Hillary's "oil trust", and Kerry's "summit of neighbors" may be part of a future Iraq strategy (and the Iraqis are going to do them only when they meet their purposes and not before), but these pieces are not a "vision". Totally ignoring that Usama bin Laden has declared Baghdad the center of his new caliphate, these proposals don't address just what is to be done with the few hundred or so Jihadists that went through UBL's training and are still on the loose, not to mention the newbie volunteers.. Rather they seem to ignore the whole "al Qaeda thing" as just so much bad noise that should just go away.

Shoot, there isn't even a clear domestic "vision" except to have every new program add to their union buddies membership roles. At least, the unions have a "vision," a small one, but one nonetheless. Meanwhile, the Democrats are just deaf and dumb in both eyes.

Sara (Squiggler)

Do his contituents realize this is another witchhunt and led by the disgruntled in the FBI/CIA? Weldon was very outspoken and quite harsh in his criticism over Abel Danger, as well he should have been. But, he is paying for it now. This is payback and a warning to others not to get too close to those who use leaks and smear tactics to get their advantages.

I wrote to Curt Weldon last year with a very generic letter of support after watching him in the Abel Danger Congr. hearings. I got back a beautiful letter from him and full of personal references to my own letter that made it clear that he'd answered himself and not some dumb staffer doing it for him. I was very impressed. A few months later, I got a follow up that was more than my name on some mailing list. The second letter referred to 2 points I'd made in my first letter that Mr. Weldon had researched and was following up on with answers to questions I'd asked a few months earlier. Again, I was impressed.

I think his District will lose a very good friend if they fail to return him to office. I hope they realize this.

clarice

Wilson--He may have bought the condo at a bargain pre-construction price. Most housing in D.C. is expensive. For someone back home or on the road a lot, with grown children an apartment in a full service building makes a great deal more sense than a townhouse and one can take a subway not far from his condo and be at the Capitol in minutes. It's not a far trip even by car.

I once owned a coop here and you had to pay in cash. Perhaps he sold a prior home and had cash. We are a bit behind on financing coops. If it is a condo he may have been able to finance it thru a mortgage.

hit and run

clarice: I once owned a coop here

Aha! I knew it. A coop. A place to keep all the little chickenhawks in line. Mother hen indeed.

hit and run

Truth is sranger than fiction.


The Harry REIT Real Estate Seminar

WHAT: Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, (FHLBank San Francisco) will co-host a homebuyer fair to increase first-time homebuyers in the Las Vegas valley. The fair will include English and Spanish language workshops to provide valuable information that will help first- time homebuyers.

Participants will learn how to qualify for home loans, repair their credit, and access up to $25,000 in down payment assistance. The fair is a collaborative effort of the FHLBank San Francisco in partnership with financial services and housing community leaders to increase first-time homebuyers through education and access to affordable housing programs. Since 1990, the FHLBank San Francisco has awarded more than $12 million to 55 affordable housing projects in Nevada to increase the supply of affordable housing. The event is free and open to the public. Activities for children will also be available.

WHEN: Saturday, Oct. 21 (Light lunch will be provided to program participants) 10 a.m. until 2 p.m. (Doors will open at 9:30 a.m.)

WHERE: Advance Technology Academy, 2501 Vegas Dr., Las Vegas, NV 89106

Media contact to RSVP and schedule interviews: Kimberley Bailey, 702-254-7154 or 702-743-9613

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