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October 27, 2006

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SunnyDay

Did anyone filch that article? I refuse to pay the NYT to read their drivel.

Rick Ballard

Here's AP.

The Mediacrat sleuths apparently don't know how to type out that FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATE STAFFER LANE HUDSON is the complete description of the Democratic gay baiter.

Jane

Sunny Day,

I posted some of the story and the links in the last topic. Gay Patriot has a lot of links as well.

verner

Yeah Jane. Amazing how little interest this has generated! Gay Patriot has done some great work, as has our very own Slim Guy.

Now all we need is a link from Zack Stanton to Lane Hudson. Bet there is one! I seriously doubt the moonbat left progressive community is all that large in the Detroit area--and it was Lane's job to "make friends." Ray Wert and little Zack would have been just his type.

anon

These stories are from before Hudson's name came out, I think. Of course the ace reporters at the Times did not exert themselves in trying to get to the bottom of this. What we've learned so far has been in spite of the press rather than thanks to them.

Enlightened

Call me crazy but I don't trust SOS.

Good sleuthing - yes. But I do believe the sleuthing has been enhanced by prior knowledge.

I think "bait" would be a good buzzword right about now.

I'm just sayin.

SunnyDay

Thanks - yes I had read that post at gaypatriot.com

verner

E: I think "bait" would be a good buzzword right about now.

I'm just sayin.

I had that same feeling too. Something about SOS just doesn't smell right. Most bloggers would be more than happy to put their names out there--and wouldn't keep changing posts etc. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Radar has outed Hudson though, and I assume that they would have more to go on that just the SOS blog. And we have not gotten very much new from SOS that can't be verified with other sources.

SlimGuy

The SOS blogger and I have been swapping emails today..sorry most of what we have been discussing he won't allow for release.

But I am getting some good pointers and that is a two way street.

He does confirm that LH was his target, and I wish I could tell ya what he did to shake him up but I promised not to.

SlimGuy

Enlightened

I will vouch for SOS guy, he is on the up and up.

SlimGuy

He was also a part of the take down known as RatherGate

SlimGuy

May not have anything to do with this at all but everything Royal Oak is worth turning up

Seems Sander M Levin (D MI-12) who is the brother of Carl Levin (D MI).

Sander lives in Royal Oak
Carl lives in Detroit

verner

All of that is good to know Slim Guy.

Please tell me all of this will be hitting the front pages before the midterms, and that a few people will be getting a little frog march courtesy of the FBI.

From what I've been reading, Hudson had some pretty interesting contacts in the democrat world. And I would not let the name Jon Stryker slip off the radar either. He seems to be the George Soros of "gay rights" democrats.

Did you read my post where Stryker gave $100,000 to the Fla. GLTB community's GOTV effort in 2004? (So obviously, Stryker has an interest in Fla. politics.) He is based in MI, and heavily funds the MI moonbats. Bet you his hirlings (including, it appears Hudson) are heavily involved.

anon

Is Enlightened the same Enlightened who posted a 5000 word essay explaining how Bush was behind 911?

In any case I agree; SOS is playing his own game and not telling anyone what it is.

r flanagan

So is the implication that SOS should not have published the Foley emails? Personally I feel sorry for Foley (altho I root for the defeat of any republican ) disapprove of outing ,and believe that sexual orientation is already determined by 16 .
But it's possible to imagining a tragedy resulting from these contacts and any one who had the information and failed to disclose it would have partial responsiblity.Not defending SOS's motives, but his actions.

anon

I don't see much of a role here for the FBI I'm afraid. Perhaps the initial leaking of the emails violated a law, and maybe Edmunds would like to sue whoever leaked his IM's. Outside of that there are no obvious grounds for criminal action. But correct me if I'm wrong.

hit and run

anon:
In any case I agree; SOS is playing his own game and not telling anyone what it is.

Me too. I was expressing this in another thread.

SlimGuy - in your emails with SOS - you say he's on the up and up - fine, but what is his agenda? Put the cards out on the table. Maybe there is something going on to prevent this - but if so, at least he should say so. Something, anything. It's all too slippery.

r flanagan

"implication that SOS should not have published the Foley emails?" Me, above.

SOS was wrong. It's Stop Sex
Predators whom I'm defending of course. Sorry.

SlimGuy

R flanagan

SOS did not publish the emails SSP did, SOS dug up who the SSP blogger is

anon

r flanagan

It's possible to imagine a lot of things, but a tragedy resulting from these contacts is not one of them. You are allowing your politics to cloud your judgement, a common affliction among Democrats.

SlimGuy

H&R

The authorities know all he knows.

Right now, he isn't telling me his objectives, but I could speculate from all the emails we have swapped today.

Part, and only part of it is he is concerned with dirty tricks and Mi election results.

He is not from Mi either.

SunnyDay

r flanagan,

You need to go back and read some of the earlier Foley threads. SOS was started late in the game, to track down the origin of the emails.

Stopsexpredators was the site with the emails.

The thesis here (condensed version) is that HRC was involved (they deny it) and that dem operatives had the instant messages as well as the emails, as much as a year ago. The emails were shopped around to the media with no takers, until ABC bit - probably because they knew that the instant messages would follow. stopsexpredators was the means of getting the emials out to the public (and the media).

But all of it was known months ago, held back until October, for maximum effect. So, while crying "the children, the children" dem operatives held onto the instant messages for months rather than turn them over to authorities. They had turned the emails over to FBI, who said "no crime." But all along they had the instant messages waiting - they just needed to get the emails out to the public.

MayBee

As I've said, the SSP blog went up before LH worked for HRC. So he didn't start the blog with information he got from his job there.
Although he said on the Milwalkee blog that he had begun interviewing with them almost a year ago.
He also said on that blog that some Arkansas guy, Drew Pritt, had hit on him in the past.

I don't know why SSP started or how much info he had, but he had it prior to going to MI with HRC.

SlimGuy

For a hard to find blog with only 3 comments total on 8 post in the first for months to attract 37 comments the day they posted the foley emails is unusual.

I reviewed the comments of that post today and there are three commentors of interest

Mike Rogers
Steve Rothaus Miami Hearld
Wild Bill PassionateAmerica

SlimGuy

I can confirm SOS was a source for the AP story that TM linked last in his post

SlimGuy

Verner

I agree Stryker is a player in this.

Also SOS won't say who, but LH was not working alone.

hit and run

SG - I really appreciate the work you've done on this. I can't possibly imagine ever being able to personally do that. But, having said that, and referencing a post on another thread, my head is now spinning...for the goooood reasons.

I have probably given up on SOS. You let us know when there is real news to be had.

SlimGuy

H&R

This is only SPECULATION but I think the timing of what is happening may have something to do with helping out the FBI.

Take that for whatever you will

SlimGuy

There are more than one trap being baited here

SlimGuy

On another note, I can't say who, but I am in contact via email and working back and forth with an ex page not involved in the JE mess but who was in the same class

jerry

Well, if the Republican leadership is doing the page-gate osterich... I suppose it would be traitorous of the loyal opposition not to do their best to fit right in?

Grey mail 'em, it's all tip-top secret somehow.

hit and run

SG - thanks. I trust you. Not SOS. I'll be checking here. (ok, I can't deny I'll still be checking SOS, but with a grain of salt exponentially sized)

I do truly believe there is so much more there there. I do have doubts that it will be exposed, so very unfortunately.

But dude - seriously - reading about your access dB stuff.........it made me think - if you worked at CIA - and were doing this without a FISA warrant....heh...

Other Tom

Seems to me the Republican leadership has come out publicly and stated what it did and did not know and do, and has taken questions from the press. I'm not saying the loyal opposition--which has done nothing of the kind--is traitorous, merely unprincipled.

MayBee

Verner-
Here is the list of sponsors of LH's event in Lansing. How does this compare to Stryker's groups?
---

The Human Rights Campaign, along with Michigan Equality, Triangle Action Fund, EMILY’s List, ACLU, Planned Parenthood, National Organization for Women, Michigan Citizen Action and other Progressive organizations are EXCITED to sponsor this GOTV Rally. Come join members of your community in learning the BEST way to make an impact in the upcoming election! For more information, email Lane.Hudson@hrc.org . We look forward to working together for a successful election!
---

SlimGuy

H&R

I have a server room here that is about the size of a 4 car garage.

My trading room I am sitting in has 10 computers with 45 screens total

I sit at a central swivel chair with a wireless keyboard and mouse and all my common commands are voice activated if I choose to go that route.

Enlightened

Enlightened is NOT ENLIGHTENMENT - the 9/11 conspiracy nutball...some moron using my nic (or close to it)

SlimGuy

Calif. fire reward for who started the fire up to $500,000

hit and run

SG - swivel away!

My dad is a retired dentist and as a kid growing up we used to love going to his office on weekends, where we had the run of the place. The BEST part was playing with the automated chairs with the legs up and down and head rest, etc. But the second best was the swivel chairs he would sit in. We would spin in those until we would lose our balance and fall out - and laugh our heads off.

You just went down a half a notch in my mind because now I picture you as an eight year old playing in a dentist's office. heh. Just kidding.

Verner

mayBee:

Stryker is the major funder of Coalition for Progress per a MI political blog I read. But I would imagine that he is a backer of many,if not most MI GLTB orgs, and quite a few democrats. The only way to know would be to check the Tax returns, and even then the names don't always show up. Democrats are masters at laundering money through non-profits. Heck, that's why they set up the Tides Foundation, and PR "firms" like Fenton communications in the first place. David Horowitz is writing quite literally when he calles them the shaddow party.

Stryker might funnell money through Arcus and the Gill foundation, and Tides as well. And I wonder if Jon Stryker doesn't also have Rogers connections.

Another area to investigate. It seems that Lane Hudson was parked at Earth Force for a while--which appears to be a typical enviro-front group for progressive dem types.

Also, while HRC claims that Lane Hudson just started working for them--there is ample proof on the web that he was an HRC employee in Wis. in 2004. Lane Hudson is no "junior" member. He is almost 30 for crissakes, and has some pretty high up contacts in dem party circles it would appear.

I would really really like to know if Lane Hudson crossed paths with either Ray Wert or Zack Stanton--or if they have a mutual friend who facilitated matters. Well, somebody knows...

SlimGuy

Verner

Right now I am part of a loose knit group of about 6 independent people working on connecting the dots, we are considering doing a more coordinated effort to leverage our resources.

Rick Ballard

Slim,

Anything touching CREW yet? Busting those slime balls would be worth two HRC's.

The crime here could be a violation of charter and involve the IRS going after CREW and HRC on a series of tax and election matters.

I'm sure glad that Keating 5 McCain got all that dirty money out of politics.

SlimGuy

Rick

Some links to CREW but no smoking gun

On tap for this weekend to do list is feeding all names (including the ones they don't advertise) thru one of my robot web spiders and let it do it's magic.

verner

Oh heck year RB. If they can prove that HRC employees were involved in a political dirty trick, and phone records show co-ordination between CREW and HRC--they'll have a whole heap of trouble with Uncle Sam. And I would imagine, there are FBI agents lining up to stick it to Ms. Sloan after all the garbage she has tried to pull. The feds might just take being called liars a little personal.

And another thing. The kiddies in Michigan would never have tried to pull this off without permission from the adults in D.C. I would love to see little Lane's cell phone/email log. Any guesses about who's there?

SlimGuy

Verner

Especially if they get all his cell phones not just the HRC one

MayBee

Zack's back blogging at Detroit wonk.
Picture and everything. Looks like Loraditch.

verner

Slim, if I can help, let me know. The way the "progressive' left operates, co-ordination is a must.

A little advise on connecting the dots with these creeps. The org. names are meaningless--nothing but shells. Follow the individuals, their social networks and the money.

MayBee

Slim Guy- go ask him on his blog if he's the WaPo's source for the IMs.

SlimGuy

maybee

From past experience I find it is much better to lurk than confront, the minute I do that he tracks my ip off the web log and I become a known quantity that can be "shared with the group"

MayBee

MayBee,

I noticed that Zack was back too. I just wonder, however, now that Hudson has been outed, how long he will keep it up?

That boy has some explaining to do...

MayBee

Sorry SG. I was really just double-dog daring you. You notice I didn't post there.

Verner (posting as me! :-0 )
Either he has nothing to hide, or he's posting again trying to look like he has nothing to hide. I think he started up AFTER LH was outed (so to speak).

SlimGuy

BTW Big Time

Was reviewing my emails with SOS guy today and taking some cut and paste notes and realized he mentioned something to me that I DID NOT mention in the email traffic.

The comment he made was about a earlier post I made here today

so he is Lurking HERE

verner

It was an accident MB!

Anyhow, I think he's acting.

1. He was skin tight with Loraditch and Edmund.

2. He was one of the Page Alum board's administrators, and might have even stolen the IMS, if Edmund didn't outright share them with him.

3. He is an insider with the MI democrat moonbats--as we know for sure through his association with Ray Wert.

Certainly the #1 suspect for sourcing those IMs.

SlimGuy

I am truthfully greatful to see someone finally giving Allan Sherman his credit that is due. Keep Up the good work!
Zack Stanton
New Baltimore, MI USA -

anon

Maybe one of us is SOS!!!
Da da DAH!

MayBee

Yes, let's not forget he knew the big breakdown in understanding between Loraditch and Edmunds.
Loraditch said publicly he knew who had the IMs. The WaPo described Loraditch and Stanton to a T.
I think it's interesting that Zack's profile is even back online, when it wasn't there before.

SlimGuy

Blog with lots on Stryker
http://michigan.typepad.com/politicsmichigan/

Dave in W-S

Okay, you want tie-ins and connections? You want to see the state of Michigan keep popping up? I'm not sure what all this means, because my brain is still reeling after screen after screen of search results, but:

January 2002
- Lane Hudson is a staffer for Dem. Senator Hollings
- Zachary Stanton, of New Baltimore, MI, is a page for Rep Bonoir (D-MI)
- Edmund Jordan is a page
- A group of 6 pages departs in January '02, one of whom is Zachary Stanton. Of the other 5, I am pretty certain I have located 3, to wit:

- Lindsey Beck, orig. from Arizona, is now a legislative assistant for Rep Kildee (D-MI)
- Ashley Gallo, orig. from Macomb, MI, was sponsored as a page by Rep Bonoir (D-MI). She is now a senior at Western Michigan and very active in the student newspaper. Has also been interviewed on the Foley thing by NPR and others.
- Jennifer Hsieh, orig. from Texas. I am not as certain of this, but things seem to fit. A Jennifer Hsieh is at the U. of Michigan and is very active in the local branch of whatever they call the Ayn Rand Club. In fact, she won an essay contest - her winning essay is here and I thought some of the sentiments in it were rather interesting in terms of justifying political
activism -

The first man to refuse a mentality of guilt and suffering takes God’s job of purifying the world in his own hands, leading worthy followers in becoming the first race of moral men. He unites those who live and interact as humans should, giving them an environment where their passion for life will prosper; he offers them the world as it should be. Here each man will live as a creator by the oath that the true standard of morality is the sacredness of man’s life.

- Gregory Hyde and Matthew Dinusson I had no luck in tracking.
- Edmund Jordan, who works for a Republican congressman and had some old emails/IMs "outed" (Was this the first of the "gay Republican outings", even though Jordan may not be gay?)

So on to the 2006 confluence in Michigan for the Page Class of '02, et al.
- Lindsey Beck, who migrated from Arizona to work for Michigan congressman Kildee;
- Zachary Stanton, who was Michigan congressman Bonoir's page in '02 and is directly implicated in the Foley e-mail/IM tangle;
- Ashley Gallo, who is from Michigan, was sponsored for the page program by Rep. Bonoir, and is now getting national face time talking to reporters about the page scandal and the stories that all the pages used to tell about Foley's conduct;
- Jennifer Hsieh, orig. from Texas, now possibly at U. of Michigan and possibly into an Ayn Rand mode for political action, where the strong do what has to be done to make the world right;

Oh, and let's not forget Lane Hudson, who was a staffer for Sen Fritz Hollings (D-SC) in '02, then went to work for former SC Gov Jim Hodges in '03, supposedly as a staffer, but in Jan '03, Hodges launched a political consulting group, so who knows what Lane actually did. In '04, Hudson was a delegate to the Dem National Convention (what did he do to get that plum?), then went to Wisconsin, where he and a group of other operators "...kept Wisconsin BLUE and had a great time doing it..." Reminder - Wisconsin went Kerry by a little over 11,000 votes amid many blatant instances of voter fraud. After a stint with ACORN, he shows up a couple of months ago in Michigan, as a Regional Field organizer for HRC, getting out the gay and lesbian vote. And oh yes, he is also reputed to be the guy who launched the whole page scandal by setting up a bogus blog and infiltrating the info into legitimate blog and news channels - although I could find no evidence that he has demonstrated any of those particular skills before.
- Coincidentally, one of Lane's Wisconsin buddies is CJ Frogozo, who is linked through the Courage Campaign with Chris Bowers, the MyDD blogger who just days ago called for Dem nutroot followers to Google bomb the election. Also coincidentally, Bowers does have that kind of skill set and no doubt is acquainted with a number of other skilled people.

I have to go with what the wise man said, "I believe in coincidence. I just don't believe in too many coincidences."

verner

It might as well be up there MayBee. We've all known everything it says for weeks now--and I even found a pic of him via google.

I think that at this point for it to stay down would be more suspicious than putting it up.

Oh, and I promise, I am not SOS--though I would not be surprised that he (or she) would lurk here. I would imagine many interesting people do.

SlimGuy

Verner it's a he, straight, married 2 kids

SlimGuy

You all remember the 1st trap email he sent to the SSP blogger address, well he told me what the content of the message body was and I blew coffee out my nose IT WAS THAT GOOD!

I know LH had to pucker up real good with what he sent him.

MayBee

verner-
one of LH's Wisconsin buddies is now working the gay legislative agenda in Colorado- which is the other big Stryker state.
Let me find that link.

verner

SG, Who do you mean?

As for Frogozo and "Courage Campaign", here's an interesting twist:

Richard Jacobs is co-founder and chair of Brave New Films as well as Chair of the Courage Campaign, an independent political committee on progressive issues in California. He chaired the presidential campaign of Howard Dean in California and serves as Senior Advisor to Democracy for America. He is a featured contributor to Arianna Huffington's huffingtonpost.com.
Mr. Jacobs is actively involved in a number of community organizations and serves on several private and public policy boards including: a Director of the Liberty Hill Foundation; a member of the Board of ANGLE; a member of the Board of Visitors of the University of Tennessee College of Liberal Arts; and a member of the Pacific Council on International Policy. He also has a long history of success in the private sector, where he founded Newstar, Inc. an investment and advisory firm focused on the former USSR where he remains active. Mr. Jacobs serves frequently as a commentator and speaker on national politics, having appeared on The News Hour with Jim Lehrer and NPR.

Meet the rest of Brave New Films

And the rest of Brave New Films includes Robert Greenwald. Now, whop was it again who contacted the pages to make the movie? LOL

verner

Refresher course on Robert Greenwald.

Robert Greenwald is a producer, director and political activist. Greenwald is the director/producer of “Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price” (2005), a documentary that uncovers the retail giant's assault on families and American values and "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" (2004). He also executive produced a trilogy of political documentaries: "Unprecedented: The 2000 Presidential Election" (2002); "Uncovered: The Iraq War" (2003), which Greenwald also directed; and "Unconstitutional" (2004). Brave New Films, Greenwald's new media company, is working on telling stories using film that will influence the debates about the most important issues of the day and is currently in production on two series— the “ACLU Freedom Files” and “The Sierra Club Chronicles” – which can be seen on Link TV and via the internet. More →

SlimGuy

SG, Who do you mean?

SOS = straight, married 2 kids

Dave in W-S

Maybee,

Would that be "Bad Andy" Szekeres?

verner

Guess who is on the Page board right now reading the index:

User's local time Oct 28 2006, 01:06 AM
Total Cumulative Posts 1,058
( 0.1 posts per day / 11.06% of total forum posts )
Most active in
( posts / 0% of this member's active posts )
Last Active Today, 09:02 PM
Status (Reading Board Index)

Adelaidemocrat!

Dave in W-S

Andy Szekeres in CO

MayBee

Yes, that's him.

Hey, this is OT, but what is this about on the WI GoTV group board:
Kris Schultz < schultzydc@...> wrote:

I've been working with Bob Cramer on a project, and he is the husband of the Congresswoman who's people organized all those great buses from Chicago. What is the name of their fella who worked with that? I am totally blanking on his name, and I wanted to thank Bob for all the work his people did for us back then.

Brian B, you'll surely know. Y'all remember?
---

Great buses from Chicago? Were there people on them?

Dave in W-S

verner, that makes me wonder if someone isn't monitoring JOM. I haven't seen a lot of other discussions going on. Not to this depth, anyway.

Hi out there! Feeling a little exposed? Wait, it gets better. Remember that time... Oh well, we'll get there in due course. Just keep lurking.

verner

Too bad for Zack--it's all been cached and saved!

By the way slimguy, do you remember the name of the hollywood producer who contacted the pages through the board and wanted to make a movie? Was it Linda Greenwald? Too late to go digging through my papers.

Maybee, I guess the ran out of dead people in WI...LOL.

MayBee

OMG, verner! You're right, he was looking at the page board again!

Dave in W-S

Maybee, Maybee. (Sigh) Surely you remember the buses? They had a fleet of tour buses loaded with "voters" from out of state, who came in to vote. Had local people standing by to vouch for them if necessary. "Yeah, these are my cousins. And this bus load here is my other cousins."

They went on a tour of Wisconsin, stopping to vote, then getting back on the bus and heading off to vote agian. It was a big deal at the time, unless you happened to be Democrat, then it was just Rethuglican lies.

JessJoshin

Don't be so worked up about Foley...after all no good Republican ever uses bookmarks...they prefer to bend over the pages...

SlimGuy

Dave

I have found some comments about things going on here at some nutroots blogs

Have a look over at FreeRepublic they have a lot of good Foleygate research


Verner not sure sounds right, remember that is one of 4 different public greenwald family members

SlimGuy

Jess

Right I saw the original post of that over in DU dummie land

MayBee

Janet Greenwald and Laura Greenwald.

SlimGuy

Not sure but believe they were also related to Jeff Greenwald the blogger

have to check

MayBee

Dave in W-S,
I'm sorry, sometimes I am so naive. I had heard legends of the mighty Chicago-Milwakee bus tours of aught-four. To see it right there on the GoTV Dem website was just shocking for me.

verner

Dave,

I have no doubt they are. As I've said, they never anticipated Jordan Edmund getting outed. When he did, they must have soiled their undergarments.

But with Jordan's name out there, it was quite easy to find the rest.

And there are many very talented people looking into the matter who do not post on the internet. I think the NYT let a little drip out because they had to, in order not to get caught with their pants down yet again. Now we have Lane Hudson's name. There is much much more coming.

And if you want to get the Repub base pissed off and to the polls, show a MI connection between the IMs and e-mail--proving that this was a filthy trick with months of preparation behind it. Protect the children indeed.

MayBee

It looks like Matt was online again today, too.
Maybe they feel they can come out of hiding again, now that LH has been publicly taken down.
Will they fire up the page board again?

SlimGuy

Maybee

I have one file that has about 20 to 30 links that I found on some of the pages that started going poof when all this hit after JE was named.

Every sunday morning I go back to see if they are back active

topsecretk9

--Jeff Greenwald the blogger--

That would be GLENN, right???

See, this is my slight problem. Are leftist on some weird covert blog campaign trying to infiltrate conservative blogs to flood the comments with "key" words?

And I am not "buying" SOS...it is too slow roll out, and so I am thinking SOS is a part of SSP in order to blunt the littlegreenfootballs ultimate ingenuous honeypot.

SOS asks tonight (which I am sure will disappear -- Have you read my other blog -- with NO link


I think SOS is just a default damage control front...BS in order to rid of the whole thing...


SOS to me = SSP now...I need WAYYY more to be convinced otherwise.

verner

Will they fire up the page board again?

I doubt it MB, it's kind of served its purpose don't you think?

SlimGuy

maybe the page board is running, they just took down all the historic message bases.

The membership list and stats on all the users are as they were when it went down.

They don't seem to want anyone trolling thru all the old boards

SOS aka GTL

Yes, I am a lurkin'. This IS an interesting place. SG and I have been chatting. I understand (hit and run) that I am a little cagey, I have my reasons.

I strongly encourage all of you to keep investigating. Don't just google all day long, make some phone calls. Trust me!

LH's social connections will reveal all (of course, his professional connections are one in the same in his "line of business").

Eyes on the prize, Violet, eyes on the prize (a silly little line from my little one's favorite movie).

GTL

SlimGuy

TS9

SOS is the real deal, I fully vouch for him but I am not allowed to say how I know that

He did provide proof to me that I verified.

In fact I had to give him some info on me he verified so we both know that we are on the up and up.

He does have another blog, but talking to this guy sometimes is like woodward talking to deepthroat, some of his answers are like riddles.

anon

I found an address for Lane of 504 Seward Sq, DC. That may be from when he was an aide to Hollings. If not, it looks interesting.

topsecretk9

Posted by: SOS aka GTL

--Eyes on the prize, Violet, eyes on the prize (a silly little line from my little one's favorite movie).--

Alright...but it is TOO dang cryptic and very little incentive...

It does reming me of the wildbilll passion guy who was acting like he was holding back but not really

it's dumb.

If all we had to do was make phone calls - then - um


WHY AREN'T YOU?

Dave in W-S

There are undoubtedly two major groupings of people who are responsible for the kind of voter fraud and political dirty tricks we have seen getting more and more prevalent in recent years. One group we will take down. The other...well, they will be harder.

The first group are mostly true believers salted with delinquents. They naively believe that their cause is right and that they are justified in doing whatever it takes to win. They think they are smarter than anyone else, and therefore they leave tracks, because we are not smart enough to find them. These are the ground level operators and the dirty trick implementers. They have the dirty hands and they are the ones that are most vulnerable.

The other group are pros. They are the professional politicians and political staffers who may have knowledge of what is going on in the field, but aren't going to get too close to it. They will foster it, but at a distance and they will make certain that when anyone gets hung out to dry it isn't them.

I was wrong, there is a third group. The smarter young ones, the ones who are heading places, but who share beliefs with the first group. They are the support groups and probably the go betweens between the field reps and the front office. Thety are vulnerable because of their contacts with the rowdies. Their vulnerability makes the shadow group also vulnerable.

/Ludlum mode off

anon

SOS, if you told me the sun would rise in the east tomorrow morning, I'd seek independant verification. There's something squirrely about you.

topsecretk9

Sorry Slim and everyone...but I call BS (I do not think I am alone here)

SOS is BS.

SOS was created to to make one fall guy an rid of the story and I would not be surprised if SOS was not in the plan.


SOS is bullshit...and if it WERE a conservative they would not be toying in this cryptic day by day CRAP like Mike Rogers.


SOS + Mike Rogers in my book.

MayBee

I want to know what the "sometimes I am right, but not always" meant.

topsecretk9

anon-

I am with you.

SlimGuy

Dave

some people have gone to great lengths to keep their fingerprints off this whole mess

there are links out there to be found and also there are a lot of false stuff being put out on some blogs to frustrate the search.

SOS aka GTL

I have been making phone calls, folks. I logged about 30 today.

Always seek independent verification. That's the way to get the truth.

And please... eyes on the prize is a silly little line from the new Willy Wonka (which we watch pretty much every night in my house). The point is straight up: our goal is simple, out this bullshit, all the way to the top, don't get distracted.

SlimGuy

TS9

He tells me he has very good reasons and I take him at his word, that is all I can say.

Verner

GTL (SOS)

There are any number of trustworthy, high profile bloggers who would pick up the ball and run with it, if you would just let them know what you have thus far. LGF, American Thinker, AJ Strata, Macsmind, Hugh Hewitt, Powerlineblog, Sweetness and Light--just to name a few off the top of my head. Get what you have to them, privately if you must. Let the word get out there. Share what you have so that other talented bloggers can get to work on it.

You've got to admit, the way you are doing things looks mighty suspicious.

MayBee

OT again, from that WI board.
Anyone else getting calls from the FBI?

Martin
Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:05 pm

anon

We would still not have Lanes name if we had to depend on SOS. Somebody else put that one out.

So this sudden urging to make phone calls looks pretty lame.

If you have knowledge put in into the pool so that we do not have to waste our time retracing your steps.

SlimGuy

TS

I am emailing two people right now

SOS and a member of the 2001 2002 page class
I will not identify either, or post about anything they specifically say do not post.

The page I am talking to is NOT involved in this mess and is just giving me background and opinions of questions I ask.

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