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October 04, 2006

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topsecretk9

Why in the world does Rogers and the left care whether or not Drudge is gay? Seriously, what a bunch of prigs.

norm d'plume

taken Mr. Hay's words out of context and put them in to a much slimier context,

Kind of like how your ilk are portraying the initial innocuous e-mails.

Enlightened

Ok - Did y'all here this one:

This is Rovian, righ-wing generated plot to prove the point that the internet must be monitored. They outed a known gay in their midst to coverup the plot to generate more publicity for the evil internet, and evil internet users.

STG.

BTW

It's amazing to come back to this site after 20 hours and find you are still trying to spin the same old thing.

Foley resigned! He was a huge liability. Do not be surprised if kids, pages or not, start popping up to tell of far more lurid activities.

The best thing the repugs can do is jettison anyone connected with this mess. If they don't do so now they will not be able to control the damage done by what is to come.

Smoke --> Fire. Any questions?

Sara (Squiggler)

Well anonymous, it hasn't swayed me and I'm certainly neither a have or a have more. I'm flat ass broke, they are about to take my house, I'm disabled, have no income, I've exhausted my savings meant to see me thru retirement, and in another few weeks I'll be blogging on wireless from my car. So don't tell me about the haves and have mores. If you care so much, go donate something to my tip jar and maybe I'll get to eat for the rest of the month. Yeah, didn't think you would.

Rick Ballard

Corn is just pimping hits for Blogactive. PajamsMedia must be so proud to have such a principled progressive on their team.

Enlightened

***generate more publicity** to the fact that the evil internet, and evil internet users need to be monitored more closely.

Gawd. I'm about done for the day.

anonymous

my "ilk" ... that has to be my very favorite Republican-ism. I know it's supposed to sound dismissive and demeaning, but it just sounds funny

Sue

The only question I have is where is the infamous plan that the democrats have been promising since last December? They very well may win both houses and never reveal their plan.

Rick Ballard

"Seriously, what a bunch of prigs."

I think you misspelled that.

sbw

Ooh! If there's an investigation, can we have a perjury trap?

anonymous

Sara, I think you may have mistaken me for one of them "bleeding- heart liberals." (Not that I believe a word of your tale of woe.) But, rattling the old tip jar and crying wolf worked for Jeff Goldstein. I understand he's moving into his brand new home as we type.)

Enlightened

Well I think Drudge was put on The List, today roughly 6 seconds after he blew Edmunds prank......payback - it's a bitch.

anonymous

Who needs a plan when the opposing party keeps tripping over their own dicks?

BTW

Verner

Lets and these to your list:

(4) How many of these "older men" were US congressmen?

(5) What are their names?

topsecretk9

--The only question I have is where is the infamous plan that the democrats have been promising since last December?--

Sue, what we are witnessing is ALL they have to offer...

MayBee

David Corn- I won't print the list, but I'll make sure everyone knows when it's printed!!

Disgusting.

Jane

So Mike Rogers thinks that people should lead with their sexuality. He clearly thinks that is one's most important characteristics. He wants to look at someone and know what it is they do in bed, because apparently that trumps every other factor in their lives.

Mike Rogers sound like the biggest homophobe on the planet to me.

anonymous

By tomorrow, people in Washington will be miffed if they weren't on "the List."

Patton

Ohh yeah, we misunderstood poor harry Hay,

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/02511115.htm

"He was, at times, a serious political embarrassment, as when he consistently advocated the inclusion of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in gay-pride parades.""

Gee, anonymous, any idea what NAMBLA is and why pelosi is marching with an advocate of NAMBLA??

SlimGuy

Something interesting has been brought to my attention. The Blogactive site has posted a version of The List--or a list.


+++++++++++++

Blogactive has had the list on the left column of the page for a year, it is a running list of those he has already outed ....
NOT a list of outings to be

anonymous

Wait. Better idea. Every Republican Congressman and Senator, and every administration official and White House staffer should add their names to "the List," and publish it on government web sites, as a show of solidarity with their Gay Brethren, ... their Political Bedfellows (so to speak.)

Sara (Squiggler)

Yikes! House approves 4 dozen subpoenas!

Sue

Top,

They have nothing to offer. Which is why they are keeping their plan to themselves. Until after they are elected.

topsecretk9

ACE of spades...

--Update: IP of StopSexualPredators Admin ID'd As Coming From Royal Oak, Michigan

An anonymizer? Perhaps. But Tommy just paid to get the full SiteMeter service, and now has the full IP of the StopSexualPredators blogger.

I won't reveal the IP (that would, I guess, be outing) but it does route to Royal Oak, Michigan.

See below post to read how Tommy/MikeZ trapped the SSP admin with a couple of dummy blogs.

What does this mean? Not sure. Trouble is, I'm guessing just about everyone who is anybody at C.R.E.W. lives in DC, not Michigan.

If anyone can figure out a way to carry the ball further, let me know.

It could be someone connected with a congressional Democratic staff, or it could be a former page who lives in Michigan, or a lot of different possibilities. Not really sure how anyone can pin it down.

One can find that this or that person lives in Royal Oak, but how do you prove that's not just a coincidence?


Riehl World Says Royal Oak Is Part of John Conyers' District..--

anonymous

Come on, Patton, you're a Republican. You know all about the Big Tent concept. You'd have no problem marching hand in hand with George Allen and Trent Lott.

Seriously, you know, don't you? that Nancy Pelosi is not supportive of NAMBLA. So why suggest it?

anonymous

Blogactive has had the list on the left column of the page for a year, it is a running list of those he has already outed ....
NOT a list of outings to be

Posted by: SlimGuy | October 05, 2006 at 05:50 PM

Are you suggesting that "topsecretk9," our plucky cub reporter and "fearsome blogger" got it wrong? This could be a scandal of ABC/CBS/Reuters proportions. Alert the blogsphere!

anonymous

Maybe Ace can send his buddy "WickedPinto" out to Royal Oak, Michigan with a baseball bat and he can beat it out of whoever the hell happens to be there.

Rick Ballard

It's the Corn pimping of the Blogactive list that fits the thread. Did Corn just pull his head out today and notice it? Or is he just linking to provide his bosom buddies a few hits to the tip jar. 'Cause they really made need some cash soon. Even cheap lawyers ain't cheap.

Terrye

anonymous:

Considering the fact that I was a Demcorat for most of my adult life but was run out of the party by people like you I think that remark about alienating the base is really kind of stupid.

Tell you what, at the next Democratic National Convention why not invite Noam Chomsky to sit next to that senile old commie Carter and they could do a little stand up routine about how America sucks.

SlimGuy

no not at all , she cut and pasted breaking news

the news source got it wrong

Terrye

Sara:

I have never liked Malkin, the woman is sn hysterical trouble maker.

verner

Verner

Lets and these to your list:

(4) How many of these "older men" were US congressmen?

(5) What are their names?

yep, that's where we are! Courtesy of the progressive left!

topsecretk9

---Are you suggesting that "topsecretk9," our plucky cub reporter and "fearsome blogger" got it wrong? This could be a scandal of ABC/CBS/Reuters proportions. Alert the blogsphere!

Posted by: anonymous | October 05, 2006 at 05:57 PM--

Chances are high, since I read it on David Cornholio's blog-fll of shit.


Cornhole

--Something interesting has been brought to my attention. The Blogactive site **has** posted a version of The List--or a list. It contains the names of members of Congress, Bush aides, celebrities and others in addition to Capitol Hill staffers.--

Contributor from Michigan

I've been following the story here for about a week. Regarding the Royal Oak IP. I found a web site that list all of the contributors for the 2004 Election. I'm not sure if this will help. It give you all of the names of those to Contributed and to What Party or organizaion from the 48073 zip code.
Royal Oak is also a College town and is part of Joe Knollenbergs District.
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/michigan_royal_oak_48073.asp?cycle=04

Terrye

T:

As for the Time poll, well consider the source, it is Time and it shows that the media has done a good job of lying to the American people, per usual and what is more I would imagine the people who said they were not going to vote for GOP because of this, probably were not going to vote for them anyway.

After all if Clinton and Studds can win elections then how much can sexual scandals matter?

norm d'plume

Nancy Pelosi is not supportive of NAMBLA.

Cite?

Are you supportive of NAMBLA, anonymous?

verner

Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't we have "I'm on the List" buttons made up--and each and every one of us wear one.

Kind of like the people in Denmark under the Nazis who all wore stars of David in solidarity with their fellow Jewish citizens.

Jane

Nancy Pelosi is not supportive of NAMBLA.

Of course she is. But that's only one of the reasons why she won't take a lie detector test. Folks in the mob get antsy about that sort of stuff.

anonymous

Terrye, it sounds more like you ran out of the Democrat party on your own. And if you believe President Carter is a Communist, it probably wouldn't be a good idea for you to sit next to Professor Chomsky; you wouldn't understand a word he said.

Sue

I wonder why ABC is not interested in finding all pages that have been sexually harrassed by members of Congress? Why just Foley? Why don't they put up a tip line that asks for any page to come forward? Would it screw up their story if a page came forward that had been sexually harrassed by a democrat?

anonymous

Right Wing errand-girl trusts a blog run by David Corn, a long-time writer for the Nation ...

I'm just sayin' ...

Sue

I saw a quote from a democratic strategist today where he said democrats are sweating this out. They are getting too far out there (don't you like that line, where have we heard it before?) because they will likely be drawn into the scandal. I don't think he meant because they withheld emails.

MayBee

I'm trying to decide if I completely belive the prank story. Sure, it could have been just a prank. On the other hand, if a kid had wondered if he had an attraction to men and then he decided he didn't want to go there, he'd still say it was a prank when his private IMs got exposed by someone else.

I mean, I don't want to be an outer either, but if you search loraditchm, matt's sign-in at the page board, you come up with some....varied interest websites that he's recently unsubscribed to.

Regardless, I still don't buy the 17-year olds as victims angle.
Even the FFF guy making the round. He makes it pretty obvious he was happy to correspond if it would help his political career.

anonymous

Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't we have "I'm on the List" buttons made up--and each and every one of us wear one.

Kind of like the people in Denmark under the Nazis who all wore stars of David in solidarity with their fellow Jewish citizens.

Posted by: verner | October 05, 2006 at 06:12 PM

A really good development of an idea I already posted.

SlimGuy

Pelosi around a lie detector

Heck at 30 feet away she would turn it into and IED

anonymous

Are you still beating your your wife, norm?

anonymous

Sorry about the stutter. (It comes and goes.)

topsecretk9

--plucky cub---

::woof::

MayBee

I don't think he meant because they withheld emails.

Sue, I've seen it said several places many members of Congress were on a "watch closely" list. Improper sexual behavior is not a partisan thing, which is why I'm sorry that's what this has been turned into. It also comes in many forms, as you said.

Enlightened

Hey All - AJ reports that Paula Zahn has more info out re: the Email page recipient - FBI investigated previously and found no merit. Seems like the CREW docs look to be indeed manipulated! Yikes - Go take a looksee -

clarice feldman

********According to the Washington Post Thursday, at a recent sold-out Empire State Pride Agenda dinner, gender-bending 'auctionatrix' Sybil Bruncheon was auctioning off "a lovely matching set of Biarritz leather chairs. There's a big one and a little one, she helpfully points out, 'perfect for those of you in the Man-Boy Love Association!'

The reference was to the North American Man-Boy Love Association, a.k.a. "NAMBLA," that advocates "consensual" sex between aging men and little boys — what, in other words, is commonly considered rape. Hillary has, of course, not expressed any outrage about or discomfort with this bit of humor.

Lazio spokesman McLagan continues: "It's part of a pattern: Mrs. Clinton has a history of sitting idly by while her supporters say outrageous things. If she can't stand up to her liberal Hollywood pals on something like child molestation, how can she stand up for New York in the Senate?"

No one in the press has yet followed up on the story, even though the Hillary-Lazio race is the most closely dissected campaign in the nation. Conservatives chalk it up as yet one more example of the media's double standard when it comes to high-stakes political races.

If this happened at a Lazio event, says New York State Conservative Party chairman Mike Long, "there would be outrage. The Times would be writing editorials, editorials would be in Newsday, columnists from the liberal media would be attacking him."

So far, only silence.
http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment102700b.shtml

anonymous

One thing that I am fairly sure will happen is there will be a flood of people coming out, pointing fingers in every direction, accusing anyone in Congress who stands still long enough of some sort of sexual abuse.

The longer this story goes on, the wilder the sideshow will get.

anon

Question for the regulars here - how often does Mr Maguire fumigate the place? It's getting rather nasty.

anonymous

Gee, Mother Feldman, can't you take a joke?

anonymousf

I love the internet.

It's so easy to take cheap potshots at every one of you under a dozen different names and you're still stupid enough to treat me seriously and respond.

Suckers!

Enlightened

Just ignore the vermin, they tend to die off regularly, alas only to return with a bright and shiny new name...

SlimGuy

I still haven't heard anyone claim this is GW's fault.

Did someone loose their talking points

What's da deal?

Sue

how often does Mr Maguire fumigate the place?

Very seldom. And that is fine with most of us. You don't want an echo chamber unless you post at FDL, Scary's place or other left leaning blog sites. The only one I've visited that doesn't censor, delete or ban is EW's place. I give her kudos for that.

anonymous

Patience, SlimGuy, patience.

topsecretk9

So the FBI says Crew flubbed the Emails and StopPredFakeRoyalOaks has complete FUBARED copies...what is it with the left and fake paperwork?

SlimGuy

Suckers!

Posted by: anonymousf

JB do you expect us to believe that stuff

jukeboxgrad

Last post by Dave on this thread today: October 05, 2006 at 11:22 AM

First post by anonymous on this thread today: October 05, 2006 at 11:24 AM

Will any of the supersleuths solve the case?

anonymous

C.R.E.W. says the F.B.I. is wrong. They sent unredacted, full copies of the E-mails to the agency.

But it sounds like you are saying the "Foley E-mails" are fake. Are you?

norm d'plume

...trusts a blog run by David Corn, a long-time writer for the Nation ...

I'm just sayin' ...

What was that t. s. eliot quotation you posted above? I suspect her intention is similar.

anonymous

jukeboxgrad:

Coincidence? (But let me guess, you don't think Oswald acted alone, right?)

Sue

Will any of the supersleuths solve the case?

What's the matter? Not getting enough attention? ::grin::

Specter

When people lie they tell a lot about themselves, and should not be trusted. Anonymous claimed to be "apoliitical" which means:

1. having no involvement or interest in politics. 2. having no political significance

Since we know that anonymous is a partisan-troll-hack, we know he did not mean the first definition.....

SlimGuy

Will any of the supersleuths solve the case?

Howard Dean wasted all the dems cash reserves

So there was only one keyboard for them to share...and watching them play switch would be so much fun!

Enlightened

Right:

CREW being the lawful citizens they are went to the FBI, but FBI says oopsy, fake but accurate, now CREW says FBI is lying.

OK, now where exactly is the FBI going to benefit in this fiasco, by LYING about CREW?

This has gone from pathetic to laughable.

anonymous

I asked Mother Feldman that question earlier, Sue; but she just got all huffy and stormed out.

norm d'plume

Are you still beating your your wife, norm?

strawman much?

sbw

Clarice, the date for that Hillary article should be listed. It was in 2000. That's when Lazio was running.

SlimGuy

The Koskiddies and The Dudummies are going balistic.........even for them

but of course they are declaring a moral victory

anonymous

1. having no involvement or interest in politics. 2. having no political significance
Since we know that anonymous is a partisan-troll-hack, we know he did not mean the first definition.....

Posted by: Specter | October 05, 2006 at 06:43 PM

Notice the word "or" in definition 1. Since I have no involvement in American politics, then the definition does suit me quite well.

And you are assuming that I am "a partisan-troll hack" (whatever that may be) because you are afflicted by a common mental disorder known as "linear thinking."

T Miller

Were the emails CREW provided the FBI redacted? Or was the FBI spokesperson misinformed?

I guess we are all supposed to side with the FBI and Justice on this one. Even though it is agreed that they got it wrong on Plame/Wilson.

SlimGuy

Google News has noting on their main page about Foley

If you search on Foley noting about the prank issue

anonymous

Enlightened, the F.B.I. did not describe the E-mails sent to them by CREW as "fake but accurate." You really should read the news reports before commenting.

SlimGuy

Must have been a bad story for Reuters,
nothing to photoshop

anonymous

I don't think the F.B.I. agrees that they got it wrong on "Plame/Wilson."

Enlightened

Bwahhahhhhhahhhhh. FBI - can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
FBI says CREW docs good - FBI good.
FBI say CREW docs bad - FBI bad.

Boy Howdy this case has shone a spotlight on LeftThink. There is no there - there.

clarice feldman

As I understand it the emails provided hadn't the page's name nor the name of the staff person who provided them to CREW (A J Strata)

SBW--take it up with NR..I just cited them and quoted them.

And are you suggesting that it was okay to laugh at NAMBLA in 2000?


Newsbusters compares ABC's coverage of the Frank scandal with their coverage of Foley.

http://newsbusters.org/node/8119

anonymous

Enlightened, the F.B.I. said the E-mails sent by CREW to the agency were too heavily redacted for them to see anything to investigate.
CREW says no, they sent unredacted, full, clean copies of the E-mails to the F.B.I. At this time, the question is unresolved.

[Isn't it always OK to laugh at NAMBLA?]

clarice feldman

Congressional hearing report on Studds.

http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/excerpts-from-the-congressional-report-on-gerry-studds

T Miller

The FBI should clear this up. (1) Either the emails were heavily redacted or they were not and (2) either the FBI asked follow-up questions that were not answered, or there were no unanswered questions.

The FBI made these 2 points, so the ball is in their court. This shouldn't be difficult to clarify.

anonymous

You know, if the plan is to rifle the archives to find scandals to distract from the Foley Follies, why not go to the fountainhead?
Let's dig up Jack Kennedy. Lots to work with there.

Enlightened

Backpedal. Backpedal. Backpedal.

tap....tap....tap....where's Beetlejuice when you need him.

anonymous

No, that won't work. Isn't Kennedy supposed to be some kind of proto-Neo-Con now?

lurker

mac ranger says there is a developing story that he discovered and doing more investigating. He's forwarding his findings to FBI but cannot comment more on it.

Interesting!

larwyn

Allah just linked to this - read it all
Human Rights Campaign Involved in Gay GOP Witchhunt
Posted by GayPatriot at 8:10 pm - October 5, 2006.

David Corn, who said he would never publish the names on “The List”, seems to be outing by dribbles now. He has already named a name, proving he is a hypocrite.

But in a stab to the heart of every gay and lesbian who gives a dime to the shameless money-grubbers, Corn drops this bombshell from a post earlier today:

I’ve received several requests for The List (see below), but I haven’t passed it on. And a few emails have come in with the same sort of query: is So-and-So who works for Senator So-and-So on the list? I haven’t answered such questions. But a reporter told me that The List is in other hands. He was told by an official at the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights lobby, that it had a copy. The HRC official refused to talk about it, though.

According to our critics here, the liberal party line is that it is Republicans outing gay Republican staffers on Capitol Hill. But as of now there have only been three entities claiming to actually have “The List.”:

Liberal Gay Outing Activists Who Have Been Compiling The List For Years Liberal columnist David Corn Liberal gay rights organization Human Rights Campaign .
I don’t see a Republican among them. The only Republicans talking about the list are terrified GOP staffers, again according to Corn….

Read it all.

Sara (Squiggler)

Doesn't anyone want to speculate about who got those 4 dozen (48) subpoennas that the House approved today? I'd like to know who is on their list.

Rick Ballard

"The Koskiddies and The Dudummies are going balistic.........even for them"

Maybe they're arguing about whether Zogby showing Lieberman up 20 over Unready Neddy is an outlier. I think it is - Rasmussen only has him up 10.

Such clever people.

Semanticleo

Could all this be Rove's Ocotber surprise?

sbw

Clarice: And are you suggesting that it was okay to laugh at NAMBLA in 2000?

No I just didn't want Dave to call you a liar. ;-)

sbw

BTW, NR comment date for that cite was: 10/27/00 3:45 p.m.

Terrye

anonymous:

I think the point is to remind self righteous Democrats that they are in no position to judge others, but obviously that is lost on them.

There is something so unattractive about a vulture on road kill.

clarice feldman

Picky, picky, Rick.

The nutroots are about to prove how valable they are to the party. Just as HRC destroys itself forever and shows us how all these "rights" groups are Dem shills with defined messages and no principles.

JM Hanes

anonymous:
"Now, why don't you give some thought to how I mean that."

jukeboxgrad:
"Will any of the supersleuths solve the case?"

Does Jeff have sock puppets? Does anybody really care?

SlimGuy

Hot air has a video of Rosie Odonnels sex scene on Nip and Tuck

Any bolemics in the house who haven't do a lunch takeout today and need inspiration!

Terrye

How can anyone watch Rosie? The woman is obscene.

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