John "I Support the Troops of Ghengis Khan" Kerry reassures Bush voters that they made the right choice in 2004 by delivering this updated support for the troops at a campaign rally for Gubernatorial candidate Angelides in California:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”
The Captain wonders whether other Dems will denounce this. As if! Michelle Malkin is doing great outrage.
Here is a local paper covering the same event, giving us a bit of crow reax:
Hoping to breathe life into a flagging gubernatorial run, Democrats on Monday turned out a cast of party all-stars for Phil Angelides at a Pasadena City College appearance.
Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, state Assembly Speaker Fabian Nu ez and California Sen. Barbara Boxer all gave the California treasurer ringing endorsements, while telling about 370 PCC students that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger does not have their best interests in mind.
...But while the students showed proper enthusiasm for Angelides by waving his signs and wooing and booing at the right places, the energy in the room clearly belonged to Kerry. He took the stage to roaring applause and left it only to be mobbed by students and reporters.
Kerry charmed the crowd with tales of surfing at Mission Beach and got laughs for a series of one liners, including telling the crowd he had just returned from Texas, "Where the president used to live - now he lives in a state of denial."
Kerry then told the students that if they were able to navigate the education system, they could get comfortable jobs - "If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq," he said to a mixture of laughter and gasps.
I want to say that having listened carefully to the audio, it is possible that Kerry was misunderstood - he did not say "if you study hard... you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq". What he said was, unless you study hard "you get stuck with Democrats".
Well, maybe.
MORE: This may simply be a well-done spoof site, but here is Kerry's "response". Shorter Kerry - Your mother wears Army boots but you never did. And Rush Limbaugh is fat.
As Teresa might say, quel clown. Jiminy, Kerry had a choice: (a) apologize, get beaten for a news cycle, and move on, or (b) try to tough it out and turn this into a multi-day beat down. Hey, (b) works for me.
Hot Air has more, including a CNN clip - apparently CNN is pushing this hard.
John McCain thinks Kerry owes the troops an apology:
Senator Kerry owes an apology to the many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country’s call because they are patriots and not because of any deficiencies in their education. Americans from all backgrounds, well off and less fortunate, with high school diplomas and graduate degrees, take seriously their duty to our country, and risk their lives today to defend the rest of us in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.
They all deserve our respect and deepest gratitude for their service. The suggestion that only the least educated Americans would agree to serve in the military and fight in Iraq, is an insult to every soldier serving in combat, and should deeply offend any American with an ounce of appreciation for what they suffer and risk so that the rest of us can sleep more comfortably at night. Without them, we wouldn’t live in a country where people securely possess all their God-given rights, including the right to express insensitive, ill-considered and uninformed remarks.
KERRY'S SIDE: From the Huffers we see that Kerry simply can't tell a joke - he meant to deliver a Bush-basher with "You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq" as the punchline.
Fine - Kerry should apologize for not being able to speak English as well as the typical recruit. But enough already with Kerry delivering "Bush is dumb" jokes.
FROM HOTLINE: Hotline asks a couple of presumably non-rhethorical questions:
Do Republicans really believe that Kerry wasn't talking about Pres. Bush? (We believe that Kerry was referring to Bush because he's used a similar formulation in our presence before and quite clearly meant to call Bush a dummy.)
Aren't Republicans being a bit intellectually dishonest by taking Kerry out of context?
As to the "context" question, the quote was clear enough and Kerry's non-apology was absurd enough. Kerry's backdoor explanation - the quip was a Bush-basher that went awry - is probably true, but how would we have known that (Kerry has not used a similar formulation in our presence)?
As to believing that Kerry meant this as a troop-basher - well, it is hard to believe that he would have reflected carefully and said this. However, Kinsley's definition of a gaffe applies - this appears to be a perfect case of a politician telling the truth. Let me break it to Hotline gently - I think there are plenty of Republicans who don't believe the Democrats (and particularly the Democrats of Kerry's anti-war generation) have a visceral respect for the military.
Possible data points would include:
(a) Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony - many Swift Vets saw his characterization of the troops in Vietnam as murderous rapists akin to the army of Ghengis Khan as something like the opposite of support.
(b) Charles Rangel's call for a draft. I understand he had many motivations, but his basic message is that the poor get stuck with serving because "the rich" have better choices. That is quite consistent with Kerry's message of 'study hard, don't get stuck in Iraq'.
(c) Has Hotline checked the availaibilty of ROTC on Ivy campuses?
(d) Kerry is a liberal Northeasterner. White Northeasterners are under-represented in military recruiting (Go West, and South, young man!). I daresay that wealthy white liberal Northeasterners are very under-represented in military recruiting. In Kerry's milieu, people don't enlist and their sons and daughter don't enlist. Kerry himself only enlisted after his deferments ran out. [Lots on recruiting here; more in the CS Monitor.]
Look, it may not be fair to characterize Democrats as believing that military service is a last choice rather than a first choice, but I think many Republicans believe that of Dems, and not entirely without reason. Consequently, I did not read Kerry's remark and immediately think that he could not have meant it. As an alternative example, if Kerry had been quoted as mocking black people I would have immediately assumed his mouth had disconnected from his brain, as has happened before.
I am sick of the Khanist remarks from this gangling pipsqueak,always dissing my grandfather Ghengis.We khans did outreach to the Mid East before,JFQue soiling his rompers.
Posted by: Helugu Khan | October 31, 2006 at 09:44 PM
The beauty part is that press release. In it, I learned that Bush’s policy in Afghanistan does not have anything to do with involving our allies (read: NATO members) in the fight there; rather, it is “cut and run in Afghanistan.” Am I the only one who seems to remember that Kerry’s Big Idea on Iraq was to involve our allies, get them to take a bigger share of the burden in Iraq, look to NATO, reach out, etc? Doing precisely that in Afghanistan is verboten. Maybe the mistake was that Bush didn't enlist those allies at an international conference. "When I'm elected, we're going to have that conference, by God..."
This is fundamental about Kerry and Co. It is a shameful little playbook. Principally, it involves reverse engineering. We begin with "X." Did Bush do "X"? If so, "X" is a mistake, and probably a mistake premised on a lie. Label it as such. There needn't be a reason why. Just... label it as such.
Enlist our allies in the fight? Good idea in Iraq; bad idea in Afghanistan. Reasoning? None. Has someone called us on it? "Chickenhawk! Dummy! LIAR! I won't be besmirched! I won't be labelled! I won't be attacked! My dissent will not be stifled! My jokes are funny because my intentions are good!"
John Kerry. My hero.
Posted by: Crew v1.0 | October 31, 2006 at 09:46 PM
MIke Allen of Time NO big fan of Republicans in general on Karl Rove:
"In only a few days, it'll be clear whether he has outsmarted the pundits and Democrats, one last time."
From the same article Rove admits that they are tracking absentee ballots and registrations and both are at or ahead of where they were 2 years ago. If that is true, since turnout in off year Non Presidential Races is usually way off, watch for some media types and their pundits to have some long faces by the middle of the evening of election night.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 09:48 PM
Perhaps we ought to introduce him to Helugu who did have a military record worth bragging about.
Posted by: clarice | October 31, 2006 at 09:49 PM
No one is misreading anything. Kerry is being his usual arrogant elitist self.
Posted by: Terrye | October 31, 2006 at 09:51 PM
First he says in his press release that it's a scam dreamed up by the VRWC, then this afternoon he says it was a bungled joke. Typical. It's never his fault. Damned secret service agent tripped him up or something.
Posted by: clarice | October 31, 2006 at 09:54 PM
If democrats don't pick up at least the house on the 7th, will they blame Kerry or Diebold? Choices, choices...
Posted by: Sue | October 31, 2006 at 09:57 PM
Funny thing to brag about, apparently it's not that hard to do.
Posted by: The Unbeliever | October 31, 2006 at 10:02 PM
Campaign Carl is saying that John Kerry's 'gaffe' is being noted by the campaigns of democrats. And they aren't happy.
Posted by: Sue | October 31, 2006 at 10:08 PM
I just watched H&C and Colmes is spinning like crazy that it was a joke, that Kerry was talking about Bush not the troops.
Barone called him disengenuous and Colmes got all outraged. LOL
The POINT is Kerry refuses to apologize. Colmes would be the FIRST to say perceeption is everything.
The little Dem strategist they had on was siimply pathetic. LOL
Let's talk about things the voters CARE about. Over and over and over and interrupting, almost screaming, 'talk about things the voters CARE about!'
I was laughing so hard!
Posted by: Syl | October 31, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Syl,
I saw that. Barone told Colmes he was full of baloney. ::grin:: I think I will nominate that as an honorable mention in best comments for the day.
Posted by: Sue | October 31, 2006 at 10:11 PM
Perhaps we ought to introduce him to Helugu who did have a military record worth bragging about.
Actually I think Messrs Rumsfeld and Bush might better profit by being introduced to old Hulagu. If we did to Baghdad and Persia what he did we wouldn't be worrying about Sadr, Ahmadithingamabob or much of anything else for that matter and our troops would already be home or better yet marching into Syria.
Posted by: Barney Frank | October 31, 2006 at 10:15 PM
Well here is a corker from none other than Jack ( ass) Cafferty of CNN. Can you hear the fear in his voice:
"Why is John Kerry speaking anywhere about anything? What does he symbolize when it comes to the Democratic Party? Failure. He lost the election in 2004. . .
[Howard Dean should say to Kerry:] 'Go get on your boat. Go fish. Go play soccer. Go out and commune with nature. Sit in the woods until the election is over. Please don't talk. Please don't have your picture taken. Just go away.'
He symbolizes failure. You know, watching the Democrats try to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is a spectator sport in this country, and here they go, flirting with it again. . . Why is he talking to anybody? . . . Wait till the election is over. It's not helping."
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 10:22 PM
Tomorrow he's in Penn. campaigning with Casey. If he is bumped, it's a story; if he goes and Casey doesn't distance himself from Kerry's remarks(and money), it's a story; if he does distance himself, it's a story.
Of course, it's not a BIG story like Macaca to the press.........but I think we can count on the new media to keep it going for the next week or so.
Posted by: clarice | October 31, 2006 at 10:25 PM
Tammy Bruce:
Posted by: Sara (Squiggler) | October 31, 2006 at 10:26 PM
FNC reports Kerry has cancelled all appearances for tomorrow!
Posted by: clarice | October 31, 2006 at 10:29 PM
Tomorrow he is in Minnesota campaigning for a Democrat for congress Waltz. How well ya think thats going to go in rural Minnesota? Do ya think the Democrat may say " John havent you got some place else you need to be?"
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 10:30 PM
Of course, it's not a BIG story like Macaca to the press.........
Just no comparison. macaca was front pge, lead story, 5 or 6 days running. That's BIG.
Posted by: SunnyDay | October 31, 2006 at 10:35 PM
DES MOINES, Iowa A Democratic Congressional candidate from Iowa is canceling a campaign event later this week with Senator John Kerry.
Brucy Braley says Kerry's recent comments about the Iraq war were inappropriate.
Braley is running against Republican Mike Whalen in Iowa's First District congressional race. It's a contest considered to be one of the most competitive House races in the country.
Braley's decision to distance himself from Kerry came as a furor grew from comments Kerry made about the Iraq War during a campaign stop in California on Monday.
Posted by: clarice | October 31, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Did Kerry say this time "I am reporting for duty" or " I just stepped in the duty"???
I'm confused.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Someone just posted elsewhere that it looks like ALL of Kerry's future campaign stops have been cancelled. None are listed at his site--just past appearances.
http://www.johnkerry.com/election06/ontheroad/
The Dems are going to try to starve this story of oxygen. Actually, if Kerry had not issued his statement and given the presser, most of old media wouldn't have mentioned it.
Posted by: Paul | October 31, 2006 at 10:38 PM
The 5th firefighter in California died. :(
Posted by: Sue | October 31, 2006 at 10:42 PM
Oh no it aint gonna die that easily. The Am Vets and the VFW will make sure of that. And if he does not show, the Republicans should send the guy in the big yellow chicken costume to every event that he cancels from and then have President Bush makes some remarks about the chicken showing up instead of another not to bright but very chicken. That will get it the juice it needs to keep flowing.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 10:42 PM
the Captain piles on:
I visited a kindergarten classroom earlier in the day and told the children that if they listened to their teachers and parents and cleaned up well after fingerpainting, they would succeed in life -- otherwise they'd end up as a Senator from Massachussetts. And Lord knows how embarrassing that can get.
On second thought, which Senator from Massachusetts?
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | October 31, 2006 at 10:45 PM
It's that darned self-awareness system again. He never could face the success of the Swifties without blaming it on his reluctance to respond forcefully and immediately, so now he's adamant that that ain't gonna happen again. Only that ain't what happened in the first place. :-)
Posted by: Extraneus | October 31, 2006 at 10:46 PM
Actually, Kerry's stupid remark was a step up from calling our soldiers war criminals, as he did in the 70's. So he's gradually modifying his views. By 2030, he might even have something nice to say about them.
Posted by: RebeccaH | October 31, 2006 at 10:55 PM
At least he didn't say ..
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and don't get caught cheating at Harvard, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck as senior Senator from Massachussetts.”
Posted by: Neo | October 31, 2006 at 11:05 PM
Barone told Colmes he was full of baloney.
Still laughing. The most excited I have ever seen Barone and he had to shout over Colmes to do it.....and he said it more than once.
They also had McCain and I thought that was the most amazing thing (not my favorite). I watched McCain seem to almost campaign for Kerry on MSNBC until convention time. I hated how he treated the Swifties. Ding...ding...I think he finally got it! Yep, by George....I believe a lightbulb went off and he even talked about Kerry's 1971.
Posted by: owl | October 31, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Charles Rangel's call for a draft, HR.163, came to the floor of the House and that was actually voted on, indicating that the draft was for "active duty and reverse" components of the military.
I assume that a reverse component would be in charge of retreats and surrenders (has a French flair to it), and has that John Kerry "nuance" to it.
Posted by: Neo | October 31, 2006 at 11:23 PM
The absurdity is that it most likely was a mistake. We all make them, and someone who talks publically as much as Kerry does, invariably is going to make some along the way.
But Kerry being Kerry, couldn't own up to it, and admit that he made a mistake, and, so, dug himself that much deeper.
I should add that Kerry obviously thinks that he is a lot smarter than most anyone else does any more, and probably also thought that he could talk his way out of this.
BTW, thanks for all the great comments and one liners above. It was one of the more enjoyable threads I have read for quite a while.
Posted by: Bruce Hayden | October 31, 2006 at 11:34 PM
Greetings everyone - been an avid reader of your posts here for awhile, but never a poster.
Thanks to all of you (and that schmuck JFK) for all the laughs today.
Also, I am a big fan of Clarice - read all of her articles at AT.
Posted by: centralcal | November 01, 2006 at 12:02 AM
"The absurdity is that it most likely was a mistake. We all make them, and someone who talks publically as much as Kerry does, invariably is going to make some along the way."
The only "mistake" was that Kerry actually told the truth about how he views those who serve in the military and he got caught.
Posted by: arrowhead | November 01, 2006 at 12:06 AM
Thanks, centralcal..We'd beam you aboard formally but we all laughed so hard today, we're still gasping for air.
Posted by: clarice | November 01, 2006 at 12:26 AM
If it were a joke, you are suggesting, as is Kerry, that Kerry was playing the punchline “You get (us) stuck in Iraq” for laughs. Think about that for a second. Quite the kneeslapper no? Read the full quote:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”
Is it really even imaginable that Kerry was saying to these kids that … If you don’t make the most of education, you will become president and get the nation involved in a protracted war?
We are left to conclude that Kerry thinks very little of the education of John F. Kennedy, who “got us stuck” in Vietnam (hahaha). Wonder what the senior senator of Massachusetts thinks of Kerry’s laugh line?
Posted by: maybeit'sfunnierinfrench | November 01, 2006 at 12:30 AM
There's really an irony here I think. The Dem people showing up on cable defending Kerry all say that, well, Kerry isn't running for anything. This is about individual house races.
But the dems have been trying to make this election all about Bush--who, ahem, isn't running for anything either!
So now we can fight 2004 all over again--and that's a heckuva lot more fun!
Posted by: Syl | November 01, 2006 at 01:43 AM
Well, I for one, haven't has so much fun in a long time.
Posted by: Sara (Squiggler) | November 01, 2006 at 01:50 AM
*** HAD *** so much fun. Yikes! I'm tired or having a sugar crash or something.
I answered the door tonight 127 times and had 4 times as many trick or treaters. Whew! The costumes this year were fantastic, although I'm not sure I approve of 13 and 14 year olds dressing up as Playboy Bunnies. Lots of pretty princesses, Sponge Bob, Wonder Woman, Tinker Bell, Spider Man, ghouls, witches, great looking vampires and the best of all, a beautiful geisha girl in full makeup and a silk kimono that looked like the real thing.
Posted by: Sara (Squiggler) | November 01, 2006 at 01:54 AM
Neo:
"I assume that a reverse component would be in charge of retreats and surrenders "
ROTFLMAO -- Again!
Posted by: JM Hanes | November 01, 2006 at 01:55 AM
The boy-man pres and the repugs have been trying to draw attention away from Iraq for weeks and they were almost successful until they decided to jump on Kerry for his botched joke. Thank you JFK.
Posted by: jack | November 01, 2006 at 02:07 AM
"Tomorrow he's in Penn. campaigning with Casey. If he is bumped, it's a story; if he goes and Casey doesn't distance himself from Kerry's remarks(and money), it's a story; if he does distance himself, it's a story."
Wrong. Kerry will now be given a huge audience and platform to attack the failed foreign policy of the boy-man and you can bet he will make the most of it. Suckers!
Posted by: jack | November 01, 2006 at 02:26 AM
jack
Yep, that's the DUmmies theory. LOL
Oh, take a look at Kerry's upcoming schedule. Wiped clean. He gets no platform anywhere.
But there will be calls for apologies for the next few days.
Heh.
Posted by: Syl | November 01, 2006 at 02:47 AM
"But there will be calls for apologies for the next few days.'
And everytime there is such a call the media will be looking for comments from Kerry. Maybe you should write Being a Dummy for Dummies book.
Posted by: jack | November 01, 2006 at 02:56 AM
Jack. I am reasonably certain the Dem leadership has whisked him away to an undisclosed location, bound and gagged him and will not release him until after the election.
But I hope you are right, and that jackass is on the front pages for the next week.
Posted by: clarice | November 01, 2006 at 03:08 AM
He couldn't find his solid waste evacuation unit if his head was buried in it. And it is.
The Words Speak for Themselves
Posted by: M. Simon | November 01, 2006 at 03:26 AM
Kerry says we are all crazy if we think he would ever put down the troops fighting in Iraq:
Hmmmm
John Kerry, Face the Nation:
"""And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs," Kerry
SO NOW THE TROOPS GO AROUND TERRORIZING PEOPLE AS WELL.
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 05:13 AM
What's the big deal, the simple fact that American military personnel were forced to join the military because they were poor or stupid is well known in the Democrat cloakroom and the Democrat party as a whole.
This is no secret, Kerry was just being himself, being a geniune person for once and he gets attacked for it.
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 05:19 AM
Good Morning!
Well I normally don't advocate "pushing" a poll, but I think we should all go over and give our vote at AOLnews.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/president-seizes-on-kerry-comments/20061031130009990004?ncid=NWS00010000000001>
President Seizes on Kerry Comments
Bush Uses Senator's 'Botched Joke' to Push for GOP Votes
as of 5:29am this morning:
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 05:29 AM
A lot of people must be reading these comments, Bob!
Same after 7,500 more votes:
A deliberate insult 55%
A botched joke 35%
I'm not sure 10%
Total Votes: 30,170
Posted by: Extraneus | November 01, 2006 at 05:59 AM
Kerry Smart. It's a smart like no other.
Posted by: Extraneus | November 01, 2006 at 06:03 AM
You notice how quickly the Lamestream media steps up and tries to defend Kerry.
If Kerry were a Republican, every Republican would be asked in every public appearance to repudiate him and it would continue for weeks. Thats how the media sets the agenda.
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 06:15 AM
Bob,
Did my part!
However, I quibble with the phrasing of the answer 'A Deliberate Insult'. I don't think he was deliberately insulting anybody. He was, as Patton alluded to above, just stating what passes for a worldview of the left.
Everyone knows the smart kids go to college, get a degree in Social Sciences and then WORK for the government. They don't FIGHT for it. That's just for the dumb kids with nowhere else to go.
It is the top story of the morning on Headline News. Wonder if it'll have legs all day?
Posted by: bubarooni | November 01, 2006 at 06:15 AM
[Originally posted by Dale in Atlanta at Seixon.com, 31 October 2006]
Traitor, seditionist, liar, fraud, fake, elitist, Leftist, Anti-American, that pretty much sums up John Ker....Hmmmmmm....wait a second..."anony.....Hmmmmmmmmmm, wait a Minute....maybe, just maybe.....Hmmmmmmmmmm, "anonymous" ISN'T "Jason Leopold" after all, he's John Kerry!
That EXPLAINS all his delusions........
THAT'S IT!
Sure do have the same personality, and same background, "French Philosophers"; this is MORE than a coincidence.....
Ah SHUCKS; I just remembered, John Kerry has actually BEEN somewhere, and DONE something; we KNOW FOR SURE that DOESN'T apply to "anonymous", he's been too busy peering out thru his search engine and keyhole, to actually serve his country, or anything so plebian as that!
Sorry, my original description stands, it's for "anonymous" though, NOT John Kerry, he's just a plain asshole...
Oh my, I'm in trouble, I left the "e" out of PlebEian, OH MY GOD, I'm as DUMB as John Kerry now, because, because my grades in college were actually just a tad HIGHER than his 71% aveage!
Shucks....
DOUBBLE DAMNN, NOWW I"MM really biig trrouble, I'm spellling evverything WRONNG!
Ah well, that's what happens when you're drunk on the power of the MCA and Patriot Act, and the new John Warner bill; I'm so happy I can send all those ALIENS, like "anonymous" and "Shaman" to Gitmo, I'm just DRUNK on POWER!
Man, it's nice.......
"anonymous":
Pssssssssst: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
MORON!
Add your Leftist traitor buddy "Trey" to your little cabal of MORONS!
Pitiful, paranoid, little sophist.
"anonymous": STILL wanna see my Legion of Merit, you little punk?
(through the tears and sniffles..) "..memememem you don't have a Legion of Merit...memememem, C'mon, pronouce 'Jacque Derrida' over the Blog for me now.....mememememe....mannequin is Flemish 'dopey', I just corrected your FRENCH when you spelled it MANNEKEN....memememememe.."
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I'm SUPERIOR to you ALL, I really AM, because, because, ...ngggg.ngngngn....waaahhh, I'm superior to you ALL, because I ...waaaah, sniffle, boohoo, I'm superior because I study FRENCH PHILSOPHISTRY, I REALLY AM!, I'm superior, waaaggggahh momma, because I SAY so, and you all have to listen to ME, or I'll take my ball and go home, and I'm gonna tell my mommy, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhh; and I'll take my Google and go home too, sniffle, sob, waaagghhh, Che and Castro and Saddam, and Stalin, and Lenin, and Marx and Hitler and Mussolini, and Ezra Pound, and Celine and Derrida are ALL my HEROES because they HATE JEWS, and I worship them all, and I'm superior because I say so, and ngggnennngmommahelpmethebigbadBushistakingmycivillibertiesawayfrommebecauseI'mtoocowardlytowearauniformandprotectmyownrightsandeveryonepicksonmebecauseIhaveaninferioritycomplex...
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Ill Kim | November 01, 2006 at 06:43 AM
bubarooni... I think the term "A Deliberate Insult" was simply used as an exaggeration to keep folks from voting that way. AOL has a liberal bias, and I think this is a good example of trying to keep the negative votes to a minimum. This is the same crap they pull with poll questions.
Now having said that, I think anybody who's heard Kerry's anti Military comments over the years, will see this gaff as just fitting into the a pattern... was it deliberate? Well not in the true sense of the word, but I do believe it is typical of his resentment of the military in general. I would hope that deep down he must know what a sniveling coward he is, and like most of his ilk, he'll do everything he can to criticize what he knows he'll never be... Brave and Honest!
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 06:47 AM
Kerry went to Yale not Harvard. And one can only hope he will now come back to MA and devote all his energy to the Governor's race.
Posted by: Jane | November 01, 2006 at 07:27 AM
"Rove saved his October surprise
I wonder how Rove gets Kerry to say this stuff. He's a bloody GENIUS!"
Same way you get a sock puppet to say stuff,it's a dirty job but somebody has to do it.
Posted by: PeterUK | November 01, 2006 at 07:37 AM
Kerry is on the Imus show, apparently making a bigger fool of himself. A friend just emailed me this:
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 07:42 AM
H&R -- I had to highlight your comment:
He's very thin-skinned. When he shot himself in the ass with a rice grain he considered himself badly wounded.
I can't say I blame him for taking that wound very seriously. Think how close it came to inflicting brain damage.
Posted by: hit and run | October 31, 2006 at 01:01 PM
as the best one so far today on any blog I've linked to.
Posted by: Squiggler | October 31, 2006 at 01:19 PM
Thank you Sara - and clarice...
Having to head home for the halloween festivities - I did not get to include the obvious closure to that statement.
Ahem...
I can't say I blame him for taking that wound very seriously. Think how close it came to inflicting brain damage.
Ohhhh, wait. That explains it. He was brain damaged in that incident.
OK folks - let's cut ol' Kerry some slack. We're dealing with a special needs case here.
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 08:04 AM
My feeling is that the WH wanted to shift attention away from their abandoning the search for that kidnapped US soldier in Sadr City (per the decision of Maliki), as well as clearly wanting to pound Kerry and obscure his critique of W.
Posted by: jerry | November 01, 2006 at 08:13 AM
Yeah Jerry, it's amazing how he (Rove)got Kerry to stick his foot in his mouth for 3 days running. When will you moonbats ever wake up? And why is it always someone else's fault?
So "Kerrying On"... the man is toast... I'll hate to see him go!
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 08:33 AM
Sara, grrrrrreat round up at Squiggler!!!!!!
But......now what am I going to do all day? I cleared my schedule to have fun reading all the Kerry stuff out there - but your blog cut that time down to about 15 minutes.
Sigh. I guess I'll just have to sit here and try and come up with more jokes.
Or actually work. Double sigh.
:)
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 08:38 AM
...more Kerrying On
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/10204420/detail.html>Marine's Family Urges Kerry To Learn More About Military
Senator's Comments About Iraq, Troops Draw Criticism
"We did appreciate the call. I am appreciative of anyone who reaches out to me and to then turn around and say something that is so totally incorrect," Booth said.
As to whether Kerry should apologize, Booth said that Kerry needs to do more to make amends.
"In addition to apologizing, he needs to learn a little bit about what our men and women in the military are actually made up of," Booth said. "We don't want to send that kind of signal, that you only go into the military if you are not good at anything."
Who would have though Kerry could be a bigger loser than Gore?
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 08:39 AM
Tom & JOM Readership:
This is the REAL Dale in Atlanta again!
Again, apologies warranted, the TROLL from Seixon's blog is back, as you can see by the "Lill Kim" Troll posting above!
This is not Kim, nor I posting, this is "anonymous" from Seixon's Blog, and he has been over here under "Rick Ballard", "anonymous", "U I", and probably others.
This stuff has no place here, and we really have not idea, the Real "kim" and I, nor Seixon, what he thinks he is accomplishing by coming over here, and posting this crap!
He's beyond pathetic, he's lost every single "discussion" he's started over at Seixon's, and he gets so frustrated, like the juvenile that he is, he has to lash out somehow...
Too bad Tom can't ban IP's...he's beyond contempt....
Sigh.........
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta | November 01, 2006 at 08:44 AM
Bob - There HAS to be an apology coming out of this. Seriously.
Joshua Booth's mom is obviously crazy. She is republican hack out to swift boat him.
It is she who owes him an apology.
John Kerry says so.
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 08:50 AM
Whats great for Kerry and us Democrats is the troops are all too stupid to understand he was putting them down.
Posted by: Howie dean | November 01, 2006 at 08:51 AM
Having served in the military, I guess I am just too stupid or just lazy to understand how Kerry's comment was somehow directed at Bush.
Bush completed his education.
Bush had better educational scores then Kerry.
Bush served in the military.
The students Kerry was addressing mostly hav not served, and had not completed their education.
So I don't see how he could be talking about Bush unless he said:
I want to talked about education, you see if you get good SAT scores, complete your degree and graduate with a Harvard MBA you'll someday get our military bogged down in a country like Iraq.
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 08:55 AM
boy H&R you had me going there for a minute. After reading "Real" Dale's post, I thought the body snatchers had gotten you too!
I waiting for Kerry to up the anti, whereby unless you have 3 medals in less than 10 weeks of combat you can't question his patriotism or courage, or intellect, or shoe size, or hair do, or... or... or...
Posted by: Bob | November 01, 2006 at 08:56 AM
Actually meeting between Kerry and military family:
Mom: Hi Senator, this is my son Scott, he volunteer for the 1st Armoured Division.
Kerry: I am so sorry for you, what happened, couldn't get out of high school ehh, what was in dope?
Mom: Oh no sir, he graduated high school, and went to Virginia Tech.
Kerry: I know I hear this alot, what happened he get drunk and raped and terrorized some girl. Judge forced him into
comabt, I wish there was something I could do.
Mom; Oh, you miss understand, he graduated with honors and voluntered to join the Army.
Kerry: Madam. you don't need to tell me
about service. Have you seen my medals...I was in Vitenam.
So tell me son, what's the deal here, getting some cushy assignment? Your Dad
in business with the SEC DEF? Gonna sit behind a desk and punch your card toward a future political office?
Soldier: No sir, I volunteered for Iraq, I leave next week with my men. We come from a family that believes in serving their country.
Kerry: I am sorry ma'am, what heppened, he get too close to the wood splitter? Took a piece of oak to the head or something?
Mom: He's just a good man, a good soldier and good American Senator.
Kerry: Well, he's just lucky he's not hispanic, those guys have it bad I'll tell you...I need to meet me oneof those, practice up on my language skills for the next El presidente' run.
Mom: Have a good day Senator......
........
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IDIOT
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 09:07 AM
Bob:
boy H&R you had me going there for a minute.
Yeah, I wanted to link to each part of the statement (crazy, republican hack) to where Kerry actually made those statements, but I got lazy.
Patton, Bravo. Double Bravo.
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 09:13 AM
Well between Kerry's comment and Al Gores comment about the 'extra Y chomosome crowd', that pretty much explains the Navy.
Signed,
Former Ai Force
Posted by: Patton | November 01, 2006 at 09:29 AM
"Enough is enough. We're not going to stand for this," Kerry said. "We are going to stay in their face with the truth.
You have a mouse in your pocket, Senator? The 'we' you referred to? They canceled their appearances with you.
::grin::
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 09:40 AM
I wonder if our Pro-Jihadi, Idol Worshipping Leftists, like "anonymous" and "Trey" and "Shaman" could stomach the TRUTH in his little document, by Dr. Walid Phares:
http://counterterrorismblog.org/site-resources/images/JISS%20article%20Mutant%20Jihad%5B1%5D.pdf
No, I guess not, it doesn't blame the United States for everything EVIL in the world, and it tells the TRUTH about the Jihadis; ignore them, I think the rest of you Sane people, will find it very enlightening!
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta | November 01, 2006 at 09:52 AM
Stay on your toes. Don't misunderestimate Kerry.
That is, don't misunderestimate his ability to misunderestimate his ability to undermine the election from dems......
From Mario Loyola over on the Corner:
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 10:02 AM
'13 and 14 year olds dressing up as Playboy Bunnies'
Uh...how exactly is that possible?
Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan | November 01, 2006 at 10:16 AM
I did not know there was a 'quote of the day' or I would have sent H&R's post in.
It is better than the ones they http://www.nerepublican.com/index.php/2006/11/01/quote-of-the-day-135/>chose.
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 10:24 AM
Big showdowns about this on F&F - shouting each other down. How much do they pay them to put on these shows??
Posted by: SunnyDay | November 01, 2006 at 10:29 AM
What is F&F?
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Harold Ford publicly states that Kerry needs to apologize. How thick a head must you have to drag your party over a cliff simply cuz you are too arrogant and prideful to apologize? Of course I hope he keeps it up. Maybe a session with Olberman would be the ticket.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 10:34 AM
F&F = Fox and Friends
Posted by: SunnyDay | November 01, 2006 at 10:37 AM
Sunny,
Thanks.
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 10:41 AM
VDH with comments that surely would sting for a long time, if Kerry only had the intellect to understand how little this makes him look:
Kerry surely must be one of the saddest Democratic liabilities around. Some afterthoughts about his latest gaffe, which is one of those rare glimpses into an entire troubled ideology. . . . Today, Democrats must be wondering why they have embraced an overrated empty suit, and ostracized a real talent like Joe Lieberman."
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Let's imagine Kerry's next media statement, shall we...
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 10:55 AM
Aha! the military is really making Kerry's point for him! Just like they say on the Guiness commercials, "Brilliant." H & R you are on a roll.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 10:58 AM
I do admire all the Republican elitists who never served, in fact who bent over backwards NOT to serve, now showing that extreme courage to distort the words of a man who has spent his career working for veterans.
God forbid we discuss the bloody mess they blundered into in Iraq, or the 103 American sons who were killed there just this month - for absolutely nothing but political cover for cowards who can't take responsibility.
God forbid we deal with reality. Just keep guffawing and enjoying your tax cuts while another batch of young Americans are buried, ignored by their president and an even larger batch goes home to a life of disability, while Republicans find new and creative ways to cut their benefits.
Posted by: Lindy | November 01, 2006 at 11:01 AM
I do admire all the Republican elitists who never served, in fact who bent over backwards NOT to serve, now showing that extreme courage to distort the words of a man who has spent his career working for veterans.
God forbid we discuss the bloody mess they blundered into in Iraq, or the 103 American sons who were killed there just this month - for absolutely nothing but political cover for cowards who can't take responsibility.
God forbid we deal with reality. Just keep guffawing and enjoying your tax cuts while another batch of young Americans are buried, ignored by their president and an even larger batch goes home to a life of disability, while Republicans find new and creative ways to cut their benefits.
Posted by: Lindy | November 01, 2006 at 11:03 AM
Dana Milbank, Washington Post: "Well, of course it's manufactured. It's sort of this made-for-Fox-News Halloween thriller. It only runs in even years, but Karl Rove casts some spell, John Kerry turns into the Grim Reaper, and the Democrats all look as if they've seen a ghost."
think Milbank was wearing his dayglow orange vest while speaking. But he does worship at the altar of the God Karl. LOL
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 11:05 AM
Lets see if I have got this right, if you are a gay but dont announce it, and of course also a Republican congressman you should resign and every one that served with you should be voted out of office, but if you are below average intelligence Democrat Senator with a big mouth and an enormous ego you should be given a total pass for your own hateful words which you refuse to apologize for.
Check I got. So do a lot of voters.
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 11:12 AM
I'm to lazy to read all of the comments, but I had a thought that I have yet to see addressed (but may be in the comments).
If Kerry's "joke" was, if you don't study hard and get educated, you will lead us into Iraq (i.e., be a bad president in his estimation), then isn't he really putting himself down?
After all, Kerry went to the same college as Prez Bush - Yale - and had lower grades. And, Bush went on to graduate school while Kerry did not.
Thus, if Kerry's corrected joke is what he says it is, he has basically stated that he himself is not fit to be president, as he himself obviously did not study as hard as President Bush did while at Yale, and that he himself is less educated than Pres. Bush.
Or, am I missing some nuance that explains this simple contradiction?
- GB
Posted by: Great Banana | November 01, 2006 at 11:14 AM
Just keep guffawing
Funny thing, the same military that Kerry scorned are coming up with the most hilarious guffaws of all.
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 11:23 AM
He did go to law school. I think the argument if one accepts his botched joke is if you blow off college you'll be President.
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Gen McInerney has called for Kerry's resignation. Some Mass residents are beginning a recall petition. He is poison on the campaign trail and certainly will never be the party's nominee. What a fit end to the political career of this arrogant poseur.
Posted by: clarice | November 01, 2006 at 11:23 AM
Great Banana:
I'm to lazy to read all of the comments
“You know, reading JOM, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Kosistan.”
Posted by: hit and run | November 01, 2006 at 11:23 AM
On the local (Massachusetts) morning news this morning they reported that they took a poll and 80% of people polled said Kerry should apologize.
Posted by: Jane | November 01, 2006 at 11:25 AM
And that's Massachusetts!
Posted by: clarice | November 01, 2006 at 11:26 AM
That is bloody amazing!
Posted by: Jane | November 01, 2006 at 11:33 AM
Here's the point, wingnuts: We were taken to war by a REPUBLICAN administration, made up almost exclusively of draft dodgers and elitists, not one of whom had ever seen combat. To date, almost 3000 fine Americans have been killed and thousands more destroyed for life to serve a botched policy that a REPUBLCAN administration failed to implement, despite it being a war of their own choosing. This same REPUBLICAN administration has failed to provide any plan for success and has in the meantime cut veterans benefits, veterans programs, programs to help military families and even allowed active servicemen to be gouged by the usurers who have this Congress in their pockets.
And you would like the voters to focus on the inelegant phrasing of John Kerry, an actual combat veteran, who has devoted more time than any Senator to helping the veterans who mostly aren't even his constituents or supporters?
No wonder the country is chomping at the bit to throw you bastards the hell out.
Posted by: Lindy | November 01, 2006 at 11:38 AM
No wonder the country is chomping at the bit to throw you bastards the hell out.
Okay. And that still won't change that Kerry is a moron. ::grin::
Posted by: Sue | November 01, 2006 at 11:41 AM
CNN is more liberal than Massachusetts? Wow. their poll with their own wording has about 55% saying it was a deliberate statement. Slightly different so I guess you could reconcile that by saying it wasn't deliberate, but you should apologize anyway. An apology is so easy, and the only thing holding him back is his pride (and of course the virulent strain of BDS).
Posted by: Gary Maxwell | November 01, 2006 at 11:42 AM
Powerline notes the media is sitting on this.
The Washington Macaca Post buried it on page A8 and in most of the papers cited you have to really search to find out what Kerry said.
Michael Novak in today's NRO says he predicts a Rep pick up in the midterms, that this has become for many voters a referendum on the media and they are pissed off about their DNC megaphoning and distortions.
Posted by: clarice | November 01, 2006 at 11:49 AM
Please do not feed the tragically BDS-afflicted troll. :P
Posted by: SunnyDay | November 01, 2006 at 11:57 AM
YOu know we really will have to thank John Kerry for making the week prior to the election so much fun for us.
Posted by: Jane | November 01, 2006 at 12:03 PM
Powerline notes the media is sitting on this.
Fox coverage is wall to wall. Amy looked for it on all three local stations before 7 this morning and they all had it, and two were negative. That is simply unheard of around here.
Posted by: Jane | November 01, 2006 at 12:06 PM