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October 06, 2006

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hit and run

IMO, ABC knew they were being duped - they didn't care, and thought they would get a way with it.

Well,

TANG --> CBS, 2004
Pages --> ABC, 2006

Is there any doubt that NBC will have a similar incident in 2008?

Actually, maybe NBC was supposed to have taken a fall over Plame (Russert, Mitchell) but somehow escaped Rove's mindrays? Or maybe it won't be until 08 that the Libby trial finally exposes the peacock in all its ignomy?

topsecretk9

--IMO, ABC knew they were being duped - they didn't care, and thought they would get a way with it.--

Sunny, don't get me wrong...if you read through StoppredFAKE you see they refer to ABC and link in one of their 2 or 3 posts on "skinterns" BEFORE the emails

My opinion? Some reporter advised someone the only way this story goes live if it's leaked on the internets first.

Like Niger, like Rather, the media need the FAKE to go live.

SlimGuy

To put all this in perspective a little, we all have to remember that the page class we are discussing now were pages from the class that was active when the 9/11 attack occurred.

Sue

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=164>CREW

I'm trying to figure out what they are up to wanting a list of conservative christians that have visited the WH. Any thoughts?

topsecretk9

Hit and Run

DUI -->____ 2000
Stolen Debate tap -->2000
NIGER WILSON FUCrap --> CBS, 2003
TANG --> CBS, 2004
Pages --> ABC, 2006

In my opinion, the stealing the debate tape was par, the only reason Gore's people turned it over to authorities is they heard the Bush campaign knew about it.

BTW - 3 out of 5 of those deal with fake and fakish like documents.

topsecretk9

--I'm trying to figure out what they are up to wanting a list of conservative christians that have visited the WH. Any thoughts?--

Joe Wilson told them to.

Sue

http://www.citizensforethics.org/>CREW

Sorry.

topsecretk9

Sue

I was just joking, but Joe Wilson did give us a heads up on GOP Homophobia - hey, if you can't get the Jews, go for the homos!

...On Ken Mehlman, David Dreier, and being a "womanizer"

You know when they first started trying to come up with a way to discredit me, which we now know started in March of 2003, they went through the old standbys. 'He's had 3 wives, he's a womanizer, he's done drugs.' But then they realized they couldnt' use those because I've never actually denied them. I mean I'm the first to admit that, unlike Ken Mehlman and David Dreier, I really like women. Beyond that, going to UC-Santa Barbara in the late 60's, if you weren't smoking pot it was you who was the weird one....


LINK

SlimGuy

Like Niger, like Rather, the media need the FAKE to go live.

Posted by: topsecretk9 | October 06, 2006 at 08:22 PM

TS
I just went to their website and the oldest post they have is the one about the three emails he received. Eiter they scuttled the rest or he has set a limit of how many historic posts it will display

Gabriel Sutherland

Wow, Joe sounds like the ideal spokesperson for GLAAD. I'll have to check, but I don't think their slogan is "Everyone is Gay until they deny it".

OT: TPM Muckraker's are reporting that bar fly overhears US soldiers telling stories of beating detainees at Gitmo. TPM files it under 'torture'.

topsecretk9

Slim..

Look on the date archive to the left, it has them by month...we are on the cusp...convenient isn't it?


The most telling thing to me about SSPPredFAKE is they turned off comments...on comment said the site was Jason Leopold like.


If the MSM got duped by Leopold, YUM...but you can be sure they will poo poo the story from here on out

Leopold faked emails from Enron.

topsecretk9

Slim

sorry, date archive to the right.

topsecretk9

BTW...isn't this ironic and sick, disgusting and Wilson's good buddy David Corn


Joseph Wilson

I hear Ann going around exalting Joseph McCarthy. I recently read a book by Owen Lattimore called Ordeal by Slander in which he details the way in which McCarthy smeared him and attempted to destroy his life and the battle for his freedom that ensued. I wish Ann would read that book and see who she is using as a hero. Joseph McCarthy was a Nazi sympathizer who tried to destroy the lives of innocent people through a political witchhunt. That is who these people like Ann Coulter support. Remember that. Ann Coulter and her ilk are not only someone you would not want at your dining room table, they're people I wouldn't even allow in my home

birds of a f***king feather.

hit and run

I'm trying to figure out what they are up to wanting a list of conservative christians that have visited the WH. Any thoughts?

Holy crap, Sue. You scared me. I fit your description. But going to their site, CREW is specifically looking for conservative christian "leaders". Not me.

Ah, what am I saying, I wasn't scared. I visited the WH on Nov 25 of last year. Signed in at the NW gate at about 7:00pm. Come and get me.

clarice

What do you suppose these legal geniuses are up to? A claim that separation of church and state requires that only atheists be allowed to visit the WH?

Or can they come if they bring their own vittles?

SlimGuy

From what I gather here, one of the key thoughts is the SSP site was a setup to roll out the story.
We have tracked down multiple pages from the same class that may have some involvement.

Rogers says the site contacted him before he left a comment to have them contact him. Which sounds like a conflict but there is a slim chance that his comment he left and the email to him occurred simultaneously.

The problem is, who can have the power to determine who the site owner is.

The ethics committee will only be looking at internal house stuff most likely.

Does the FBI have any grounds to look at the site, even if it has gained a high profile in this case.

How long ago does the AOL archive go back by law, and is it far enough for the FBI to get access to the im's and MAF54's account?

All critical information needed to make a good case.

Gabriel Sutherland

Odd that CREW makes a FOIA request public prior to receiving a response from the government.

Is this a time when they are really begging for publicity?

Sue

H&R,

::grin:: Sorry about that. I did leave off the most important word "leaders".

Clarice,

What do you suppose these legal geniuses are up to?

I asked you first. ::grin::

SlimGuy

TS

I saw speculation in other places on the Jason possibility. After all he has fallen for some many other traps, but he has never in the past reverted to bogus blogs, he always presented it in public forums to get credit if his stuff was true...a drudge wannabe.

I think his ego wouldn't let him take this route to success as he views it.

topsecretk9

SEXIST HOMOPHOBE PELOSI SAYS

--'MAYBE IT WILL TAKE A WOMAN TO CLEAN UP THE HOUSE'...--

HOW DARE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEXIST!!!!!!!!!!! HOMOPHOBE!!!!!!!!!!!

IS NANCY really suggesting homosexuality is deviant and to be cleaned up by a woman?

AND who does Nancy thinks she is, only a HETRO WOMAN can clean up congress - Nancy just dishonored Lesbians and Gay Men who are MORE than capable...and suggests the ONLY SHE can witch hunt???


I mean really, if Nancy wanted to inspire MEN to vote -- she did.

anonymous

victuals

clarice

After their complaint in the Wilson suit and their motion to keep the Wilson/Plame addresses private, I wouldn't dare venture a guess.

SunnyDay

Sunny, don't get me wrong...if you read through StoppredFAKE you see they refer to ABC and link in one of their 2 or 3 posts on "skinterns" BEFORE the emails

Ahhhhhhh! I didn't make that connection.

You know what's scary? How much of the news we've been fed all these year is like this, and we just didn't have the means to fact-check.

And you know what is convincing? That such a sincere effort is being made to convince this site to stop investigating this.

..eagerly hunched over the keyboard - can't wait to see what's next..

clarice

I'd venture to say if she cleaned up the House it would be the first house cleaning that rich woman ever did.

topsecretk9

--Does the FBI have any grounds to look at the site, even if it has gained a high profile in this case.--

I would say so, the emails on SSP are different than the so-called originals via CREW...


Slim

--I saw speculation in other places on the Jason possibility. After all he has fallen for some many other traps,--


Jason is NOT stupid. Jason is very intelligent, too much for hi own good. He TAKES what people feed him, in essence - it is not his fault -- is how he looks at it.

SunnyDay

I do hope the gay community is seeing the duplicity here. Amazing!!

it's a shame that this episode has seriously set back efforts by so many talented gays in government - not to mention those who need to keep their secret, and must be terrified of that list. Can you imagine??

clarice

FR Poster notes that Edmunds posted on the page website about the ABC story SIX MINUTES after the story hit the wires.

Another odd coincidence?

LOL

"Here's when the story broke:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1710267/posts


Mr. Edmunds posted about it on the Pages website at 2:12pm which means if he was in Oklahoma he posted 6 minutes after ABC's article was posted on the internet. Now what are the chances that was just a coincidence"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1714978/posts?q=1&&page=264#264

MayBee

Jason is NOT stupid. Jason is very intelligent, too much for hi own good. He TAKES what people feed him, in essence - it is not his fault -- is how he looks at it.

I'm not sure if Jason himself is involved in this one. I think it may appear that way because the same people feeding THIS scandal are the same people that use Jason to feed the Wilson scandals. Jason's been roundly discredited (or re-descredited), but CREW has so far been allowed to keep the thin veneer of credibility as a 'watch-dog' group. Arf.

topsecretk9

Sunny

I predict in like 2 point 2 years, Gay Chic is going to be republican and ALL THE RAGE - that is all the gay fems want a stoic gay hard-ass...kinda like girls and boys.

I bet...everything Roger hoped for....will turn to bit him in his despicable ugly ass.


And it will be ROGERS no one wants to you know party and buy a drink.

Sarah Green

Hey, are you internet sleuths still at it tonight? I think I have a couple of new things (but by the time I post this, someone else will probably have beaten me to it).

1. ABC's Blotter is now saying that the staffer in Alexander's office that receive the emails from the former page is Danielle Savoy. Was that info already out? She also shows up now in the pdf of the emails.

2. CNN.com from 9/29 quoted Foley's spokesman Jason Kello saying this info had been shopped for weeks, and that Foley's opponent Mahoney was behind it:

"Kello disputed the claim that the e-mails weren't distributed by the Mahoney campaign.

"They've been shopping this around to reporters for weeks now. They want a headline and that's it. It's a political smear campaign of the worst kind," Kello said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/29/congressman.e.mails.ap/index.html

3. Concerning Fordham's two facedness, an emailer sent this to Rich Lowry at The Corner:

"Mr. Lowry — I work for an elected official in FL, so please don't use my name. And, I do have some firsthand experience here in terms of watching Kirk and Mark Foley in action [snip to protect e-mailer’s identity—RL]…

So Kirk says he was going to Scott Palmer in 2003 to beg them to do something about Foley and the pages. If that's true, can someone explain why Kirk was running Foley's aborted 2004 Senate campaign at the same time he was imploring the Speaker's office to do something about his boss' page problem?"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Njg2ZmY1MjI4MmY1NWUyYzc4MTE0M2RkNGFmNzkzYmQ=

SunnyDay

tsk9 - that would serve him right.

Hopefully, the gays who don't dye their hair pink and protest nude, will have become more visible, and feel more comfortable. I've always thought that the radical bunch were the big problem, anyway. They scare people.

A pink shirt is one thing, but pink hair doesn't get it with mainstream America. :D

SlimGuy

I'd venture to say if she cleaned up the House it would be the first house cleaning that rich woman ever did.

Posted by: clarice | October 06, 2006 at 09:15 PM

Lady you make one assumption that is not catagorically proven, ie. she is a woman.

LOL

SlimGuy

Sunnyday

Rush had a caller yesterday that said he was a gay who normally voted for the dems and he said that a lot of his circle of friends were totally POed about how this was playing out.

The dems might be trying to supress the religious right vote but they may be missing how much they are alienating their normal support amoung the gay community.

John Loki

topsecretk9, you forgot the Weinberg Indictment in 1992.

The next shoe to fall according to the BDS left, around the 17th of October, is that a claim will be made that Karl Rove is in the closet.

SlimGuy

John Loki

If you did a full read of Rogers website, that speculation is already there from him. I would have to go back for the link.

John Loki

I had heard that a Senator was being blackmailed on that site, but I never heard any speculation about Karl Rove.

MayBee

Heh. Unintentionally(?) funny from the page website:
Citadel
post Nov 30 2003, 03:35 PM

So, what was everyone's favorite place to go after work or on the weekends?
----

jordanedmund
post Dec 7 2003, 04:17 PM
Post #9

The sex room....(what???)...lol :roll:
----
Citadel
post Dec 7 2003, 07:15 PM
Post #10


hahaha which room would that be? lol
----
jordanedmund
post Dec 7 2003, 09:33 PM

Well the closet...

clarice

That's what I recall.

SlimGuy

For those of you who haven't fully looked at the Rogers website/blog he was encouraging all with cameras or cellphones with picture capability to out people during the Rep Covention in NY.

BTW

"Rush had a caller yesterday that said he was a gay who normally voted for the dems and he said that a lot of his circle of friends were totally POed about how this was playing out."

That's comical. You obviously don't know any gay folks personally so you have to rely on a faux gay caller to Limpbone's show for the scoop. If you would like to find out the truth just freakin talk to somebody gay.

stevesh

Posted over at Obsidian Wings:

>>>>>> I do believe that is Assrocket being hoisted in his own petard.
It's crossed from partisanship to flat-out psychosis on the parts of the Pauerlein crowd.
Posted by: Geek, Esq. | October 06, 2006 at 11:58 PM <<<<<<

Psychosis? Gopher Lawyer Envy? Was ist Los?

Geek's are checking in to see what y'all are up to.

topsecretk9

I just talked to my youngish gay friend (one of many) -- he is a Democrat, but not stupid.

He suggested a fabulous idea...HOW ABOUT A LIST OF JOURNALISTS THAT REALLY KNEW VALERIE PLAME WAS NOT COVERT and her cheese ball husband was full of shit BUT NEVER SAID SO - LIST

He said it would most likely rival the gay republicans.


I think he's brilliant

Walter

SlimGuy, Clarice,

I disagree heartily with Nancy Pelosi on many (most) (almost all) policy points. I voted against her in five straight House races. But what are you going to do? We had trouble breaking 20K votes for all her opponents combined.

But, in person and politics aside, she's a very pleasant lady. We have several friends in common.

She grew up in Democratic machine politics in Baltimore. While she was not poor, she was by no means rich. In SF, she's respected for avoiding the rampant corruption of the Brown machine and the ugly crudeness of John Burton (whose brother had the seat before her).

Recap:

Personally: Better than many.

Politically: Not so great.

Sara (Squiggler)

Larry King had a bunch of former pages on tonight. They explained alittle more how the program works.

There are pages for the repub. side and pages for the dem. side. They either work for the Clerk of the House in the Chamber, or they are assigned to the Cloak room for their respective side, or they are all over the Hill running errands, running from the floor to Member's office bringing papers back and forth, etc.

There are 3 types of programs. A Summer program that lasts about 2 months. The dem side program that is a full semester and the repub. side which is a full year.

One of the pages that Foley appointed was there and he said Foley was friendly but never did anything inappropriate and that he'd had interaction with Foley on several occasions and never saw him be inappropriate. He said he was completely shocked at what has happened. A female page who also had some interaction with Foley said the same thing.

SlimGuy

That's comical. You obviously don't know any gay folks personally so you have to rely on a faux gay caller to Limpbone's show for the scoop. If you would like to find out the truth just freakin talk to somebody gay.

Posted by: BTW | October 06, 2006 at 10:00 PM

I am straight but over the years I have many gay couples who are in my circle of contacts.

The callers own admission and his voice pattern and tone of voice contributed to giving credibility to his claim.

Yes I know some can put on the same aires, but the caller seemed credible.

John Loki

Walter,

You have to dance with whomever brought you.


MayBee

Sara- did you notice one of them was our friend Samwell? And by our friend, I mean Chris's friend.

He's the one that said (on LKL) that Congress people on all sides misbehave.

Sara (Squiggler)

Given how rabid Chris sounds with his elitism and arrogance and ignorant partisanship, one has to wonder also given the separation of the pages repub and dem if there isn't a little page rivalry that goes on? I'm not sure what that means in relation to this story, but there's gay Chris on the dem. side (is he part of this?) and Jordan of the IM on the repub. side and who knows who else that got in on the IM game.

BTW

Take a look at some of the major gay and lesbian organizations websites and report back what you find. Goofball.

JM Hanes

I'm just catching up and you guys may have already left Mike Rogers in the dust, but I think he's one sick cookie. His remarks on the newly popular pathology of the closet (to which Foley's unhealthy urges are attributed) seem almost rational, if bogus, in comparison to the central, delusional, bullshit he's peddling.

ROGERS on Tucker Carlson's show:

And Tucker, there are a number of gay Republicans and Democrats in Congress who I have not identified because they don‘t spend their days beating up lesbian and gay individuals. There are Republicans and Democrats that I have no interest on reporting on whatsoever because they‘re not hypocrites.

It‘s not about being gay. It‘s about being hypocritical. It‘s about saying I want to live by a different set of rules than everyone else. And that to me and I would hope to the American people, be it whether or not you‘re hitting on 16-year-olds online or you‘re deciding to restrict rights of the very community that you‘re asking to harbor you secretly, it‘s unacceptable.

Aside from the byzantine logic, and the fact that Foley apparently didn't want anything to do with Roger's community, there was hardly any secret harboring going on. The Miami Herald's Steve Rothaus (of SSP comment fame) reports that Foley was officially outed by The Advocate in 1996, and that "During his 2003 run for U.S.Senate, several Florida newspapers reported the old Advocate story." Rothaus quotes Rogers reiterating his bizarre rubric even more starkly:
No community is expected to harbor their own enemies from within. He is an enemy of our community, yet he wants to step into our community and put us at risk. He puts every one of us in a bad light.
I'm sure there's a professional term for folks who interpret a stranger's personal choices, like Foley declining to discuss his orientation publicly, as a personal assault of cosmic proporations. Paranoia with a twist? Foley's real sin was his refusal to step into the Rogers political camp at all. What's hardest to see is how Foley qualifies as an "enemy," given the final ironic statistic from the Human Rights Campaign (PDF here), delivered at the end of Rothaus' column:
In 2005, HRC gave Foley an 88 out of 100 score on gay issues, making him one of the highest-ranked Republicans in Congress.
That would be an understatement. Not only is Foley's voting record on gay issues as good or even better than 50% of his DEMOCRATIC colleagues, there's only one Representative in his own party (Rbt Simmons, CT) with a higher ranking. In other words, Rogers has spent years trying to destroy one of gays' best and only public friends in the Republican party, and contra Rogers, one of the rare few who consistently stood up and voted to advance gay issues. Rogers does get one thing right, though even there he picks the wrong target: this is not about being gay, it's about being hypocritical -- and lying to yourself as much as others.

John Loki

Slimguy,

Tammy Bruce has put aside a lot of differences she has with Bush (no pun intended) and has come to realization that Radical Islam is more of threat to the alternative lifestyle community (ALC) than the Rev Jerry Falwell.

I don't understand why the ALC is not more supportive of the war on terror.

BTW

Official statement from the Log Cabin Republican
website. Doesn't sound like even they are too happy with the repugs! LGR is the "nation's largest organization of Republicans who support fairness, freedom, and equality for gay and lesbian Americans."

(Washington, DC) – Log Cabin Executive Vice President Patrick Sammon issued the following statement regarding Mark Foley:

"Mark Foley's shameful actions were reprehensible. He abused the power of his office, violated the trust of the voters, and exploited young people.

"There should be a thorough criminal investigation by appropriate law enforcement agencies. If Mark Foley broke the law, he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

"Additionally, there should be a full investigation to see if Congressional leaders responded appropriately to Foley's behavior. This unfortunate and inappropriate situation shouldn't be unduly politicized.

"Preying on young people is shameful, immoral, unethical and illegal, regardless of sexual orientation."

topsecretk9

--She grew up in Democratic machine politics in Baltimore. While she was not poor, she was by no means rich. In SF, she's respected for avoiding the rampant corruption of the Brown machine and the ugly crudeness of John Burton (whose brother had the seat before her).

Recap:

Personally: Better than many.

Politically: Not so great.

Posted by: Walter | October 06, 2006 at 10:04 PM==


No offense Walter, but I don't need the Nancy "care" story.OR a primer.Thanks. She IS a dog eat dog, she's shown in SF politics..


BUT ....THANKS for finally showing where you are coming from...Are you a Pelosi BOT using the internets?

Walter

John Loki,

Don't get me wrong. She could well be involved. She plays mean politics. And she wants to win. There're reasons (besides demographics) that she approached 90% of the vote.

Just a nice lady is all I'm saying.

topsecretk9

BUL SHIT WALTER -


YOU JUST GOT PUNKED....you know I flippin KNEW IT.


GO back to NANCY's blog and do your sock-puppet
"shes strong" bull shit

PUNKED

I KNEW IT!!!

SunnyDay

Rogers' site hints at many - but often they "out" someone without any real proof - especially those they are blackmailing. Many of us here (in Virginia) followed very closely when he went after Ed Schrock. We asked, did anyone verify that was Ed Schrock's voice on that tape - he didn't - he just took someone else's word that it was Schrock. That was bad enough.

No one knows - Schrock never made a comment, he just resigned and left public life completely. He did go in and vote against the bill in question, haha. I had to laugh. Then he resigned, and lives a very private life - with his family. I heard he went through a bad depression, was hospitalized.

Rogers claims that Schrock's reaction is proof that the tape was real.

If you look in the comments, you'll see that he said he was going after Thelma Drake, that there were rumors about her. Nothing has happened, so I don't know if they gave up or what.

Gay or not, it would be terrifying to be stalked by someone as unbalanced as Rogers. He has no empathy or feelings for others. Kind of a sociopath, I think, in that regard.

Its difficult for many gays. I worked with a really nice guy, who was obviously gay - he dressed it, acted like it. Talking to him was like talking to another woman. After a months of eating lunch together every Friday, he agonizingly "confessed" that he was gay. he said he was afraid I wouldn't be his friend any longer, but he felt he owed it to me to be honest.

How awful is that? To be afraid to be yourself with a friend.

I didn't help, I laughed when he told me, and he was baffled when I said I had known all along. I told him the yellow suit and large diamond ring were dead giveaways. Not to mention all the recipe sharing between us. He was relieved, but that stays in my memory - that he was afraid I wouldn't like him any more.

GOP _ GOTCHA

Walter...you have been watched and you just got PUNKED

Sara (Squiggler)

Maybee, I only saw that one segment. My dog got hurt a couple of weeks ago and cut her mouth real bad. It has gotten infected and I can't get down on the floor with her to try to doctor it so right when that segment was on the kids showed up to help with the dog. They ended up taking her home with the them so they could clean the wound and in all the hubbub, I never got to hear the rest of the show.

Walter

Tops,

I'm sorry you don't have friends across the aisle.

I no longer reside in SF. I never voted for, donated to, or worked for Pelosi. I have friends who have (and do).

I also have friends who were Alan Keyes delegates.

I think that you can make a political case without questioning Pelosi's femininity or whether she has ever done housekeeping.

I could be wrong.

SlimGuy

BTW

In case you haven't noticed , you are considered here like a speed bump. Yes we know they exist and we deal with them often, but teenagers are more concerned about zits than we are about you.

SlimGuy

Sunnyday

Any one Rodgers adds to his list on the website/blog he has determined and outed by multiple sources who go on the record with him.

He is also prone to speculation and then asking for input from his readers for proof.

His whole thing is leveraging the power of the net to support his agenda.

topsecretk9

Walt..

--I'm sorry you don't have friends across the aisle--

Apparently you don't read.


SunnyDay

SG, IMO, he did not have proof for Schrock. You had to accept that the voice on the tape was Schrock's.

Walter

Apparently not well.

Goodnite.

topsecretk9

SMOKED!

topsecretk9

Come on Walter... you working in on it?

SlimGuy

SG, IMO, he did not have proof for Schrock. You had to accept that the voice on the tape was Schrock's.

Posted by: SunnyDay | October 06, 2006 at 10:35 PM


I am not familiar with all the particulars involved in Rogers position, I just did an entire read of his website, since he seems to be one of the players here. It doesn't take more than an hour or so to read his site since he only created it when he jumped the shark of the family marriage admendment.

Haven't looked at the comments on his website for what gems they might provide, maybe this weekend will permit that.

I appreciate your input, I just comment on what I have seen on his site from reading it all.

I do not suggest in any way he is infallible.

This can most strongly be illustrated with the inconsistancy looked at earlier in this thread about his claim that SSP contacted him first and his leaving a comment on the site to contact him.

Walter

Tops,

What can I say. You got me. 22 years a registered Republican, VP of my Federalist Society chapter, and all to naught as I have been outed.

Goodnight.

topsecretk9

Yeah..Mr. Walter who reads legal pleadings SO well and ask Jeff to you know "dive right in" -- can you see the knuckles cracking ...

Yeah...a whole bunch of bullshit.

topsecretk9

WALTER


Surfers have a sayinf...suck my ass,

YOU and Pelosi got SO PUNK"D!!!!!

PUNK"D!!!!! PUNK"D!!!!! PUNK"D!!!!! PUNK"D!!!!! PUNK"D!!!!!

topsecretk9

Hey Walt

Know how I know?

SlimGuy

Sara

I am sorry to hear of all your difficulties. That has to be a living hell.

I have followed your blog for a while, but at the moment for some reason the blog is showing as not being able to load the live link in Firefox today and it only displayed it up to a couple of weeks ago point yesterday.

SlimGuy

Off topic

I am listing to Rush off his website, since I am always to busy to listen to him in real time.

He just talked about 200,000 people not returning to New Orleans since Katrina.

My concern is how many of these people could try to vote where they are now and also vote in New Orleans.

I hope someone gets a handle on this major potential problem. It is something I have raised on other blogs months ago.

Sara (Squiggler)

By DUmmie FUnnies

Allow me to introduce to you a new word---"De-Foley-ating." De-Foley-ating, inspired by the Mark Foley page scandal, is what happens when the Democrats, worried that the scandal is waning, decided to coarsen the political discourse even more by outing gay Republicans. This dirty politics technique of of outing Republicans is what can be call de-Foley-ating. Of course, if the Repbublicans had attempted such a dirty trick, there would be a tidal wave of OUTRAGE in the media but since it is the Democracrats performing the de-Foley-ation, only the chirping of crickets can be heard from the MSM. One of...

topsecretk9

OH...lets you and me just dive right in th cases and see where is stands....

-- Yeah, thank you GOOGle with all those caches"s

SlimGuy

Wasn't it PEST? Values-related, anyway. They weren't very shy about it at the time.

Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2006 at 05:54 PM

This was a term Rush started

Post Election Selection Trauma

He has a whole parody takeoff on it and it is played many times in his broadcast during fillers.

SunnyDay

SG - read the comments, they're enoightening, in some cases. Tedious in others, sorry.

For everyone - someone just posted this on my site, it's funny. So, for you viewing pleasure

Dumb people everywhere

stevesh

TS9

Info on John Aravosis and CREW collaboration in your e-mail. He says in his latest AmericaBlog.com post that he held the e-mails because CREW told him they had sent them to the FBI. Will FBI ask him to corroborate time-frame he talked to CREW, what copies he had, did they match CREW's, et.al.?

clarice

Why jump on Walter? He's always civil and contributes a lot?

Have we come to any conclusion on the three new pages Ross has turned up besides the fact that they are probably Dems, are unidentified and have no documentation?

Sara (Squiggler)

Slimguy -- I'm not sure what you are saying, but I use Firefox and it is loading fine and up-to-date for me. I haven't posted today. I was doing a Foley link roundup and had it about half done when I somehow lost the whole post. I was so mad, I shut the computer down in disgust and just came back on line a few minutes ago.

clarice

Sara, have you contacted your lender, explained the situation and tried to work this out? What about legal aid? Lenders do not like to foreclose if something can be worked out.

SlimGuy

Sara
I just checked
The message I am getting when I highlite your blog is "live bookmark failed to load"

SlimGuy

The only way I could access your blog was to click on one of your past posts and then hit the banner to go to your homepage to access the more recent postings.

SlimGuy

The message I referenced just showed up today.
For a couple of weeks it was stuck on a prior post.

I know I can google squiggler and get to it, but that is a workaround.

SunnyDay

Loads fine for me. IE.

SlimGuy

Perhaps if I can identify which post my firefox got stuck on then maybe a rss feed glitch can be identified.

Add to my todo list

SlimGuy

Back to the subject at hand

Even if several pages have been identified who may have motives to create the SSP website and the alternative is Jason doing work, I suspect it maybe a party we don't know of yet.

The posts I have seen on the site, quite frankly do not come up to the standard of smarts that would suggest it would be an ex page, unless they carefully dumbed it down.

At the moment I don't have a clue who it could be, but still I have issues with how this obscure site managed to become a surogate birth point for this situation.

Hopefully future work will connect the dots.

clarice

Foley's spokesman said Foley's opponent , Mahoney, had been unsuccessfully shopping the story around to the media for some time. ABC ran the story using the tag that Mahoney had seen this on the blog and demanded an investigation. How hard is it to figure out it was someone working with Mahoney who did this. The emails on SSP are fake as can be..It looks like they tried to hide the source by not copying and faxing them but by redoing them and posting them or something.

Sara (Squiggler)

Clarice, starting Monday, I'm going to call everyone I can think of and then if I have to, go thru the yellow pages. The problem is that lots of people will do a new loan, I'd take interest only since I just want enough money to get out of hock and pay someone to come and clean and paint so I can get it on the market, but no one will fund a new loan as long as this one is in arrears. If I could afford to bring everything current, I wouldn't need a new loan. It kills me because I have $300,000 in equity and for want of about $11,000 I'm going to lose it all.

The good news today is my son got a new job that pays double what he was making and has full benefits which he didn't have before and my d-i-l got a big promotion today as well that will add abut 40% more to her check. They both say this is a sign that things are turning around and that it is my turn now. I'll hang on to any hope I can get at this point, but just the hint of hope has spurred me to give it one more try.

I'm sorry I unloaded earlier. Sometimes I just get so upset and scared. This back thing makes everything harder and the constant pain is very stressful, making even molehills look like the Himalayas. Sometimes I think I just want to get the dog and cat and get in my car and drive until I run out of gas. The trouble with that is, I can't lift my makeup case and purse together, let alone a suitcase, so I don't think I'd get very far without even a change of underwear.

My girlfriend was struck down in her early 50s with rheumatoid arthritis, a terrible disease. She was a real estate salesperson and had several gay clients who ended up becoming good friends. She mothers them with homecooked meals and they take care of her and do most of the heavy lifting. She has her own little male gay harem who dote on her, take care of her lawn, clean her house, even give her designer furniture when they redecorate every couple of years. That's what I need. LOL. This house has 4 BR and a separate m-i-l space in back. I rattle around in here by myself. I need to run a boarding house, but only rent to neat freak handymen who like to cook too. LOL.

SlimGuy

Sara

A broken back is a very compelling and strong problem.

I have a neighbor who was involved in a horrific accident that broke her back amoung much other damage.

Quite frankly the damage was so extensive that in the aftermath, she actually had to have here breasts rebuilt from tissue from her rear end and nipples recreated from other tissue.

topsecretk9

Banned

Sara (Squiggler)

slimguy, try changing your feed to the feedburner feed for Squiggler. I had to change mine for Bloglines. Something went all screwy with the rdf feed back when Typepad went thru the bad DOS attacks.

MayBee

Banned

Posted by: topsecretk9 | October 06, 2006 at 11:42 PM
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What, ts? What just happened?

SlimGuy

Clarice we already established earlier in this thread that some of the fired staff of the representative from Louisiana ended up in staff of people adjacent to Foleys district.

If anyone believes there is not communication between dem or rep staff of all participants in a state election is a bit naive.

SunnyDay

Sara, I have a mortgage forum on my site, with lots of pro's who know about programs to prevent foreclosure (not people who will rip you off). It's a consumer "help" forum.

I'm not here to promote my site or anything, but you might find someone there with an answer - they've helped a lot of people. I think you just click on my name to get there.

another option you might want consider is http://www.prosper.com - a place to borrow money under unusual circumstances.

clarice

Sara. I know this is dispiriting but you must act . There are even free credit counseling services in lots of communities which can assist you in dealing with the bank. It is not worth their trouble to foreclose if you can come up with any reasonable plan.. In the worst case perhaps a real estate person can find a buyer willing to take the house for less in it's present condition. You will end up with less than if it were in good condition, but it will still be more than you'd end up after a foreclosure which would also jeopardize future credit.

Sara (Squiggler)

SG, I don't know how compelling and strong, but I know it is damn painful and the pain is getting very old. Ouch for your neighbor, that sounds awful.

Sara (Squiggler)

THanks SunnyDay.

SlimGuy

If anyone were to do an entire social networking tree of where all the members of the Clinton years ended up after it's term was over it would show a shocking number of people landing in prime and leakable positions.

It makes any prior administration fallout pail in comparison.

They salted the beltway environment with their minions to an extent that few have realized.

We are now reaping the pain.

BTW

"In case you haven't noticed , you are considered here like a speed bump. Yes we know they exist and we deal with them often, but teenagers are more concerned about zits than we are about you."

Most teenagers are very very concerned about zits.
Most teenagers would have the sense not to launch a preemptive war to preempt nothing. Most teenagers would have the sense to respond aggressively to a disaster like Katrina. Most teenagers would have taken the threat of Al Qaeda seriously if they received a CIA memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US". Most teenagers have the sense not to screw with the US constiution. Most teenagers don't want to get buggered by perverted 52 yo US congressman.

Most teenagers ... but not the one in the Oval Office.

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