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October 21, 2006

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PeterUK

"This prediction left me reaching for some Fernet Branca".

This the ladies version of the Glock 16?

My vote for phrase of the year "Mired in gridlock".

ajacksonian

Ah, where is my Car Wars?

"If you don't like the way I drive get off the street...

The sidewalk...

The lawn..."

If its marching season, what's the bag limit?

SteveMG

Yeah, but really, what does one wear to a street protest nowadays?

Now, the men can wear one of these, I suppose: Cheap shot? Tell it to Olbermann, I say

SMG


topsecretk9

SMG

Skortman is hilarious.

--They're breezy, they're sexy and they're easy to wear!---

topsecretk9

PUK

--"This prediction left me reaching for some Fernet Branca".--

I am not sure if I wanted to puke that she was relating all her "street " analysis from Gore Vidal at a dinner party, but your selected quote is the biggest gag with a giant silver elitist spoon ever!

SteveMG

Skortman is hilarious.

Notice that he's not on the motorcycle itself? Standing next to it?

I want to see him riding the motorcycle wearing that thing.

Well, not really but......

SMG

Cecil Turner
If for whatever reason we don’t win back Congress in November the only real answer will be to take to the streets.
This is so true. They need to tell this to everyone who'll listen between now and Nov 7th. Maybe take out a couple adds.
PeterUK

Time to stock up on the Birkenstocks

PeterUK

"If for whatever reason we don’t win back Congress in November the only real answer will be to take to the streets".

With her money and Bush tax cuts,why would she nned to go on the streets,is she,er,trying to work the base?

richard mcenroe

Considering the parade of luggage-topped Mercedes I watched fleeing Bel Air and Beverly Hills during the '91 riots like so many Kuwaiti refugees, I'll take my chances.

clarice

Heh, You're talking about the wife of am eco-nut who owns a 26 car garage in Malibu. You aren't looking for consistency are you?

Bob

If its marching season, what's the bag limit?

That's a good question aj... plus I hate catch and release!

Lesley

OT Humor

I was sitting next to a friend of mine at my son's football game. One of the members of our team is a Korean exachange student. Last year, he and his sister were living with a family from our school. So, I asked Julie:

"Julie, where are Seung-Hoon and his sister living this year? Are they with the same family?"

Julie replies: "No, they are living with a retired librarian. She keeps Korean kids in her basement."

SHE KEEPS KOREAN KIDS IN HER BASEMENT!!!!

Is that a great title for a Halloween horror flick or what? Maybe Lyn Davis could use some Korean kids, in her basement even. I seem to recall they fiercely defend their territory during riots in LA.

PeterUK

Clarice,
Yes but,street walking.

Terrye

Yeah right, they are going to take it to the streets.

Puhleaze, these people do not clean up after themselves, or raise their own children or wash their cars or do anything else that the little people do. Perhaps they should say that they will get drunk, do drugs, act stupid, insult a police officer and get bailed out of jail by their high powered attorney who will promptly ship them off to rehab.

Now that I would believe.

Syl

SHE KEEPS KOREAN KIDS IN HER BASEMENT!!!!

LOL!

I just watched the author of 'Screwed' or how the Republicans are ruining the middle class and our country or something like that.

I thought I'd be polite and listen, when one of them started talking about how Reps steal elections I turned it off.

These guys think all they have to do is shout and people will agree with them.

They think America's democracy is in shambles because they're not in power.

Not THAT is Hubris and Denial!

SlimGuy

I want to see him riding the motorcycle wearing that thing.

Well, not really but......

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG | October 21, 2006 at 12:58 PM

I just wanna see him stop off in one of the local biker bars here for a little refreshement > evil grin <

Foo Bar

I agree that some on the left are too quick to suspect election rigging.

I am not particularly impressed with Sister Toldjah's post, however. She writes:

They’ve never been able to explain how on one hand he’s the world’s biggest idiot, yet on the other hand has managed to orchestrate election fraud on a widespread scale. Probably because this, like so many of their other inconsistencies, is something they can’t explain.

Please. Is anyone suggesting that Bush himself has been using his computer expertise to hack into the Diebold voting machines or otherwise managing the technical details of an election fraud operation? There are many problems with the theory that recent elections have been rigged, but inconsistency with the belief that Bush isn't especially bright is not one of them.

And then there's this:

they’ve been losing big since 1994 - but during the 1994, 96, and 98 elections we didn’t hear this massive outcry of election rigging - apparently Democrats losing elections in the 90s had nothing to do with Republicans officials acting nefariously throughout the country

???

Democrats won the Presidency and picked up seats in the House in '96 (while losing 2 in the Senate), and they picked up more seats in the House in '98 and maintained the status quo in the Senate. Not to mention getting the Senate back to 50-50 in 2000. Losing big since '94? That's a pretty lazy generalization.

Mark

Barron's, via Drudge, reporting that their studies show Republican's holding both Houses of Congress.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm

Is conventional wisdom wrong, again?

SlimGuy

Is conventional wisdom wrong, again?

Posted by: Mark | October 21, 2006 at 03:32 PM

No but the conventional spin is.

Gary Maxwell

Be real careful. You got close to using wisdom and the media in the same sentence. Surely you know that those two dont go together.

Terrye

Foo Bear:

Democrats have been losing ground in other elections. Governorships, state houses, etc. Not all of our government is federal.

I know a lot of people who really do not consider themselves Republican but vote that way because they think the Democrats sound like idiots.

Sue

but inconsistency with the belief that Bush isn't especially bright is not one of them.

No, of course not. However, no one has explained to me, satisfactorily, how Shrub's daddy's friends stole him the election without explaining why Shrub's daddy's friends didn't steal the election for daddy. That is inconsistency. The left doesn't need solid reasoning, not with the group they are working with.

Sue

If for whatever reason we don’t win back Congress in November the only real answer will be to take to the streets.

My question is has she ever been on the streets? Other than Rodeo Drive?

I would be willing to give her the streets, if she really wants to take them. The homeless can move into one of her mansions.

Gary Maxwell

I am sure she also claims she was at Woodstock. An old burn out who really was at Woodstock once told me that he is certain that the number of folks who claim to have been at Woodstock number in the multimillions. He said Max Yasgur's farm must have been bigger than he remembered it to be. It was so chic to claim to be there and many of these uber libs are really arrested development hippies, so it fits. Where is Jerry Rubin?

Patton

I disagree that the Democrats haven't laid out their vision if they are given power...but I think the RNC and the Congress/White House have done a terrible job of educating the public.
They could easily lay out the Democrats strategy:

AND HERE IS THE DEMOCRATS 5 POINT PLAN:

1. Democrats will not treat terrorist attacks as warfare, but rather criminal acts requiring law enforcement.

2. Democrats will not treat terrorists as illegal combatants, or even as POW/EPW, but will treat them as US citizens with all rights under the Constitution.

3. Democrats will treat foriegn terrorists as US citizens when it comes to intelligence gathering to include electronic surveillance, interrogation and
confinement.

4. Democrats when they finally do convict a terrorist in court will give them light sentences as a Cliton judge just did in New York. Though the prosecutor asked for 30 years, the Clinton appointee meated out a stiff 28 month sentence and they are allowed to be free while appealing the conviction.

5. Democrats, when they finally do convict a terrorist will give them pardons when politically helpful to their campaigns. As Clinon did with previous terrorists that attacked on American soil.


The RNC could easily put together an ad outlining all these positions which are in fact acurate and can be documented with proven instances from Reno/Gorelicks wall to Clinton stating we should not overreact to a bombing of the World Trade Center.

Foo Bar

However, no one has explained to me, satisfactorily, how Shrub's daddy's friends stole him the election without explaining why Shrub's daddy's friends didn't steal the election for daddy. That is inconsistency

Well, for one thing, Karl Rove was fired from the '92 GHWB reelection campaign and even before that did not have the same kind of control he's had in GWB's campaigns. It's not as if precisely the same set of people were in charge in both cases.

Also, in '92 Clinton won pretty comfortably in terms of electoral votes. It's not so absurd to believe that a genuinely close election could be stolen but not one where the other candidate has a sizable lead.

Again, I haven't seen good evidence that any of the recent elections were rigged, but I don't think those theories can be dismissed solely on simple internal inconsistency grounds.

Cecil Turner

I agree that some on the left are too quick to suspect election rigging.

I don't think the silliness over rigging is really the point (nor accusations of fraud, which are far more of a Dem staple than for the GOP). The bit highlighted in red is the issue, wherein the proper result is taken as an article of faith, as well as a call to revolt if they don't win. The utter lack of respect for the process is repelling, and the obvious word plays (e.g., "Democrats reject democracy") are just icing on the cake.

PeterUK

Cecil,

Democrats STOP Democracy.

Can anyone photoshop that?

maryrose

Foobar:
Your boy Clinton never got over50% and his erstwhile wife won't either if she decides to run in 08. She finally admitted in a debate that she's thought about running. I can't wait for her to get reamed in the primaries. Kerry will have to decide about his Senate seat if he runs. My guess is he'll hold on to the sure thing.

Sue

Again, I haven't seen good evidence that any of the recent elections were rigged, but I don't think those theories can be dismissed solely on simple internal inconsistency grounds.

Ahhh...finally, someone who came up with a satisfactory answer to the why daddy's friends didn't steal the election for him. The evil Karl Rove had not honed his skills just yet.

The only election that was actually stolen was the one where LBJ guaranteed Texas for Kennedy then proceeded to deliver. It isn't true that dead men aren't democrats. Actually, I think the Illinois democrats might have been just as dirty as the Texas democrats but not in the same election cycle.

Sue

Competing headlines at http://www.drudgereport.com/>Drudge...

With Guarded Cheer, Democrats Dare to Believe This Is Their Time

Magazine Shock: Republicans Will Hold Congress

They can't both be right. ::grin::

Rick Ballard

MaryRose,

Joe Lieberman showed the true courage of his convictions by simultaneously running for the Senate and the Vice-Presidency in 2000. There is no reason why Brave Sir John won't do the same, even if he's shooting for the top slot.

What's really going to be interesting in the aftermath of this election is what will happen if the Dems pickup 12 seats and they are all moderates rather than lefties. I'm only counting two or three lefties who have a chance of coming on board so the split between the socialist caucus and the moderate caucus could see some fireworks. If you look really closely, the Pelosi/Harman fracas could actually be the beginning of a struggle for the minority leadership position. If so, it would strengthen the Dems significantly if Harman wins. The weight of the total lefty contingent is about the same as that of the Black Caucus in a Presidential year - just above zero.

The battleground states in '08 are definitely going to include WI, MI and MN in addition to OH and PA. The socialists are losing ground there at a significant rate.

I still consider the MI, MN and WI governor's races to be among the most significant this year. Particularly WI where that same day registration would finally be halted.

clarice

Actually, in my heart I believe there was so much vote fraud in Milwaukee and Racine in 2000 and 2004, the Reps did win there. Rick. When I was goriwng up there--and we had regular registration procedures--it was the cleanest state in the country.

Foo Bar

The bit highlighted in red is the issue, wherein the proper result is taken as an article of faith, as well as a call to revolt if they don't win. The utter lack of respect for the process is repelling

I pretty much agree. She is wrong to advocate protests without hard evidence of election rigging.

SlimGuy

Some have may have heard about Hillarys performance last night in her debate which was mostly locally broadcast. Dick Morris has a negative view of her performance.

To judge for yourself

http://www.news10now.com/shared/videolists/buildasx.asp?vids=124&mswmext=.asx

SunnyDay

PUK

stop sign

PeterUK

Sunny Day,
Excellent,make a very good T shirt.

Charlie (Colorado)

Where is Jerry Rubin?

Died in '94 after being hit by a car. he was a friend of mine when he was living in Denver.

Neo

reporting that their studies show Republican's holding both Houses of Congress.

Damn those Diebold guys.

The only question left is .. which state will be labeled the pivotal state ? Previous winners include Florida and Ohio.

Neo

being hit by a car

reminded me of this joke ..

How do you find Malibu ?

Take the on Pacific Coast Highway North till you hit Ben Vereen.

Neo

Kerry will have to decide about his Senate seat if he runs.

A 2008 run for Kerry will put his Senatorial legislative legacy in jeopardy.

LOL

SlimGuy

I attended a meet the candidate speech thingy tonight in my little ole home town.

We had our usual bbq/political get together to me the congressional candidates.

However, ours is just a little different than most.

Our meetup included two dems and two reps.

Oh yeah we got the fact the primaries are over with, but here is the oddball thing of this little town of about 19k population.

Our town is split about even with an east/west main street.

The way the congressional districts are drawn, if you live south of the main street you are in one congressional district and if you live north of the main street you are in another congressional district.

Only in america. LOL

SlimGuy

Just to give you an idea of how fair and balanced the congressional district maps are here.

This is the closeout data from 10 days ago when voter registration deadlines were passed in my state.

The district north of the main drag.

75,435 REP 227,675 DEMS

The district south of the main drag

203,000 REP 201,743 DEMS

SlimGuy

I received a fax earlier tonight that said one of those "say what" moments.

Seems there is a congressional district in another state that has some very interesting demographics.

The total number of census figure people in the district over the age of 18 is 1,842,654

The closeout books on registration are as follows

Rep 422,647 Dems 2,426,943

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

SlimGuy

Waiting for the fax correction that the first digit on the Dem side was an error, but you never know. LOL

topsecretk9

Lyn Mear halloween costume!

scary

Daddy

Speaking of scary costumes, Skortman is frightening, but the one TM posted above of a clown (Bozo?, Ronald McDonald?) kept coming back to me as even more terrifying. Then it struck me; that clown is wearing the exact same colors as the baseball team that just whipped New York in the National League Playoffs.
This immediately brought to mind a key quote from the prior thread, "This may, in fact, be only coincidence, and simply 'Look Bad.' But coincidence, in this town, is rare."
Personally I suspect sombody just stopped off for a Big Mac on the way home from the Met's getting clobbered, but my good friend Sigmund Freud's got a couple questions for somebody's Id.

Bob

A Good Morning Read:

We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News By SIMON WALTERS, Mail on Sunday Last updated at 21:11pm on 21st October 2006

Former BBC business editor Jeff Randall said he complained to a 'very senior news executive', about the BBC's pro-multicultural stance but was given the reply: 'The BBC is not neutral in multiculturalism: it believes in it and it promotes it.'

Randall also told how he once wore Union Jack cufflinks to work but was rebuked with: 'You can't do that, that's like the National Front!'

Quoting a George Orwell observation, Randall said that the BBC was full of intellectuals who 'would rather steal from a poor box than stand to attention during God Save The King'.


Europe always brags that it's a few years ahead of America... let's hope our MSM finally admits it is bias too. If the NYT keeps losing money, hopefully we won't have to wait long!

Patton

ROSS PEROT and the BLOW JOB.

That's the answer to any Republican, moderate, sentrist or conservative Democrat thinking of staying home or voting for a Democrat.

You were suckered twice before into voting for Perot and we got Bill Clinton who got BJs spread through every grade school in America by having his adminstration lie and obstruct justice for 9 straight months.

Bob

Patton,

I only voted for Perot once... I learned my lesson! Never again will I make a "protest" vote! Well except for voting for Lieberman this November 7th. But that I consider a vote for the better of two evils!

Patton

You will be able to tell if Hilliary Clinton is running if some rich, semi-Republican decides to run as an independent ala Ross Perot.

Its no coincidence he gave Clinton two terms.

Pofarmer

Rep 422,647 Dems 2,426,943

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

It seems that in the '04 election St. Louis also had a couple of districts that had more registered voters than inhabitants. ACORN working overtime!!!!! No wonder they don't want photo ID for voters. It's an undue restriction on dead people!!

SlimGuy

Years ago when I went thru my first schooling after bootcamp at Great Lakes near Chicago, we used to go up to Milwaukee a lot on the weekends.

All the college students up there always bragged that since they had 3 or 4 fake id's to be able to drink in the bars, they also used them for fake voter registrations so they could vote early and vote often.

Jane

Just saw the President of Stephanopolus. I thought he did a really good job.

Rick Ballard

SG,

There aren't any districts with Voting Age Populations of 1.8M. I'm following about 50 races fairly closely and the range of VAPs is from 433K in IA-01 to 654K in NV-03. Maybe that's a state total. Registration reports which don't include a number for independents are curious. The VAPs for the three FL races I'm following are FL-13 579K, FL-16 577K and FL-22 535K. Registration runs about 80% (national average) and the Voting Eligible Population) is 3-7% smaller than the VAP (depending on how many Democrats in a district are in prison at the time of the election).

Cecil Turner

. . . they also used them for fake voter registrations so they could vote early and vote often.

It'll be interesting to see if new voter ID procedures will have an effect on that sort of thing. SCOTUS recently lifted the injunction on the Arizona statute (previously blocked by a Ninth Circuit stay):

Given the imminence of the election and the inadequatetime to resolve the factual disputes, our action today shall of necessity allow the election to proceed without an injunction suspending the voter identification rules.
Similar laws have been overturned in Missouri and Georgia, and the Arizona one may eventually be as well.

SlimGuy

I agree with you Rick thats the reason I say all the figures on that fax are bogus, must of been typed up by some goberment school trained volunteer and sent out without review.

Most districts in my state have TOTAL population around the 660,000 area of course to voting age is less than that.

Pofarmer

The MO decision is under appeal, I beleive.

SlimGuy

Rick

I noticed you were doing a lot of focus on Fl districts.

I live in Florida and here is recent data on the districts as of Aug 7,2006

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voterreg/pdf/2006/z26GenCong.pdf


Fl -3 shows a major imbalance of rep/dem due to the way the district is drawn

Also Fl 25 has as part that weird situation of Monroe County with a whopping grand total combined voter registration of 20 registered voters and 1 precinct to vote at.

Rick Ballard

If anyone wants to know more about how high the hill is in any particular district, this Census Bureau site gives the VAP numbers (18 years and older) and this House">http://clerk.house.gov/members/electionInfo/elections.html">House site has all the numbers for particular states and districts (use the HTML version - it's very easy).

If anyone knows of a site that has reasonably current registration numbers on a district by district basis, I would appreciate hearing about it. The actual vote in a district in '02 is the "best data" that I've found to date. (Comparing Presidential years to midterm years is apples and oranges).

Rick Ballard

Now that's cool. I had an answer before I asked the question.

Thanks, SG. Some states are very open with the registration information (and actually proficient in providing it). They tend to be those states that are colored RED on the electoral maps. I wonder why that is?

FL-22 is a good example of a "contested" seat where the numbers don't add up at all. That Florida PDF shows a 20K Republican registration edge (with a very high participation rate), Shaw's plurality in '02 was 48.6K votes and in '04 it was 84.3K.

Yet FL-16 makes the "endangered" list.

What's actually endangered is Klein's net worth - he's self financed and the same Dem dolts that are plucking Unready Neddy are using him as their November goose in Florida.

SlimGuy

Fl-16 may not be as dead as you think.
Negron is of Cuban descent and 10% of the population there is hispanic

Rick Ballard

SG,

I screwed up - I meant FL-22 was on the "endangered" list. FL-16 shows a registration edge of 32K and Foley's pluralities in '02 and '04 were 129K and 114K (he ran unopposed). The '02 turnout was 39% which is high for a midterm where the incumbent is unopposed. Negron actually has an excellent chance and the NRCC hasn't given up on the district at all. The Hispanic percentage is actually 13% with blacks at 7% and homeownership at 83% - there just aren't many Section 8 barracks for a good Dem knock and drag.

Mahoney truly deserves to get his ass kicked and there is a fair chance it will happen.

SlimGuy

Rick

Other factors affecting Fl 16 are

Negron is a three term state house or senate member would have to check which

The Dem opponenet just switched from being a Rep

RIVIERA BEACH is in the district I believe and a lot of voters there are up in arms of the eminent domain issue that got national attention

ed

Hmmm.

What a mess.

1. Liberals will "take to the streets"?

I imagine quite a few conservatives waxing their axe handles and baseball bats and grinning.


2. I've long since abandoned the GOP for their feckless ways but the Democrats are still just plainly too bat-shit crazy. Some are reasonable but the leadership is just frankly too bloody stupid for their own good.


3. I'm not sure if I want the Republicans to get hammered in '06 & '08 to teach them a lesson or if I want the Democrats to get hammered in '06 & '08 so they'll wake the F**K up and jettison the fruitcake crowd.


4. I want a political party that'll actually do it's frigging job.

All things considered I suppose I might as well wish for some pretty pretty ponies, rainbow gumdrops and daisies in my hair.


5. Being a conservative in America has to be the most politically frustrating thing imaginable. You can't vote Democrat because they're just too utterly insane. Yet voting for Republicans is just a complete waste of time and often a violation of many of my basic principles.

sigh.

Rick Ballard

I want a new Rolls but I'd settle for a Bentley. In fact, if I can't have a Bentley I'll settle for a Toyota.

I won't settle for a Yugo though.

SlimGuy

Rick

I have a better choice.

I got back my confirmation of my order for this car about 90 days ago. Just waiting for delivery.

Youre gonna drool

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

Terrye

Rick:

Same here.

People, we have a two party system. That is it, there is no super duper conservative party out there waiting in the wings to do everything exactly the way you want it.

There is Hastert or Pelosi. There is Lugar or Kennedy. There is Schumer or Specter. etc.

Daddy

If I'm not much mistaken, I seem to recall that in the collapsing Eastern Roman Empire of the late 400's, the 2 political parties, Greens and Blues, wound up being simply rabid partisans of either political party simply due to if their favorite chariot racers and gladiators wore Green or Blue in the Arena. Riots, purges. etc, became rampant, all for such nonsense. I could be wrong, but I vaguely seem to remember that from Procopius's History, and if so, that was just about the time that Justinian, infatuated with Theodosia, (the chief prostitute of Constantinople), married her, seized Emperorship, and cleaned house.

Personally I'm for the Red States. Go Cardinals!

clarice

Cindy Sheehan has announced she's forming her own third party--Now that is an appealing thought!

Neo

Cindy Sheehan ... forming her own third party

I think we can all appreciate Cindy's endeavours to further marginalize herself and her cause.

I'm sure Hillary can't be happier.

PeterUK

Cindy Sheehan addresses the Party conference

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