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November 01, 2006

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Jane

I wanna see a picture!

roanoke

Jane-

Here is a picture-

Bush addresses 6,300 supporters

roanoke

Population of Perry, Georgia-

The population was 9,600 at the 2000 census.

wikipedia

Jane

Given the roar of the crowd yesterday,I doubt it was "half empty".

Deagle

Well, the Times folk are optimistic Democrats though...heh.

Jane, when you mentioned the "picture", I thought you were talking about the troops response to Kerry - priceless!

Jane

I tell ya: I will pay to have that made into a banner and draped over the MA turnpike. I just have to figure out if it requires permission to do it.

maryrose

Bush always could pack them in. LAMont on the other hand, can't pay people to come to his rallies-well he could...

Terrye

From what I hear Bush has no trouble getting an audience.

Deagle

Jane,

Can you say "Picture of the Year"... Ha... I laughed until I upset the neighbors...and I am by myself...(heh).

The Unbeliever

Allow me to take the engineer's POV: the arena was obviously the wrong size for the rally.

Walter

TM,

I don't (and probably couldn't) say it enough. Thanks for sharing your take on the news with us.

Priceless!

Dusty

Well, if it was at Reaves Arena, its capacity is "4,444 permanent; 558 box; 3,248 folding" according to the GNFA webpage:

http://www.gnfa.com/reaves.htm

I would't be surprised if that's the max for fire regs, too. If so that's 76% of capacity.

Seems to me Bush did a pretty good job of packing the place, considering the local population numbers. He certainly did better with numbers than the NYT's did in their story.

The last remark is in no way intended to imply the writers at the NYT's are not smart or intellectually lazy, but only that they are stuck in an arithmatic quagmire.

Patton

James Webb running here in Virginia vehemently condemned and opposed John Kerrys' remarks about our soldiers.

He said Kerry forgot that its not just stupid people that go in the service but it is a HORNY WOMENS DREAM!!

davod

Patton:

Do you have a transcript of Webb's comments?

davod

PS. Webb was being weasily in the interview I saw.

Pat

Views haven't changed since 1972:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html

jerry

It's not whether it was half-full or half empty, it's who owns the arena that matters.

Pat

Anathema: A thing to be detested or loathed.

In case the dummies didn't understand Kerry in 1972.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061102/D8L4QH580.html

Chants

Pithy, Tom. As usual. It's why we read your blog.

Appalled Moderate

Guys:

For comparison, here’s how the local Macon Telegraph covered the same event:

The president got a rock-star reception from the crowd at Reaves Arena, which was packed with about 6,500 people, including at least two Halloween witches. They danced to soul music before his arrival, then cheered every Republican introduced and nearly every turn of phrase in Bush's speech.

It was nearly the same message the president delivered Monday during a similar event in Statesboro and during an Oct. 10 Macon rally for Collins - right down to the jokes about U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
As with his previous visit, Bush didn't name 8th Congressional District incumbent Jim Marshall, D-Ga., in his speech. He instead focused the crowd's ire on the upper echelon of the Democratic Party's leadership.

Bush also took the opportunity to respond to remarks made Monday by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, Bush's opponent in the 2004 presidential election. Kerry told students in California that they had better get a good education because, "if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
Speaking less than 20 miles south of Robins Air Force Base, Bush said any suggestion that American troops are uneducated is "insulting" and "shameful." He said American military personnel are "plenty smart and they are plenty brave, and the senator from Massachusetts owes them an apology."

The remark brought ear-splitting cheers that typified the night.

A little bit more:

Collins said after the speech that Bush was "loaded for bear," and several attendees agreed that the president was fired up as he whipped the crowd into a frenzy. Bush called the war in Iraq the "central front" in the war on terror and said the war on terror's outcome is the "fundamental question ... this generation faces." Bush said America is committed to winning the war and that as "the enemy changes, we change."
"(The terrorists) don't understand this country," he said. "We will never run in the face of thugs and assassins."
He called upon the crowd to respond.
"When it comes to questioning terrorists, what's the Democrats' answer?" he asked.
"Just say no!" the crowd responded.
And when a Democrat asks for your vote, what's your answer? the president asked.
"Just say no," the faithful replied, the "no" nearly drowned out by cheers.

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/15897577.htm

Specter

Newflash: An important administration staffer, speaking on the condition of anonymity because she is not authorized to speak, mentioned that the dean of a prominent Journalism School had this to say to his students: "Stay in school and work hard. Keep up your grades. If you don't you get stuck at the New York Times."

Pat

JOHN KERRY: I want to make it perfectly clear, when I said;

”If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy.”””

-------------------------------------------------But there not just crazy, that got crazy from being uneducated,

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

-------------------------------------------------And while these crazy, dumb guys are in Iraq, you know what they are doing for no reason?

And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the–of–the historical customs, religious customs.

-------------------------------------------------------It might be best if we go back to a draft because…
"I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown. We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply 'doing its job.'”’
-------------------------------------------------------------Yes, I said it, war crimes, I’ve heard the stories in my brain,
“”the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam”””

None of this was directed at the troops, it was their leaders, I just couldn’t stop talking about the troops…..

Florence Schmieg

In today's NY Times we have yet another version of what Kerry "meant to say". They added another clause about intellectual curiosity before the Iraq clause and an entire sentence afterwards: "Just ask George Bush". Wow!! Kerry forgot all of that!! I await volume 2, version 20. Coming soon from a DNC arm masquerading as a newspaper of your choice.

Also, what does it gain these guys, coloring their stories with this kind of spin? I begin to think they are just playing to each other, reinforcing their prejudices.

SamuelK

Why even bother criticizing the New York Times? Their circulation and readership are both declining. Making them out to be more influential than they really are merely helps them to sell more papers and more online subscriptions. You can get better news coverage from most local papers, and the important political issues are covered in the Wall Street Journal.

Besides, a New York reporter would have no idea of what constitutes a large crowd in a smaller center in Georgia

Sara (Squiggler)

What am I missing here? Is Tom's remark supposed to be funny? I don't get the humor if it is.

SlimGuy

Sara

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061102/ts_nm/crime_arson_dc_2

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California car mechanic will be charged with setting a wildfire that killed five firefighters, destroyed 34 homes and charred an area nearly three times the size of Manhattan, authorities said on Thursday.


Raymond Lee Oyler, already in custody on suspicion of setting two brush fires earlier this year, was expected to face murder and arson charges in the so-called Esperanza Fire, which broke out last week and blackened some 63 square miles (160 sq km) before it was contained on Monday.

Sara (Squiggler)

Hi Slim, yes I posted on that earlier.

Raymond Lee Oyler, 36, is in custody and being charged with 1st degree arson and murder.

5 counts of murder with special circumstances

11 counts of arson with special circumstances

10 counts of using an incendiary device

Life in prison without parole or death are possible sentences. Feelings of family members will be considered.

SlimGuy

I just saw it breaking, didn't know you had already posted sorry , but I knew it was important.

My bad

Later poof I'm gone

Sara (Squiggler)

No problem, Slim. I always appreciate a heads up. I have been watching this story closely as it hit so close to home and has affected many people I know and love.

Brian

Hilarious. I remember after the 3rd debate in 2004 at Arizona State University each Bush and Kerry had a post-debate rally. Bush had his Bank One Ballpark (now Chase Field) and Kerry had his at Tempe Town Lake. There were well over 40,000 people at Bush's. (I know I was there). CNN and another network (I forget which) tried to pass off that Kerry had 50,000 at his rally. Everyone who has ever been there knows that 50,000 is impractical, and he could not have had more than 10,000. From what I heard, it was 5,000. I would not be surprised if I saw the headline one day, "Bush appears in New York City to over 11 million no-shows."

Scott

My wife and I attended the rally last Tuesday. It wasn't filled to capacity because about half the floor was unusable (line of sight blocked by the national media and sound enginneers), and the back sections were not used (behind the stage). Even before I told my wife about the NYT article, I asked her to estimate the crowd from 0% to 100%. She thought about it a sec, then said "Eighty percent." That's exactly what I estimated it at.

Joe

You know what they say, if Bush walked on water the headling in the "Times" would be: "Bush can't swim"

Joe

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