"This Is Making Me Nervous"

Diogenes can put down his lamp - Rahm Emmanuel, commenting on the latest polls showing a Republican resurgence, delivers one more honest comment than we expected to hear from politicos on Election Eve:

Mr. Emanuel, who has been careful this campaign to avoid the public expressions of optimism voiced by other Democrats, added, “This is making me nervous.”

Nervous?  I don't know if we can make it safely home, but we're rounding third and we are going to make Rahm show us whether he can deliver a strong throw from the outfield.

Aaah!  I'm blocking - "we're rounding third and we are going to make Rahm show us whether he can deliver a strong throw from the outfield" is clearly out-of-season.  I have to let go.

OK, Rahm Emmanuel is nervous?  He oughta be nervous - we're going to juggle a Hail Mary at the back of the end zone and try to get both feet in.  We're going to grab a fairway wood and hit for the flag.  We're putting ten men in the goal mouth.  We've got a buzzer-beater in the air!  We're pulling our goalie and rushing the net.

We're going to keep people up late on Tuesday.

Captain Ed and Noam Scheiber comment on the latest polls.  In short, they are, for Dems, either bleak or ghastly, depending on one's perspective.  And Karl won't need to worry about dispirited volunteers failing to make a strong final push.

I stand by my bland, CW prediction - Dems win the House, Reps keep the Senate.  However, based on the latest polls I will add that Ms. Pelosi will govern by a thread, and the Senate won't be suspenseful - Talent, Allen, and Burns will win their 'toss-up' races, as will Corker.  I'm saying good-bye to Chafee but have high hopes for Kean in NJ and Steele in Maryland.  Pencil me in for 53 Republican Senate seats - per the Times Election Guide, that is  47 "Safes", 2 "Leaning Rep", 3 "Toss-Ups", and 1 "Leaning Dem".

Let's keep moving and get this tedious "What Did The Election Results Mean" piece out of the way right now - I have a little free time, and who knows what Wednesday will bring?

The Dems win the House, the Reps hold the Senate - it's all good for the Republicans!  No, really.

First, control of the House means that the Dems will have a modest obligation to negotiate amongst themselves and advance legislation.  However, they have not demonstrated an ability to unite on much more than a boost in the minimum wage - I don't think they can lead themselves to a party consensus, let alone lead the rest of us to a national consensus, on the big issues of the day.  And Nancy Pelosi seems to agree - for examples, her strategy on Social security reform was "Just Say No" and her plan for Iraq was to let a thousand flowers bloom, as each member offered their own plan.  Consequently, putting the national Democrats on stage and handing them a microphone should embarrass them and help the Reps come back in 2008.

Democrats ran many moderate and conservative candidates - victory will make it difficult for them to mask their divisions with the party leadership.

Since Republicans will hold the Senate, Bush can still pick his judges (great news for Harriet Miers, good news for Reps generally).  The rest of whatever might have been presented as a Bush legislative "agenda" will stall, but given his great success with Social Security and immigration, I was not looking for much from Washington in the next few years anyway.

And keep in mind - if the Rove stuns the commentariat by holding the House, the Democratic Party will explode in recriminations.  Did the moderate Dems lose because they ran as "Republican Lite" and weren't Democratic enough?  Does the party need to lurch left? 

Or did they lose because of the spectre of Nancy Pelosi and the unreconstructed Old Guard chairman that would hold the real power in a Democratic House, and is it time to move right?  That is the sort of debate that would be healthy for the Dems and fun for the rest of us.

So, my fellow Reps, sit back and enjoy Election Night - we are keeping the Senate and the Dems are either going to win a booby prize, to wit, the obligation to stop hiding from America, or they will lose the House and tear themselves apart.  Be cool.

Comments

[Neo]

This election is shaping up to produce the weakest Speaker of the House in probably 3 or 4 decades, so I'm not sure who to cheer for.

[clarice]

Mr. 70% has spoken (wink).

[Neo]

No matter the outcome, Bush should push Social Security reform. It will lose in the short run, but 10 years from now it sure will play real well.

[Sue]

Here's hoping the "Tuna" isn't coaching, TO isn't showboating and the freaking kicker can kick a field goal. ::frown::

[jerry]

"Be cool." Tell that one to Libby Dole! Hahahaha

[Semanticleo]

:We're going to grab a fairway wood and hit for the flag."

Or, we're going to Diebold the electoral process, or SCOTUS the Nation once more or........HT Kevein Drum;

DIRTY TRICKS....The latest campaign trick from the fine folks in the Republican Party is to make repeated robo-calls to voters that sound as if they're from Democratic candidates. Do it often enough and voters will be so pissed off at their local Democrat that they'll just stay home instead of bothering to vote. Clever, eh?

TPM is all over this if you want the details, but here's the gist from a House race in New Hampshire:

Incumbent Republican Congressman Charlie Bass denounced the calls yesterday and said he tried to get the NRCC to put a stop to them. But a spokesman for the NRCC said the automated phone calls would continue indefinitely.

"The calls will continue as planned," said Alex Burgos, a spokesman for the NRCC, the national group charged with electing Republicans to the House. "They are done independently of Charlie Bass's campaign. He has nothing to do with them."

Ignore the question of whether Bass is denouncing the tactic or merely "denouncing" the tactic. Instead just think about what's going on here. In every election, there have always been individual wingnuts who go over the edge with desperate campaign tactics. It happens on both sides. This time, though, the desperate tactics are coming straight from the Republican central committee. What's more, there's not even a hint of embarrassment. In fact, they sound pretty proud of themselves.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I think Lee Atwater called it RatF---ing.
Nobel cause, yours.

[clarice]

Schumer (per FNC) has admitted that the Dems will not win the Senate.

[Greg D]

R's take the House, winning both Foley's and Delay's districts ("Punch Foley for Joe!"), and picking up at least one of the GA Democrat House seats.

One of the big pieces of news is that Ohio is counting the absentee ballots right now, and will release those resultsTuseday after the polls close.

Which means we'll get some immediate feedback on how the various GOTV operations have done in that state.

Someone needs to get people predicting, now, what various results will mean (i.e. R's need 55% to win, D's need 55% to win, whatever).

[clarice]

Will they blame Diebold or Kerry?

[Jacko]

Never have we seen the MSM so clearly take off their mask. Every day they are now openly campaigning, spinning and writing new stories for the Left. If the Dems don't take the House, look for an even more accelerated, hysterical move to the Left by the MSM as they hasten their MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction).

THAT will be the fun of the next few years. Pelosi will get screechingly boring.

[Neo]

Nancy Pelosi's strategy on Social Security reform of "Just Say No" plays perfectly into a legacy building Social Security reform campaign by Bush in his last two years.

No matter what happens in the next two years, come ten years from now, when the Social Security taxes are less than outlays and the shortcomings will have to be made up "on-budget", Bush will look like a ...king genius, a President ahead of his time.

The Republicans will have a long (but unimportantly failed) record of trying to do something ahead of time, while we will see countless reruns of the Democrats jumping to their feet to applaud when Bush, in the last SOTU, said Social Security reform had not succeeded.

[Jane]

As of yesterday, Chafee was winning, so I wouldn't write off RI. I want Steele to win, maybe more than anyone. I'm impressed by him. I'm not sure Allen will pull it off. I also am really hoping people punch Joe for Foley. Time to hand the HRC a dose of their own medicine.

[Neo]

Why has nobody mentioned the "Jefford's factor" ?

With the Democrats running so many DINOs, there should be a few House members' loyalty up for auction, in return for a plum committe membership or two.

[granny]

A reminder to all those who want to "teach the Republicans a lesson" by electing Democrats -- the last time you did that it took us 40 years to get back in. That's F.O.R.T.Y. Four decades!

[SamuelK]

The poll results depend on who answers the telephone as well as who gives an honest answer - there are so many push polls that many likely voters are just hanging up. Then there are the somewhat subjective weightings that the polling outfits assign - based on the pollsters' models of party preference and likelihood of voting.

It is difficult to tell which pollsters are trying to be the most accurate, and which ones are trying to influence the election. In the latter category, some media have been known in the past to bury polls - on the eve of elections - that ran counter to their editorial position.

CNN has a poll today still favoring the Democrats, but today's Fox News poll also shows Dem leads holding. CNN's poll supports their increasingly anti-Republican slant, but Fox has published a poll that is contrary to the "election shifting to Republicans" trend being touted by their on-line personalities.

Are voters inclined to follow a trend, or instead to make an extra effort to vote if their party/candidate seems to be running behind?

[windansea]

Mr. 70% has spoken (wink).

as I said in another thread...

If TM is wrong again he can go for the trifecta with a Libby prediction

[vnjagvet]

As of 3:15PM EST, Major Garrett at Fox News says that the "most optimistic" GOP insiders say net loss of 12 in House, and most say net loss of 20 for GOP. Dem insiders say 20 to 40 gain for them. Major's take is GOP loses House.

I go with Rick Ballard at YARGB myself, who is more optimistic than Major's insider. Rick has a pretty sophisticated analysis which, IMHO rivals the best on camera analyst Michael Barone in its depth.

[Pofarmer]

Never have we seen the MSM so clearly take off their mask.

Yep. Just heard a news report a while ago about the verdict in the Saddam trial. The newsmonkey was sure to mention the Sunni's protesting and how "directionless" they felt, whatever that means. No mention of the thousands celebrating in the streets. Hmmmm.

[windansea]

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I'd prefer a Cohiba

[clarice]

I agree vnjagvet. I think if you read Barone carefully, he is not yet willing to be optimistic as everything is so fluid..but if he weren'e on camera and were a friend, my guess is he's closer to Rick's take on it..in fact, I heard him say much the same thing the other night before these polls came out.

Turn out is everything..

It's also why I agree with Jane on Kerry's affect--it was stronger than the polls reflect.

[clarice]

I agree vnjagvet. I think if you read Barone carefully, he is not yet willing to be optimistic as everything is so fluid..but if he weren'e on camera and were a friend, my guess is he's closer to Rick's take on it..in fact, I heard him say much the same thing the other night before these polls came out.

Turn out is everything..

It's also why I agree with Jane on Kerry's affect--it was stronger than the polls reflect.

[Jane]

Tee Hee, I got agreed with TWICE!

[clarice]

"Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois today urged hundreds of blacks not to vote along racial lines next week in Maryland's Senate race. Obama, the only black U.S. senator, came to the state to rally support for Democratic Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin, who is white. Cardin's Republican opponent, Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele, is the first black candidate ever elected statewide and has been courting black Democrats."--Associated Press, Nov. 3

"The nation's only black senator, Barack Obama, D-Ill., asked voters at two black churches and at a Nashville rally to elect [Harold] Ford, a Democrat who is trying to become the first black senator from the South in more than 100 years. 'I know that all of you are going to work the next couple of days to make sure it happens, because I'm feeling lonely in Washington,' Obama said at the Mt. Zion Baptist Church. 'I need my dear friend to join me.' "--Associated Press, Nov. 5

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009206

Jane--one post for each Obama.

[topsecretk9]

Don't forget Nancy Pelosi went missing after the 60 minutes interview!

Democrats have not advanced one iota of a platform other than to oppose Bush...and the undecided or people just tuning learned Nancy-- in an effort to tamp down impeachment rumors --basically telegraphed that Democrats have no other agenda but to stall government and do nothing.

Hearing -- making him a lame-duck is good enough for me - translates to

DOING NOTHING FOR AMERICANS is good enough for me!

Also, she fumbled the gay marriage question in that interview...Gay marraige is not an issue were fighting right now.

[T Miller]

It seems ironic to state that Pelosi has disappeared when the leading House Republican, Hastert is even less visible.

[clarice]

She quite obviously was away getting a face lift.

[Don]

No that would be Cheney's latest hunting partner.

[maryrose]

Newest waffle by dem Senate candidate Casey- Now he is for PRIVACY RIGHTS!. That switch didn't take long. On all other issues of interest-he is an empty suit with a name. What a shame!

[danking70]

"Will they blame Diebold or Kerry?"

Kerry. A ritual sacrifice will follow on Wednesday.

[robocalls]

robocalls robocalls robocalls

very troubling...

[clarice]

How you can tell Steele is winning:

"Ehrlich to push for an extension of the deadline for voters to postmark absentee ballots. In a letter to Ehrlich dated Sunday, the group asked the governor to instruct his appointees on the Maryland Board of Elections to allow ballots postmarked on election day to be counted. The current deadline is today. The letter cites shortages in absentee ballots because of the high number of requests this year. The letter comes on the heels of a similar request by a coalition of attorneys' groups and civil rights organizations.... "

http://wjz.com/topstories/local_story_310102437.html

[topsecretk9]

- I want Steele to win, maybe more than anyone. I'm impressed by him. --

Jane...I swear this race reminds me of CA Recall - Davis vs. Schwarzenegger

Right up to election day there were polls saying both Davis and Bustemante were way up on Arnold...yet there was a huge grassrooty undercurrent the media just couldn't (or didn't want to) tap.

[Bob]

Good Read!

http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6535>A premature election orgasm

"For fifty years or so, poll takers could find enough people in the the target groups to make reasonably good prediction.

What has changed today is a massive revulsion among conservatives and Republicans against the media and their handmaidens, the pollsters. The polls now have to guess at (a) and (b) among the conservatives. You can’t check on your sample if your target group won’t answer. Twenty years ago Black opinion would be consistently off, because Blacks were suspicious of White pollsters. Conservatives are the Blacks of today, as far as alienation from the media is concerned."

[jwest]

I know you will think this is too optimistic, but here is the final total:

House - GOP down 4

Senate - GOP up 2

Mark this down so you can tell your grandkids you were there when the prediction was made.

[maryrose]

jwest:
I like how you think. I also don't think the clueless dems realize how devastating Kerry was for them. The dems don't realize that the majority of Americans want us to win in Iraq and know that the dems are NOT committed to making that happen. I also think Steele will win and I love how Obama is forced to talk out of both sides of his mouth. Too bad he doesn't have the courage of the 5 African-American leaders in Maryland backing Steele.

[anonymous]

I'd prefer a Cohiba

Posted by: windansea | November 06, 2006 at 12:19 PM

Are those legal?

[anonymous]

She quite obviously was away getting a face lift.

Posted by: clarice | November 06, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Would you like a saucer of milk now, kitty?

[clarice]

Check out Nancy's new face lift:

http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/2006/11/ah_most_of_nanc.html

[Specter]

Gotta love Tic comments about Repubs trying to cheat. Tic - you ever hear of ACORN? 35,000 bogus ballots submitted through them, openly campaigning for Mccaskill, and they are now being investigated in numerous states. More than conspiracy theory...unlike your crazy assertions.

But I'll let you in on a secret Tic - we knew what you were gonna say. We've been tapping your phone lines and internet connection for years...and now we've got bugs planted. Probably gonna declare you an "enemy combatant" soon....you know what that means - gitmo and waterboards. Get packed....

[maryrose]

a face lift for Nancy will hopefully rid of that ferret face fox like look.-Meow!

[PeterUK]

"I'd prefer a Cohiba

Posted by: windansea | November 06, 2006 at 12:19 PM

Are those legal?"

Are you cabananonymous?

[maryrose]

Tic:
get all your dem lawyers ready for the inevitable recounts where you try to impose your will on the people who vote. Get all those extra ballots out of storage just in case you need them.And for God's sake let the FELONS vote!

[anonymous]

Well, if a "Cohiba" is a Cuban cigar, I will have to ask: why would anyone hate America so much that he could even imagine smoking one?

[anonymous]

And for God's sake let the FELONS vote!

Posted by: maryrose | November 06, 2006 at 01:37 PM

Yes, it would be a crime indeed if Randy Cunningham and Bob Ney and Jack Abramoff are disenfranchised.

[Specter]

Of course TIC is probably against letting the troops vote by absentee ballot....

[anonymous]

Of course TIC is probably against letting the troops vote by absentee ballot....

Posted by: Specter | November 06, 2006 at 01:40 PM

But Sean Hannity says that some people are just too dumb or uninformed to vote.

[anonymous]

Uninformed and uniformed ... only a consonant's difference ...
Coincidence?

[anonymous]

November 6th, 2006 I guess this means no “George W. Bush Square” in Baghdad, after all

Neocon warmonger and Iraq War booster Richard Perle turns on Bush, like a starving cur:

Richard Perle, who was chairman of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee until 2004, told Vanity Fair magazine associate editor David Rose that the team that executed the war was dangerously out of control.

“The decisions did not get made that should have been,” Perle said, according to a report on Vanity Fair’s Web site. “They didn’t get made in a timely fashion, and the differences were argued out endlessly. At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible.”

Quite a change from September, 2003:

“A year from now, I’ll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush.”

Last year witnessed Perle’s continued delusion:

“I will be surprised, yet again, if we do not see a square in Baghdad named after this president.”

I suppose this means Perle has finally changed his mind about that “grand square” in Baghdad, after all.

Well, as they say, failure is an orphan.

Posted by Alex at 11:40 am | Martini Republic

[clarice]

He's talking about Armitage and OPowell, not Bush.

[anonymous]

Sure he is. The President of the United States obviously had nothing to do with the invasion & occupation of Iraq. He was probably clearing brush when the decision was made.

[Neo]

CNN has a poll today still favoring the Democrats

Any wonder why Gallup dropped CNN ?

[Jane]

Fox news poll shows dems coming back

Don't shoot the messenger.

[anonymous]

"At the end of the day, you have to hold the president responsible.”

-- Richard Perle

Reading before commenting -- always a good idea.

[windansea]

Well, if a "Cohiba" is a Cuban cigar, I will have to ask: why would anyone hate America so much that he could even imagine smoking one?

I live in Mexico doofus...pay attention

[anonymous]

There is no way I could know or care where you live, moron.

[anonymous]

And why do you hate America, Senor?

[Terrye]

anonymous:

Considering the number of the Democrats who have ended up in the slammer over the years should you really be making an issue of this?

One thing I do find interesting. When Republicans do something they should not they are out the door, but Democrats like Jefferson???Hell no, they have to be dragged kicking and screaming from office and no one in leadership seems to have a problem with the fact that they are criminals.

If you want to see crooket politics, look at the Louisiana Democrats. The only people that can hold a candle to them are the NJ Democrats. Now it seems that the old political machine in Kansas City that landed Pentergast in prison years ago is making a comeback. Fine tradition.

[topsecretk9]

Voter Fraud and robocalls...

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/bf8a1ec3-bc72-4b65-8bae-2ad9680287cb

Katherine gently reminds the cottage industry of phony outrage:

"If it's a dirty trick, I'd imagine it's an ineffective one."

since it's evident like 2 seconds in, the call is from Repubs, so a repeated call by a robo republican will tend to make the receiver annoyed at the republicans.

Also she has a pretty detailed list of GOP voter supression events - indictments - that have taken place.

[anonymous]

Thank you, Terrye. You really are getting very good at word-for-word repetition of RNC Talking Points.

[Neo]

Tim Russert: You think we’ll be out of Iraq by the end of 2006?

Murtha: I think we’ll be out of there; if not completely out of there, we’ll be very close to being out of there. I think we could be out -- yeah, I predict we’ll be out of there – it’ll be 2006.

Russert: By Election Day 2006?

Murtha: You have hit it on the head.

It sure looks like Congressman John Murtha predicted wrong.

[danking70]

Where are they now?

Reps:

Ney
Cunningham
Foley
Delay

Dems:

Menendez
Jefferson
Molohan
Reid

[Neo]

So what are the odds that "Ric Brown", an associate of ACORN, just happened upon 5 guys with the name "Patrick Vandewater" ?

[Neo]

An where is Bob Torricelli ?

[Neo]

Or did "Ric Brown" find 3 guys named "Patrick Vandewater" and manage to voter register two of them twice within two weeks ?

It used to be said "vote early and often". Now it appears that the watch words are "Register to voter early and often".

[cathyf]

If you want to see crooket politics, look at the Louisiana Democrats. The only people that can hold a candle to them are the NJ Democrats. Now it seems that the old political machine in Kansas City that landed Pentergast in prison years ago is making a comeback. Fine tradition.

Hey, wait a minute -- what about Chicago? Where the Outfit has their own alderman... Where children think maredaley is one word... Where election judges drive around with ballot boxes in trunks of cars until they know how many votes need stealing... Where people are so devoted to the processes of democracy that a precinct will show hundreds of votes for obscure judicial retention punches, but only 12 (straight democrat) votes for president or governor...

(My 8th grade teacher was a democratic ward committeewoman and the sister of a 1-term Chicago mayor. She taught us all about various methods of vote fraud.)

[PeterUK]

"Uninformed and uniformed ... only a consonant's difference ...
Coincidence?"

Cabananonymous has had his John Kerry meatball moment,dissing his betters.

Martini Republic,isn't that where the "snobby metropolitan" Maillander used to troll from?

[anonymous]

"... dissing ... "

Pete, .. dude ... the kids don't say that any more. It doesn't really make you look like you're 'down.'

[Terrye]

anonymous;

Considering the fact that I have never heard you say one original thing that is really kind of funny.

BTW, I was a Democrat, now I am an Independent. I am not a Republican.

[anonymous]

Another 'Republican-pretending-to-be-an-Independent' ... you've really got the whole act going, Terrye.

[Terrye]

cathyf:

YOu are right, how could I forget? The Daley machine has to be the most long lived and successful political machine in American political history.

[PeterUK]

WGAF Cabananonymous? You some kind of trendy rent boy?

It will be noticed that you let your insult to America's Military stand

[Jeff B.]

My useless unoffical predictions:

Democrats take the house. Weldon, Heather Wilson, Chris Shays, Nancy Johnson, and Chris Chocola all lose.

In the Senate, Republicans hold MT, TN & MO. NJ stays democratic, and RI goes the way of the Donk. First big surprise comes when Webb beats Allen in the VA Senate race for a richly-deserved upset.

The other big surprise of the night is across the Potomac, where Steele manages to pull off the unthinkable and edge out Cardin for a victory in the MD Senate. In any other cycle he'd be ahead by a good margin, that's how good a candidate he is (and how savvy a campaign he's run). Based on my own informal anecdotal evidence, all the excitement on the ground, even in Montgomery County (the most liberal county in the state, easily), is for Steele.

Ehrlich, on the other hand, loses a close race to O'Malley.

[anonymous]

"It will be noticed ... " by whom?

Are you going to put it on my 'permanent record,' Headmaster?

But why don't you read the humorously-intended question I asked in the context of the remark I was responding to and the so-called Kerry Kerfuffle ... ? Of course, you'd have to have some semblance of a sense of humor.

One more thing: in a Republic, the civilian citizen is equal to the citizen who has volunteered or been drafted for military service. Of course, that equality does not exist in the militarized/Corporatist order you dream of.

[Neo]

Wow !

I finally got my opportunity to hang up on a poll for a major televison network.

Damn that felt good.

[anonymous]

Thank you for your service to the Party.

[anonymous]

"Republicans and the right in general have had more surprises come from within over the last few weeks (Foley, Haggard, nuke secrets posted to the internet, and on and on) that they've made the populace numb to anything that might even be spun as good news for them.

They've fucked the goat. And once you know someone's fucked a goat, you can never look at that person the same way."

Note: Goat-fucking reference comes from this old joke: A man is sitting at a bar, drinking, and he says to no one in particular, "A man can spend his life building bridges. Do they call him John the Bridge Builder? No. A man can spend his life raising crops. Do they call him John the Farmer? No. But you fuck one goat..."

// posted by Rude One @ 8:23 AM|

[anonymous]

11/5/2006

In Brief: Saddam To Hang, America To Yawn:

As November Surprises go, the conviction and sentencing of Saddam Hussein on crimes against humanity is about as surprising as, say, discovering that fucking a corpse ain't all that it's cracked up to be. You might get your rocks off, but, in the end, you're just poking dead ass. (Isn't there some Iraqi proverb about poking a dead ass?)

Sure, the timing is beyond suspicious, now, less than three days before the beginning of the post-election lawsuits. You know, c'mon, how do we get from spider hole to noose at this most politically expedient moment without some Rovean goosing? But is there a single person in this country whose reaction doesn't fall into the range between a bemused "Yeah, didn't see that coming" to a confused "He's still alive?" It's too late for this to have any impact, a waste of a perfectly good promise of execution.

// posted by Rude One @ 8:23 AM

[Pofarmer]

Damn that felt good

Yes it does. And I have to think that's why Repub's are consistently underpolled.

[PeterUK]

Ah,cabananonymous,that hit home eh? The same meatball excuse,"it was a joke",your subconscious thought come slobbering out and "it was a joke"!

Nothing to do with equality meatball,and everything to do with common decency,good men and women are fighting and dying,all you can do is make insulting remarks about their intelligence.It does not matter that you are opposed to the campaign in Iraq,it does matter that you impugn volunteers of your citizen army in a vain effort to make yourself appear amusing.

[Pofarmer]

"Republicans and the right in general have had more surprises come from within over the last few weeks (Foley, Haggard, nuke secrets posted to the internet, and on and on)

Here's a clue.

The base don't care.

Most of the American public don't care.

Compared to what went on with Clintoon, on purpose. This is childs play.

[anonymous]

"... hit home ... " ? Don't flatter yourself.

Although it has become increasingly apparent to me that you are a case of perfectly useful genetic material gone terribly wrong, I will take the time to explain your mistake to you.

"Good men and women" are being forced to do an illegal and immoral thing in Iraq. Would you have counseled your fellow citizens in Germany in the '40s to "support the troops?"

Wake up.

[anonymous]

The base don't care.

Most of the American public don't care.

Posted by: Pofarmer | November 06, 2006 at 03:24 PM

No. You don't care. And you are incapable of imagining that anyone could possibly have a different view from yours, since you see yourself as the 'real American,' 'the true American.'

By the way, "the base" (of the Republican party) is a small minority of the "American public," and their days of illegitimate power and influence will end.

And for sweet Jeeeeezus's sake at least, get a new straw-man: Clinton's been out of office for 6 years. That devalued buck has stopped on Mr. Bush's desk.

[PeterUK]

"Good men and women" are being forced to do an illegal and immoral thing in Iraq. Would you have counseled your fellow citizens in Germany in the '40s to "support the troops?"

So your only conclusion is to insult them? What an odd little creature you are.

[anonymous]

No, Pete, my conclusion of the moment is to insult you. Unfortunately, you're too damned dumb to understand.

[topsecretk9]

--Compared to what went on with Clintoon, on purpose. This is childs play.--

Seriously...even "McCaskill Doesn't Want Former President Near Daughter"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0EBi1W4jL0&eurl=

[PeterUK]

"Uninformed and uniformed ... only a consonant's difference ...
Coincidence?

Posted by: anonymous | November 06, 2006 at 01:45 PM

Strange,my name does not appear in your original appalling insult to the military,can it be thst your mind is going again? It would seem that Mr Libby's memory expert is correct,even the concept of scrolling has slipped away in the miasma of your mind.

[Pofarmer]

By the way, "the base" (of the Republican party) is a small minority of the "American public," and their days of illegitimate power and influence will end.

Come day after tommorrow I suppose we'll know.

There's an odd thing going on out here. Folks are talking politics. I don't ever remember that happening before. Conservatives are more willing to make their voices heard. It's always been more live and let live. Well, no longer.

[anonymous]

And there it is, Pete, an illustration of your problem. I didn't say I was responding to one of your mean-spirited and inane comments; and that's why your august name does not appear in my off-hand remark. But who cares? As I said, you're a small, petty man, and you demonstrate why Tim Leary had a good point when he proposed that no one over 30 should be allowed to vote.

Now, explain to me why, as 'a good German.' you would have supported the SS ... misguided patriotism, perhaps?

[roanoke]

PeterUK-

I've seen this happen so many times on other boards-funny how Republican leaning ones are always more tolerant-but this "anonymous" is one of the more psychotic ones.

What they usually do is try to turn the thread into some reverse group therapy for themsleves.

The "guy" -sorry but they are more prominently male gets off on having control of the thread because he has no control over something in his life.

Troll-go look up external vs internal locus of control-then stop blaming your Mother.

It's that simple.

[roanoke]

anonymous-

Explain to me why you feel life is spinning out of control?

[anonymous]

Conservatives are more willing to make their voices heard. It's always been more live and let live. Well, no longer.

Posted by: Pofarmer | November 06, 2006 at 03:50 PM

You're kidding, right? Conservatives have been blathering incessantly for the past decade. And "live and let live" is laughable as a motto for the Republican Party.

[vnjagvet]

The Fox allstars are pessimistic. Even Barnes thinks GOP loses the House by five.

Kristol says Dems take House and Senate.

We'll see.

Anymouse must be feeling real good now.

Terrye:

How does Indiana look.

I think we pick up at least one GOP seat in GA which is incumbent Dem now and is carried "leans Dem" nearly everywhere.

If there are five of those hiding somewhere in the 49 states..........

[Florence Schmieg]

Goodness, I think I will vomit. Watching Brit Hume. Bill Crystal, whom I have always disliked and have thought of as an arrogant prick, is so negative about Republcans that the left should embrace him, neocon or not. He is one of the main instigators responsible for the dispiritedness of conservatives this year. I am sure that he is one of those, along with David Gergen, who is the anonymous "Republican source close to the White House" who is constantly quoted by the MSM with gloomy, critical statements about the White House. May he go into oblivion soon. I, for one, will use my immense bully pulpit to get the Hannity types, etc., to cut this guy loose no matter what the outcome tomorrow.

[anonymous]

Listen, roanoke (if that's your real name) I didn't ask your sociopathic brothers and sisters to attack me ...

If they choose to make your precious 'thread' about me, that's none of my doing. Besides, aren't you tired of spending your life repeating variations of 'Republicans good, Democrats bad?'

But, never mind, I'll make it easy for you ....

[SunnyDay]

Sure makes the threads shorter if I don't read the ninnymouse posts. Too bad we don't have an ignore function here.

[PeterUK]

Roanoke,
It the case of cabananonymous,it is simply "penis envy".

[roanoke]

Sunnyday-

Ya or a barter system.

A thousand "anonymous" types for one good PeterUK.

[SunnyDay]

Yes, but who would make that deal?

[roanoke]

It the case of cabananonymous,it is simply "penis envy".

LOL-I think he's just jealous of our superior weapon systems.

Right now his brain needs a swirly-maybe we can arrange that while he's tossing his cookies and praying to the porcelain god.

{Off course he's a Liberal so hus cookie of choice would be Oreos..}

[Davis]

Republican voters who are upset with one thing or another in Washington are realizing that there is no alternative, and will vote tomorrow for their Party. The "undecideds" have been mostly wavering Republicans. Whatever their issues, they don't want to abandon Iraq to the trerrorists and turn the House over to Ms. Pelosi and her free-spending left-wing party.