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January 23, 2007

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topsecretk9

But there may be a method to his madness - between this and (mainly) the State of the Union, the news that NBC reporter David Gregory sat on a leak from Ari Fleischer may be swept under the rug.

Ugh. This is not good for NBC. It does make you wonder about what they have to hide/protect and the lengths the pillars o truth will go to bend it at will.

It's interesting how bloggers sitting next to him are able to call BS in real-time.

All in all, the trial has been stupendous for bloggers. Love it.

richard mcenroe

You don't wipe out notes. You stuff them down your pants and sneak away with them. Have we learned nothing from the Democrats?

MayBee

Heh.

FDL posters and commenters wanted to make sure Para told Shuster that he was the most reliable source on the Libby trial. My guess is that went to his head, and he decided fabulist works for him.

Javani

I think the "wiped out" storyline was effective--if a reporter was misled, wouldn't a juror? Might come back to haunt him, Geragos-style, if he doesn't show anything "wiped out"

""(conversations in which Cheney told Libby precisely how to run the counteroffensive against Joseph Wilson)""

Only in the blogosphere can so many hold that notion. 12 average jurors are not going to see Cheney's response to a leaking critic calling him a liar or a hider as inappropriate.

Predicted testimony. "Wells: Did you respond to critic Mr. X? No. How about Ms. Y? No. Why you respond against Wilson? He said I sent him to Niger and I was hiding information."

kate

Now let's not be too hard on little David Shuster. Remember that for many months, his contribution to the Plame reporting consisted of functioning as a stenographer for Joe Wilson's friends including Larry.

Now he has to do some, er, original reporting and he's having a little trouble.

jerry

I wonder who will be the star reporter for this trial, one or two months down the road?

I treat the bloggers (EW, TM, et al...) as equals to the people on cable and in the papers when I go to learn about this case.

I'm hoping to see people like EW and TM on some cable shows, providing expert commentary and debate (that would be a great event).

My money would be on EW, call it my lefty bias, I'm looking forward to some great insights/deconstructions of the defense.

But we need scoops also, who will get the big scoop? Who's got the connections on the ground in DC? Maybe TM and Clarice will come through here (tell me about Bush and Rove pleease)? Here's hoping.

Rick Ballard

There's an easy explanation. We say:

"He's a fabulist."

He hears: "He's fabulous." and keeps typing up last night's dreams.

Javani

"Maybe TM and Clarice will come through here (tell me about Bush and Rove pleease)?"

Rove had spoke to Novak about the wife, Libby had not. The Rove matter, my guess, explains the "memo" from Cheney. Did Rove try to deflect blame, or maybe more likely Libby feared so?

The only cable shows that will be worthwhile are those peppered with guest lawyers, real trial attorneys. All the media types will not report fairly the blemishes to their brethren in the profession. CourtTV might be good too.

Miller's statement about a "trick" will be played up no doubt as a standard journo trick. It will be a critical part of the trial, but little mentioned.

I say everyone should join hands and agree Bob Novak ruined the chummy world of sharing "background" secrets.

Necessary reading for any lurking attorneys is the "Sen Intel Report" parts about Wilson. Hyperlink on the right of this page.

Patton

To be fair to Shooster, his original report most likely explained 'wiped out' by menaing Libby had set off a small nuclear explosion in DC and its magnetic pulse had wiped out the note on all computers within 20 miles.

Shooster was probably reign in by Chris Mathews who said it was probably just a dirty bomb and not an actual nuke, while Olbermann kept harping 'the Jew did it, the Jew did it', and 'Heil Hitler, Heil Hitler' from the background.

jerry

Patton, you wild man, what are you saying about Herr Obermann?

I sort of agree with you Javani, it was a step too far. There's a level of trust and moderation in these subjects that is good and necessary for the government and journalism to function best.

topsecretk9

Wilson claims he knows the exact contents on Condi's personal file.

Hope Well's asks Grossman if he shared this info with Wilson or if he knows who did.

Because Wilson's claims are so true and all.

jerry

Umm, please excuse my momentary sillyness... Condi's personal file has contents? (hehe, I am a joker.) I thought contents were inconsistant with repetitively lying to Congress.

Where'd you get this info anyway topsecretk9?

"Hope Well's asks Grossman if he shared this info with Wilson or if he knows who did."

topsecretk9, you'd win my reporter award if there's a story here.

cathyf
...he shredded notes from his conversations with Cheney (conversations in which Cheney told Libby precisely how to run the counteroffensive against Joseph Wilson)
According to last spring's filings, Libby had a list of Niger/yellowcake talking points.

1) He turned it over to the FBI pretty much first thing, and it will be admitted as evidence at the trial.

2) It contained no reference whatsoever to Wilson's wife.

MayBee

Grossman said today:Wilson said that he thought the trip had been at the request of the OVP.

I would love to hear again about how Wilson didn't claim it was at the behest of the VP.

cathyf

While I usually can figure out if something is a typo, and figure out what it means, this one has me stumped, TSK9. Does Joe Wilson claim to have a copy of Dr. Rice's personnel file or her personal files?

Chants

Has anyone seen a misstatement of fact spread so quickly through the sinosphere?

topsecretk9

Grossman said today:Wilson said that he thought the trip had been at the request of the OVP.

I would love to hear again about how Wilson didn't claim it was at the behest of the VP.

Behest. Behest. Behest, He NEVER said Behest! HAH!

Yes Maybee...and I answred your question about Wilson and Condi's personal file here

Seeing as she was the National Security Advisor, the person whose job it is to keep track of the nuclear threats against the United States, for her not to know about these reports that were sitting in her very own office files says to me that she is either A) incompetent, B) disingenous, or C) and this is the most likely in my opinion....simply a bald faced liar.

Is Wilson claiming in 2006 ***HIS*** report was in Condi's file?

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/01/the_libby_trial.html#comment-28152592

Tom Maguire

My money would be on EW, call it my lefty bias

That is your lefty bias. She will be trying too hard to justify her theories to follow the actual story (that might be my downfall, too). I actually think our old Jeff, now at TAP, is least wedded to any particular viewpoint, which may make him best able to see what is actually happening in front of him.

Grossman said today:Wilson said that he thought the trip had been at the request of the OVP.

I would love to hear again about how Wilson didn't claim it was at the behest of the VP.

What a clown show, with Wilson claiming he never told anyone that and the old Kristof columns just sitting there in cold ink.

Tim

Shuster: Well, Karl Rove's legal team has told me that they expect that a decision will come sometime in the next two weeks. And I am convinced that Karl Rove will, in fact, be indicted. [my emphasis]

windansea

I actually think our old Jeff, now at TAP, is least wedded to any particular viewpoint

oh please...Jeff thinks Joe is a noble whistle blower who never lied

boris

Jeff just keeps his grand unified theory pretty close to the vest but the following points have emerged in his postings here ...

  • Joe is a noble whistle blower who never lied;
  • Joe never actually claimed he was behested by Cheney;
  • Valerie had nothing to do with the mission;
  • Valerie had nothing to do with reporters;
  • Valerie is a saintly goddess;
  • (Jeff has a serious crush on Valerie)
  • Cheney and Libby conspired to destroy Valerie;
  • Cheney and Libby deserve to rot in hell for what they did to Valerie;
sbw

What is TAP?

Rick Ballard

SBW,

I believe that's 'The American Prospect'. If you wear a red carnation boutinniere on May Day and longed to watch those big military parades in Red Square, you'll love it.

It's on Tom blog roll on the left (down a bit but not nearly far enough). He calls it TAPPED.

Patrick R. Sullivan

boris, you forgot that Jeff also thinks that when Kristoff called Wilson to verify that Pincus wasn't correct (in his June 12th, 2003 piece) that Cheney knew nothing about Wilson's trip, Wilson merely 'expressed skepticism'. Rather than lied outright.

boris

OT Clarice, early today the venison tenderloins were sliced into medallions, coated with savory seasoning then marinated in zinfandel and hickory bbq.

This evening just before grilling they were skewered alternating with red onion and baby bellas. Grilled over real charcoal and hickory chips then served with long grain & wild rice and brussel sprouts.

clarice

MMMMMMMMM I love venison--especially venison tederloins-- and that sounds great.

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Here in Alaska, Momma whipped up a big plate of meatloaf, and our little girls slathered it in enough Ketchup to take a bath in. Yum!

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