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January 03, 2007

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Bob

"...but my guess is that she is the next President and will chase him out of the race."

I can't disagree more. I think the fact that she's been already anointed the "one", will make her fade over the next year.

mark c.

I don't buy the drug use as a palliative for the torment of being half black and living in Hawaii with his well-to-do parents.Getting high with his buddies just because he could,i'll buy and forgive.

Jane

Given the family political acumen, as well as the willingness to cheat, I don't think Hillary will fade. I just pray (loudly and often) that the first Madame President is not a graduate of Wellesley.

clarice

Who cares? I'm 65 I still count my many failings as "youthful indiscretions".

ed

Hmmmm.

Funny isn't it how the MSM went crazy over Bush's DUI that happened 30 years ago but yawns at Obama's revelation of alcohol and drug use.

Sue

Can't we find one person suitable to run against Hillary that hasn't done drugs, for cryin' out loud? She'll annihilate him.

happyfeet

It's so refreshing.

PeterUK

I'm perturbed that he can remember using them.
Hillary has the charisma of an egg sandwich.

Davebo

Look folks. Do you really want someone leading the country who went to college in the early 80's and never smoked pot or tried coke?

Because if so, I'd suggest you're too young to remember the early 80's.

PeterUK

It's your country,but personally I'd rather have someone who had grown out of it by the 80s.

hit and run

The pot was just as good in the late 80s.

Er, uh or so I've been told.

Daddy

TM,

Re Bloomberg

Though I am not enthusiastic about any of those other candidates you mentioned, I can at least see that they are big enough entities where somebody can have an opinion about them. Perhaps it is due to my geographical isolation here in Alaska, but in the case of Bloomberg, he is so far off my radar screen that I can't even come up with a single adjective to describe the guy.
When you mention him I wind up imagining Henny Youngman under a spotlight doing one of his patented terrible jokes in some dimly lit smoky nightclub, delivering the punchline "Bloomberg", and being greeted by dead silence, afterwhich the drummer does that quick riff (Ka-bang) highlighting how bad the joke was, and then Henny rapping on the microphone with his knuckle, "Hello..., Hello,...Hey, is this thing on?".

abe shorey

A Bloomberg run can't be counted out, he'd be self funding. But who votes for him? Bush pissed away libertarian support, a viable independent would count on picking it up. Bloomberg cannot. Who does he draw from the Republican tent? Pro choice, anti gun, busy body nurse mom voters? Who does he draw from dems? Are there that many Blue Hillary haters? Those who love condescending pricks? He is weak under pressure, witness the recent kowtow to respective racebaiter and hater, Sharpton and Baron. He's a good Mayor; a national candidacy would be a joke of wondrous proportion. Please, please bring it on. Both parties are so sad and weak. His bellylaugh campaign would bring smiles all around.

BumperStickerist

per Oliver Willis with this disclosure the 'swiftboating' of Barak Obama has begun.

From Oliver's fingertips to FDL, Glenn Greenwald, and dKos's blogs.

Thankfully, Tom will get to keep those finely honed 'Swiftboat' reflexes of his sharp for another two years.

maryrose

Is there any evidence that mom Hillary ever smoked marijuana or snorted cocaine? If there was any inkling of that the msm would go after her tooth and nail. I still don't see her getting the nomination though-at the end of the day-she's just too polarizing.
PeterUK:;
"Hillary hasthe personality of an egg sandwich-" Comment of the day for me!

Jess Sayin

Why is there any speculation? Unless Bush deals with Iraq-2008 is going to be 2006 squared. Doesn't matter who the Dem is.

maryrose

Bumperstickers:
Agreed ! Smart observation!

larwyn

They don't care about the "youthful indiscretions" - but Obama is a real sinner-
HE SMOKES!!!!
Does he smoke around his children?
Does he smoke in Senate Office Bldg?

Why isn't someone investigating that???

(:::laughing::: as I light up)

So now, I guess we advise our teens who want to be President, to do drugs, perhaps
go thru a period of transvestite/transsexual romps, steal at least one car and coins from the poor box, throw in cheating on an exam. Did I miss anything?

Sex tapes will be old hat in, what, 25 years.

If your teen only wants to be Congressman,
Chairman of Judiciary Committee,then grab a few Turkeys from the local food bank.
Working for Conyers - see DaledAmos,HotAir Vent, Michelle, Hugh Hewitt,Tapscott's Copy Desk plus Washington Times.

Must run.

weloveyou

hmmm...
Not a lot of posts about Iraq coming from this blog lately. I wonder if that can be seen as a lack of willingness to stand behind the president right now on behalf of many who lean to the right politically.
There sure is no lack of events that deserve our attention over there.
I for one am less supportive lately. I am very concerned and am not seeing much in the way of substantive desire to resolve this conflict. What's going on?

Appalled Moderate

From Obama to Bloomberg, by way of crack, Bush and Hillary.

By God, I love the internet!

Patton

I think the press can understand a kid from a rich family frowing up in Hawaii turning to drugs due to his environment.

Don't rich kids in Hawaii grow up like poor kids in Chicago?? I mean, I've been to Hawaii, it is a harsh cruel world.

Ready Teddy

Did he ever say it helped? Is there a context for this? Did anyone read any of his books? Besides me, I mean.

PeterUK

"Did he ever say it helped? Is there a context for this? Did anyone read any of his books? Besides me, I mean."

He took drugs to forget - they worked.

windansea

I am bored with all this and have decided to nominate McGuire for the job

he's funny, makes few typos, and hates Lacrosse

good enough considering the alternatives

Tom Maguire

Not a lot of posts about Iraq coming from this blog lately.

Gee, I sure hope that somewhere there is a blogger covering it, or maybe even a conventional news outlet - I'd hate to see Iraq go right under the radar.

Soylent Red

I wonder...

How would this revelation affect his capacity to get a security clearance, as opposed to, say, anyone else who wasn't a politician?

Just thinking out loud.

Soylent Red

He took drugs to forget - they worked.

If they had worked, he would not remember that he was trying to forget.

Further, he would have forgotten what he was trying to forget.

Still further, he would have forgotten why he was trying to forget what he forgot.

Who's on first?

RichatUF

Hillary thinks her main opposition will be Edwards and Obama? Geez, all those pollsters and all those experts can't even come up with anything interesting to say?

How about this: for the R's Keating-Meyers,
D's Clinton-Clark, I's Bloomberg-Hegel

The Clinton-Clark ticket wins 45%-40%-15% and the 4 years of utopia begins

RichatUF

PeterUK

"If they had worked, he would not remember that he was trying to forget."
He left a note.

RichatUF


from maryrose
I still don't see her getting the nomination though-at the end of the day-she's just too polarizing.

Bush II is Nixon II save the nation with Clinton II...

I suppose I don't really care all that much vis the drug and alochol with Obama. Its typical that he would rise to prominence in Chicago then be the anything-but-Hillary canidate. He is the empty suit that the D's can put all their hopes and make the "race" not seem like a coranation. He will raise a pretty good amount of money and build a power base for a future run. He isn't stupid enough to make a serious run against Hillary

RichatUF

RichatUF

seem like a coranation...COROnation

RichatUF

cboldt

Negroponte resigning his position as Director of National Intelligence to become Deputary Secretary of State. Amazing how quickly wikipedia picks things up.

reliapundit

THE DEMS WHO BROUGHT US MAJORITIES IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE WILL NOT NOMINATE HILLARY OR OBAMA.

The Dems got majorities because they ran MODERATE CENTRISTS. Like Tester and Webb.

They will nominate centrists with executive strength and geopolitical strength and demographic strength.

this means Richardson and Warner. A Western catholic Hispanic governor and a protestant southern governor.

this ticket will be hard to beat.

romney ridge could beat them.

yeah RIDGE - a proven vote-getter in PA and with Ohio in doubt for the GOP, they will need to pick up a major Dem state.

Only Ridge can guarantee a blue state pickup of this magnitude.

romney can run strongly in the NE and the West.

this would be a great contest.

romney might also do well with pawlenty or thompson. or mccain.

if warner passes on the veep spot then it will go to Sam Nunn. a cheneyesque move.

Terrye

Bloomberg=Ross Perot=Clinton in the White House.

And anyone who thinks Bush is Nixon 11 does not remember Nixon 1. When I read that I get the same impression I got when I read Max Boot compare Iraq to the Russian Revolution.

Are people under the impression that when Carter left office he was a popular guy? Why is it when people want to complain about a president they always just skip right over him?

Terrye

And I don't think most people are going to worry about Romney being a Mormon.

Terrye

Oh yeah the point of the post. I always wonder if people make an admission like this as a sort of red herring. You know, tell them something now so that they will not be too shocked with other things they might hear. I don't much care, but then again I think that the only reason people even like Obama is that he is different, new and in a couple of years he won't be.

nick

Terrye, or anyone else, re "Bloomberg=Ross Perot=Clinton in the White House." How? Please explain where he draws votes. From libertarians, independents, republicans, or conservatives? As Abe noted above, he represents none of those groups. And he has enough track record, and is stunningly obnoxious, that he will be hard pressed to draw the protest vote. Anyone with the ability to self fund can make a go, how does he gain traction? Votes? Vote for me, the condescending know it all billionaire from Massachusetts, by way of NY, who happens to be Jewish, oh and liberal. Yeah, that dog will hunt.

RichatUF

from Terrye:
And anyone who thinks Bush is Nixon 11 does not remember Nixon 1. When I read that I get the same impression I got when I read Max Boot compare Iraq to the Russian Revolution...

I was being tounge-in-cheek. Maybe I should have used the /sarc tag

from reailpundit:

this means Richardson ... A Western catholic Hispanic governon...

Too much baggage-from UN Ambassador during the expansion of the Oil-for-Food program and his tenure at the Department of Energy. I wouldn't mind seeing OFF and the UN tied around his neck and then kicking him into the Potomac-he probably wouldn't sink, but it would be fun to watch...

RichatUF

Terrye

Rich:

My fault. I misread people all the time. One time I jumped all over poor little happy feet before I realized she/he was just joshing.

nick:

I am not sure Bloomberg could draw that many votes. But then again if Ross Perot could get 20% who knows?

Terrye

Speaking of strange Democrats with strange habits...did anyone catch Cindy Sheehan's performance at the Democratic Press Conference today? I thought Rahm would burst into tears he was so miffed.

cathyf
He took drugs to forget - they worked.

If they had worked, he would not remember that he was trying to forget.

Further, he would have forgotten what he was trying to forget.

Still further, he would have forgotten why he was trying to forget what he forgot.

Gee, d'ya think Team Libby can call on him to testify as their new memory expert?

(I love JOM. The only place where a Libby comment is always on topic in every thread.)

clarice

I heldback on that just to let you have it, Cathy.

Tom Maguire

I love the idea of Tom Ridge for something (and have for awhile).

As to Richardson, I have been assured by a major Dem fundraiser who had no independent way of knowing that Richardson has too many skeletons in the closet. Well, in this context, "skeletons" refers to notably non-dead women.

This was back in Dec 2004, so it seems to be too early for someone from another camp to have been pre-emptively spinning my source. Of course, it was also too early for us to be talking about 2008, yet there we were...

hit and run

Come on. We've plenty of Clintons and Bushes available to rotate the presidency for another quarter century. It's a big conspiracy deeper than any those on the left have come up with regarding halliburton, prescott bush, war for oil, 9/11 an inside job, whatever.

It almost bubbled to the surface when all those stories were running about how close Bush 41 and Bill were getting, what with running the tsunami relief and whatnot.

And this plan is also the reason Joe Wilson had to be marginalized. He came close to exposing it - and if it were not for Libby - it may have all unraveled.

Rove, who masterminded the entire plan back in the 60s, engineered the 06 republican defeat to set up the democratic victory in 08 (hillary, of course).

The only question is, since 41 only got one term, will Jeb squeeze Hill out in '12 or wait until '16? Those details are being hammered out.

And Chelsea and Jenna (forget Barbara jr) are still unaware of the plan. They cannot be trusted yet. Still too young and naive.

There's nothing we can do to stop it.

Free Mumia.

maryrose

Sheehan harassing the dems-I love it! Turnabout is fair play.

Wilson's a liar

I don't know about today, but I know for a fact that in the 1990s you could not get a security clearance if you admitted using cocaine, ever. Can we have a President of the United States that does not qualify for a security clearance?

hit and run

Wilson's a liar:

I don't know about today, but I know for a fact that in the 1990s you could not get a security clearance if you admitted using cocaine,

Well, I don't know about cocaine - but that's surely not true about heroin.

I mean, Jack Bauer lost his job at CTU for his heroin addiction and then later became senior advisor to Secretary of Defense Heller.

maryrose

Speaking of Jack Bauer:
Larwyn alert:
24 starts on Jan. 14th with a 2 hour special which concludes on Monday Jan.15th with a 2 hour show.Jack is Back!

Daddy

Wow, Wilson, I hadn't thought of that angle. So now when Obama, as potential Commander in Chief, gets the Chickenhawk question "Why didn't you serve in the military?" he can legitimately respond "Well I wanted to, but my youthful unfortunate involvement with cocaine made me inelligible for service, and I'm running for President now so that I can be a champion for ending such discrimination." That answer's probably worth at least a million votes in Durham alone.

M. Simon

If you are concerned about your kd's drug use get them genetically tested. Addiction is in part a genetic disease.

If they are not genetically susceptable experimentation will cause them little harm (as long as they stay away from the law).

If they are susceptable there may be nothing you can do to stop it as the drug use may be a way of restoring the chemical balance.

In other words - drugs are drugs.

M. Simon

I have a lot more to say on the subject here:

Is Addiction Real?

and you might find this interesting:

PTSD and the Endocannabinoid System

mark c.

If they are not genetically susceptable experimentation will cause them little harm (as long as they stay away from the law).

yeah, i remember when i was pissing away my youth "experimenting" every day, getting C's and D's in school and basically squandering any hope for the future. no harm done there. A family and common sense saved this experimenter just in time.

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