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March 03, 2007

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sylvia

People really take her seriously around the world sadly as a reflection of America. I read this Swedish blog on occasion (its in english), and he just had a post up on it and was really shocked. I don't think he knew about the context of the "faggot" and rehab remark, so it was even more shocking to him. The GOP should disavow her statements - quickly.

Patton

I read the Captians Quarters and I don't get his point, Coulter made a joke. Unless CQ actually believes Edwards is gay, which I don't believe he does.

Coulter did not call anyone a faggot, she said if she used the term she would have to go to rehab.
She was joking about Edwards own tolerance for name calling since he has defended and kept on the payroll his own name callers.

If Coulter said, now I want to talk about that faggot Edwards, that would be different.
You may not like her joke, you may not understand it if you weren't aware of the Christian bashers that Edwards himself hires and defends.

Coulter once again made her point very sharply...some just react in a knee jerk manner.

sylvia

And I thought I was only the only one who secretly thought Edwards was closet - just by his manner of speech. Are there some more rumors about this?

sylvia

Oh okay I get it, Patton, I did forget for a moment about his bloggers insulting Catholics, hence she can insult Edwards, etc. Okay. She tied it all in.

ben

She qualified the comment by basically saying "I might have to go to rehab for this" ...I think the political correctness police can go too far too..if she had said "gay" it would have been ok I suppose...I dont think it was the smartest thing to say but I dont think it merits all the piling on either...

BumperStickerist

All it takes is for some Conservative blogger to ask Ann to finish her thought.

Chances are, it's not much of a thought.

If Ann had said "'faggot' but then I'd have to resign as the blogmaster for a Republican" the explications offered on Ann's behalf, might make some sense.


Otherwise, Ann continues to be in need of male companionship:

Ann of a Thousand Lays - 1999, hands down, the second funniest thing published on Salon.

sylvia

Yes I agree with the above comments that the joke did not come out very well - too subtle to make any sense. Hopefully she wrote it better but it just came out wrong. I think Coulter botched it, Kerry style.

PaulL

I thought it was funny. It's just playing off the Grey's Anatomy fuss and Edwards's fondness for primping. Stereotypically a man overly fond of mirror gazing is considered gay.

BarbaraS

It is very amusing to me that conservatives are so quick to jump on anything Ann Coulter has to say about anything. It doesn't meet their "nice" standards. When will it occur to conservatives we are in a war with the liberals and it is of their making. Ann is our attack dog if you willand she answers back. Not in their language but biting anyway. She has never said anything that compares with the libs. I enjoy her very much but then I applaud when a conservative shoots down a liberal in a clever way.

BarbaraS

Ann of a Thousand Lays. How typical. She makes fun of liberals and they come back with sex and bathroom jokes. Liberals are so basic and childish too.

Patton

Yeah thats good, the people that say Ann is too over the top, applaud attacks on her such as:

Quit injecting yourself with your own urine.
Salon

Ohh, yeah, I'm supposed to be concerned for their sensibilities.

Get over it.

azaghal

I found her remarks to be funny and in good taste.

Sincerely,

the newly tolerant azaghal

kate

Coulter used to be an excellent advocate for conservative causes. I now think she is more into celebrity than politics.

I do know she uses irony to make her point. Her case with the "Jersey Girls" illustrates that. I, for one, was sick of hearing from them.

Coulter is not a great debater, either. Instead of making her points, she giggles.

clarice

She could use a few weeks at the TM school of subtle digs.

Deagle

Agree with Patton and BarbaraS.

I despise the PC crowd (mostly left, but many aspiring conservatives of late)... and am disgusted that the beautifully descriptive word 'gay' has been lost.

PMII

She could use a few weeks at the TM school of subtle digs.

Posted by: clarice | March 03, 2007 at 12:46 PM


That would probably really help her - but only if she listened to the instructors and not some of the students

Patton

Liberals just can't handle a strong powerful women.....

azaghal

She could use a few weeks at the TM school of subtle digs.

Posted by: clarice | March 03, 2007 at 12:46 PM


Was that an example?

:-)

clarice

*wink*

Ralph L.

Ok, Bstickerist, I'll bite. What's the funniest thing posted on Saloon?

BarbaraS

I like her. She doesn't let the liberals take her down. Those liberal pundits come out with outrageous remarks and she doesn't get mad, she gets even. And I like the way she doesn't back down with the likes of Alan Colmes. She is calm and forceful. Most republican pundits let the liberals walk all over them and outshout them. I want someone to beat them at their own game.

Gary Maxwell

Well it was a stupid thing to say and if she did not mean to offend she should say so.

I would suggest A Democrat Party apology i.e. " I am so sorry you misunderstood me."

Forbes

The PC crowd says that you cannot use the word "faggot" in any context. The PC-agenda of the left is about controlling speech--I think Orwell had some things to say about that subject. Those on the right that decry Ann, whether in response to, or in anticipation of, complaints from the left, are just aligning themselves with the thin-skinned PC brigade. The mature course of action would be to ignore tired PC complaints, and if of like mind as TM, then ignore Ms. Coulter.

Patton

Look, a guy on Greys Anatomy used the Faggot word, twice, and then checked himself into re-hab, just like all the Hollywood elite before him caught bad mouthing others.

Ann made a joke about Hollywood culture, tied into Edwards own defense some of ther worst name calling done by his own bloggers.

The fact that some try to take offense at any little word is nothing new.

Ralph L.

As someone who has used crude slang on this blog, I shouldn't throw stones, but I object to her using vulgarity in a public political forum. It wasn't a comedy club. Slouching toward Gomorrah and that other place, as Benny Hill used to say.

Rick Ballard

I deeply regret any harm done to Silky Pony's manly metrosexuality and wish to distance myself from any attacks upon his lack of testosterone. I certainly hope that no permanent damage was done to his hair. Stress often causes split ends and while a good conditioner can do wonders it is not a permanent remedy.

Ralph L.

"manly metrosexuality", now there's an oxymoron. And he lives in the country now, no longer in suburban Raleigh.

Syl

Well it was a stupid thing to say and if she did not mean to offend she should say so.

LOL I'm sure she did mean offense by it.

I like her. I admire her. I don't agree with everything she stands for but that doesn't mean I don't cheer her on when she makes her digs.

And what I like best about her is that she's not afraid to be politically incorrect.

Which makes me enjoy the agonizing of the left as I watch them throw stupid bile at her but also slightly cringe at the PC right who may or may not disagree with her but don't want to be SEEN as agreeing with her.

She's a pure troublemaker. She has also contributed mightily to the sharp partisan divide we have in America.

But, damn, what a show.

She always leaves me chuckling.

Gary Maxwell

Now if she has just referred to him as "prissy pants" everything would be just fine, and perhaps an apt discription. I now live in fear that his monster of a wife will beat the tar out of me!

boris

So Ann is not one of the "good guys". Me neither.

Forbes

GM: I think you're on to something. AC could've asked rhetorically, "if I use the phrase prissy pants, will I have to go to rehab?"

Cheers

maryrose

I agree Syl/If the BDS'ers can print and mouth lies Ann can get off a few digs at those who seem to invite it and those who appear to be narcissistic. Kerry and Edwards are two of a kind in not passing a mirror without looking. Mrs Edwards does wear the pants in that family however.

Barney Frank

I sometimes initially cringe when she speaks, but the fact that she not only survives, but thrives using words that the lefty crowd tries to enforce as verboten is the greatest single antidote to that pestilence known as PC.

Paul

Meanwhile we have Bill Maher lamenting the fact that the bomb didn't kill Cheney, stating that "it's a fact" that less people would die if Cheney was killed.

Ann's joke was thick with irony, and she's right on the money. We've all seen the infamous hair fussing video. Even if Edwards likes women he's still a vagina man.

Semanticleo

She's a deeply committed Christian who takes her dogmatic screed to the bank. Isn't that what Christianity is about? So she sells a lot of books. It's her evangelistic duty to carry her message to the masses. Rich?
Oh, I'm sure she gathers a significant sum for her charitable instincts. Can anyone prove otherwise? I thought not.

Syl

Sem

If you could figure out how to make money, you'd go for it.

And there ain't one thing wrong with that.

Gary Maxwell

Careful Cleo, with your mannerisms and that genderbender name she may call you a few names that might stick!

PeterUK

Clarice,
"She could use a few weeks at the TM school of subtle digs.

Nah,the only thing that registers with liberals is a sockfull of Diarrhoea round the earhole.They have been biting scratching and gouging,hitting bellow the belt whilst the right has been playing by the Marquis of Queensberry rules.

PeterUK

Besides,what is offensive about a bundle of kindling?

Gary Maxwell

I dont know PUK but Dan Riehl has a post up saying that faggots are something that the British eat. Well I never USED to believe what they say about British guys, but if this is true I may have to admit my error!

Semanticleo

"Careful Cleo, with your mannerisms and that genderbender name she may call you a few names that might stick!"

Of all the fears the imagination can stir,
gender uncertainty seems to lead your list.

It's not my bogeyman, but your transparent
projection just left you naked as the day
you were hatched. I'll send you a figleaf by snailmail.

boris

It's not my bogeyman

Then of course you have no problem with Coulter's joke. Unless you're in denial.

Gary Maxwell

I willmention your concerns to my wife. And she will get a chuckle that a prissy pants was all about it.

Please keep your snail mail to yourself, I put you and Ted Kazinsky as two people I never want to see any mail from!

Neo

Anyone who taks all this seriously needs to go to a WWE (formerly WWF) event and try to take it seriously as well.

It's all entertainment.

The only folks to really take this seriously must think that Edwards is a ...

As far as disavowing, I haven't heard Howard Dean disavow that "Bush is like H.t.er" lately, or those Cheney jokes from the other day. Face it, disavowing is just as stupid as the original "foot in mouth." Only an idiot or fool apologies for someone else's mistake.


P.S. since Chief J Strongbow retired, WWF just isn't the same.

Gary Maxwell

Here Cleo, this will no doubt send you to British Airways site to book a roundtrip! Alittle tidbit I found on a British site:

"The great British faggot is full of flavour and a great belly warmer at this time of year."

PeterUK

Wasn't it a Democrat voter who called three thousand murder victims "Little Eichmans".

PeterUK

Gary,
Here are some Faggot recipes via the BBC,seems like Anne Coulter is in the clear.
.and will you Americans stop buggering up perfectly useful words?

clarice

Yuck, PUK--

Of the major Republican candidates, only Mr. McCain did not attend [CPAC], but he denounced her remarks on Saturday morning. “The comments were wildly inappropriate,” said his spokesman, Brian Jones.
Mr. Giuliani said, “The comments were completely inappropriate and there should be no place for such name-calling in political debate.”
Kevin Madden, a spokesman for Mr. Romney, said: “It was an offensive remark. Governor Romney believes all people should be treated with dignity and respect.”
(Hot Air.com)

Ralph L.

So those are the faggots the Muslims object to so much. No wonder, with all those pig parts. Does that mean it's safe for Elton John and George Michael to tour the Mid East?

PaulL

Watching Ann's delivery on YouTube is much better than reading the comments. She has *great* comic timing.

Naturally politicians are going to denounce the remarks because they need every vote they can get. And it's not like I wouldn't vote for Giuliani just because he criticized Ann.

Syl

Governor Romney believes all people should be treated with dignity and respect.

Blech.

'Inappropriate remarks' is one thing, but this is pablum.

arcanorum

Sad that someone of Ann's enormous talents chooses to throw her own name into the headlines through injudicious use of gutter shock humor at the expense of the conservative movement. Even sadder that there are those who applaud and defend these actions, apparently without comprehending the cost.

Conservatism has plenty of good ideas, and the movement would be better served by presenting these ideas in a rational thoughtful methodology.

At the end of the day, Ann has offered very little to humanity other than venom and hatred.

I pity her.

bubarooni

this whole ferfuffle is sooooooooo gay.

do i have to go to the principal's office for saying that?

Semanticleo

"I willmention your concerns to my wife"

Marriage is no proof of predisposition

Ralph L.

Do you mean "kerfuffle?" It wasn't a true catfight, so "ferfuffle" doesn't really apply.

bubarooni

uhhhhhhh......'kerfuffle'

TexasToast

The PC crowd says that you cannot use the word "faggot" in any context. The PC-agenda of the left is about controlling speech--

Then why is the right getting the vapors over the seven dirty words? ( to the point of a google "study") giggle

MayBee

It wasn't clever enough for the bother. And really not appropriate for the venue.

The Dems calling for Rep candidates to condemn it is ridiculous, of course.

bubarooni

how queer an error on my part.

my left hand was full of cheezit's?

Syl

arcanorum

Conservatism has plenty of good ideas,

Yes, it does.

and the movement would be better served by presenting these ideas in a rational thoughtful

It does, mostly. But one must consider encounters with the enemy, oops, opposition which have a great influence on the debate. Casualties will occur.

methodology.

Ooops. Scary word. One can't really wrap up all the diverse ideas into one neat 'methodology' unless some creative forcing occurs.

Ann has offered very little to humanity other than venom and hatred.

and fun and wit and gotcha's and, even if unintentional, insight into what both sides bring to the bargaining table of life.

Ralph L.

Oh dear, Seman. has said something I agree with. There's a dirty old married man who's been ogling me at the Y for 14 years, without encouragement.

Bob

Ann is brilliant... she baited the Democrats with this and they fell hook line and sinker for it.

Go Ann!

Ralph L.

Buba, you mean you don't know for sure what your left hand is doing? You're a one-man bureaucracy.

arcanorum

"Wasn't it a Democrat voter who called three thousand murder victims "Little Eichmans"."

1. Ward Churchill made this comment in an essay that he posted on the internet. While his politics are left of center, I am unaware that his voter affiliation has been disclosed, or that it is relevant to any discussion of these remarks. These remarks were not made in any party affiliated context, and were not endorsed by any party.

2. Outrage at these remarks rightly caused many to demand a retraction or an apology. The spotlight that the remarks generated ultimately led to an investigation that led to the conclusion that Churchill had committed academic fraud and he was fired from his university tenured position.

3. Even if we accept that those on the left will make these ad homenim attacks, it would be a tactical error to respond in kind when we ourselves possess the high moral ground with our solid platform of good ideas. Far better to forcefully argue the conservative position and the voters will respond (contract wiht America, 1994) than engage in gutter sniping with the rabid dogs of the left.

Syl

You're a one-man bureaucracy.

LOL!

arcanorum

Ann's comments have cost the conservative movement, although it is not clear how much the damage will be or the precise consequences.

Her comments do serve to line her own pockets and get her face splashed into the Sunday news sheets.

Interesting.

Syl

arcanorum

...than engage in gutter sniping with the rabid dogs of the left.

Ann has taught you well. :)

Syl

TT

Then why is the right getting the vapors over the seven dirty words? ( to the point of a google "study") giggle

I chuckled at that myself.

arcanorum

'Ann has taught you well. :)'

Ideas can be presented forcefully, but a forceful presentation empty of ideas does not advance the cause.

centralcal

A month from now, who will care what Ann Coulter said? She is funny, biting and sharp. Sometimes she shocks me with the things she says - but it is because I am a coward to PC.

And, really, the reference to faggot in the same sentence as Edwards is nothing compared to his being called "silky pony" and "Breck girl." Nobody is huffing and puffing about those descriptions which are used in many, many circles!

arcanorum

'Ann has taught you well. :)'

and you're no slouch, either. ;)

arcanorum

"And, really, the reference to faggot in the same sentence as Edwards is nothing compared to his being called "silky pony" and "Breck girl. Nobody is huffing and puffing about those descriptions which are used in many, many circles!"

I am not aware that these descriptors have been used in the official meetings of central blocs of the republican party.

The term 'faggot' is shocking and unpleasant to more than half of America. For it to be used by an invited speaker in a televised meeting of an important republican voting bloc is a costly mistake.

Imust B Crazy

Ann's problem is she's made a good living impersonating Rosie O'D and Bill Maher but the audience for her routine is shrinking. It must really tick her off to see their ratings rise for doing the same shtick, but that's show business.

OTOH who's got us burning up all these electrons talking about her???

Patton

Jeff Jacoby of the Boston Globe writes an annual column on Democrat/Liberal hate speech.

To the contrary of arcanorum, these liberals are not considered 'rabid dogs', THEY ARE CELEBRATED AND HELD IN HIGH REGARD BY THE MEDIA AND INTELLIGENCIA.

From Al Gore (who compared Republicans to kids with Down Syndrome or as he said, the extra-chronosome right wing) to Nina Totenburg
saying of Senator Helms "because if there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will."

These people are elevated by the left and never maligned or even called controversial by the media.

Maybe Coulter should have said the same thing as leftist Julianne Malveaux, a radio host and USA Today columnist, who caught no flak when she prayed aloud for the death of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. "I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease," she snarled on PBS.


BarbaraS

Oh, I'm sure she gathers a significant sum for her charitable instincts. Can anyone prove otherwise? I thought not.

This statement is right up there with if you haven't served in the military you are a chickenhawk. The liberals all make it mandatory that if a repulican makes a statement they must back it up by giveing away money, joining the service, etc. You say because she makes money she should give it away. You know the last time I checked there is free will in this country and no one has to do what someone else thinks they should do. But this sounds like another mantra of the left...if Bush is for this war then his daughters should be fighting
in Iraq completely overlooking the fact they might not want to go and are entitled to not do that. Eventually the leftists' arguements boils down to inanities when they are backed up against a wall.

Terrye

I don't think Coulter is funny. She is rude and obnoxious and I am tired of seeing people say that is ok for Coulter to say daring things like faggot {whooo I am blushing} because the lefties are always mean. Yes, they are vile and mean and hypocrites. They are the loony left. They call them loony for a reason.

Coulter is mean. When Miers was being made fun of by all kinds of people for everything from her age to her eye makeup to her marital status there was Coulter attacking Bush with as much zeal as Michael Moore, yammering away about how Miers only went to a {sniff} state university. Not the right sort of people at all. Gag me. I think she called her schtick, in Defence of the Ivey League or something equally elitist. Gore could not have done a better job of playing royalty.

And then comes the raghead remark, oh that showed em. Terrorists the world over were shaking in their boots because a rich self obsessed blonde with big teeth called them ragheads.

And now faggot. Oh that was really smart. This is not about political correctness. This is not about freedom of speech. It is about a shock jock passing herself off as a pundit trying to make money peddling her books and playing to the tired old "all conservatives are homophobic bigots" crowd.

I guess next year she will bring down the house with a real gut splitter about wetbacks.

Sheesh.

Patton

Jeff Jacoby:

That was what the Montana Democratic Party did to Mike Taylor, the GOP candidate for the US Senate this year. The Democrats unearthed an ancient TV clip of Taylor, who once owned a string of hair salons, and turned it into an ad that played up every stereotype of the homosexual male hairdresser.

As one Montana daily reported, the ad showed Taylor applying lotion to the face of a male customer. He is seen "wearing a tight-fitting, three-piece suit with a big-collared open shirt. . . . Taylor's top two or three shirt buttons are unbuttoned, exposing some bare chest and a number of gold chains." The innuendo was blatant and, in political terms, devastating.

If Republicans ever deployed such heavy-handed gay-baiting against a Democrat, the uproar would be deafening. But there was no uproar when it was done to a Republican -- not even from groups that usually roar with outrage when gays or lesbians are mocked. The double standard on political sleaze may have weakened a bit in 2002. Alas, it's still going strong.

Paul

"Ann's comments have cost the conservative movement, although it is not clear how much the damage will be or the precise consequences."

I would suggest that she's as popular with South Park, or 911 Republicans as she is scorned by the paleoprudes.

I would futher suggest that the future of the party lies with recruiting more of the former category.

centralcal

I am not sure it will be a "costly" mistake. The announced candidates are all distancing themselves from and expressing their disagreement with her comment.

BarbaraS

Marriage is no proof of predisposition

Ability to talk is no indication that brains are involved.

PeterUK

arcanorum,
That is why you are losing.

arcanorum

"I am not sure it will be a "costly" mistake. The announced candidates are all distancing themselves from and expressing their disagreement with her comment."

It is costly because long after the details are forgotten, the bad taste lingers. The candidates have distanced themselves, but the taint remains.

The middle 30% is as necessary as the right 30% to win elections, and those in the middle are the folks you lose.

Terrye

Ed Morrisey has a post up saying that McCain and Gulliani and Romney have all denounced Coulter's assanine comments. But it ain't over yet. The following is from Ed's:

John Edwards has started using the video clip as a fundraising tool, and Howard Dean used the incident to bash Republicans more, but the real winner of this incident is ... John McCain. McCain didn't attend the conference and got excoriated by conservatives for this decision. He can point to the Coulter remark as an excuse for bypassing CPAC by calling it an extremist venue that he was correct to avoid. It's not true -- most of the CPAC attendees abhorred Coulter's remark when informed of it -- but he won't win their support now anyway, and it makes for a good ex post facto excuse.

arcanorum

"arcanorum,
That is why you are losing."

We dont need more like Coulter, we need more like William F Buckley.

Thoughtful substance over vicious shrillness.

Patton

Remember the wave of outrage that swept the nation after Charlton Heston, the president of the National Rifle Association, told a radio interviewer that the best way to deal with liberal filmmaker Spike Lee would be to "shoot him with a .44-caliber Bulldog" revolver? Remember the scathing editorials and the full-page ads blasting Heston's appalling remark? You don't remember? Don't feel bad. It never happened. Heston never said that about Lee.

Lee said it about Heston.

Asked for his thoughts on Heston, Lee recommended assassinating him with a .44 special. A conservative who made such a comment about a liberal would have been crushed under an avalanche of denunciation. But when a liberal talks that way about a conservative, the media rarely notice.
Jeff Jacoby

More double standards...

Retiree

I'm sure that when the voters go to the polls in '08, they're going to say "Damn that Ann Coulter and her faggot joke--I'M going to vote Democrat!

Paul

"The middle 30% is as necessary as the right 30% to win elections, and those in the middle are the folks you lose."

Oh I'm sure millions of people will run into the arms of the left because Ann Coulter pokes fun at the PC Hollywood twits who go into rehab for using the word "faggot".

The left is full of scolds and nags trying to control speech and thought. Maybe you would be more at home there.

Terrye

Paul:

Paleoprudes? I don't want this country to be run by people who sound like a right wing Rosie O'Donnel. There is nothing daring or brave in calling someone a faggot, it is just stupid.

I guess she should call Hillary a dyke and really put the screws to the paleoprudes. This sounds like teenagers trying to sound adult by using obscenities. What is next? Smoking in the bathroom?

Patton

One may also remember a liberal gay activist Dan Savage who boasted on Salon.com of his efforts to infect Gary Bauer with flu.

And has Ann Coulter ever come close to topping Paul Begala for this comment??:

Paul Begala, who wrote on MSNBC.com about the map with color-coded election returns that showed a sea of red for Bush with small blotches of blue for Gore.

"You see the state where James Byrd was lynched-dragged behind a pickup truck until his body came apart - it's red. You see the state where Matthew Shepard was crucified . . . for the crime of being gay - it's red. You see the state where right-wing extremists blew up a federal office building and murdered scores of federal employees: red. The state where an Army private thought to be gay was bludgeoned to death with a baseball bat . . . and the state where Bob Jones University spews its anti-Catholic bigotry: they're all red, too."

Just when was Paul Begala chastised? Run out of town, etc. NEVER! He was elevated, celegrated, loved and reverred by the left.

PeterUK

In the Red corner Clarice "Thoughtful substance over vicious shrillness" Feldman.

and in the Blue corner Biloximan,the voice of sweet reason.

Oh please... And gas queen Clarice references her article to the other skank queen friend Victoria Toescum. What concidential is that? How about that: the two skank queen of journalism! I skimmed over the garbage of her version of real truth behind the Libby trial. As Randall says: no comment.

Folks, it's been real and it's fun today. Signing off for the evening and won't be on tomorrow. Have fun chatting amongst yourselves. Hopefully, the jurors won't have a verdict tomorrow. You never know. And to the Anon person who claimed that I am woman, I might have take your offer and look into a sex change operation. A little mascara and lipstick will scare anybody. Now, it will put a shock to my lady and a few clothes tossed in the street for that. At least, I can do a better job reporting the truth in journalism than twildledee and twildledumb! LOL! Good night. Have a nice weekend! Biloximan out!

8:33 PM

This will be a ten round intellectual catchweight contest,no gouging and no "Yah Boo Poopypants"
Your referee arcanorum.

Paul

In fact one way you can tell the left is winning is that their PC bullshit has been picked up by the right, along with AGW hysteria.

Terrye

Paul:

The point is the venue. This was supposed to be a conference for the leading Republican presidential contenders and instead it was turned into a bad stand up comic routine by Ann Coulter. It was not the time and place.

I remember when I saw Michael Moore at the Democratic National Convention I was so disgusted. This is not a lot different.

Believe it or not refraining from calling someone a faggot at a public meeting like this is not PC, it is just common curtesy. Back in the days when paleos were pretty much all there was and there was no such thing as political correctness, people did not make a point of calling people faggot in situations like this. It was considered tacky.

arcanorum

"And has Ann Coulter ever come close to topping Paul Begala for this comment??:"

This is your defense? That she is not so offensive a Bagala? Or that the left, empty of ideas, celebrates this kind of attack?

These comments may not affect all voters, and they may not be the sole reason for someone to pull the D lever, but they will alienate some. Yes, they have done damage.

In a close election, every vote matters, and it is not wise to risk losing votes by catering to someone who offends many in an attempt to get a cheap laugh, sell a few books, and get her face on the news.

Paul

The fact is AC is nowhere near as foul mouthed as the average leftist, and her barbs never have the foam flecked-dilated pupil searing hatred that passes for normal emoting on the left. She's always laughing mockingly and never overwraught like her opponents.

And yeah, paleoprude is my definition of anyone whose panties twist up at the sound of the word faggot.

PeterUK

Paul,
Exactly,the main weapon of the left has always bee ideological,change your language,change your way of thinking.If this were simply a matter of doctrine it would not matter,since although painful the left has always failed in the long run,but now there is a third contender.

Ralph L.

Remember, she didn't actually call anyone a faggot. But it was too vulgar for the venue. Does that make her a major league asshole, to coin a phrase?

Paul

Well Terrye you have a point in that the venue probably did have more than it's share prudes, relative to the ratio in the population at large.

Still it's a tempest in a teapot and I don't reserve much courtesy for people like Edwards or Kerry or Howard Dean.

And comparing AC's joke with fatso sitting next to Jimmah is quite a stretch in all that it implies.

PeterUK

"In a close election, every vote matters, and it is not wise to risk losing votes by catering to someone who offends many in an attempt to get a cheap laugh, sell a few books, and get her face on the news."

Strangely this behaviour does not lose votes for the Democrats.

They can traduce your Commander in Chief in time of war,likening him to Hitler,they can pull scams like the Plame affair and the Foley ambush and they are winning.Not a single sane idea emerges from the left,only the politics of winning.

Terrye

I don't care about the left, dammit. This is not about them.

This is like listening to children trying to justify bad behavior by saying the other kids did it. Well I don't care about the other kids.

And this was not the place. The left has done and said some really nasty things, but this was a gathering for Republican thinkers and Presidential candidates. It is not one of Air America's inane idiotic shows that no one listens to anyway. It was not some moron of a college professor babbling about a million Mogadishus...this was something a little more important than that and it reflects on the people there.

I don't like the word faggot, but if Ann Coulter wants to go to some book signing and run her mouth and say daring in your face things like faggot, well I guess she can do that. But this was not a book signing. This was about someone other than Ann.

And I am not going to start liking the word faggot just because someone says I am whipped by the PC police if I don't say it every freaking chance I get.

bubarooni

good god!

they were cheese-nips!

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