Sampson, Ongoing

The Times covers the testimony of Kyle Sampson, the former chief of staff to embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales:

WASHINGTON, March 29 — The former chief of staff to Alberto R. Gonzales testified  on Thursday that he had consulted regularly with the attorney general about dismissing United States attorneys, disputing Mr. Gonzales’s public account of his role as very limited.

The former aide, D. Kyle Sampson, who resigned two weeks ago, told the Senate Judiciary Committee that Mr. Gonzales’s statements about the prosecutors’ dismissals were inaccurate and that the attorney general had been repeatedly advised of the planning for them.

The two men talked about the dismissal plans over a two-year period, Mr. Sampson said, beginning in early 2005 when Mr. Gonzales was still the White House counsel. Mr. Sampson said he had briefed his boss at least five times before December 2006, when seven of the eight prosecutors were ousted.

OK, I will take a stand here and pronounce that this was not helpful to Gonzales.  The Times editors joined in:

But if Mr. Sampson was trying to fall on his sword, he had horrible aim. In testimony that got so embarrassing for the White House that the Republicans tried to cut it off, Mr. Sampson simply ended up making it clearer than ever that the eight prosecutors were fired for political reasons.

He provided more evidence, also, that the attorney general and other top Justice Department officials were dishonest in their initial statements about the firings.     

"Fired for political reasons" is pretty vague, considering that these people were appointed for political reasons.

Dana Milbank of the WaPo has more - apparently Mr. Sampson staged an "I Don't RememberFest" - look for him to appear as a spokesman for gingko-bilboa, if he remembers to show up.  But I am not criticicizing!  Given the temper of the times, and the Dems desire for a perjury prosecution, not remembering may be the safer stratgey.

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[Barry]

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Today I am signing into law H.R. 4655, the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998." This Act makes clear that it is the sense of the Congress that the United States should support those elements of the Iraqi opposition that advocate a very different future for Iraq than the bitter reality of internal repression and external aggression that the current regime in Baghdad now offers.

Let me be clear on what the U.S. objectives are: The United States wants Iraq to rejoin the family of nations as a freedom-loving and law-abiding member. This is in our interest and that of our allies within the region.

The United States favors an Iraq that offers its people freedom at home. I categorically reject arguments that this is unattainable due to Iraq's history or its ethnic or sectarian make-up. Iraqis deserve and desire freedom like everyone else. The United States looks forward to a democratically supported regime that would permit us to enter into a dialogue leading to the reintegration of Iraq into normal international life.

My Administration has pursued, and will continue to pursue, these objectives through active application of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions. The evidence is overwhelming that such changes will not happen under the current Iraq leadership.

In the meantime, while the United States continues to look to the Security Council's efforts to keep the current regime's behavior in check, we look forward to new leadership in Iraq that has the support of the Iraqi people. The United States is providing support to opposition groups from all sectors of the Iraqi community that could lead to a popularly supported government.

On October 21, 1998, I signed into law the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, which made $8 million available for assistance to the Iraqi democratic opposition. This assistance is intended to help the democratic opposition unify, work together more effectively, and articulate the aspirations of the Iraqi people for a pluralistic, participa--tory political system that will include all of Iraq's diverse ethnic and religious groups. As required by the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for FY 1998 (Public Law 105-174), the Department of State submitted a report to the Congress on plans to establish a program to support the democratic opposition. My Administration, as required by that statute, has also begun to implement a program to compile information regarding allegations of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes by Iraq's current leaders as a step towards bringing to justice those directly responsible for such acts.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 provides additional, discretionary authorities under which my Administration can act to further the objectives I outlined above. There are, of course, other important elements of U.S. policy. These include the maintenance of U.N. Security Council support efforts to eliminate Iraq's weapons and missile programs and economic sanctions that continue to deny the regime the means to reconstitute those threats to international peace and security. United States support for the Iraqi opposition will be carried out consistent with those policy objectives as well. Similarly, U.S. support must be attuned to what the opposition can effectively make use of as it develops over time. With those observations, I sign H.R. 4655 into law.

WILLIAM J. CLINTON

THE WHITE HOUSE,

October 31, 1998.

[SlimGuy]

If so...why not provide the evidence that WMD weren't the PRIMARY reason for the invasion.

Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Tom | March 31, 2007 at 05:33 PM
Read my 5:35 post , it happened.

[PeterUK]

"Exactly how long do YOU propose we stay?"

Well you won't understand this Mark,since you have never stuck at anything other than being an buffoon,but until the job is done.Oh sorry did I say a bad word,JoB?

"And if you feel so strongly about this, contrary to the rest of your country's populace...why aren't YOU over there helping out?"

What do you know about your own country let alone mine?
Are you opening a UK branch of Operation Yellow Elephant Mark? I can get you on the list of sexual predators fast than you can blink.

[Ralph L.]

"You would think, but really, I'm still a little under the weather from whatever bug crawled up my whatever and did whatever to my whatever"

Sounds like H&R applied tequila w/ worm to the wrong end.

Try yogurt. It replaces the good bacteria in the GI tract.

[Barry]

"Barry,
Geee, I didn't realize I was the reason Iran had hostages."

Well, yes your kind are EXACTLY why.

But you learned little in elementary school.

[SlimGuy]

Tom

You and all your troll buddies have been down the line point by point proven specifically without qualification wrong, but still you try to fight the fight with all the wrong headed prepositions you try to put forth.

It is just not a case of once or twice being shot down, but it is like the poor buffalo suffered under the hunters on the midwest plains in the worst case.

It is really a pity to watch.

But carry on if you must.

[Semanticleo]

"until the job is done"

Same bullshit answer as President Doofus.

[Tom]

Slim,
Why can't you peabrains let Clinton go...and what does it have to do with the WMD discussion...the fact that he, like many others, thought Saddam had the capacity to do harm??? He also thought the same about Russis, N. Korea, and others, but he didn't INVADE.)

The man hasn't been President for quite some time, never invaded Iraq and has absolutely nothing to do with the insanity Bush has fostered upon us.

ALL kinds of people hated Saddam...and did you know Bush Sr., Rummy, Cheney and Wolfie actually worked WITH the asshole (SURPRISE!!!)...but G.W. Bush...and ONLY G.W.Bush actually invaded.

You can't be this dumb...can you??

[Tom]

Slim,
Would you like to clarify the areas where I've been wrong?

Didn't think so.

[SlimGuy]

"until the job is done"

Same bullshit answer as President Doofus.

Posted by: Semanticleo | March 31, 2007 at 05:46 PM
Ok dufus get out your crystal ball and tell me exactly when the situation could be stable.

[SlimGuy]

Slim,
Would you like to clarify the areas where I've been wrong?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: Tom | March 31, 2007 at 05:47 PM

Pick one , they all apply.

[PeterUK]

"until the job is done"

Same bullshit answer as President Bush".

Yes great minds think alike Septic,

How would you prefer the job in Iraq finished, a quarter done,half done? Where are you going to run away next?

[Semanticleo]

"Yes great minds think alike"

Does that include hydroencephalics like you and President Doofus?

[Tom]

Barry,
C'mon, even YOU can do better than that. The same ol' "if you're not with us, you're against us" bullshit went out the door quite some time ago (Remember the last elections??)

Arguing with you is childs play at best.

*PUKE, I notice you have no answer as to why YOU'RE not in Iraq helping out. As to how your country feels, only a moron wouldn't know by now...unless of course you're not really in the UK...and just think it's really neat to act like you are. (It is hard to believe an actual Brit would be so supportive of little Georgie, but you're certainly not the brightest bulb on the block...(SPACES between words, etc...and...there are lots of sheep over there.)

[SlimGuy]

Slim,
Why can't you peabrains let Clinton go..

Perhaps I missed it, I am getting older but please point to where I mentioned Clinton. I honestly do not recall that. I scrolled back for a bit , but I see no reference to him.

[SlimGuy]

(SPACES between words, etc...and...there are lots of sheep over there.)

Posted by: Tom | March 31, 2007 at 05:57 PM

Tom

You really need to get help about this sheep thing.

[Tom]

PUKE,
"great minds"...PeterUK...and Bush????

All in the same posting??

Now THAT IS FUNNY.

*SPACES, you idiot. They go BETWEEN the words, etc. (Uh, you DO have a space bar on your keyboard...right?)

[Semanticleo]

from higher in the thread, languishing
in rebuttal vacuum.

Surge and re-surge?

Is pyrrhic victory, victory enough?

If a depleted and demoralized military
fights to the last man, our national treasury bankrupt, our relationship with
the remainder of the free world resembles
that of the North Korean megolomaniac's,
will that be enough?

How much is enough?

[Tom]

Slim,
Hey, it's PUKE who's drilling the sheep...and pining over Lazy Sara.

[SlimGuy]

Tom

I have searched the text of this thread for the word Clinton. None of them were mine.

What a shock.

[Barry]

You are not smart enough to understand this, but I'll 'splain it to you.

When a threat emerges, and you are much more powerful that those doing the threatening, the threatening rely upon those that hate their own country to do their bidding. Those include you Tom.

Go chain yourself to a nuclear facility in Iran. Look up. See if you can read. Made in the USA. Sooner or later it has to happen. But, if those like you would get behind eliminating the evil, the evil *might* be eliminated without taking such horrible action.

Chamberlain got it, best I recall.

[SlimGuy]

Slim,
Hey, it's PUKE who's drilling the sheep...and pining over Lazy Sara.

Posted by: Tom | March 31, 2007 at 06:04 PM

Sorry we refuse to live out your fantasies.

Try again little man.

[Tom]

Sorry, Slim...It was the other moron: Barry.

It's hard to distinguish between you people...being Bush sycophants...you ALL keep saying the same thing...over and over and over and over and over...

Actually...just like your little hero.

[Barry]

Cleo, try to use a portion of your brain.

NK is what it is because of what they do.

We are what we are because of what we do.

What we do in opposing the oppressors of freedom will not make us like them.

[SlimGuy]

t's hard to distinguish between you people...being Bush sycophants...you ALL keep saying the same thing...over and over and over and over and over...

Actually...just like your little hero.

Posted by: Tom | March 31, 2007 at 06:08 PM

Yeah..we all look alike.

Been to Selma Alabama lately?

[Barry]

So, tomdolton, was clinton wrong as well? Did he keep saying the same thing to?

Dumbass.

[Tom]

Barry,
George W. Bush created this huge "threat" by invading a sovereign nation...instead of tracking down the ringleader of the 9/11 attacks. Do you even remember his name??

Constantly bashing those who disagree or have changed their minds about strategies and tactics is the coward's way out.

Instead of calling me and others un-American or traitorous or being with the enemy...why not admit mistakes have been made and help plan a new strategy to rectify the situation?

We can't stay in Iraq forever, they're in the midst of a civil war that has NOTHING to do with US...it's THEIR country, THEIR problem...and I personally don't think we should sacrifice one more American life for the Iraqis or the Kurds.

Bush evidenly doesn't understand...but 70% of America does.

[SlimGuy]

Durn I still gotta read back to who tagged me with the Clinton reference which I never did do based on a text search.

Could a troll be wrong? I am shocked I tell you totally shocked.

My faith in trolls is forever compromised.

[SlimGuy]

Please Tom

Rush Limbaugh has parody threads better than that.

You are pathetic.

[Tom]

Barry,
Can you READ??????

Did Clinton INVADE Iraq????? (Even Bush Sr. kept us out of Baghdad...and do you know why? Because of what we're seeing right now.)

Yank your head out of little Georgie's ass for a few minutes and think about it.

[MikeS]

Why do conservatives sound alike?
It is because of the way they form their opinions. Republicans depend of facts and logic when forming opinion. Whereas Dems seem to rely on feelings, or esp, or baseless vitriol.

For example the Democrat”s starting point for any political discussion is “Bush lied”. This opening remark is demonstrably false. No reasonable person could possibly believe such mindless babble. Yet they continue to say it.

[PeterUK]

"*SPACES, you idiot. They go BETWEEN the words, etc. (Uh, you DO have a space bar on your keyboard...right?)"

As opposed to those like you and Septic who have spaces between their ears.
You two really are a disgrace to trolldom.

Nowfuckoffyoudumbbunnies.

[SlimGuy]

Tom

Kos kids is a blog, it is not a hair tonic or a diet, or a better spread then butter on your toast in the morning.

But carry on, it fits your image.

[Tom]

Slim,
Do you also having a problem reading English?

"Sorry, Slim...It was the other moron: Barry.

It's hard to distinguish between you people...being Bush sycophants...you ALL keep saying the same thing...over and over and over and over and over...

Actually...just like your little hero."
Tom | March 31, 2007 at 06:08 PM

[Barry]

"Did Clinton INVADE Iraq?????"

Yes, he did. Missliles and bombs.

Like I said, your a dumbass. You don't even know recent history, much less something more than 10 years old.

Dumbass

[Lady Sara]

The Christian victims of Iraq.

The West’s lack of interest in the fate of the Assyrians is disgusting, as you can read in this brilliant article by Ed West in the Catholic Herald. Here is how the piece starts:

“When they cook a dish in the Middle East, it is traditional to put the meat on top of the rice when they serve it. They kidnapped a woman’s baby in Baghdad, a toddler, and because the mother was unable to pay the ransom, they returned her child – beheaded, roasted and served on a mound of rice.

“The infant’s crime was to be an Assyrian, but this story, reported by the Barnabus Fund, went unnoticed in the West, like so many other horrific accounts of Christian persecution in Iraq. Since the invasion of Iraq, Muslim militants have bombed 28 churches and murdered hundreds of Christians. Last October, Islamists beheaded a priest in Mosul in revenge for the Pope’s remarks about Islam at Regensburg.”

But, hey it is all America's fault, no sadistic animals in Iraq or in the Muslim world. If we would just tuck our tails between our legs and boogy on out of there in shameful retreat, they will leave us alone.

Yeah right!

[Tom]

MikeS,
Geeee, thanks Mikey.

Everybody feels better now...you've explained everything.

P.S. PUKE, you've never told us why, when you're such a rabid supporter of little Georgie (very strange)...you're not in Iraq helping out.

Are you afraid?

[SlimGuy]

Tom taunts those who put his ass in his hat, how cute.

[MikeS]

I think things are going well in Iraq right now. Though I have been disappointed in the pace in Iraq, I agree with General Casey that we had been making progress even before the ‘surge’ began.

Most intelligent people have always realized that Iraq would be a decade long (or longer) commitment. After all we still have troops in Kosovo, Korea, and Germany many years after conflicts there.

[PeterUK]

"George W. Bush created this huge "threat" by invading a sovereign nation...instead of tracking down the ringleader of the 9/11 attacks. Do you even remember his name??"

Presumably tracking Osama bin Laden down in a "sovereign country"?

You know Tom DaltonMarkGarrity even shitforbrains is being generous to you.

[MikeS]

Everybody feels better now...you've explained everything.

Actually this was not news to most posters here.

[MikeS]

...when you're such a rabid supporter of little Georgie (very strange)...you're not in Iraq helping out.

W and the troops have Iraq handled. We're fighting back here.

[SlimGuy]

OBL and where he is at is the last drag the left can take on their bong hit.

Rush has parodies of that.

Oh well, what you see is what you get.

[SlimGuy]

I have to agree with others here

BETTER TROLLS PLEASE.

The current crop is so sad and pathetic.

[Lady Sara]

Tom: you are unAmerican, you are unpatriotic. You are a traitor. You are a terrorist sympathizer, you support sadism and animalistic behavior. And most of all you prove over and over that you are an ignorant, brutish, sexist, anti-semitic dumbass bigot coward.

[MikeS]

Don't sugar coat it Lady Sara. Tell him what you really think.

[Syl]

TOM

Up yours!

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Iraqi government raised the death toll on Saturday from a truck bomb in the town of Tal Afar to 152, making it the deadliest single bombing of the four-year-old war.

That's al Qaeda you douchebag!

We're capturing and killing al Qaeda in Iraq. So are the Iraqi's. So are some of the insurgents.

Let's stop killing al Qaeda. Let's move to kuwait and kill al qaeda from there---where we don't get any intelligence about who's in this house in talifar or that house in mosul?

al Qaeda is playing to the effen Democrats. They know the more attacks and the more spectacular the more likely we'll cut and run.

And the media just plays along.
As do you.

[PeterUK]

Sara,
Those are TomDaltonMarkGaritty's good points.

[PeterUK]

"BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Iraqi government raised the death toll on Saturday from a truck bomb in the town of Tal Afar to 152, making it the deadliest single bombing of the four-year-old war"

Those people had their death warrants signed
as soon as the Iraq Accountability Act was passed and a timetable set.

[Syl]

Tom

*You do know that there are more than 20,000,000 people in Iraq...right?

He FINALLY admits there are more people in Iraq than insurgents.

Woooooowie.

Pigs are flying, folks.

[Tom]

PUKE,
"Those people had their death warrants signed
as soon as the Iraq Accountability Act was passed and a timetable set."

Opposed to those who were killed BEFORE?

You are as dumb as a rock.

[Tom]

Syl,
Yes, it's because of the "media" we've seen all of this killing over the past 4+ years.

No, it's not the insurgents, not the Sunnis killing the Shiites, the Shiites killing the Sunnis...it's not really even a civil war...it's a "media war."

Duh.

[Syl]

tom

Al Qaeda plays to the media. THEY EVEN ADMIT IT.

And, NO, it's not a civil war. Even the Iraqis don't believe that shit.

[Lady Sara]

Tom says: "it's a "media war."

Wrong again! It is an anti-Bush media war."

[Tom]

Lazy Sara,
Are you upset?

Is PUKE ignoring you...has he been baaaaaaaaaad?

Can't you find a man who will love a right wing nutcase?

And for goodness sake, be careful...people of your age can have little blood vessels burst in their brains, no matter how tiny the brain may be...and that can cause real problems.

Without the ability to type, you won't be able to pass on valuable garbage about how great Georgie is or trash other Americans, calling them traitors because they disagree with your far right wing insanity.

But thank God you represent only 30% of America, because if there were more of you we'd all be in real trouble.

P.S. MikeS: "Actually this was not news to most posters here."

Well, of course not, you moron...EVERYBODY here, but for a few, are no more than Bushie sycophants, mouthing the same bullshit over and over and over and over again...trying to make each other feel better about being uninformed.

You didn't know that?

[Lady Sara]

Syl: Tom knows exactly what al Qaeda does with the media, he practices it every day.

[PeterUK]

"truck bomb in the town of Tal Afar to 152, making it the deadliest single bombing of the four-year-old war"

They have upped the ante,this has all the hallmarks of Hezbollah,Iran's suicide bombing faction.Still better to run away and leave Iran and al Qaeda to fight over Iraq,still you will know better when Pelosi gets back fro Damascus with her orders.

[Barry]

"Instead of calling me and others un-American or traitorous or being with the enemy...why not admit mistakes have been made and help plan a new strategy to rectify the situation?"

Ok, Tom, lets play. I'll start:

Destroy the terror regimes. We already took care of Iraq. Destroy Iran. That will solve the problem in Iraq and the problem with Iran.

[Tom]

Lazy Old Sara,
I didn't say it was a "media war," Slim implied it was.

See what I mean about age? Your reading skills are already waning.

P.S. Syl: "And, NO, it's not a civil war. Even the Iraqis don't believe that shit."

It's tough to get an accurate read on what the Iraqis think since most of them are afraid to step out of their houses, but here's what AMERICANS THINK according to a Harris Poll from the Wall Street Journal, March 30, 2007.

A majority of Americans think Iraq is in the midst of a civil war, a new Harris Interactive poll finds, and few are confident that Robert Gates's nomination as Secretary of Defense will improve the situation there.

Sixty-eight percent of U.S. adults said they believe there is a civil war in Iraq, the online poll from Nov. 13 to Nov. 20 found, compared with 14% who disagree and 18% who aren't sure.

YOU and the rest of the sycophants here appear to be in that rousing 14%...WOW!!

[boris]

You are as dumb as a rock

To those who don't want to fight terrorism and just want to hunker down and endure ...

WTF do you care if those of us are willing to fight?

So willing to put up with terrorism why so unwilling to allow OTHERS willing to fight it? Hmmm? The tolerance for terrorism but not for fighting it is a little too revealing.

[boris]

adults said they believe there is a civil war

The people who've been there and know better are going to be a bit of a problem for back stabbing cut n runners down the road.

[Tom]

Barry,
"We already took care of Iraq"??????????"
(Are we talking about the Iraq in the mideast?)

And now we should just..."destroy Iran???"
(How?)

DUH.

[PeterUK]

Sara,
If TomDaltonMarkGaritty's brains were made of Semtex there wouldn't be enough to blow his wig off.By the look of his increasingly demented and incoherent posts,he is hitting the bottle,always does,just ends up gibbering and foaming at the mouth.
He is too stupid to play games like the media,he is simple a depraved creature.

[Tom]

BORIS,
If you're soooooooo willing to FIGHT...like your chickenhawk buddy PUKE...why aren't the two of you in Iraq? The military will take you, they're taking damn near anybody right now...soooooooooo get your asses over there and help out.

Talk is cheap...but you already know that, don't you?

[Tom]

PUKE,
You just don't understand that S-P-A-C-E thing do you?

*Hey, I just thought of something: Maybe you've got wool stuck in your keyboard. You're not letting your "girls" sit on the computer are you?

[boris]

Already did the Nam thing Mr Too Busy To Go.

Support for those who fight in our defense are no more obligated to volunteer than the opposition is obligated to volunteer to be victims of terrorism. Those of us who serve or have served welcome that support and resent the opposition's derision of that support. The chickenhawk argument attempts to create a double standard, that opposition is noble and support is not.

Opposition is fine, but making the chickenhawk argument is craven and despicable

[PeterUK]

"Are we talking about the Iraq in the mideast?)"

Yes, just sail up the Persian Gulf,turn left at the top. Ask the purser to drop you off at Basra.

[Barry]

Iraq is no longer a threat to the world.

So, you make an offer but you can't deliver.

/normal

Dumbass. Anti American Dumbass.

[Lady Sara]

I would much rather be a mighty chickenhawk than a dumbass chickenshit like you Tom and each of your multiple personalities.

[MikeS]

Sixty-eight percent of U.S. adults said they believe there is a civil war in Iraq

So why do U.S. adults think things in Iraq are worse that Iraqis think?

Could it be that Iraqis aren't subjected to al Qaeda propaganda via Cindy Sheehan and TomDaltonWhoever?

[boris]

After Pearl Harbor and 911 it should be obvious that it is not only military people at risk from enemies and hence there is no rational basis for a double standard.

The military acts on everyone's behalf just as police and firefighters do. Those of us who serve or have served bestow no more freedom of expression to critics of service than to supporters. If there were to be a double standard, we would grant it in the other direction.

Sorry but "I shoulda coulda woulda served" counts for nothing. Just gets freedom of expression same as EVERYBODY ELSE.

Want me to STFU? Lets meet.

[Syl]

Tom

You're an idiot:

Sixty-eight percent of U.S. adults said they believe there is a civil war in Iraq, the online poll from Nov. 13 to Nov. 20 found, compared with 14% who disagree and 18% who aren't sure.

And just WHY would the American people think that? Like you THEY'RE NOT IN IRAQ. They don't read milblogs. They don't follow operations. They don't read CentCom.

All the news they hear is from the screaming Democrats and the media. And the poor widdle journalists stuck in the Green Zone DON'T KNOW SQUAT either---but they sure pretend they do!

And BACK in NOV there were problems with militias that were POUNDED into the eyes and ears of every single American BECAUSE OF THE ELECTION.

And what do you think al jazeera was saying at the same time? DOH.

[MikeS]

..soooooooooo get your asses over there and help out.

Cut the crap Tom. The free world needs these folk to help fight the enemy on the media front.

[PeterUK]

"You just don't understand that S-P-A-C-E thing do you?"

Of course I do TomDaltonMarkGarrity,it is the area between your ears.

"Sixty-eight percent of U.S. adults said they believe there is a civil war in Iraq, the online poll from Nov. 13 to Nov. 20 found, compared with 14% who disagree and 18% who aren't sure."

Yes,numbers of people believing in something makes it true.The majority of us here think you are intellectually challenged,but in this case it is true,we have the evidence before our eyes.

[Syl]

..soooooooooo get your asses over there and help out.

Yes, you should. The open markets in Sadr City could use a few more hot dog stands (beef only, please).

[PeterUK]

Boris
"the Nam thing Mr Too Busy To Go"
TomDaltonMarkGarrity started running from the draft,hasn't stopped since,he is about 52 now.He sometimes pretends to be a recruiting sergeant in colleges to force young Republicans to enlist,Operation Yellow Elephant.

[Tom]

Based on the latest polling from Newsweek, Time, Pew, USA, Gallup, CBS...you people are about as far out of whack as a group could possibly be. I realize it doesn't actually take brains to be a full fledged, secret de-coder ring carrying Bush sycophant, and it's easy to cal those who do not agree traitors, etc., but these numbers should at least make a few of you who might want to think about opening your eyes to the obvious...OPEN YOUR EYES:

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?"
3/15-29/07
Approve Disapprove
28 % 69%

"Do you support or oppose the legislation passed this week by the U.S. Senate calling for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by March 2008?"
Approve Disapprove
57% 36%
"Do you think the United States should or should not set a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq that would have MOST troops out by September 2008?"
Approve Disapprove
59% 37%

"Would you favor or oppose Congress taking each of the following actions in regards to the war in Iraq?

"Setting a time-table for withdrawing all U.S. troops from Iraq no later than the fall of 2008"
60% Favor 38% Oppose

Hey, but maybe somebody can dredge up a Fox, or Sean or Rush or Bill or even a Ann-The Walking-Talking-Trash-Barrel Poll to refute these major polling organizations.

[Tom]

PUKE,
Those were numbers from AMERICANS.

You're not an AMERICAN so fuck off.

[Lady Sara]

You are no American either Tom.

[Barry]

Tom your still just a dumbass.

[MikeS]

Based on the latest polling...

Tom see if you can reach up and grab this as it passes over your head.

By your jihadist logic when 70% of the population supported the war it was the right thing to do. Now however,we should leave Iraq because the polls say so.

[PeterUK]

TomDaltonMarkGarrity,You are not fit to be an American.
Go to Iraq make atonement for your cowardice over Vietnam,it isn't too late,you aren't too old,they might waive the psychological tests.Do it man,for your own sake,you cannot keep running for the rest of your miserable life.

[Syl]

Tom can't win an argument so he turns to politics via polls.

LOSER

[MikeS]

Ott explains Sampson

Has everyone already read ScrappleFace?

[Tom]

Old Lady Sara,
I'm hurt, I really am.

Barry,
I'm sad you feel that way...I thought we were growing close.

PUKE,
Talk is cheap...yapping about how AMERICA should defend the world is hollow when you yourself are gutless...and blow that damn wool out of your mouth and keyboard.

*I notice no one refutes the way a majority of REAL AMERICANS feel. (It's tough being losers.)

[MikeS]

...a majority of REAL AMERICANS feel.

I keep trying to tell you. On this blog it's not about FEELING it's about THINKING!

[Tom]

MikeS,
You mean "sinking."

[Barry]

The majority of Americans thought slavery was OK at one time. The majority thought the Iraq war was the right thing at one time.

The majority have always despised the tomdaltons. Still do. Always will.

Dumbass

[MikeS]

Think about this for a moment. The poster Tom's primary objective for Iraq is to get U.S. troops out. The primary objective of al Qaeda for Iraq is exactly the same as Tom's.

How can that be?

[Lady Sara]

Old Lady Sara,
I'm hurt, I really am.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah, poor widdle baby. Should we call your Mommie to kiss away your booboos?

[Barry]

tom = al qaeda

[PeterUK]

"Talk is cheap...yapping about how AMERICA should defend the world is hollow when you yourself are gutless.."

We know Mark,your's is the cheapest talk in town.
Not should Mark,America either does or it doesn't,but imbeciles like you don't understand the consequences of doing nothing.

Gutless Mark,you are the one who pulled up his skirt and ran screaming from the draft,though what the Canadians did to deserve you God knows.

Now suck it up like a good brave boy,go to Iraq,you could help those wounded Iraqis you care so much about.

You could even step on a mine,make us all proud of you.

[PeterUK]

"tom = al qaeda"

No, he applied,when the asked him "Do you think you could kill a man",he replied "Eventually".

[Lady Sara]

President Bush spoke out in support of Great Britain today calling for the release of 15 British sailors and marines being held by Iran. Bush said their capture by Tehran "inexcusable behavior."

The action by Bush was unlike the House democrats who refused to support Great Britain saying, quote, "Inserting Congress into an international crisis while ongoing would not be helpful."
The House democratic leadership is currently off to Syria to "insert itself into an international crisis."
Meanwhile... Iran said today that the guilty British sailors and marines may be brought to trial and punished!

[Barry]

Hate to point it out Sara, but Bush's words have about as much effect as congress's lack of them.

[Lady Sara]

Barry, you speak for the Brits now, do you?

[Barry]

I speak for myself Sara. Iran could care less what Bush or the US congress says. They have no fear of him, or us. Perhaps they are wrong. I sincerely hope so.

[Tom]

Barry,
Slavery is your best argument? How many people in 1860 knew how to read, had access to news, TV and the internet to get information? DUMB.

PUKE, YOU served in Vietnam?? BULLSHIT.

Old Sara, Whining won't make you any younger.

MikeS, So does 70% of America. DUMB-ASS.

[Barry]

Speaking of reading ability, dumbass. Where do you find PUK saying he served in 'nam?

dumbass

[Syl]

tom

How many people in 1860 knew how to read

You'd be surprised. I guess you need to learn American History.

The founding fathers knew all about how the American public could go bananas over an issue and get it wrong. That's why it takes more than a simple majority to override a veto.

dumbass