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April 23, 2007

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Jeff Dobbs

Well, we're certainly glad to hear from you, glad to know no harm has befallen you -- but most importantly, glad for a new thread!

Wait, those got out of sequence somehow?

Jeff Dobbs

I blame Bush.

Rick Ballard

He lives!

Those who 'enjoy' examining the ineluctable result obtained by mixing the blind ignorance of progressive 'thought' with the self-preening selfishness of libertarianism carried to its logical conclusion will enjoy todays editorial by Jonathan Kellerman in the Wall Street Journal.

Other Tom

Mornin', H&R--and everyone.

Beautiful hit piece in the Chicago Sun-Times on B. Hussein Obama. Corrupt and cynical to the very core. Hillary will be on this like white on rice.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article

clarice

On it? She wrote it. Or Sid did.

Cecilia, that was very good!

Jeff Dobbs

Good morning OT...

A slight alteration of your sentence? ...appropriate?

Hillary will be on *was behind* this like white on rice.

I am cynical!

Jane

It's fun to watch the democrats eat their own. Isn't Hillary from Chicago?

Cecelia

Thank you, Clarice.

I considered doing something about kerchiefs and mammies to go with the NYT's artful characterization of Hillary's "housekeeping imagery" at a speech before Al Sharpton's organization, but I don't want to lose my gig at MSNBC...

clarice

Suburban Chicago area, Jane.
Cecilia you do sound familiar but certainly you must not be--or everyone would recognize your style here.

Rick Ballard

Sometimes a new voice appears from nowhere... even from the wood[s] of Missouri.

Jeff Dobbs

As a co-mocker of John Edwards, I have to say, perhaps this is a bit unfair...

Hedge Fund John

John Edwards, man of the people, turns out to be also a man of the hedge funds. John Solomon and Alec MacGillis, writing in the Washington Post, expose his ties to one of those bastions of the wealthy, avoiding taxes by offshore registration, and earning high investment returns through trading tactics unavailable to the small guys

I mean, the man needs to generate the income necessary to afford things like $400 haircuts.

I mean, now that he's been caught and can't simply have his campaign pay for them.

clarice

Ah, It does sound like Leonard, doesn't it?

gmax

I want to know the firm that sold the DNC the carbon credits for the volcano? Its the only way I can think of that a soot and fire belching volcano can be described as "green" so I want to know where the credits came from. Imus in effigy is not quite a credit...

Other Tom

I missed something. What was it that Cecilia posted? I found a couple of references on the long Friday thread, and one here, but I don't know what started it all.

Jeff Dobbs

New Landis story...

Report: Follow-up tests positive on Landis samples April 23, 2007

PARIS (AP) -- Follow-up tests on backup urine samples by Tour de France champion Floyd Landis found traces of synthetic testosterone, the French sports newspaper L'Equipe reported Monday.

The tests on seven "B" samples clearly showed traces of the banned substance, the paper said on its Web site. Landis had insisted the follow-up tests weren't necessary because the primary "A" samples tested negative for banned substances during the Tour.


maryrose

The reason the mortality rates are up for infants is that the malpractice insurance is driving all the good OB/GYN's out of the southern states. These same ambulance chasing malpracticing lawsuit lawyers that are supporting John Edwards are contributing to the good healthcare dilemma.

Cecelia

Clarice, OMG! I have style out the wazoo!

However, I'm new here.

clarice

You sound an awful lot like a thread favorite who's bound and gagged in basic training, Cecilia.

clarice

OT, See open thread Friday .

lurker9876

Clarice, how did your interview with Rick Moran go? Ed Morrissey had Patrick Frey on his blog show and neither of them support Gonzales. Ed seems to think that the Democrats will continue to go after Gonzales and Karl Rove, even if Gonzales stays. He reports that Newsweek has several articles up about Gonzales. Newsweek also reports that Bush had dug his feet in to back Gonzales. And Gonzales told the Democrats that the burden of proof is on their part. Sounds like Gonzales is going to stay at least for awhile. Good for both of them.

Cecelia

gmax:

Who's the buyer and who's the seller?

clarice

lurker--it was postponed until this afternoon. I think it will be on air on Tues. I think it is not strategic for Gonzales to resign. I think this game where you level false accusations against an official, they are eventually proven w/o foundation and then you yammer that he should nevertheless, resign, because he has been weakened by the scandal is no more than a grifter's trick.
And as you know I belong to neither the Hair on Fire Club (bush has to do everything I prefer or we're doomed) nor the Clean toga club (someone has accused an ally and we have to throw him to the dogs lest we get bespattered).

maryrose

clarice:
I agree totally with you regarding Gonzales. If we had to have a full term of Janet Reno then Fredo finishing out his is just fine.At least he is loyal to President Bush, unlike Powell and Armitage.

clarice

Taranto:
"Kerry, meanwhile, isn't letting grass grow under his feet. Yesterday he sent an email to supporters that began as follows:

A quick note from me to you on this Earth Day[**]--a day on, not a day off as they say.

Earth Day brought me into activism in the first place--and I still find it empowering because it's not a day for the politicians, it's a day that began to pressure the politicians--a day that was built from the ground up.

That's funny, the day before yesterday wasn't it Vietnam that brought Kerry into activism in the first place?"

clarice

Actually, I thiught it was Cambodia that was "seared,seared " into his memory.

PeterUK.

Clarice,
Every day is Earth Day for a clod.

glasater

According to CNBC, Wolfowitz is under tremendous pressure to resign.
Another travesty to add to a monstrous pile.

Barry

It was Earthday in Vietnam I guess.

Memomachine

Hmmmm.

@ clarice

Kerry, meanwhile, isn't letting grass grow under his feet. Yesterday he sent an email to supporters that began as follows:

John Kerry has supporters?

Who? The Sleestaks from Land of the Lost?

cathyf

Just a minor note, clarice, you are subconsciously correcting the spelling on "Cecilia." Our new poster "Cecelia" uses the version that everyone tries to mispell my daughter's name as.

Jane

That's funny, the day before yesterday wasn't it Vietnam that brought Kerry into activism in the first place?"

Wasn't the first Earth Day in maybe '71? I spent it at Central Park as I recall.

Sara

Boris Yeltsin, Russia’s First Post-Soviet Leader, Is Dead

MOSCOW (NY TIMES) - April 23, 2007 10:12 EDT

Specter

clarice,

Thanks for the h/t at AT, but I must defer and correct some information. Somewhere in the thread where I posted the data I gave the link to the aggregators of that data. The Clinton Legacy

I hope you can add a mention of them in the article.

clarice

Posted on wrong thread:

Thanks, Specter. I didn't see the reference and will ask the editor to attach an addendum

Daddy

Hmmm,
Yankees's are out of town for a series or 2, and TM disappears. Penstripers return to the Big Apple for a home stand, and voila, TM's back.
"Some are saying" that TM has been hired by Steinbrenner to help find Mario Riviera's mojo.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible Watson, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

clarice

There is a really good book on Iraq by one of the Allawis out and the thesis is that while we made some mistakes, Iraq was about to implode before we invaded which would hace required our intervention anyway but under even worse, more difficult circumstances. Chris Hitchens reviews it here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2164824/

Jane

Yankees's are out of town for a series or 2

Yankees lost 3 in a row to the Red Sox this weekend.

Who's your Daddy now?

topsecretk9

{Reid] Says Iraqi children 'bed wetting, stuttering'...

Jiminy, when is this going to go live?

Daddy

Exactly my point Jane,

What could keep TM from starting a new thread on Saturday or Sunday, except for the misery of sitting in the Fenway Bleacher's watching Yankee fastballs being crushed over the Big Green Monster, then staring morosely into the stale Sam Adam's dregs in the bottom of a plastic cup. I mean, what the hell would be the point. "Holy crap, Now they're stickin' in Petit for middle refief?...'Ah screw it, let 'em post on Friday's thread."

God Bless Baseball Season. Go Oakland!

gmax

Who can pay attention to regular season baseball when the NBA playoff are out of the gate? And both the Spurs and Mavericks knock off on game 1 by vile low ranked pretenders? Its a villainous thing I say. Bring on game 2.

Daddy

Gmax
Did the Maverick's stink or what. And whipped by Golden State? PeeYew.

Specter

Thanks clarice. Credit where credit is due and all that.

gmax

Yeah I am a Spurs fan but they stunk it up too. I am sure all my kids are major league pissed off that Dirk managed to lay another egg. Last five playoff games = zero wins for the Mavs. Not really going to make Mark Cuban dance and sing.

topsecretk9

Laurie David and Sheryl Crow -- big fat liars on many fronts

[Byron York] I just got an eyewitness account of the Karl Rove-Laurie David-Sheryl Crow encounter at the White House Correspondents Dinner Saturday night, and it suggests that David and Crow were a bit more confrontational than they portrayed themselves in their own account of the incident, published in the Huffington Post. ...

In the eyewitness' version, again, David and Crow are a bit more aggressive than their own story suggests. The eyewitness says David told Rove, You need to bring in new people to tell you the truth. Rove mentioned Dr. John Marburger, the White House science advisor. At that point, according to the eyewitness, Crow began poking Rove's chest with her finger, demanding to know what corporations were underwriting Marburger's work. Rove said Marburger had been in academia most of his career.

With Crow jabbing him in the chest, Rove turned to take his seat. Then, the witness says, Crow grabbed his arm. A few more words were exchanged, and it was over.

And THIS is a "read the whole thing, must read"...(Newsbuster on David/Crow Global Tour interview on CNBC H/T spongeworthy)

Kernen continued to press the issue:
Are we sure it has nothing to do with cosmic rays or sun spot activity or volcanoes? The footprint of humans for CO2 is apparently fairly small compared to volcanoes.

What was David’s response? Incredibly:

You know what? I urge you to see “An Inconvenient Truth” ’cause Al Gore answers all these questions beautifully in the movie. It’s the reason why this movie has had such a big impact. And I urge you and all of your viewers to watch it....

...How delicious. Of course, here’s the really inconvenient truth that Crow and David will likely also blow off as they ignore all opinions different from their own. CNBC did a poll after the interview, and published the results at its website (emphasis added): “About 80% of viewer responses sided with Kernen, many referencing the indignation that Crow and David expressed at having to answer questions about the global warming debate.”

gmax

To be fair to the Mavs ( if I were inclined to be ) I would point out that Don Nelson is suing Cuban as he alleges that Cuban is not paying off on some deferred compensation. And therefore Don has more than a little desire to both insert the knife and then twirl it.

And Golden State finished 9-1 the last ten games of the regular season. So they are hot right now. But I think Charles Barley is right. When you win the most games in the regular season ( a la Mavs) you dont change the line up you did that with for the Warriors. Instead you make the Warriors play your game, and as Sir Charles pointed out, that would be hard for a bunch of midgets to do! The man has a way with non pc banter.

clarice

Makes one wish for the good old days when arm candy wives like Laurie David had discrete affairs with the gardeners and pool boys instead of using their husbands' fame and fortune to dictate to the world how it should live.

topsecretk9

instead of using their husbands' fame and fortune to dictate to the world how it should live.

Be nice if she not only practiced what she preaches but you know like UNDERSTOOD or was able to answer a question about her preachery.

She produced the damn movie and she can't even answer a straight question let alone quote from it.

Jeff Dobbs

Mavericks Lost.

I Blame Bush.

(actually, I take full blame. Of the Mavericks losses this season, I probably watched half of them. And of the games I watched, they probably lost all but two of them. I have vowed to watch no more Mavs playoff games until they are up 2-0 in the finals...no, wait....yikes. uh, well. uh, er. crap)

I take it all back.

I Blame Bush.

Jeff Dobbs

Clarice:
Makes one wish for the good old days when arm candy wives like Laurie David had discrete affairs with the gardeners and pool boys


Well, that explains it. I spent all day yesterday on the yard...10 cu yds of bark mulch to spread. And I just got in from planting our flower garden.

All that time and no arm candy wives even so much as cast their gaze upon me.

I Blame Bush.

topsecretk9

I think THIS is what Drudge is referring to:

WASHINGTON, April 23 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid delivered the following speech today at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.


-- 70% of Iraqi children are suffering from trauma like nightmares, bedwetting, stuttering and fear -- that some say could paralyze an entire generation that we had been counting on to harvest the seeds of democracy.

PeterUK.

It would have be nice of Laurie David to explain she is the co-producer of of An Inconvenient Truth. The film is selling well,I believe.

topsecretk9

WAPO said

He spoke after Reid, the Senate's top Democrat, released excerpts from a speech today in which he calls on Bush to abandon his threat to veto the war funding bill and negotiate a compromise. Reid delivered the speech on the war in Iraq at the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Scholars in Washington at midday.

The link above is the entire speech -- not excerpts he likes - might be worth while to read the whole thing...

clarice

I did a little planting and thenleft the rest for another day--don't want to put too much carbon in the air all at once. I, too, blame Bush for your plight h & r. There can't possibly be another explanation.

Jeff Dobbs

That's several million haircuts at least.

John Edwards: I'd invest billions in Michigan
April 22, 2007

BY KATHLEEN GRAY

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER



Maybe he's thinking of the Pretty Lady Salon?

Goof

But I think Charles Barley is right. When you win the most games in the regular season ( a la Mavs) you dont change the line up you did that with for the Warriors. Instead you make the Warriors play your game, and as Sir Charles pointed out, that would be hard for a bunch of midgets to do! The man has a way with non pc banter.

TNT's in-studio NBA Playoffs coverage is, in my opinion, the best live programming on television year in and year out.

The Warriors haven't lost to the Mavs this year so I'm not sure that Avery wasn't trying to suggest to his team that they need to take the Warriors seriously. Didn't work.

At the moment, I'm hoping Denver wins the required 16 as I'd like to see AI get a ring.

clarice

Yes--as the auto industry sinks into the horizon, Michiganers retool and retrain to take on the spa business. That's the ticket.

PeterUK.

Sheryl Crow wants to take your toilet paper.It's OK for her she can use money.

topsecretk9

Gee, in just the minute:

Reid: In that historic report, you and former Secretary of State Jim Baker ...But just weeks after that report -- President Bush ignored the call for bipartisan cooperation.

He went in the opposite direction -- and he went alone -- by ordering his troop surge - a plan that ignored the advice of the Iraq Study Group,ignored the will of the people, and dismissed the advice of many of his own generals.

WAPO- A Path to Common Ground
The Iraq Study Group Plan Could Break the Logjam- By James A. Baker III
Thursday, April 5, 2007

Nothing has happened since the report was released that would justify changing that view. Setting a deadline for withdrawal regardless of conditions in Iraq makes even less sense today because there is evidence that the temporary surge is reducing the level of violence in Baghdad. As Baghdad goes, so goes Iraq. The Iraq Study Group said it could support a short-term surge to stabilize Baghdad or to speed up training and equipping of Iraqi soldiers if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines such steps would be effective. Gen. David Petraeus has so determined.


"If it's for a surge, that is, for two or three months and it's part of a program to get us out of there as indicated by this time next year, then, sure, I'll go along with it," Reid said on ABC's "This Week" on Dec. 17.

Reid also used another qualifier, saying: "If the commanders on the ground said this is just for a short period of time, we'll go along with that."

Jeff Dobbs

PUK:
Sheryl Crow wants to take your toilet paper.

Raises the Elaine Benes question, of course...


PeterUK.

A good job Sheryl Crow only uses birch bark to make her CDs,how many has she sold?

PeterUK.

H&R,
I just hope these people are serious about recycling.

Jeff Dobbs

Laurie David's Been Here (language warning)

Jeff Dobbs

oops, sheryl, of course, though i suppose laurie feels the same way...

Jeff Dobbs

Word on the street is that Lance Armstrong is a 37 square per sitting user and would not compromise on his needs.

All rumor at this point...

PeterUK.

H&R,
These people have people who do that kind of thing for them.

Jeff Dobbs

I still say, take all the plastic grocery bags that will no longer be in use in San Fran, and use them to wipe. Then you can wash them and reuse.

It's the "Wipe-Rinse-Repeat" Plan to Save the World from Global Warming.

gmax

Don Surber has wrote a classic that I am sure Wierd Al Yankovic will soon be making money off of, to wit:

All I wanna do is wipe my bum
I got a feeling I’m not the only one
All I wanna do is wipe my bum
Until the TP comes off the roll by the yard

PeterUK.

H&R,
I don't think the go in San Francisco.This is the only clue,

"If you go in San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you in San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there"

Pretty slim I agree.

Jeff Dobbs

Someone else can and should do a better job....but given limited time and resources...and wanting to be first....here we have the...

Sheryl Crow Toilet Paper Roll
One square is all you'll need

Maybeex

Thanks for the Byron York/Sheryl Crow leak.

You could just tell Crow was afraid the story of her touching Rove was going to be the story that came out of their encounter. Otherwise, why would she and David have published that stupid "what's wrong with him that he doesn't want to be touched by Sheryl Crow" story?

I was disappointed when the WaPo reporter was on CNN yesterday and changed the part of Crow touching Rove to Crow 'trying to smooth things over'.

Rick Ballard

"Sheryl Crow wants to take your toilet paper."

Peter,

Did she leave an address where it can be sent? I'm sure that everyone would be willing to save it up and mail it to her. Doesn't sound very hygienic though - and I'll bet the mail carriers will raise a stink...

-- 70% of Iraqi children are suffering from trauma like nightmares, bedwetting, stuttering and fear -- that some say could paralyze an entire generation that we had been counting on to harvest the seeds of democracy.

Wow - what a typo!

-- 70% of the Democratic caucus are suffering from trauma like nightmares, bedwetting, stuttering and fear -- that some say could paralyze an entire generation that we had been counting on to harvest the seeds of democracy.

There - all fixed.

PeterUK.

Sheryl Crow sparksTP protests

Maybeex

heh.

You know, I do believe climate change is happening. But the more I see the silliness of the leading lights, the more I realize An Inconvenient Truth was just a campaign commercial. This whole push is nothing but rich liberals trying to get Dems in office. Look at the players.

ps. The Davids were the ones that convinced RFK Jr to write that risible election fraud piece in Rolling Stone.

PeterUK.

Rick,
Just send it to her fan club,I'm sure they will forward it as soon as possible,if not sooner.

Jeff Dobbs

Yeah, but I must admit, Sheryl is hot when in one square demonstration mode.

Jeff Dobbs

Do NOT click on this one.

First promo shot of the One Square Is All You Need campaign.

***Content Warning***

Terms of Agreement: By clicking on the link above, you agree that you are over 18 years of age and are not offended by crude potty humor and crass language.

Maybeex

oooh maaaan, h&r.

Syl

Those who 'enjoy' examining the ineluctable result obtained by mixing the blind ignorance of progressive 'thought' with the self-preening selfishness of libertarianism carried to its logical conclusion will enjoy todays editorial by Jonathan Kellerman in the Wall Street Journal.

You left out the 'scrooge' fiscal conservatives. He blames them too.

Excellent article, btw. Kellerman is one of very few authors I read religiously. I've just started 'Gone' and will read his latest 'Obsession' when it comes out in paperback. I've read ALL the others. To say he is one of my favorite authors is an understatement.

Specter

Rooters Reports:

Scott Foresman - Reporter
April 23, 2007
As more and more people are forced into compliance with the National One Sheet Act, the results are dubious. Deforestation continues in the Amazon region, yet at a slower rate. One must understand that the South American economy is not based on wood exports for paper products, but on clearing ground for more coca production.

However, in the latest news, there appears to be a rather large spike in the release of Chlorine Bleach products into the sewage systems of America. Those products, and their derivatives and now leeching into the ground water tables and causing a surge in infant mortality rates in New Jersey, and maybe some other states.

The Crow Replaceable Environmental Thinktank In New Stanton(CRETINS), blames has identified that the base cause of this new environmental disaster is related to soiled undergarments. Reacting quickly to the impending disaster, CRETINS now suggests moving to disposable undergarments made from Russian Pine or plastic bags from San Francisco.

Developing.

Syl

re the Kellerman piece. I've often wondered who was responsible for closing the mental institutions and all that has ensued from that and I wondered why nobody on the right seems to ever bring it up. In fact, after VaTech, the only griping I hear from either side concerns gun control--not the heart of the matter which is that there was nothing that really could have been done about cho beforehand.

Now I know the whole breakdown in how we as a society handle those with severe mental problems was a bipartisan effort. Everybody shares the blame.

I really think ALL the legislation passed by Congress should sunset and ALL should be revisited again after the consequences have had a chance to show themselves.

Sure, all legislation can be tweaked later, but without specific deadlines for doing so the to-do list just grows and grows.

TexasIsHeaven

From the expression that Harry Reid constantly has on his face it is obvious that he uses nothing but corn cobs to wipe his ass.

PeterUK.

SCAM proudly announces its new process for recycling Rock Stars into Sanitary Products.The new Moby Twin Perforated is set to revolutionise the market.

Sara

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Author, Journalist David Halberstam Killed in Car Crash

clarice

That's sad, Sara. His brother was killed by a murderer. Two accomplished brothers both killed.

cathyf
I really think ALL the legislation passed by Congress should sunset and ALL should be revisited again after the consequences have had a chance to show themselves.
Insane asylums have never been federal operations -- they've always been strictly state responsibilities. I can't find any statistics now, but I remember reading somewhere that in the early 20th century the operation of mental hospitals and TB sanitariums consumed something like 80% of the typical state budget. In recent times states have wearhoused impoverished mental patients in nursing homes as a scam to get the federal government to pay for half -- medicaid has always been 50-50 state and federal, while mental health care has always been 100% state. In IL there were several cases about 20-25 years ago where the young mentally ill patients were housed in nursing homes with frail elderly people, and committing violent crimes (rapes and murders.) So then the state segregated the mentally ill patients in a few institutions that they still called "nursing homes" but were really functioning (reasonably well) as mental hospitals. Until the feds started refusing to pay the medicaid bills because they claimed (correctly) that these were really mental hospitals not nursing homes. So then they stopped providing any services in those places that were not nursing home functions. Talk about the law of unintended consequences...
Maybeex

I really think ALL the legislation passed by Congress should sunset and ALL should be revisited again after the consequences have had a chance to show themselves.

Absolutely.

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