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April 04, 2007

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PeterUK

STRICTLY NO SPAMMING SFERRIS.

hit and run

I need the keys, Tom, the keys.

Jane

Good Morning guys!

Hey PUK, what is the mood over there in terms of the hostages? Do people think that Iran has a point? Are they looking to negotiate with Ahmadinnerjacket? Are they blaming America? Is there any resolve to actually go on offense?

abe

TM, the WSJ is digging into Fitz again: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117565391510059281.html?mod=hps_us_at_glance_opinion

hit and run

From Stephen Spruill on the Media Blog over at NRO. He had gotten an email from a truther upset at Spruill's treatment of Rosie O'Donnell. So Spruill sent this email back...

Priceless.

It seems I'm not telling you anything you don't already know when I say that my editors and I — indeed, the entire Right — are afraid of the truth about 9/11 for one simple reason: We helped Bush and Cheney plan
the attacks. A full, non-partisan study, as opposed to the sham 9/11 Commission report, would implicate me and a long list of other conservative pundits (Goldberg, Will, even little Ben Shapiro) in the controlled demolition that brought down the twin towers and the Oscar-Meyer Weinermobile filled with explosives (that's right — look closer) that we paid some homeless guy to ram into the side of the Pentagon.

Why did we do it? Oil. Cheney promised us a cut of Halliburton's profits from its no-bid contracts in Iraq, so we all worked together on 9/11 to give Bush an excuse to start the war he was planning all along. Naturally, the American sheeple took the bait, and now I can afford the things I've always wanted, like a Hummer made of solid gold and trips to outer space with N'Sync's Lance Bass.

Why am I telling you all this? Simple. By sending me this e-mail, I'm afraid you signed your own ticket to Guantanamo Bay. Thanks to the Patriot Act, a secret 9/11 Cover-Up Team deep within the bowels of the
FBI automatically receives a high-priority alert anytime someone sends an e-mail containing the words "AFRAID", "NON-PARTISAN" and "LIED" in all caps; it's a clear sign that the sender has learned the truth about 9/11.

So you see, I can tell you all about my involvement in 9/11 because by the time you get this e-mail, the 9/11 Cover-Up Team (911-CUT) will already be knocking on your door.

Pity. I thought someone as clever as you would have figured out the FBI's keyword algorithm a long time ago.

Stephen

Jane

Abe,

Can you put a space in that link so the whole thing stays on the page? Thanks

lurker

Guys, AJSTrata suggests that we flood the Democrats' inbox with "Fund our Troops, Fund out Troops!!". Go check his site.

Jane, looks like those 4 detained Iranians are being traded for those 15 Brits.

Geesch. Hope Britain will learn to protect their military after this!

hit and run

Don't forget "white flag" republicans. The effort in theory should be more effective on them...

lurker

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

Flood those inboxes.

What recent Republican defections is Reid referring to?

lurker

Assad assured Pelosi of peace talks with Israel???

Ohlmert told Pelosi that he welcomes peace talks provided that Syria no longer supports hardlined terrorists.

Won't work.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_pelosi

hit and run

Abe's link on OpinionJournal

Fitzgerald's Cover-Up It's time to hold the special prosecutor accountable.

Wednesday, April 4, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT

For a prosecutor who claims to be a truth-seeker, Patrick Fitzgerald sure can be secretive. Even now that the Scooter Libby trial is over and his "leak" investigation is all but closed, the unaccountable special counsel wants to keep his arguments for creating a Constitutional showdown over reporters and their sources under lock and key.

lurker

The Truth was Massacred: A Clear-Eyed View of Haditha

Nothing like what Murtha said! Did Murtha commit sedition with his comments?

Who are the White Dog Republicans? Time to do another petition!

hit and run

White Flag Republicans

The 17 repubs from the house and 7 from the senate that voted for the respective democratic funding bills for the war.

Sue

H&R,

Are you Spruill? Because that sounds amazingly like one of your posts. Great Stuff!!!!!!

::grin::

SlimGuy

Drudge says British hostages to be released.

azaghal

Money quote from WSJ:

In his reply to the DJ-AP motion, Mr. Fitzgerald tries to hide behind rule 6(e) of grand jury secrecy. He claims the integrity of grand juries will be compromised by the release. But much of the material was already disclosed during the Libby trial, if not leaked earlier. And the far larger risk to grand jury integrity would be if Mr. Fitzgerald misled the courts about what he knew and when he knew it in order to coerce the two reporters to testify.

As a "special counsel" appointed by his good friend and former Deputy Attorney General James Comey, Mr. Fitzgerald operated essentially without Justice Department supervision. He once said himself that he "serve[d] as the functional equivalent of the Attorney General." Now he wants the D.C. Circuit to give him a free pass as well.

The Dow Jones-AP request is about holding Mr. Fitzgerald accountable for what he told the courts. If it is the same as what he told the public, then the prosecutor should have nothing to fear from the release of the affidavits or Judge Tatel's redacted opinion.

Other Tom

Excerpt from current WF Buckley column on the new religion of global warming:

"The whole business is eerily religious in feel. Back in the 15th century, the question was: Do you believe in Christ? It was required in Spain by the Inquisition that the answer should be affirmative, leaving to one side subsidiary specifications.

"It is required today to believe that carbon-dioxide emissions threaten the basic ecological balance. The assumption then is that inasmuch as a large proportion of the damage is man-made, man-made solutions are necessary. But it is easy to see, right away, that there is a problem in devising appropriate solutions, and in allocating responsibility for them."

lurker
Drudge says British hostages to be released.

Yeah, looks like it's not a trade. Ahmandenihad said he pardoned them and plans to release them to the UK Embassy in Iran. Then he had the gall to tell England that the Brits do not honor family values and that they allow girls to join the military.

Ya think something scared them into releasing them with no conditions?

sferris

“If a nation expect to be ignorant and free…it expect what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson

“The base isn’t interested in Iraq. The base is for Bush,” Norquist said. “If Bush said tomorrow, we’re leaving in two months, there would be no revolt.” -Grover Norquist

MayBee

Ya think something scared them into releasing them with no conditions?

There was a breaking news banner that Amadinehjad (sp) had awarded honors to the soldiers that caputured the Brits. That's how I knew he was about to release them.

I'm watching CNN, and my (Dem) husband and I are bothered by how straightforward they are in reporting Iran's side of the story and Am's press conference. They question every word out of a Western leader's mouth, but give Am. a wide berth. Very annoying.

lurker

ferret, read the Bloomberg polls via this link:

http://yargb.blogspot.com/2007/04/withdrawal-not-so-fast.html

The base IS interested in Iraq. The base IS interested in winning the war in Iraq against Global Jihadism.

Didn't someone tell you to stop spamming this thread, ferret?

And still no answer to Jane's question?

What is your proposal in winning the war in Iraq against Global Jihadism?

Jane

I never knew Thomas Jefferson was so illiterate. So Ferris, I'm still waiting on your plan to win the war on terror.

sferris

30%ers

"When will the 30%-35% crack, with even the strongest minded Bush devotees increasingly peeling away from Ye Great Leader, so that Bush enters the Nixonian nadir of the middling to high 20s: A) the surge falls flat, with American forces again facing a widespread Shi'a uprising in coming months, too few troops leading to whack-a-mole in Diyala, Ninawa, and Salah ad Din, not to mention still in Baghdad and Anbar, the Maliki government continues to (mostly) flounder, and Turkish-Kurdish tensions deepen; B) the sub-prime mess spreads deeper into the housing sector, with attendant effects on the wider market; C) prices at the pump rise above $2.85-$3 through the summer; D) the Gonzalez taint spreads further to Rove and other inner-core, key kitchen-cabinet lieutenants, E) Cheney prevails on The Man to pre-emptively strike Iran, precipitating a series of cascading international disasters; or F) a massive attack rocks the Green Zone, resulting in scores or even hundreds of American and coalition deaths? Call me pessimistic, but some combination of the above is where I fear this Presidency is heading. And, yes, I hope I'm wrong, for the good of the country, if nothing else. Worth noting too, things are seldom quite as bad (or good) as we tend to think, but typically balance out, on the whole, so as to avert the worst disasters. Here's hoping, as I said. Are readers less pessimistic?"


MayBee

Regarding Fitzgerald. I'm not for a shield law (it seems an invitation to just start making stuff up), but I am for being careful about putting reporters on the hot seat.
Most of all, I think Judy Miller (and the public) deserves to know why she was jailed. She paid a high price for what Fitzgerald did to her, only to have very little of her testimony included in the final charges. He may have been justified, but I think he should publicly demonstrate that.

Jane

Murtha is calling for the reinstatement of the draft.

lurker

Let me copy the Bloomberg polls here:

"A Bloomberg poll last month found that 61% of Americans believe withholding funding for the war is a bad idea, while only 28% believe it is a good idea.

According to a March USA Today/Gallup poll, 61% of Americans oppose “denying the funding needed to send any additional troops to Iraq.”

That poll also showed that only 20% of Americans want to withdraw the troops immediately.

Public Opinion Strategies (POS) recently reported that a majority of voters (54%) oppose the Democrats imposing a reduction in troops below the level military commanders requested.

A POS poll in February found that 59% of voters believe pulling out of Iraq immediately would do more to harm America’s reputation in the world than staying until order is restored.

That POS poll also finds 57% of voters support staying in Iraq until the job is finished and “the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for its people.”

According to a Time magazine poll also taken in March, only 32% want to withdraw the troops within the next year no matter what happens."

Jane, Thomas Jefferson believed in going to war against those pesky Barbary Islam Pirates. And it took fifteen years to combat them to defeat. Someone said Napoleon Bonaparte actually brought that war to victory?

No wonder the Founding Fathers believed that the US President should be the Commander-In-Chief AND manage foreign policy. Congress has no authority over foreign policy. Otherwise, we'll have way too many leaders and not enough workers.

If Bush says that we will pull out of Iraq, so be it. It is his call as the Commander-In-Chief as authorized by the US Constitution. It would be a bad move on his part, though.

sferris

Saudi Kingdom Increasing 'Go It Alone Posture'

"American missteps in the Middle East have been so large, and our credibility in the region in so much free-fall (though Bob Gates will help some at the Pentagon), that the Saudis have been forced faute de mieux to take a more pro-active stance and free-lance more without necessarily coordinating all their moves with Washington. If Iraq worsens and there are no break-throughs on the Israeli-Palestinian front (both likely events), look for this trend of increasing Saudi independence to intensify, as they see too many of their vital interests at risk, and a U.S partner they have less and less confidence in."

lurker

I, among many JOM posters, are optimistic that the surge is working. The war is on foreign grounds. The insurgents are still trying to make dents. As long as the Democrats interfere with the surge and foreign policies through their useless and ridiculous bills and trips, their efforts weaken the strengths and supremacy of our country. Once their bills are passed and enacted as law, then my pessimism for this country will grow.

lurker

Ferret, Saudi's pessimism is due to the Democratic Congress' actions, behavior, bribery votes. Saudi Arabia told Cheney that if we pull out last fall, they will step in to squash the insurgency. They also told Cheney that they want us to stay in Iraq to the end.

Stop reading that crap. They're fooling you into a very one-sided story. Also, stop posting that crap here. They don't add to anything other than us telling you how wrong your information is.

sferris

GOP Doesn't Believe Fredo

"'House Republicans don't believe that the Justice Department did anything illegal by firing eight federal prosecutors last year, but they also don't believe that Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales is telling the truth about why the attorneys were dismissed."

Washington Times - a.k.a Moonie Press

richard mcenroe

Murtha is calling for the reinstatement of the draft.

Jane -- Of ocurse he is. Because who the hell would volunteer to serve under a Democrat now?

MayBee

My pessimism for the country is that those using pessism for the country as a political tool will not find it creates optism for themselves as they thought it would, but rather it creates pessism for the country.

lurker

ferret, who cares whether the House GOP believes in Gonzales or not? Bush is the ONLY one that can fire or hire US attorneys.

Besides, it's just a few Republicans expressing their own opinions and they haven't seen the whole story.

NRO editors aren't happy with Pelosi:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGQwMGUwYTVhOTJlMzc1NWQxZDM2N2ExOTJlNzM0M2M=

Funny when they said Pelosi wanting 535 Secretaries of State!!

MayBee

sferris- not illegal, but not telling the truth. That sounds very important.
More important than healthcare, social security, and the WoT.

sferris

Lurker, is that you in the bushes?

Pofarmer

Is it just me, or are the Dims fixated on making Assad the next Arafat, cause, ya know, that worked out so well.

lurker

Mario Loyola's "The Politics of Pessimism", subtitled "Defeat in Iraq could be a winner for Democrats"

"The Democrats have thrown down the gauntlet. They are insisting on a deadline for withdrawal, and backing it up with a threat to cut off funding for the troops. Pundits predict that the Democrats will back down sooner or later, because they would never cut off funding in the middle of a war. But pessimism in the electoral center — which gave the Democrats control of Congress in the midterm elections — is starting to give them an incentive to precipitate America’s defeat in Iraq. The Democrats might not be bluffing about the funding."

If the Democrats are not bluffing, then they need to defund NOW or never; not one year later!!

"The left will not forgive a vote to fund the war without requiring a withdrawal date — but the general electorate will not look kindly on pulling back funds during a war."

"Defeat in Iraq would be a disaster for the United States — and many of them know it."

"What is depressing about this is that we may once again lose a war at home that is still winnable on the field of battle. Thinking coldly, some Democratic advisers must realize that Democrats stand to “lock in” their electoral majority if they precipitate a defeat in Iraq by cutting funding for the troops. A clear U.S. defeat in Iraq would be a political disaster for the Republicans — perhaps a generational disaster."

"In fact, the problem facing the Democrats now is a mirror image of the problem facing the Republicans in the ’04 elections. Back then, the electoral center — a vital part of the GOP’s governing majority — was wavering on Iraq. They were not convinced that victory was necessary or even possible, and it was vital for Bush to convince them of both things. Now, the electoral center has shifted to the Democrats — giving them a majority. But the center is still wavering: they are not entirely convinced that defeat is either acceptable or inevitable. So it is vital for the Democrats to convince them of both things.

"Here is where the news from Iraq gains a critical political dimension. News coverage has recently turned a bit in the president’s direction. The “surge” appears in some respects to be working. And the Democrats have reacted as if this were the kiss of death.

Even if the Democrats are not crassly playing politics with the troops, the ugly fact is that they have a lot to lose if things start looking positive in Iraq. This is why Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid — one of the most innocent and pitifully transparent politicians of the last generation — laments the “failed policy” behind this “failed war” at every opportunity — and especially at any mention of good news. For the Democrats, bad news out of Iraq is political insurance, and good news is poison — just as for the Republicans, the reverse is true.

That bodes ill for the war effort. It has become politically expedient for the Democrats to convince the wavering middle that we have been defeated in Iraq. And there may be no better way to convince them of that “fact” than to make it happen.

The pessimism of the center – and the exigencies of political survival — are turning the Democrats firmly against the war effort. And that could kill our chances in Iraq."

Pofarmer

I didn't think the left liked us cooperating with the Saudi's? I don't know how they avoid whiplash.

sferris

Pelosi in Damascus

"The speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, is scheduled to meet with Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus today, and will deliver a message of calm from Israel."

"We hope the message will be understood," political sources in Israel said yesterday. "The question is whether Assad is looking for an excuse ... so that he can carry out an attack against Israel in the summer, or whether this is a mistaken assessment."

lurker

ferret, the Democrats are sure to be blamed for bringing us to a quick defeat. Their actions are going to embolden the terrorists that we are a very weak country.

You still haven't answered Jane's question.

What is your plan to win this war on terrorism?

lurker

Assad is intentionally not going to understand Pelosi's message. Pelosi's trip is entirely a farce.

Again, what's your plan to win this war on terrorism?

Pofarmer

So, the Washington times found 2 'Pubs and an aide, whooo, hooooo.

Pofarmer

Yep, definately going the Arafat route, now that the Palestinian situation is all settled, hey, wait a minute..........

lurker

Bush is BACK!!

http://nydailynews.com/news/col/goodwin/index.html

W turns up the heat, Bush finally makes some sense as he rips pols for refusing to offer bill on war funding!!

lurker

Whooo hooo!!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070404-121156-4055r.htm

Baghdad curfew eased as surge scores successes!!!!!

Pofarmer

Tearing em a new asshole while they are on vacation. I like it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Semanticleo

Republican unity dying the death of a thousand cuts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070403-111251-7806r.htm

lurker

Pelosi has a Katrina problem:

http://observer.com/20070409/20070409_Steve_Kornacki_opinions_wiseguys.asp

Specter

Face it lurker, ferret and his clan have no PLAN. None. Nada. Their entire agenda is to make Bush and Republicans look bad. If not, why all the hearings instead of getting on with the business of running the country? Why did they have to load the funding bill with pork just to get their own members to vote for it? No Plan.

ferret - you'd think after you had been squashed the other day based on the polls you would learn your lesson. Right in the tradition of Howie "AAAAAIIIIIYYYEEEEE" Dean and Splash Kennedy! Such a brain trust....LOL.

Other Tom

Ferris still hasn't told us how the loonies are going to offset the environmental devastation caused by replacing plastic grocery bags with those horrid paper ones. Perhaps it's adult-onset ADD.

lurker

ali-cleown, it's the same article already linked above.

Profarmer said, "Only two pubs and an aide".

WHOOPPIE!!

Semanticleo

The Donner party had to delay eating their own until there was no other option. Republicans
soon to be as extinct as the Whigs and the Dodo bird. What will they rename themselves when they re-emerge?

Pofarmer

Did I mention one of the Pubs was from California? And the aide is "unnamed"?

Specter

well...lurker - Tic is part of the Demoncrat brain trust. She has trouble reading.

What do you think of this? Does Pelosi really think that a male dominated/female subordinate culture like the ME is going to listen to her? Those guys are sitting back thinking, "Where's her burka? Why does she speak without being spoken to? What is this female doing here?"

lurker

Good for Kyl to ensure that the blame is ON the House and Senate Democrats:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjU0NmI2YWUwMjdhZGRhOWIzM2FlZDEwOGU0MGZjNGI=

Specter, I know that ferret has absolutely NO PLANS. Each time ferret posts or asks us questions, that's the question he will get back. The agenda of the Democrats is to impeach Bush as a revenge for impeaching Clinton. They have no grounds at all but they will find something.

Semanticleo

"Only two pubs and an aide".

And the gnawing of hunger soon overtook
the remaining members of the Donner party.

Other Tom

"Science [Magazine] published a study last week claiming that a tree ring analysis found striking similarities between 20th century increases in global temperature and the Medieval Warm Period -- a period lasting from 1330 AD to 1600 AD which saw similar increases in temperature."

--March 24, 2002

sferris

Bush supports troops, goes fishing fishin

lurker
The Donner party had to delay eating their own until there was no other option. Republicans soon to be as extinct as the Whigs and the Dodo bird. What will they rename themselves when they re-emerge?

They will rename themselves as Republicans!

The Democrats will soon be extinct as the Whigs and Dodo birds.

Semanticleo

"agenda of the Democrats is to impeach Bush"

Berserker;

They don't have to. He will melt down of his
own volition.

Specter

Tic,

What about those polls that show growing contempt for Dimmy legislation? Can't handle real data I see....

lurker

Nah, Bush won't melt down. Bush is BACK!!!

The Democrats are actually the ones that are fishing.

What are your plans for winning this war on terrorism?

Specter

and Tic says;

duh,
duh,
duh....

Other Tom

"Science Daily recently reported on a 'viewpoint' published in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Innovation by Robert Essenhigh, the E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy Conservation in Ohio State's Department of Mechanical Engineering, that illustrates just how much debate there is about the global warming hypothesis.

"Essenhigh suggests that rather than increased levels of manmade CO2 and other greenhouse gases causing an increase in global temperatures, that increases in world temperatures may be causing increases in atmosphere CO2.

"Essenhigh writes,


"'Many scientists who have tried to mathematically determine the relationship between carbon dioxide and global temperature would appear to have vastly underestimated the significance of water in the atmosphere as a radiation-absorbing gas. If you ignore the water, you're going to get the wrong answer.'

"Essenhigh hypothesizes that the world is simply at the peak of a natural warming point which has resulted in more water vapor and hence more CO2."

Specter

Then Tic follows with:

discombobulate disestablishmentarianism supercalifragilisticexpealidocious.

lurker

Number two from VFW tells Reid:

http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=news.newsDtl&did=3962

"
VFW Tells Congress to Set Aside Troop Withdrawal Language
New Reid proposal tantamount to surrender"

"The number two leader of the nation’s largest organization of combat veterans has called upon Congress to temporarily set aside their troop withdrawal language so that emergency funding can be approved for the troops fighting the war in Iraq."

Ferret and ali-cleown, what are your plans to win the war on terrorism?

Are you willing to allow the Democrats to burden your kids and grandkids higher taxes?

Semanticleo

Thomasina;

Is San Diego less than 230 feet above sea level? Good luck. I don't think there are
any mountains in Maryland either.

http://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/features/200606-1.html

Specter

OT - I hope he is right. I for one believe that there are many causes to GW, and think we may not have reached the "peak" yet. Remember that ecological cycles are not measured in terms of 40 or 50 years. Rather in centuries.

Specter

More Tic:

hoopla et al dominican
the with
minotaur to see
cavitation.

Semanticleo

"what are your plans to win the war on terrorism?"

I just love the accountability deflection.

Code for; "Now that we've welded the throttle
wide open on this runaway train, what do you plan to do about the wreck?"

Specter

Which part of San Diego Tic? Try the Black's Beach area, or Torrey Pines, or Point Loma. Then when you get out into areas like Rancho Penasquitos you might find you are wrong.

Other Tom

Moonbat attacks Kyoto:

"Since the topic of global warming and the Kyoto Treaty which is designed to ameliorate the effects of global warming have become a topic of discussion here, it was interesting to see that British climatologist Mick Kelly attacked the West's obsession with global warming, and the Kyoto Treaty in particular, as part of the free market's war on the poor in the developing world.

"Now obviously I disagree with Kelly's anti-capitalist rhetoric, but it is good to see someone besides right wing nuts like myself noticing that the Kyoto Protocol would cause enormous damages to developing countries to combat what Kelly calls a 'comparatively nebulous threat.' Besides which even if the most extreme claims about global warming are accepted, the rather Draconian proposals in the Kyoto Protocol would by the International Panel on Climate Control's own estimate lower the projected warming by only 0.06 degrees Celsius."

Specter

More tic:

accountability deflection
swordfish
but when the Dems ran on
fixing mathematically
based
quanta with regards to
semi-autonomous Iraq
the accountability platform was to stop
the self-aggrandizement and create
the illusion of
stability.

Other Tom

Cleo, my normal life expectancy would be about another 15-20 years. However, since I live a quarter mile from the Pacific on a near-island, I expect I will succumb by drowning sooner than that. We're doomed, I tell you, doomed!

Great Banana

The Donner party had to delay eating their own until there was no other option. Republicans soon to be as extinct as the Whigs and the Dodo bird. What will they rename themselves when they re-emerge?

I suppose that great intelligence dictates that if the dems won a majority in the last election, that automatically means the republican party is history forevermore.

And, of course, no politicians in the democrat party ever disagrees with another dem politician. Unless you count such things as the competing Iraq war surrender factions - fighting over who soon they want to surrender.

Cleo, in all seriousness, do you ever intend to add anything intelligent to any debate?

How's Sarbanes Oxley working out for you? Getting any milegage out of that? Or are you on to a new talking point? What's the latest advice from DU and KOS on what you should think/say?

lurker

ali-cleown and ferret, you continue to deflect accountability.

What are your plans to win the war on terrorism?

Bush changed direction. Result: The surge is working. The Democrats hate to see it working.

maryrose

Dems will not de-fund. If any dem 08 hopeful votes against money for the troops they are toast.

Other Tom

"Sea level isn't, well, level. Nor is the rate by which sea level has been rising over the past few decades, but the trend is clearly up. Global sea level has risen an average of three millimeters (0.1 inch) per year since 1993."

Whew--I guess I'll make it after all.

SunnyDay

MayBee | April 04, 2007 at 10:24 AM
***************

saw this on FR http://www.nysun.com/article/51808

Hatfill case - judge Walton again. He says Hatfill has to go after journalist's sources or risk the entire case.

A federal judge is prodding lawyers for a scientist investigated in connection with the anthrax attacks in 2001, Steven Hatfill, to escalate a battle with the press by insisting that reporters identify anonymous government sources who linked Mr. Hatfill to the probe.

Judge Reggie Walton issued an order last week warning Mr. Hatfill that he may lose his civil lawsuit over the leaks if he does not compel journalists to name their sources. "A wealth of case law suggests that in order to prove that a violation of the Privacy Act has occurred, the actual source of the information must be identified," the judge wrote. "Whether the plaintiff can satisfy this requirement with circumstantial evidence alone is an endeavor the plaintiff assumes at his peril if he decides to not further identify the source or sources of the purported improper disclosures."

Specter

You are right maryrose. And Obama was the first to see the actual light - or at least to go public with it. That took guts. Harry "I Got $68K, You Can't Prove It, and I'm Not Giving it Back" Reid is playing with fire. Good luck on that.

Great Banana

"what are your plans to win the war on terrorism?"

I just love the accountability deflection.

Code for; "Now that we've welded the throttle
wide open on this runaway train, what do you plan to do about the wreck?"

So, libs and dems don't need to offer an alternative? Simply snipe like children and whine and complain? Winning a majority in Congress does not require any ideas or policy proposals from dems? What about running for president?

At what point should we expect you to do more than complain like a child?

If you have no substantive alternative to offer, you are not debating. What is the point you are making? Bush bad/evil?

Asking you what you would do about a problem is hardly "deflection". You say you don't like what the Admin is doing. We say - O.K., what would you do about the problem?

And you say - You are deflecting. The issue here is that I don't like the policy of the admin.

That is about as juvenile as it gets.

lurker

Bush already changed course and the surge is working. What train-wreck are you talking about, ali-cleown?

Specter

GB - that the Dimmy brain trust getting in the way again. Tic and ferret believe and that is all they need. The whole Dimmy party has been taken over by these types. I mean look at Unready Neddy! Gawwwwd...if they weren't embarrassed over that they'll never see the light.....And they made Joe Lieberman the most powerful person in the Senate to boot....

Specter

No More GWOT

No more GWOT, House committee decrees

By Rick Maze - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Apr 3, 2007 20:12:47 EDT

The House Armed Services Committee is banishing the global war on terror from the 2008 defense budget.

This is not because the war has been won, lost or even called off, but because the committee’s Democratic leadership doesn’t like the phrase.

A memo for the committee staff, circulated March 27, says the 2008 bill and its accompanying explanatory report that will set defense policy should be specific about military operations and “avoid using colloquialisms.”

The “global war on terror,” a phrase first used by President Bush shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., should not be used, according to the memo. Also banned is the phrase the “long war,” which military officials began using last year as a way of acknowledging that military operations against terrorist states and organizations would not be wrapped up in a few years.

Committee staff members are told in the memo to use specific references to specific operations instead of the Bush administration’s catch phrases. The memo, written by Staff Director Erin Conaton, provides examples of acceptable phrases, such as “the war in Iraq,” the “war in Afghanistan, “operations in the Horn of Africa” or “ongoing military operations throughout the world.”

“There was no political intent in doing this,” said a Democratic aide who asked not to be identified. “We were just trying to avoid catch phrases.”

Josh Holly, a spokesman for Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, the committee’s former chairman and now its senior Republican, said Republicans “were not consulted” about the change.

No more reality, just euphemisms. Brain Trust indeed.....

Jane

It is my rule of thumb that if a moonbat has no plan for the war on terror, they are not seriously interested in being anything but disruptive and should be either asked for their plan, or ignored. Nothing else.

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Sue:
Are you Spruill? Because that sounds amazingly like one of your posts.

Heh, yeah, more like it sounds like a post I wish I woulda written....thanks for the compliment...

Semanticleo

"That is about as juvenile as it gets."

You think the surge is working?

Other Tom

"Most reporters who come to Alaska to try to find the greenhouse disasters have little knowledge of the Arctic. They take photographs of large blocks of ice falling from glaciers at their termini and report that global warming is in progress before their very eyes. However, glaciers are not static piles of ice, but instead are constantly flowing rivers of ice. It is normal for tidewater glaciers to calve large blocks of ice from the face as they reach the sea, and they will do so regardless of how warm or cold it is. Most glaciers in the world have been receding since 1800 or earlier, well before 1940, when CO2 began to increase significantly. Why do major media of the world flock all the way to Alaska, if global warming is a global phenomenon? So far, what they would find is broken houses in Shishmaref, a little island in the Bering Sea coast, because of coastal erosion that is difficult to relate to a direct result of global warming. Some of the current global warming stories, including 'The Day after Tomorrow,' are based on science fiction, not science."

--Syun Akafoku, 2007

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Specter:
Face it lurker, ferret and his clan have no PLAN. None. Nada. Their entire agenda is to make Bush and Republicans look bad.


YES.

Even the war in Iraq isn't necesarily all that bad, when it is not a cause with which you can bash Bush....cf. Sen. Feinstein, War Profiteering, Inc.

lurker
It is my rule of thumb that if a moonbat has no plan for the war on terror, they are not seriously interested in being anything but disruptive and should be either asked for their plan, or ignored. Nothing else.

Keep asking them the same question.

ferret and ali-cleown, what are your plans for winning this war on terrorism?

Yes, the surge is working. Baghdad changed its curfew hours two hours later as Baghdad becomes safer.

The glaciers are constantly moving forwards and backwards. What's the connection between the glacier movement and Global Warming? None!

Semanticleo

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/middleeast/03mccain.html?ex=1333252800&en=6d4cc90785eb9d17&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Life in the fun (green) zone.

cathyf

People keep asking sferris for his plan to win the Insurrection Against the Global Caliphate while surrendering on the Iraqi Front. He refuses to answer, so I thought I would give it a stab...

Tomorrow, Bush stands up and makes a speech:

My fellow Americans, last week the US Congress voted to surrender in Iraq. Perhaps because 2/3 to 3/4 of all military personnel vote Republican, the Democrat-controlled Congress has voted for a procedure -- announcing our surrender date 16 months in advance -- designed to get the maximum number of our military personnel killed.

Well, the Congress certainly has the purse strings, so they can cut off funding, but I am still the Commander-In-Chief, and so the date and time of our surrender is still up to me. I am standing here today to explain to you how the procedure is going to work.

1) Our surrender in Iraq is effective immediately, not in 16 months.

2) All military in Iraq have a single mission from now on -- providing security for the evacuation of our surrenduring forces and our allies.

3) Political asylum will be granted to any and every Iraqi citizen who desires it, along with transportation to the US for them and their belongings.

4) The home(s) of each Representative and Senator who voted for the Iraqi Front Surrender will be taken for the public purpose of housing the Iraqi refugess.

5) Since there are 22 million Iraqis, that will not be nearly enough housing. The government will take other houses and evict their (former) owners, and all such houses will be in the congressional districts of the representatives who voted for surrender. (With the exception that Susette Kelo will get to keep her house -- she's given up her home in a government taking too many times already.) The homes so taken will start with the most expensive homes in the district and work down until we have enough housing for all of the Iraqis who desire to come here.

Of course many terrorists will sneak in with the Iraqi refugees. That's what terrorists do, after all -- they hide among innocent civilians. The individual Senators and Representatives who voted for surrender in Iraq voted to fight terrorists at home, in their own neighborhoods, rather than far away in Iraq. By housing all of the terrorists within their congressional districts, we are giving them exactly what they have demanded.

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Jane:
It is my rule of thumb that if a moonbat has no plan for the war on terror, they are not seriously interested in being anything but disruptive and should be either asked for their plan, or ignored. Nothing else.


Good rule.

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  • Semanticleo

    "What is your plan to win the war on terror?"

    Simple. Get in the Wayback machine and stop
    the diversionary war in Iraq. Concentrate
    on Afghanistan's economic structure while chasing and capturing or killing OBL.

    Simple. Why didn't you thnk of that?

    PeterUK

    "Republicans
    soon to be as extinct as the Whigs and the Dodo bird. What will they rename themselves when they re-emerge?"


    If the are extinct Septic,how can they re-emerge?

    Work Unit Sematicleo,you are a complete waste of carbon,report to the recycling centre

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    It was the thought that counted (for little)

  • maryrose

    John Kerry also had no plan to fight the GWOT. We all know how his bid for the presidency worked out. Hillary has said she doesn't know where she stands on the Reid/Feingold amendment because she hasn't seen it. What part of stop funding the troops doesn't she understand? Disengenious as always and looking for the political advantage. No leadership there.

    jeff z

    Note to sferris:

    1) Saudi Arabia's moving away from us is a GOOD thing. Run by cruel tyrants devoted to a demented, monstrous pseudo-religion ruling over a terrorized population alternately fanatical or demoralized, SA is a country bereft of any contribution to human civilization. Its amazing wealth is consigned to increasing either their own sensual pleasures or the misery of the rest of humanity. Whatever economic hit we absorb on that happy day when some superior foe--maybe Iran, or a large and angry cub scout troop, perhaps--destroys them will be easily offset by removing their corrupt agents from among the alumni of the State Department, the Congress, the FBI, the CIA, from the professors and deans at universities, the media, and who knows where else.

    2) You are right about the conservatives supporting Bush if he announced HIS (not Congress's) decision to pull out of Iraq. His administration's performance in the WOT has been astonishingly magnificent. He has earned our trust.

    sferris

    Americans">http://www.nypost.com/seven/04032007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/wheres_winston__opedcolumnists_ralph_peters.htm">Americans accuse captured Brits of 'cowardice' and cite the Geneva Conventions

    Spartacvs

    jeff z:

    He has earned our trust.

    Earning the trust of a mere 30% of citizens is nothing to crow about. Just say'in.

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