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May 11, 2007

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cathyf

I think you have a typo, TM. You've got a spurious 'l' in "savage." Although you got the "tries" (as in "pathetic attempt") part right. The article was just goofy -- embyonic stem cell research is the single issue that will usher in a 1000 years of Democratic Party hegemony? *snicker* You can't make this stuff up...

Memomachine

Hmmmmm.

In English "Fred Barnes" is pronounced "Fred Barnes".

However in ancient Sumerian "Fred Barnes" is, amazingly enough, pronounced "Complete and utter asshat".

Who could've predicted this?

BD

Hoo, boy ...

There's one thing that salvages the "Bush Agenda" - make progress in Iraq so obvious that even the MSM can't smother news of it.

TerryeL

I have to admit I am getting tired of this issue. The other day I had a talk with an enforcement only guy and he said he did not want to round up all the illegals and ship them out of the country, he just wanted to deport them all. {note the contradiction}

He wanted to make it impossible for people born here to be citizens, unless both parents already are citizens, but did not want to change any laws. {another inconsistency}

He had no problem with a guest worker program but did not want Mexicans working here and while he himself would never work the fields, he was sure someone else would.

And he did not want the government to pursue any comprehensive solutions, he just wanted the government to deal with this right now, this minute.... today. He was very irate about the whole thing.

I think that Barnes is assuming that people want to come up with some rational solutions to the long term problem. I am beginning to have my doubts about that.

For instance, a great many of the illegals in this country did not cross that border illegally. About half either came in some other way or were legal when they got here and just overstayed their visas or whatever. I really don't think that it is possible to completely secure a border as long as ours...but obviously they can do better. However, even if they did it would not deal with the larger issues of gangs as well as the stress on communities.

But it seems to me that some people just want to demagogue the issue. I am not seeing any real numbers on what it would take in terms of resources or law enforcement to deal with this strictly as an enforcement issue and often as not when you say anything like that people just starting yelling at you.

I have gotten to the place where I hate the whole issue.

TerryeL

I would say that if the situation in Iraq can be stabilized and if the tax cuts can be sustained along with continued growth that would be a decent legacy. Really, only time will tell what the legacy is.

Pofarmer

Take away the jobs for illegals and they will self deport. It has to be more expensive for employers to hire them than to not hire them. For example, require employers to verify SSN's on every new hire. Currently, they are restricted from doing even that simple thing. Even the DMV in most states can't challenge whether or not a SSN is valid. A few common sense changes would go a long way.

Robert

I seem to remember that Clinton had a bit of a problem getting his VP elected in 2000, although that man has gone on to become the God of Global Warming. Clinton didn't have a war or a particularly bad economy or anything - ah, that was his problem! Neither he nor Gore ever tried to actually do anything except get elected.

manys

This whole immigration thing sure seems like a tempest in a teapot, can anybody come up with a good reason why I should care? Better yet, why additional laws are needed?

That said, does anybody agree with Barnes? He's been long-reviled on the left, and to read the comments above I'm thinking he's playing to his own imagination.

Semanticleo

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