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June 03, 2007

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Rick Ballard

That's what happens when youa cupa runnetha overa.

Ego te absolvo.

For ten seconds.

topsecretk9

hoosierhoops - I have no clue why you think you need to apologize but no worries here - besides that Hit and Run is such a bad, bad influence ::wink:: - fagitabout it.

---

Thanks Rick - is this a link -- I hope!

clarice

"James A. Harmon is the Chairman of Harmon & Co. LLC, a financial advisory firm organized in 2001 to advise countries and companies principally in the developing world. In November 2004, Mr. Harmon was elected Chairman of the Board of the World Resources Institute (WRI). Located in Washington, DC, WRI is a global policy and research institution. In 2002, Harmon & Co. established a strategic partnership with the Rothschild Group, the pre-eminent global corporate advisory firm. Mr. Harmon serves as a Senior Advisor to Rothschild.

Mr. Harmon served as the Chairman and President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States (Ex-Im Bank) until June 1, 2001. Nominated to a four-year term by President Clinton, Mr. Harmon was confirmed by the U.S. Senate in June 1997. Prior to joining the Clinton Administration, Mr. Harmon spent 35 years as an investment banker in New York City. Those years were spent at Wertheim & Co., an international investment bank that partnered with Schroders (plc) (U.K.) to form Wertheim Schroder & Co. in 1986. Mr. Harmon served as Chairman and CEO for ten years before leaving the firm in 1997.

Mr. Harmon is a member of the Board of Directors of Questar Corporation, an integrated gas exploration, distribution and pipeline company. He is also a member of the board of the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, Africare, and the Center for Global Development. Mr. Harmon is a member of the J.E. Robert Cos. Global Advisory Board and a member of the International Advisory Board of Alfa Capital. He is a Trustee Emeritus of Brown University and Barnard College and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Mr. Harmon received a B.A. in English Literature from Brown University and an M.B.A. in Finance from Wharton Graduate School, University of Pennsylvania. Mr. Harmon is married to Jane Theaman Harmon, a theatrical producer in New York City and is the father of three children. "

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cfJgmFjQ6EQJ:www.cgdev.org/section/about/board/harmon+James+A.+Harmon&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us>Harmon

the Center for Global Development which provided this blurb has an impressive directorate..

PeterUK.

OFF TOPIC "Insurgents claim US Soldiers dead

clarice

Yes, PUK, that is sad. It suggests to me that the soldiers were killed in or just after the incident or we'd have had videos of them, doesn't it?

topsecretk9

Where is the link to the indictment - anyone have it , Rick? Pretty Please? With sugar on top?

JM Hanes

Cycloptic:

"None of that makes any logical sense to me."

That, of course, is precisely what is so disturbing. Your willingness to let what you want to believe affect your understanding, however, is duly noted, as is your inclination to claim such misunderstanding in preference to actual admissions. Alas, I see that your critical faculties fail you entirely when it comes to Armitage.

While my observation on Trolling may strike you as insulting, you might consider taking it to heart as well, when you examine your own "argumentative mode." Evasive inclinations included.

clarice

Sara (aka Lady Sara) posted it upthread:
a href=http://www.citizensforethics.org/files/jefferson.indict.pdf>indictment

topsecretk9

opps- thanks sara and clarice

Enlightened

When these Plame dipwads slither back under their rocks, which is coming at an alarming rate apparently, the only thing left that troubles me is the absolute certainty that an abject litany of idiots has been entrusted with my personal security.

Mind boggling.

Rick Ballard

Tops,

I'm sorry - Sara posted one above and I thought you had it. Here it is.

Clarice,

Mr. James A. Harmon's FEC record shows a definite list to port. (He's listed several company affiliations including the Ex-Im - the Weston, CT address is the tip)

Cycloptichorn

TM, there was no evasion. While I did not believe I misunderstood the filing, it is entirely possible that I did; IANAL and all that. Don't mistake courtesy for something else.

Neither you nor anyone else has presented any substantive reason why Armitage's involvement is dispositive evidence of anything in this case. It was never I arguing that his involvement materially affected the question of whether or not Plame was covert, but others who argued that she could not be, or else he would be on trial. This is a false argument.

It is not your observations on trolling which are insulting, but your insults themselves. I would suggest re-reading your posts in this thread if you think you have not acted in such a manner.

clarice

Rick:


HARMON, JAMES A.
NEW YORK, NY 10022
RETIRED/RETIRED

CALLAHAN, HERBERT L
VIA CALLAHAN FOR CONGRESS
06/12/2001 1000.00 21990342332

HARMON, JAMES A.
WESTON, CT 06883
HARMON & CO./INVESTMENT BANKER

SHARPTON, REV ALFRED C
VIA SHARPTON 2004
11/20/2003 500.00 24990431893

HARMON, JAMES A.
WESTON, CT 06883
J.A. HARMON ASSOCIATES LLC/INVEST

EMANUEL, RAHM
VIA FRIENDS OF RAHM EMANUEL
09/20/2001 1000.00 22990368334

HARMON, JAMES A. MR.
WESTON, CT 06833
INFO REQUESTED

GORE, AL
VIA GORE/LIEBERMAN GENERAL ELECTION LEGAL AND ACCOUNTING COMPLIANCE FUND
11/18/1999 1000.00 20990027761

HARMON, JAMES A. MR.
WESTON, CT 06883
INFO REQUESTED

GORE, AL
VIA GORE 2000 INC
11/18/1999 1000.00 20990028210

Total Contributions: 4500.00

TRY A: NEW QUERY
RETURN TO: FEC HOME PAGE

No surprise.He was put on the Bank by CClinton after all. I found on the Ex-Im site references to dealings with Jefferson beginning in 1998 but Harmon's name is not their--rather the bank's v-p.

boris

as is your inclination to claim such misunderstanding in preference to actual admissions

Cychotroll is exactly the kind of obnoxious intruder lacking any grasp of basic">http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/05/valerie_plame_t.html#comment-71223650">basic fact or comprehension of logical argument yet asserts ignorant rantings while claiming its own stupidity and lack of imagination as evidence to rebut rational analysis.

Rick Ballard

Clarice,

Remember that Joe Cari was the first person to describe to the feds a “fundraising scheme” involving Public Official A and two of his henchmen, since revealed to be Blagojevich, Kelly and Rezko. The scheme essentially involved using the teachers pension fund to raise campaign cash.

One of Carl McCall’s major political patrons was James A. Harmon, an international financier whom Clinton appointed chairman and president of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. Harmon also sat on the global advisory board of an outfit called J. E. Robert Companies, an asset and real-estate management company based in McLean, Virginia. Harmon’s daughter, Deborah, was president of the company.

J. E. Robert had solicited the teachers’ retirement board for an $85-million investment, and McCall phoned Levine on Harmon’s behalf. Here is where the fundraising scheme described by Cari allegedly came into play. Levine, Cari says in his plea agreement, was willing to use his sway on the teachers’ pension board to award $85 million to J. E. Robert if, in return, the company would hire a consultant of Levine’s choice (which turned out to be for 1 per-cent of the investment—$850,000). Cari claimed the consultant would then contribute some of the money he or she made (without doing any work) to certain political or charitable organizations “as directed by Levine.”

CITE

Not the cleanest of hands, although I'd bet almost any amount that the bank's v-p is much more closely involved.

Cycloptichorn

I would like to reiterate that I fully support you saying whatever it is you feel neccessary to say about me, Boris. It does not affect the quality of my posts, my enjoyment of posting, nor the frequency of my posts. But if it makes you feel good, then please, continue - though I must admit that I am somewhat surprised that an enterprising and educated gentleman such as yourself cannot do better than insults, when there is such an opportunity for quality discussion and argument.

I suspect that this stems from an inability to seperate an emotional argument from a logical one; much to the detriment of the puported position of the poster :)

Jeff Dobbs

hoosier:
I am deeply sorry to all the JOM bloggers from my blog last night..There is no excuse for writing while drunk and I am deeply sorry...


Listen, buddy. Don't go trying to set some precedent here! I have neither the time nor inclination to apologize 391 times for posting drunk.

Seriously, though, you don't have to take things so seriously here -- but if you post to clear your conscience, iz kewl.

tops:
besides that Hit and Run is such a bad, bad influence

Muwhaaahahahaahhaaaa

PeterUK.

Yes Clarice.A filthy barbaric these people are being asked to fight,makes one grateful for the Geneva Conventions and the concerned liberals.

topsecretk9

Thanks Rick

Phillip Merrill was appointed to IM-EX bank a few years back.

topsecretk9

--Listen, buddy. Don't go trying to set some precedent here! I have neither the time nor inclination to apologize 391 times for posting drunk.--

Get out of my head Hit! - I was tempted to chatize Hoosier for the same!

Hoosier - SHHHHHHHH!

lurker9876

i don't know why hoosier had to apologize but apologies accepted. Regardless of number of apologies.

Rick, Clarice, Oh my gosh. Was there something that Obama got involved with Rezko in some real estate or investments?

Now I see Rahm Emanuel involved with this whole thing, too.

Think David Horowitz has something up at discoverthenetwork.com showing all of these connections or he will work on these connections?

Amazing how DoJ found those connections. What's worse is that Patrick Leahy, Chucky Schumer, and perhaps Arlen Specter had to know all of this...maybe...by going after Gonzales in order to prevent DoJ from indicting Jefferson because the indictment is going to reveal far more than we know just yet????

lurker9876

What about the timing of his indictment with 18 months left to go? What if these US attorneys are fired and replaced by the next US President?

Now what happens to Mollohan and Menedez? What about Feinstein?

Sure glad this case is not under Fitz's control. Fitz will certainly screw this one up big time.

lurker9876

Philip Merrill's name is familiar but I don't know much about him. Did he do anything wrong?

lurker9876

From lgf:

"Three radical Islamic front groups have been named by federal prosecutors as participants in a criminal conspiracy to support Hamas—including the Council on American Islamic Relations."

Good. About time!

topsecretk9

Lurk - no he didn't, It was just an FYI

Rick Ballard

"Did he do anything wrong?"

If he did, we'll never know for sure.

The Honorable Congressman William J. Jefferson (DEMOCRAT), LA. appears to have been intent upon establishing a family conglomerate with interests in telecommunications, construction, waste disposal, oil, sugar and anything else that he could extort his way into. The Ex-Im Bank was a very important card that he appeared able to put in play. Tossing out the names of the people at the top of the Ex-Im is just a way to flush the odd crooked bureaucrat. Somebody at Ex-Im is going to wind up being impaled over this and Harmon or the v-p need to get the sword out and make their pick.

Cold Cash had very little to offer the Africans without the in at the Ex-Im to provide the dough. A congresscritter just isn't that powerful.

lurker9876

Thanks, TS,

Fred Barnes or somebody on Brit Hume's show said that with today's indictment, the Democrats would be less likely to use the term, "party of corruption" again [2008 elections].

If only Mollohan and / or Menendez are indicted soon, that would put a clamp on the democrats on how they play their campaign games.

This may hurt Hillary more from this indictment.

lurker9876

From Hotair:

Two of Jefferson’s associates have already struck plea bargains with prosecutors and have been sentenced.

Brett Pfeffer, a former congressional aide, admitted soliciting bribes on Jefferson’s behalf and was sentenced to eight years in prison.

Another Jefferson associate, Louisville, Ky., telecommunications executive Vernon Jackson, pleaded guilty to paying between $400,000 and $1 million in bribes to Jefferson in exchange for his assistance securing business deals in Nigeria and other African nations. Jackson was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.

Amazing how Jefferson won the runoff...

Specter
It does not affect the quality of my posts, my enjoyment of posting, nor the frequency of my posts.

First off - just for your edification - your posts lack any quality whatsoever. You still have failed to put forth one link or one iota of evidence for your beliefs. So much for quality.

As for attitude - you are a troll cycho, whether you believe it or not. I showed you on a previous thread just exactly how many things you have said that are troll-like in nature. Now put up or shut up TROLL. Where is your proof? None. Nada. Zip.

RichatUF

Scary Fat Larry says....

by way of windansea [pretty brave, I have my limits of dreck I can read]

...the chutzpah of some folks who lack experience and knowledge, but insist they have the grasp of secrets that folks who have actually worked on the issues...

So where does Victoria Toensing go and get her apology?

And isn't that an appeal to faith-Larry Johnson, super agent, above questioning

RichatUF

Cycloptichorn

Specter,

You seem to be a little upset. Let me ask you: what is it that you would like me to 'put up or shut up about?'

I'm more than happy to provide evidence, theories, logic, or plain discussion about whatever specific topic of conversation that you like; just let me know what it is in particular and I will work to oblige you.

I find it interesting that people who will constantly insult and demean another poster, accuse him of being a troll; not for any abusive behavior on his part, but merely because of a disagreement in opinion.

topsecretk9

Rick

Yes and unbelievably while he was pumping Vernon and Mody for cash to bribe the Nigerian's with - he pocketed or rather freezered it--he was working on a scheme with Mody (the gov't witness that went to the feds) to set up Multi-Media Broad band (his family) to stick a knife in Igate's back and take over the deal. Used Igate to start the ball rolling and finance the bribes in order to scheme a take over multi million contract.

Nice guy!
Democrat Values!

RichatUF

Rick Ballard...

...A congresscritter just isn't that powerful...

Jefferson sat on the House Ways and Means Committee and on sat [maybe chaired?] the African Trade Caucus sub-committee...

career link

RichatUF

lurker9876


Larry--I never cease to be amazed at the chutzpah of some folks who lack experience and knowledge--

sounds like his CIA career.

And his pre-9/11 prediction of terrorism waning down and we have nothing to worry about.

Well, Toensing actually worked on these issues. Her articles and opening statements proved that she actually has great grasp of the process in protecting covert agents. As does Cheney.

lurker9876

RichatUF, Nancy was considering putting Jefferson on the Homeland Security committee.

She said it many times in the last few months.

lurker9876

Well..

details on the homeland security committee:

Jefferson and Homeland Security Committee

Sara

Can anyone refresh my memory? Was the freezer money marked at the time of the alleged bribery? IIRC it was and that seems to be tough evidence to pooh pooh away a la Nancy P.

Rick Ballard

Rich,

I should have used the comparative - I was thinking of DiFi's bailing hubby out. A Ways and Means seat for a majority party member (which Jefferson was until January, 03) does carry a little weight. I'd still go with influence at Ex-Im as being his main sales item. Maybe it derived from that African Trade Caucus sub-committee, maybe it derived from a Clinton appointee.

lurker9876

A Life - and a Senate Seat - Hang In the Balance

clarice

Rick, another do good sounding schme which had as its actual objective enriching Dem pols, I think.

Rick Ballard

Rich,

Thanks for that link on Jefferson. The only reference to the Ex-Im board of directors dates to 04-05, which would let Hanson off the hook. Not Max Cleland though.

topsecretk9

-- Was the freezer money marked at the time of the alleged bribery?--

yes.

Chants

Whoa! I think you hit a very nasty nerve there in LJ, TM. But to debate Larry? We tried that, Cap'n, once before, on JOM Holodeck 9. As I recall, sir, it was....very loud.

http://tinyurl.com/2n5v9s.

(Sorry folks for my absence. I have had trouble logging into Typead. To make a long story short, I blame H&T, and the case of Maker's Mark he sent me).

JM Hanes

If Harmon retired as head of Ex-Im in 2001, his offical tenure there basically predates Jefferson's racketeering. While I'm sure Harmon's former position would prove useful in his own new venture, at that point in time, Jefferson was apparently just starting in on setting up his front companies.

JM Hanes

windansea:

What I enjoy most about Jeff's item at FDL is what it says about the attention he must be devoting, not just to Tom's posts, but to the commentary in Tom's threads. Even from his newly exalted perch, I note he's still desperately trying to dunk Clarice's pigtails in the ink pot.

Other Tom

Don't sweat it, Hoosier--I've yet to submit my first sober post. If I do I'll put it in all caps or something.

I have the honor of having been banned permanently from Morbidly Obese Larry's site (as well as from TalkLeft and Firedoglake), so I don't check out what he has to say any more. From time to time I used to post cites to his famous July, 2001 [sic] NYT op-ed entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," and I think he got a bit tired of that.

I believe the poor stupe thinks of himself as some sort of Special Ops kind of super-spy, although he has yet to be the subject of a shot fired in anger. He is the kind of fellow we all knew in high school, the one who hopes one day to be a cop but who ends up as a private security guard at WalMart.

Seems pretty clear to me that what we have is an out-of-control racist Justice Department, one that has declared open season on African-American congressman. I expect Jesse and the Rev. Al are in a furious competition to see who can be the first to hold a presser to that effect.

topsecretk9

Nice to see you are back Chants!

Rocco

The Ex-Im Bank was a very important card that he appeared able to put in play. Tossing out the names of the people at the top of the Ex-Im is just a way to flush the odd crooked bureaucrat. Somebody at Ex-Im is going to wind up being impaled over this and Harmon or the v-p need to get the sword out and make their pick.

I wonder if it's Nedelcovych?

EX-IM BANK ANNOUNCES MEMBERS OF 2000 SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA ADVISORY COMMITTEE

U.S. Information Technology Focus of First Meeting; Eric G. Postel to Chair Committee

Mima S. Nedelcovych, Ph.D., Vice President, International Business Development F.C. Schaffer & Associates, Inc., Baton Rouge, LA.

Mr. Nedelcovych is an expert in international finance and marketing in emerging economics, with over 21 years experience working in Africa. He is the former Executive Director of the African Development Bank.

F. C. Schaffer is a sugar company represented by Nedelcovych and accompanied Wilson to Ethiopia in Nov 99. Schaffer is also mentioned in Harpers William Jefferson:Tollbooth Operator on the Road to Africa

Another Louisiana firm with ties to Jefferson is Schaffer Global Group. Back in 2002, according to interviews and documents I have received, Schaffer Global was unsuccessfully chasing potential business deals in Equatorial Guinea in conjunction with several other firms, including a lobbying and business-development company called AfricaGlobal that worked for the Obiang regime (and which is now owned by Schaffer). In addition to trying to drum up American investment in Equatorial Guinea, AfricaGlobal also sought to improve ties between Obiang and the United States. At least three people from Schaffer or AfricaGlobal made modest campaign contributions to Jefferson; one of them, Warren Weinstein, served on the AOPIG with Melvin Spence, an aide to the congressman.
clarice

Yes, jmh..Probably because I am not impressed with his genius.

Rick Ballard

JMH,

Do you think that Jefferson started peddling influence regarding Africa in '04? Or maybe a little earlier - say, after Bubba's Excellent Bongo Adventure, the one that Munchie was famous for arranging? Jefferson was peddling in Ghana and Sao Tome - Principe, both are countries where Munchie "served" prior to setting up his "consulting" company.

I noted that Hanson appeared to be off the hook but I don't think that the dates from the indictment are dispositive regarding the extent of the truly entrepreneurial level of corruption displayed by the Honorable William J. Jefferson (DEMOCRAT), LA.

I'll bet that Tops sniffs out something meaty before the end of the week.

Rick Ballard

If Rocco doesn't beat her to it.

Nice job Rocco.

RichatUF

The indictment at FOX isn't cut-and-pastable...

but this caught my eye...

...59. In or about June 2002, Defendant JEFFERSON introduced Jackson to a Member of the United States House of Representatives, who was a prominent member of the Subcommittee on Telecommunications, Trade, and Consumer Protection, for the purpose of garnering that Member’s support for iGate’s technology without disclosing Defendant JEFFERSON’s family’s financial interest in iGate’s business.

60. On or about October 22, 2002, as a result of the above-referencing meeting, Defendant JEFFERSON caused the aforementioned Member to send to iGate on official congressional letterhead and under that Member’s signature praising iGate’s technology.


2002 COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE


W.J. ‘‘BILLY’’ TAUZIN, Louisiana, Chairman
MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, Florida
JOE BARTON, Texas
FRED UPTON, Michigan
CLIFF STEARNS, Florida
PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio
JAMES C. GREENWOOD, Pennsylvania
CHRISTOPHER COX, California
NATHAN DEAL, Georgia
RICHARD BURR, North Carolina
ED WHITFIELD, Kentucky
GREG GANSKE, Iowa
CHARLIE NORWOOD, Georgia
BARBARA CUBIN, Wyoming
JOHN SHIMKUS, Illinois
HEATHER WILSON, New Mexico
JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona
CHARLES ‘‘CHIP’’ PICKERING, Mississippi
VITO FOSSELLA, New York
ROY BLUNT, Missouri
TOM DAVIS, Virginia
ED BRYANT, Tennessee
ROBERT L. EHRLICH, Jr., Maryland
STEVE BUYER, Indiana
GEORGE RADANOVICH, California
CHARLES F. BASS, New Hampshire
JOSEPH R. PITTS, Pennsylvania
MARY BONO, California
GREG WALDEN, Oregon
LEE TERRY, Nebraska
ERNIE FLETCHER, Kentucky
JOHN D. DINGELL, Michigan
HENRY A. WAXMAN, California
EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts
RALPH M. HALL, Texas
RICK BOUCHER, Virginia
EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York
FRANK PALLONE, Jr., New Jersey
SHERROD BROWN, Ohio
BART GORDON, Tennessee
PETER DEUTSCH, Florida
BOBBY L. RUSH, Illinois
ANNA G. ESHOO, California
BART STUPAK, Michigan
ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York
TOM SAWYER, Ohio
ALBERT R. WYNN, Maryland
GENE GREEN, Texas
KAREN MCCARTHY, Missouri
TED STRICKLAND, Ohio
DIANA DEGETTE, Colorado
THOMAS M. BARRETT, Wisconsin
BILL LUTHER, Minnesota
LOIS CAPPS, California
MICHAEL F. DOYLE, Pennsylvania
CHRISTOPHER JOHN, Louisiana
JANE HARMAN, California

Rick Ballard...

in item 17. ANJ was incorporated on Jan19 2001 and item 18. BEP Consulting Services was incorporated on Oct 24 2000...

wow...I was reading kinda fast, ran across item63.

...On or about July 20 2003, in London, England, without Jackson's knowledge, Defendant JEFFERSON solicited from Nigerian Businessperson A a percentage of revenue and stock, as well as fees estimates to be worth $1 million, to be paid to Defendant JEFFERSON, all in return for Defendant JEFFERSON's official assistance with Nigerian and United States government officials to further a telecommunications venture by Nigerian Company A and iGate in Nigeria.

assistance with US government officials?


RichatUF

lurker9876

Hillary Clinton to Secret Service Detail: "Get F*cked!"

Read first post. Apparently, she talks worse than Nixon.

Jeff Dobbs

Chants:
To make a long story short, I blame H&T, and the case of Maker's Mark he sent me


That's a typo, right? Please tell me that's a typo.

I've done everything I can to keep my alter ego off this board and as far away from any of you fine upstanding people as possible.

Please tell me that hot and tipsy has never made an appearance here or tried to contact any of you.

Oh, and if that is a typo, I feel awful. Let me make it up to you, Chants. Tell you what, send me a case of Maker's Mark and I will struggle with typepad for a while.

topsecretk9

--F.C. Schaffer & Associates, Inc.--

Thanks Rocco - I knew that name meant something.

JM Hanes

lurker:

"Three radical Islamic front groups have been named by federal prosecutors as participants in a criminal conspiracy to support Hamas—including the Council on American Islamic Relations."

Afraid CAIR is only listed as an unindicted co-conspirator.

lurker9876

Which means that they are under investigation, right?

Rocco

Thanks Rick

Here's a translation of LA">http://www.africaintelligence.fr/LOI/archives/default_archives.asp%3Fnum%3D876%26year%3D&prev=/search%3Fq%3Deatic,1999%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN">LA LETTRE DE L'OCEAN INDIEN

The Indian Ocean Newsletter October 23, 1999 SECTION: ECONOMICS & PROJECTS; ETHIOPIA / UNITED STATES; N. 876 LENGTH: 363 words HEADLINE: Well--connected businessmen

The delegation of American businessmen which is to go to Addis Ababa from November 6 to 14 at the instigation of Ethio--American Trade and Investment Council (an organism managed by Gezahegn Kebede. which is close to the Ethiopian government) has some solid connections with the US Administration. The visit will be sponsored by Osyka Corporation, a Texas oil company whose chairman Michael F. Harness is a member of both EATIC and of National Petroleum Council, an organism charged with advising US secretary for energy Bill Richardson. Another sponsor is F. C. Schaffer & Associates, a sugar company whose chairman Mina Nedelcovych is boss of Corporate Council on Africa which groups American enterprises active in Africa.

Several companies controlled by Saudi--Ethiopian magnate Mohamed Hussein Al Amoudi have helped to organize the trip: Westar Group, which administers Al Amoudi's interests in Washington and is chaired by Derige Mekonen after having been long managed by banker Jeff Wilson, and the Addis Ababa Sheraton whose board includes ex--US ambassador to Ethiopia Irvin Hicks and Al Amoudi's Midroc Ethiopia group. There is also Rock Creek Corporation, an investment company controlled by Al Amoudi and chaired since 1997 by Elias Aburdene, a Lebanese businessman very well introduced in Washington power circles. A former adviser to the Franklin National Bank in Washington DC, Aburdene right from his accession to the top of Rock Creek engaged US president Bill Clinton's former adviser for African affairs, Joseph Wilson IV as adviser. The latter had already met Al Amoudi in 1997 during a meeting organized at the World Bank by the Westar Group (ION 794). Apart from his responsibilities with Rock Creek, Aburdene is executive chairman of the very influential National Association of Arab Americans. A former lecturer at the University of Georgetown's School of Foreign Service, he is also very active with former students of the university where ex--assistant secretary of state for African affairs Chester A. Crocker and US mediator in the Eritrea--Ethiopia border dispute (and former national security adviser to Clinton) Anthony Lake are professors.

(Translation stolen from SBD at Winds of Change)

Rick Ballard

Rich,

Remember, Clinton hauled the whole Black Caucus to Africa for his Bongo Adventure. I think it would be safe to strip out the Republicans on the list (and I'm very disappointed not to see at least one of the Sanchez sisters listed).

topsecretk9

What's interesting about Schaffer Gloabl Group, they have a link to their Africa Global LLC that is goes to an outside nowwhere hoster/server but the file name is

99AfrGlobal99.htm

I get nothing on wayback machine

Rick Ballard

Rich,

The makeup of the committee from the '00 Congress (which was in charge until Jan '03) may be different than the '02 list.

topsecretk9

OK, I'm out -- can't wait to see what you guys dig up

BTW - the link I an referring to is in the text on the about page

Rick Ballard

Rich,

The makeup of the committee from the '00 Congress (which was in charge until Jan '03) may be different than the '02 list.

Rick Ballard

Rich,

The makeup of the committee from the '00 Congress (which was in charge until Jan '03) may be different than the '02 list.

RichatUF

Rick Ballard...

Ex-Im bank is listed by name in item 66

In or about August 2003, in Washington DC, Defendant JEFFERSON introduced Jackson and Nigerian Company A executives to personnel of the Ex-Im bank for the purpose of obtaining financial support for iGate and Nigerian Company A's venture in Nigera.

I'm a slow reader and slower typer...

RichatUF

Rocco

And if that Conjoncture article is right, Wilson was in Equatorial Guinea the previous month, Oct 99 promoting American companies. Nomeco is one company mentioned in the article. They're a subsidiary of CMS Energy also mentioned in the Harpers article.

RichatUF

Rick Ballard...

Ex-Im bank is listed by name in item 66

In or about August 2003, in Washington DC, Defendant JEFFERSON introduced Jackson and Nigerian Company A executives to personnel of the Ex-Im bank for the purpose of obtaining financial support for iGate and Nigerian Company A's venture in Nigera.

I'm a slow reader and slower typer...

RichatUF

RichatUF

Rick Ballard...

Ex-Im bank is listed by name in item 66

In or about August 2003, in Washington DC, Defendant JEFFERSON introduced Jackson and Nigerian Company A executives to personnel of the Ex-Im bank for the purpose of obtaining financial support for iGate and Nigerian Company A's venture in Nigera.

I'm a slow reader and slower typer...

RichatUF

RichatUF

Its FITZMAS for Rocco

RichatUF

Rick Ballard

You've also infected me with a stutter.

Or vice versa.

Rocco

AfricaGlobal

lurker9876

Which Jackson?

clarice

Rocco's hard work starts to pay off!! Yeah.

Other Tom

Tenth in the IBD series on the luridly putrid presidency of the scabrous James Earl Carter:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=265849780293891

They should get a Pulitzer for this.

clarice

I think you qualify for a Pulitzer only if you made up the subject of the piece,OT.

lurker9876

Pulitzer award is given by a group of radical liberals. Who won that award by leaking the secret prison camps in Europe?

RichatUF

Rick...

...Remember, Clinton hauled the whole Black Caucus to Africa for his Bongo Adventure....

Up thread I found a Stanford link that had a spread of the Clinton 1998 (one of the most expensive trips by a US President ever, $50 million+) and his 2000 trip.

I've barely gotten through half the indictment, wow, and right now I'm sort of brainstorming, but I think I might go quiet for a spell and just let Rocco speak.

That was the only link I could find and I used the 2002 list because the indictment alledges that another congressman sent the letter in 2002. Wonder if anyone read stuff into the Congressional Record like Ney (something for me to do!)

RichatUF

topsecretk9
And if that Conjoncture article is right, Wilson was in Equatorial Guinea the previous month, Oct 99 promoting American companies. Nomeco is one company mentioned in the article. They're a subsidiary of CMS Energy also mentioned in the Harpers article.

Right on Rocco!

I'm not out quite yet --

thanks for the Africa Global link - I am referring to the one in the text (on the about page) here: http://schafferglobalgroup.com/SGG.htm

it comes up:

99AfrGlobal99.htm

but it's no big I am sure. I was just wondering if the "99" referred to the date it started or the africa trip

Rick Ballard

Kinda puts Munchies resignation in late '98 in a new light. He sets up the Bongo Adventure, takes a bow, resigns, and signs up with Al Amoudi and starts peddling his 'contacts'. Did he have a 'special friend' at Ex-Im ready to smear a little grease on any squeaky wheels?

Was Plame's pimping him for the '99 CIA trip just covering travel expenses or is there a CIA angle in this too?

SMGalbraith

The military commissisons and trials of the Guantanamo detainees is completely unraveling.

The legislation will have to be re-visited - this time under a Democratic Congress - and new tribunals established to determine whether each detainee is being properly charged.

Just swell.

If this winds up getting into civilian courts - as the defense attorneys for these combatants are fervently trying to do - this will be a complete disaster.

My guess is that it will. Full Constitutional rights given to terrorists captured overseas on the battlefield.

What a way to run a war.

SMG

JM Hanes

Rick:

I'm just reading from the indictment. Jefferson's first cited stab at incorporation (under his own name, no less!) came in 1983 but that outfit had its "authority to do business in Louisiana" revoked in November 1990 -- which also happens to be when he would have been elected to Congress for the first time. I suppose it's safe to speculate that he was never up to any good, but the indictment skips directly to Y2K, when he had clearly transitioned to LLC's.

He set up two LLC's in August & October of 2000. He set up the pivotal ANJ in January 2001, followed by LLC's in January 2002, May 2002, March 2003, ending up with his only unadorned Inc. in July 2005.

Clearly, he had something big in mind, and I rather doubt he started spawning companies on the spur of the moment. He probably had to wait till he had enough seniority to work his contacts and arrange his own unsupervised jaunts.

Of course, by the time TypeKey actually allows me to log my post, this will all be old news.

RichatUF

Rick...

Kinda puts Munchies resignation in late '98 in a new light...

I suspect a lot of people are nervous with this indictment. It's not just Rep. Jefferson but they have pretty much the whole family-investigators might have some leverage

RichatUF

hoosierhoops

Thanks H&R,OT, et.al you folks rock..
So SMG Today they released a terrorist from Gitmo that killed an American Sargent with a grenade...
I read about it on the CNN web site...
So this is international or military justice?
I wonder if the detanees will get absentee Ballots for the election...
I'll bet hillary is counting on it.

Rocco

Thank you all but most of this stuff comes from the real Aces out here, Fedora, Mac, AJ, Seixon and you. I just wish I could remember where I find this stuff so I could give credit where due.

And then again...I could be totally wrong too!

Other Tom

Clarice and Lurker, the comment about the Pulitzer was my attempt at irony.

Concerning that military judge's dismissal ("without prejudice") of the charges against those two, at this point I don't see that it poses a threat to the prosecutorial effort in general. From what I have seen so far, he said the charges were defective because they were only found to be "enemy combatants," where as the legislation provides procedures for those found to have been "unlawful enemy combatants." This seems pretty dumb to me, but at this point not fatally dumb. I understand that the prosecutors have said they are going to appeal (I don't know who is the appellate authority), and if they don't prevail on appeal there is nothing I am aware of that would prevent their simply being re-charged using the prescribed statutory language.

"Without prejudice" means "you can try again and see if you get it right."

hoosierhoops

So they don't go free Tom?
That's a relief...

SMGalbraith

So SMG Today they released a terrorist from Gitmo that killed an American Sargent with a grenade...

Well, as I understand it (and that's some mighty shaky ground) none of the detainees will be released. They won't go free.

This has to do with the military commissions which were established to determine the guilt of those determined to be "unlawful enemy combatants."

But the tribunals established earlier (Combatant Status Review Tribunals) to hear whether the detainees were being held properly never determined whether they were lawful or unlawful combatants (i.e., soldiers or terrorists). They just determined whether there was justification for the detainees being held.

Since these detainees were not determined to be "unlawful combatants", they cannot be tried by the commissions.

But new tribunals will have to be established to determine whether they were "lawful" or "unlawful" combatants.

My guess (and fear) is that eventually we'll have federal jurisdiction, civilian courts, constitutional rights for terrorists captured overseas.

The whole nine yards.

SMG

Rick Ballard

JMH,

There is something about the inclusion of the RICO charges that's tickling my brain. It may be that the prosecutor is trying to hold on to further prosecutions based upon the conspiracy plus RICO. That little dribble the other day concerning the other Black Caucus members taking the junket might have been a hint.

If a few more of them wind up on the rocket docket we'll have high entertainment value right through the next election.

PeterUK.

A blast from the pastWilson and Jefferson,Africa.

clarice

SMG, Today Glenn Reynolds notes that this war has been way over-lawyered and made clear that that didn't necessarily mean well-lawyered. I think he's right. (See the "Haditha massacre", for example and the need to get Jag approval for military actions.PHEH).

clarice

SMG, Today Glenn Reynolds notes that this war has been way over-lawyered and made clear that that didn't necessarily mean well-lawyered. I think he's right. (See the "Haditha massacre", for example and the need to get Jag approval for military actions.PHEH).

Rick Ballard

It might be dotting i's and crossing t's regarding the detainees. After all, the law was passed subsequent to the determinations made by the military commission concerning many of the detainees and, given the fact that there were no legal (per the GC) enemy combatants on the field in Afghanistan, the military commissions lack of the use word "illegal" may have been simple avoidance of redundancy.

JM Hanes

Rick:

Here's another pre-2005 Ex-Im reference from p. 22 of the Indictment (I blame TypeKey for any errors in my typing):

82. On or about July 9, 2004, Jackson, on behalf of iGare, signed an agreement that required CW's company to pay iGate approximately $45 million for the exclusive right to use iGate's technology and equipment for a telecommunications venture in Nigeria, which included an anticipated loan guarantee from the Ex-Im Bank.

RichatUF beat me to the first one. He may be a "slow reader and slower typer," but man, the guy can post.

Hard to guess how much of value Pfeffer might have offered up on any one else from his "mid-1990's" stint as a Congressional staffer, but since investigators had been working with Cooperating Witness "CW" for nearly 6 months by the time Jefferson froze his assets, I wouldn't be surprised if there are other potential indictments in the offing. It's not like he was exactly flying under the Congressional radar. Given Denny Hastert's intemperate defense of Capitol Hill privileges, though, any extra heads that roll may not be the ones you might expect. I know I sure wish Jefferson had a Pennsylvania LLC in his collection.

We should probably be taking bets on whether or not Jefferson himself can manage to buy his way down to a lesser charge with goods he's got on other folks. A law degree from Harvard and a "Masters of Laws Degree in Taxation" from Georgetown U., mean he can plead innocent, but not innocence, and that's got to hurt his chances in court.

JM Hanes

lurker:

With regard to "unindicted co-conspirators," think Murtha.

SMGalbraith

It might be dotting i's and crossing t's regarding the detainees.

Many of the defense lawyers for these detainees come from some of the top law firms or schools in the country (Jonathan Turley represents two clients; I wonder if any GWU resources are going for him "work"?).

Meanwhile, the military lawyers are, well, military lawyers. Fine folks but no match for some of these top flight lawyers who spend endless hours and devote endless resources to picking apart the laws.

One they find a flaw, a gap, they're ready to pounce. And once that is adjudicated, challenge and challenge and challenge again in a new area with the ultimate goal of forcing these into civilian courts.

It's clear that that has always been the overall goal. Foulup/delay the current military process until it's unworkable and then find a federal judge who will rule in their favor.

They're not going to give up. And the lawyer who is successful in getting this under federal jurisdiction will be hailed as this generation's real life Atticus Finch.

SMG

Rick Ballard

JMH,

There's an outside chance that there's a Republican in the prosecutors net but I won't lose any sleep over crooked Congressmen. The prosecutor has the leverage of Jefferson's kids (obvious conspiracy members) with which to squeeze. That's pretty good leverage unless the Honorable William J. Jefferson wants to hold family reunions at Leavenworth on a continuous basis for the next ten years.

SMG,

Did the defense even raise the argument or was the judge just avoiding an issue sure to be raised on appeal?

lurker9876

Re: Murtha...YUCK! It was only yesterday that Murtha made some weird comments about blaming the Iraqi war on the JFK plot.

So, we're just a few hours before we find out how much jail time Libby gets for being falsely convicted based on lack of evidence.

SMGalbraith

Did the defense even raise the argument or was the judge just avoiding an issue sure to be raised on appeal?

It appears that the judges (two) on their own ruled that they had no jurisdiction to try the suspects since they did not fall under the "unlawful combatants" standard that the law setting up the commissions requires.

And we have this latest tidbit:

U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, said he plans to hold hearings on the Military Commissions Act, which he said is "riddled with problems and created a process that operates outside the rule of law — it has crippled our ability to deal with the real criminals still being held at Guantanamo."


anduril

I see there's been some mention above about CAIR. If you google "CAIR FBI Mueller" you come up with some interesting results.

clarice

Like this, anduril:"WorldNetDaily.com, Dec. 2


FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a “sensitivity training” workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.

Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism chiefs as a spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on “Islam and the American Muslim community” at the FBI’s Jacksonville Division All Employee Conference.

CAIR’s Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that “more than 150 law enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force supervisory personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to improve interactions with the Muslim community.”

For years a friend in the Pentagon has been writing to me of simple crap there.

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