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October 28, 2007

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clarice

I remember Bush's appearance as heroic. No one knew for certain that he'd be safe in the middle of that vast stadium so soon after 9/11 and his pitch was perfect. It was great for morale.And worth remembering.

PaulL

And the President's pitch was even more impressive compared to Kerry's pitches at Fenway in 2004.

Kerry had to move up closer because he couldn't pitch from the mound.

Then when his first pitch hit the dirt, he claimed he didn't want to throw it so hard that it might hurt someone.

To think that this guy would have been President if it weren't for my state!

PaulL

And the President's pitch was even more impressive compared to Kerry's pitches at Fenway in 2004.

Kerry had to move up closer because he couldn't pitch from the mound.

Then when his first pitch hit the dirt, he claimed he didn't want to throw it so hard that it might hurt someone.

To think that this guy would have been President if it weren't for my state!

F. Siegler

I find it ironic that history is determined by press reports of the day. Someone once noted that freedom of the press is limited to those who own one. Think about it...a reporter writes his version of what an eyewitness describes. The eye witness dies and any discrepancies between the eye witness version and the reporter’s version go away. The reporter’s version survives...unless someone can find the eye witness account.

Here’s a personal eye witness account of something that actually happened but has been denied by hundreds of press reports: the Gulf of Tonkin incident involving the USS MADDOX that led to President Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam “war”.

I was there…at 3,000 feet and twenty miles away in a Navy E1B aircraft equipped with a powerful radar. I directed strike aircraft to protect our ships as I saw raw video on the radar scope of at least 12 small boats darting in and around the USS Maddox. I also established relay communications with the USS Ticonderoga and heard the combat information officer aboard the USS Maddox report multiple torpedoes running under the ship. The only reason they did not sink her was the fact that the Maddox was at the end of her time on station in the Gulf of Tonkin and was low on fuel so was running high in the water. The torpedoes were set to run at a depth too low to hit her.

I have a letter of commendation for my actions that night from Admiral Roy L. Johnson to prove the above. You’ll find it in Navy records as Ser: 002-1406 dated 12 October 1964.

I subsequently served two tours in Vietnam and was awarded a chest full of medals. Two of those medals were from President Johnson who, as you might recall, caved in to public polls and MSM pressure and gave up.

Another example of a Democratic politician praising heroism without showing any. And another example of how press reports will distort and even ignore actual events.

Uncle Bigbad

PaulL

Well said (and worth saying twice)

F. Siegler

It's frustrating for all of us who know the truth amidst the lies, and it must be doubly so for folks such as yourself, who were there.

capitano

PaulL -- Well said, thrice. As I recall, Bush pitched a perfect strike from the mound, wearing a kevlar vest.

Kerry is, and always will be, a douche.

Neo
Chief UN nuclear watchdog Mohamed ElBaradei Sunday accused Israel of taking “the law into their own hands” with a raid on Syria, and demanded more information about what was hit.

Israel responds (or at least they should) .. if you don't know, we're not going to tell you

jpe
nor was everyone certain that baseball could continue as usual.

That's an eyeroller of the highest degree.

bgates

an eyeroller of the highest degree
-what degree is that? PhD?

As I'm sure jpe wants to remind us, everyone has always hated Bush. No one but Bush ever thought Iraq had connections to terrorists, or an interest in WMDs. We have always been at war with Eastasia. These are not the droids you're looking for.

Jane

Right now, at this time and place, shouldn't we all be marveling at the Red Sox? Can't we all simply unite over Manny and Papelbon, Beckett and Lowe?

All together now....

PaulL

bgates:

Orwell's 1984 just seems to have nailed it more and more as time passes.

Especially I am frequently reminded of the "memory hole." We can usually call up the original statement or article on the internet, but Democrats pretend like that is irrelevant. Witness Harry Reid denying he said the California fires were caused by global warming, just hours after he said it.

I don't know if it's necessary to expunge the old documents when the lying MSM gives Reid a pass on everything he does. Why hasn't the NYTimes run stories on the front page for 52 days straight about Reid's corrupt land deals in Vegas, like they ran stories on Abu Ghraib? What about the WashPost--surely a corrupt Speaker of the House warrants a few months of stories if the name "macaca" was worthy?

jpe
As I'm sure jpe wants to remind us, everyone has always hated Bush

Are you on crack? I was mocking the insane assertion that there was a risk there'd never be baseball after 9/11, as if the MLB would fold from despair. In the words of Ralph Wiggum, you're a grade A moron.

MayBee

I was mocking the insane assertion that there was a risk there'd never be baseball after 9/11,

Who made that assertion?

glasater

"you're a grade A moron."

Around here it is "maroon"

--and what's the deal with JMAX? Been voting my fingers to the bone and she's not moving up in percentage.

Walter

Anyone following the Colbert campaign?

One of my law school classmates has an interesting take:

Scene 12:

Camera pans across hearing room, as Stephen Colbert takes his seat at a witness table, reporters scurry as we hear a gavel.

Lenhard: Please, please everybody come to order.Mr. Colbert, you understand the allegations madeabout the funding of your candidacy.We here at the FEC want to know why we shouldturn a blind eye to the immense aggregationsof wealth of Comedy Central . . . indeed ofViacom. In truthi . . .

Colbert (shouting): Truthiness?You can't HANDLE the truthiness!

bgates

Now, jpe, try to be civil, or after my next date with your mother I'm going to have to come down to the basement and give you a little talking to.

"a risk there'd never be baseball after 9/11" seems like a misreading of "nor was everyone certain that baseball could continue as usual". Not a misreading 'of the highest degree', but maybe a brown-belt level misreading.

Barry Dauphin

Chief UN nuclear watchdog Mohamed ElBaradei Sunday accused Israel of taking “the law into their own hands” with a raid on Syria, and demanded more information about what was hit.

So now ElBaradei is also an expert on international law. What a Renaissance man.

Ralph L

I was visiting my Dad on Sept 30, 2001, a beautiful day, and we drove by the White House, through an ANSWER protest, and then walked up to the Capitol. There was a group of Morris dancers and a dozen spectators at the foot of the hill. At the building itself, there was one policeman on each front and no one else.

It still amazes me there has been no follow up attack on us, or was it disrupted? How stupid can Bin Laden be?

kim

Baptism, AKA 'waterboarding' is a smart bomb to the Cental Nervous System. Check out 'diving reflex'.
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kim

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kim

It seems the UN and El Baradei have as purpose to enable the Muslim bomb, perhaps in some MAD scheme to balance the infidels' hegemony. They should be shocked that the US and Israel don't share information with them?

I can't wait until the politically active arabists, Val Plame and Joe Wilson, are connected to the effort.
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Gmax

Remember to keep voting. Cavalry has been summoned.

http://soccer.seniorclassaward.com/public/women/vote.aspx>Vote for JMAX!

davod

F. Siegler:

There is no doubt that those in the water at the Gulf of Tonkin thought they were under attack. Your post and the after action reports by the Ships involved attest to that.

There are contradicting reports. Admiral Stockdale had a flight of aircraft in the area and saw nothing. I do not know whether this information was avaialable at the time the White house decided to escalate.

The tapes of the ships sonar/radars were flown to the CIA (Technical Intelligence) for evaluation. The CIA did review the tapes and came to the conclusion that the information was erronious because of the depth the ships were operating and the sea state. This information was not taken into account when the decision was made to escalate because the White House would not wait the extra hours needed to undertake the evaluation.

Ralph L

CIA had more expertise with sonar and radar than the Navy? Or were they more trustworthy?

kim

NEL would know best.
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