The NY Times shocks us with the news that Iraq is corrupt. Well, that settles it - if American auditors and comptrollers went into Iraq with no plan for winning the peace, and if we can't hope to bring about a reconciliation of the national accounts, it is time to withdraw.
MORE: Don Surber notes that if you've lost the car washes, you've lost everything.
John Quiggin at Crooked Timber makes the point that the coalition encouraged this (as if the UN sanctions did not) and closes sensibly:
The good news in the NY Times report is that the civil war in Iraq, while still bloody has abated to the point that a report like this is worth paying attention to. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, things are getting worse. More on this later, but one general lesson is that war is unpredictable and should always be a last resort. All wars come to an end, but that doesn’t bring the dead back to life, or turn a tragedy into a triumph.
And Joe Klein, apparently desperate to regain some lefty cred after his FISA lashing, Keeps Despair Alive:
Two points: Obviously, there is absolutely nothing the U.S. military presence can do about this. And less obviously, there is very little the Iraqis can do about this, either....
This is another reason why Bush's "Freedom Agenda" has always sounded so foolish in the region. It is also another reason to begin the troop withdrawals now.
We went in with too few auditors, but maybe it is not too late for an international Coalition of the Billing to sort this out. By the hour.
Well, even if Mr. Klein is right and a relatively honest democratic government is not a realistic goal for Iraq, it hardly follows that immediate US withdrawal is the only logical alternative. Perhaps we can reasonably aspire to a stable but corrupt government where the Sunnis and Shiites bribe each other rather than shoot each other. And the good news is, Mr. Klein can still declare this to be a defeat!
He's also a personable populist; only Fred resembles.
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Posted by: kim | December 03, 2007 at 01:57 PM
I know Huckabee has raised taxes at times (the one area where he is not Bush's heir). What's the problem on immigration? His website offers the usual stuff on enforcing the borders and being against the "amnesty" supported by Bush and McCain.
(Question isn't rhetorical, by the way. I am wondering.)
Posted by: Appalled Moderate | December 03, 2007 at 02:00 PM
AM,
Huckabee was on THis Week (ABC Sunday Show). I didn't watch it but here's a link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3943214&page=1
Posted by: Ann | December 03, 2007 at 02:17 PM
Exactly, kim - I was being sarcastic, sorry if I wasn't clear. Here in Austin the bumpers sporting both Ron Paul and Alex Jones stickers are legion.
AM, Huckabee supported tuition breaks for illegals in AR. See factcheck.org's CNN/YouTube debate analysis for more info (scroll down). It also comes up in the Stephanopoulos interview that Ann linked - George did a creditable job of trying to pin him down on it.
Posted by: Porchlight | December 03, 2007 at 02:38 PM
Actually I thought Hillary got boo-ed in Iowa on immigration for not agreeing to let all the illegals in - not keeping them out. I could be wrong.
AM - Huckabee proposed scholarships for illegals in Arkansas. That's a BIG problem I think.
Posted by: Jane | December 03, 2007 at 02:48 PM
First he proposed scholarships for well-performing illegal aliens.
Then he proposed instate tuition for children of illegal immigrants that had been in AR schools for as little as 3 years.
Then he OPPOSED checking for US Citizenship when people in AR registered to vote.
FWIW, Arkansas brings in a lot of labor for its chicken and agriculture businesses.
Posted by: MayBee | December 03, 2007 at 03:03 PM
Yup, PL, these libertarian progressives are a new breed and peculiarly conflicted.
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Posted by: kim | December 03, 2007 at 03:10 PM
It's because of Bush. & the fact that Americans ruin things for themselves (and others).
Posted by: B33 | November 25, 2008 at 10:07 AM