Mark Halperin of TIME suggests sixteen things "McCain Can Do to Try to Beat Obama That Clinton Cannot" yet misses a point that belongs in the top two. David Brooks suggested it, Karl Rove echoed it, and I will summarize it as "When does Obama's bipartisanship begin?" Here is Brooks:
If he values independent thinking, why is his the most predictable liberal vote in the Senate? A People for the American Way computer program would cast the same votes for cheaper.
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How is a 47-year-old novice going to unify highly polarized 70-something committee chairs? What will happen if the nation’s 261,000 lobbyists don’t see the light, even after the laying on of hands? Does The Changemaker have the guts to take on the special interests in his own party — the trial lawyers, the teachers’ unions, the AARP?
The Gang of 14 created bipartisan unity on judges, but Obama sat it out. Kennedy and McCain created a bipartisan deal on immigration. Obama opted out of the parts that displeased the unions. Sixty-eight senators supported a bipartisan deal on FISA. Obama voted no.
As to being the most predictable liberal vote, views differ, but Obama's voting record puts him to the left of the median Democratic Senator.
Here is Rove's take on the same argument:
Mr. McCain can now question Mr. Obama's promise to change Washington by working across party lines. Mr. Obama hasn't worked across party lines since coming to town. Was he a member of the "Gang of 14" that tried to find common ground between the parties on judicial nominations? Was Mr. Obama part of the bipartisan leadership that tackled other thorny issues like energy, immigration or terrorist surveillance legislation? No. Mr. Obama has been one of the most dependably partisan votes in the Senate.
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The truth is that Mr. Obama is unwilling to challenge special interests if they represent the financial and political muscle of the Democratic left. He says yes to the lobbyists of the AFL-CIO when they demand card-check legislation to take away the right of workers to have a secret ballot in unionization efforts, or when they oppose trade deals. He won't break with trial lawyers, even when they demand the ability to sue telecom companies that make it possible for intelligence agencies to intercept communications between terrorists abroad. And he is now going out of his way to proclaim fidelity to the educational unions. This is a disappointment since he'd earlier indicated an openness to education reform. Mr. Obama backs their agenda down the line, even calling for an end to testing, which is the only way parents can know with confidence whether their children are learning and their schools working.
These stands represent not just policy vulnerabilities, but also a real danger to Mr. Obama's credibility and authenticity. He cannot proclaim his goal is the end of influence for lobbies if the only influences he seeks to end are lobbies of the center and the right.
In John McCain, Obama has an opponent who has walked the bipartisan walk for years and paid a political price within his own party for doing so; FWIW, Brooks could have added carbon dioxide regulation (or here) to McCain's list of initiatives that set teeth on edge in his own party.
Why hasn't Obama been bringing "change" to Washington in his four years there? When, if ever, has Obama actually engaged in the wonderful bipartisanship about which he speaks so movingly? At the Harvard Law Review? Jiminy, if he touts his ability to unite the disparate views of a bunch of young would-be lawyers during a televised debate, that will make for Must-See TV.
Now, this is a tricky line for McCain to take, since as he burnishes his appeal to centrists he will also be reminding righties why we have problems with him. Also, some of his views have evolved (we hope!), as on immigration. However, if voters want a guy who can talk about change, Obama is a great choice; if they want a guy who has actually reached across the aisle, brought change, and shown the willingness to pay the price, they want McCain.
NOTE: If Halperin did not completely miss this point, he disguised it here:
14. Link biography (experience/courage) and leadership (straight talk) to a vision animated by detail – accentuating Obama’s relative lack of specificity.
Dunno why McCain couldn't offer a co-sponsorship to BHO on something to do with their day jobs. Maybe a nice redo on immigration with a strong "secure the border first" proviso?
Or just pick something out of BHO's own HOPE and CHANGE list and start offering to co-sponsor. Surely, with four months to go before America can sleep more easily because Congress has left town, McCain and his team can figure out a few nice legislative tactics which might highlight the difference between BHO's talk and his votes.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 25, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I dunno about the secure the border idea, Rick. McCain would have to reach across the aisle (to the Republican side for a change) for that one.
Posted by: Bill in AZ | February 25, 2008 at 11:25 PM
TM: I thought Halperin's list read like a parody!
Posted by: JM Hanes | February 25, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Good call, JMH.
Posted by: Elliott | February 25, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Sincerity and the utility were excellently matched by Halperin.
Bill,
I suppose I should check out BHO's website and see what McCain's most entertaining choice for the offer might be. You never know - McCain might be willing to reach out to Republicans as well.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 25, 2008 at 11:43 PM
What about getting him(O) to release his hold on FEC appointments so the law designed to keep elections "clean" can have some effect?
Posted by: clarice | February 25, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Sorry to go OT here but saw this item via Drudge-
Hide the Silverware
graf-
When all else fails-the Clinton Dirt card...
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2008 at 12:05 AM
O is to young to have been in the secreted FBI files and Pellicano's in jail so what is she going to hit him with--soiling his pants in nursery school? To date her "attacks" have been laughable.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Rich,
Sounds like tomorrow night it's going to be the Frau Blucher/Nurse Ratched persona.
Or maybe - Maleficent - LIVE.
Time for another donation to the Blind Newt Foundation.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2008 at 12:19 AM
What would be the downside of Obama loosing his voice tomorrow?
It surely would frost the Red Witch. And if she went after him for not debating, it would make her look even colder...just thinking.
I bet Hit would be proud of my cynicism. :)
Posted by: Ann | February 26, 2008 at 12:31 AM
McCain could prolly sell Obama on some good sound conservative 2nd amendment legislation - like ban all weapons except old rusty bolt action rifles for us few remaining 2nd amendment hunters. Now there would be a differentiator that would set the race on end. Obama's end.
Posted by: Bill in AZ | February 26, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Rove claims Obama "won't break with the trial lawyers". Actually, he was one of 18 Democrats to join with Republicans in February '05 for a bill opposed by the trial bar that made it harder to get class action suits certified.
Posted by: Foo Bar | February 26, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Rove claims Obama hasn't worked across party lines since coming to town. Actually, he was one of 9 Democrats who voted with Republicans in support of the amendment of Jim DeMint (R-SC) that contained a much stronger version of earmark disclosure than Harry Reid wanted. He also worked with Tom Coburn to sponsor the Federal Funding Accountability Act of 2006, which required the creation of a searchable database fully disclosing all organizations receiving federal funds. Two notorious kings of pork, Ted Stevens and Robert Byrd, tried to hold up the bill with secret holds but were ultimately unsuccessful.
Posted by: Foo Bar | February 26, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Rove claims Obama backs the teachers unions down the line. If he has some evidence that Obama has recanted his support for merit pay, which he declared right in front of the NEA, he should have included it in his column. The National Journal had this to say in a piece appearing today:
Posted by: Foo Bar | February 26, 2008 at 12:49 AM
McCain will see the light about carbon dioxide as the paradigm shatters. Fred Thompson understood the fraud and was right about Libby, too. Where did his advisers go?
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Posted by: kim | February 26, 2008 at 04:05 AM
The business about charter schools illustrates a couple of fault lines. They've been pretty successful as an alternate way of doing things, particularly in inner cities where traditional public education has failed most miserably.
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Posted by: kim | February 26, 2008 at 04:08 AM
I cannot help but wonder why black and African- Americans would support the Senator who votes to continue Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger's "Negro Project".
Posted by: syn | February 26, 2008 at 07:09 AM
Capt ed has got a pretty explosive Obama/Saddam/Rezco story.
Link under my name.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 08:14 AM
"Rezko" Sheesh
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 09:06 AM
Well I have to admit it, Foo has sure convinced me. The guy, Obama, is a slobbering centrist or maybe even a closet conservative. That National Journal rag, nobody gives them credibility like the New Republic or the NYT, so it does not matter one whit that they somehow found him to be the most liberal member of the Senate. Heck he probably just voted No when he meant Yes and vice versa. You cant expect a busy Senator to understand the difference can you? And what a ridiculous idea to look at his voting record to figure out where he comes down on issues!
No foo you nailed it. Nothing but net.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 09:15 AM
Foo Bar- from your National Journal link:
Perhaps that is what Rove was referring to.
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I have no doubt that, the aptly named, FooBar is correct when he claims that Obama has done a couple of things right during his career.
I would be more comfortable if Obama would pledge to change personally, from the hyper-partisan liberal that he has been since he entered politics.
In his stump speech, Obama claims that as President he will behave the way John McCain has behaved for the last couple decades.
I support Barack in his quest for self improvement. I would even say that, if Obama behaves like John McCain for 2 decades, he might make a good president.
Posted by: MikeS | February 26, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Well, after a little research I have managed to restore my faith in my memory. I'm 99% sure it was Obama who said that voting to filibuster Alito was "a dumb idea, but I'm going to do it for party unity."
The closet I've been able to come to finding the actual quote is from a news story at the time that said:
"Despite his criticism, Obama announced his intention to support the maneuver designed to block - or delay - Alito’s confirmation this week."
Looks like even back then the press was looking out for him by avoiding direct quotes when he says something "dumb".
So, how he Obama going to bring us together when he has already proven he will vote against his own feelings in the name of party unity?
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM
BTW this fun fact has not been widely played about the Rezko land deal with Obama courtesy of the Times of London.
Did you know from any discussion so far that the "garden land Plot" that Rezko's wife bought the same day that Obama bought his house at an almost 20% discount off list price, was ONLY accessible from Obama's property. That right it was apparently landlocked. Obama claims to have never used the land, but did have his gardener mow it.
As a guy who has bought and resold hundreds if not thousands of acres of land over the years, I can say with utter confidence that plots of land with Helicopter only access have little value to anyone except the guy who controls the access. Some states have laws that allow you to force access if you are truly landlocked, but I am guessing that Illinois is not one of them. Without access, you can never enjoy the land, use the land or do anything except pay taxes on the land. And its rare your neighbor is so "kind" as to relieve you of the cost and burden of keeping it mowed.
This nails it for me, he accepted a bribe, well disguised, but the substance is still that.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I'm patiently waiting for this headline:
"HILLARY DROPS OUT OF RACE. THROWS SUPPORT TO McCAIN."
As the famed Roman emperor Clintonius Bodacious Maximus once said, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Posted by: MarkJ | February 26, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Has Rezko declared the value of the mowing as income? This is probably de minimus, but still.
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Posted by: kim | February 26, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Jane-
Great story from across the pond-but I'm curious how the needle will get threaded on all this.
More here re: Rezko's business practices. Did Rick ever figure out which US Congressional Districts BHO's former Il state senate seat overlap? Did Scary Larry stay up last night working on this?
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2008 at 10:36 AM
GMax,
It wasn't all that well disguised. The person selling the property is on record as saying their justification for giving the Obama's the discount on the house was that the adjoining plot (which the Rezkos purchased the same day) sold at full asking price. So, there is a direct connection between the Rezko deal and the reduced price for Obama.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM
GMax-
This nails it for me, he accepted a bribe, well disguised, but the substance is still that.
I'm confused by it all-why couldn't he have been like Cold Cash and just got it in an icebox?
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2008 at 10:51 AM
My bad.... I mis-read the article the first time. It says the sellers deny they gave the Obama's a $300,000 price cut because the adjoining plot sold at full price. That does seem hard to believe. Why sell two plots on the same day under such different terms? It seems hard to believe that the sellers didn't take into account that Obama was the new Senator from their state when they negotiated the deal.
On the up side, politicians seem to be getting more exspensive to buy. Back in the old days it only cost $100,000 in laundered cattle futures to buy a state governor. Now, considering the price reduction on the house and savings in interest payments on the loan, they had to give Obama around $500,000.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM
I'm curious how the needle will get threaded on all this.
It won't get threaded at all, except as the Messiah as a victim. Old media will sit on its hands.
It certainly explains to me why Obama opposed the Iraq war. He's not quite as Godlike as he would have us believe.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Okay, I'm at work and not following the comment thread that closely, so forgive if this is OLD news:
Fitz is on the Rezko case. Ha Ha! (saw it over at NRO)
Posted by: centralcal | February 26, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Rick Moran has a lot more on Auchi, as does the link under my name.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Jane-
It certainly explains to me why Obama opposed the Iraq war. He's not quite as Godlike as he would have us believe.
The article says that the house and the garden plot were bought in June 2005. Now I'm curious if IL has a set of securities laws similiar to NY and if BHO might have had some sort of committee assignment touching on the CBOT and CME? Too much-I'm drinking from the paranoid style...
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I don't have any confidence at all that Fitz is an equal opportunity prosecutor. I hope he proves me wrong.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 11:19 AM
After a more detailed re-read I think this Rezko thing could really hurt Obama because it will alienate middle class homeowners a lot. Obama wanted to buy a nice house when got the promotion from State to US Senator. The house he wanted was part of a package deal of two plots of land with an asking price of around $2.6 mil. Obama couldn't afford that, so he called his good buddy, Tony Rezko, who worked it out so that Obama got the house he wanted for $1.65 mil.
How many Americans had to pass on their "dream house" because they couldn't afford the payments?
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 11:21 AM
You dont expect a Princeton and Harvard educated lawyer spouse to be able to understand real estate law do you? And the Senator was busy, heck he got confused.
Since the seller ( grantor ) created the problem by separating the tracts I think its likely in most states that a court would find the Ms Rezko stepped into the shoes of the grantor and thus has no prescriptive rights to fix the land being without access to a road, by use of a easement of necessity.
The reality is that lack of access would be pointed out on a survey and on a title policy which I am sure Mrs. Rezko got for a $600,000 land parcel.
The Obamas got a big discount and use of an adjacent tract for the cost of their mowing contract. That is most likely a very large sum of money, even in the world shady Chicago political deals.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 11:21 AM
There was a mole in the Chicago commercial real estate investigation out of--it sounds like--SDNY.
Fitz at work perhaps?
"And in an unusual move, prosecutors asked for a court order allowing Mr. Thomas to commit crimes during the investigation, a tell-tale sign that Mr. Thomas was part of an undercover “sting operation.” The court granted the request."
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Why would a billionaire who is not allowed to travel to the USA want to buy a Chicago politician? Unless he thought it was likely that Obama would run for President.
Some smoke, look for the fire.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Jane-
Dots...
Posted by: RichatUF | February 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Here's an article, Michelle Obama and the Rage of a Privileged Class, that places the Rezko deal in a larger context--one that speaks volumes about the Obamas. It's amusing to see these crusaders for "change" (who rub elbows with the liberal elite at the home of Ayers and Dohrn) doing things the old fashioned Chicago way. Plus ça change...
The entire article is worth a read, but I'll paste in a small portion. We've all read about Michelle's adventures at Princeton. I'll first paste in the author's reason's for believing Michelle's views on race are important, then commence with her experience at Harvard:
OK, on to Harvard:
Follow the link to the main article for the many links that the article contains to other documentation.
Posted by: anduril | February 26, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Rezko was just helping people that- through no fault of their own- could not afford to pay the mortgage on the house they wanted.
I think we will see this work its way into Obama's economic plan. Defaulting on your mortgage? No problem. The government will buy a portion of your yard for you. Rezko will be the HUD director overseeing the program. It's all good.
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Appears to me that Obama is not interested in crossing party lines but going around them -- around to the Brave New World that he sees beyond the current mess.
Justification for the sweet land deal is that it was done in a positive manner, by someone who truly understands positive. Which is why Hillary's picking on him is starting to sound pleasant. Open the clouds, let that sun shine, sister.
Posted by: JJ | February 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Anduril,
That's all pretty amazing.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Good wrok, anduril--She bombed at Sidley Austin obviously..I've known for a while that she's holding a ridiculously oversompensated make work job to subsidize the family coffers.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Mrs Rezko who bought the land for $625,000? She has an on the record deposition that she had $35,000 annual income and about $25,000 in assets. How did she buy the land? Well sometimes this is referred to as a strawman purchaser. Follow the money, as I am sure the prosecutor is doing right now.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 11:57 AM
I'm sure the Obamas are by far not the only couple to profit from the race hustling/diversity business, nor is Chicago the only place where it's practiced. It does say a lot about what's happened to the American ideal--not that we were ever ideal, but that we can so cynically take this (and, yes, the whole lobbying business) for granted.
Overall, I prefer to contemplate this Dynamic Duo.
Posted by: anduril | February 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Back to McCain's strategy for Obama. Why not do what Harry Reid did, reach into his wallet, unfold a little piece of paper and read a quote, only this one from one Ralph Nader. Ralph when asked about Barack Obama:
“His record in the Senate is pretty mediocre,” Nader said. “His most distinctive characteristic is the extent to which he censors himself."
Get that, its a two fer. Ralph calls him mediocre and then Mr. Green Party says he has been hiding his true beliefs in the Senate by censoring himself. So he is even more liberal than the National Journal says, but works not to show it. Are you kidding me?
Slowly fold up paper and put it back in wallet. "Any other questions?"
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Yes, Fitz is in a very dificult position here. It would appear that his only chance of keeping his job is a D win in November. But, this investigation gives him an option. If the polls are going against Obama, but close, he could drop an indictment on the Obama land deal in October and become the hero for McCain and save his job in the next administration. And, of course, it would be fun to see all those people on the left who worship Fitz turn on him overnight.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I think talking about Michelle Obama being an Affirmative Action education beneficiary/hire is not productive. Many people say the same about Clarence Thomas.
The truth is, AA has been the policy of the country and people who benefit do so through no choice of their own.
It is perfectly acceptable to talk about whether her job is basically a payment to Obama, IMHO. The AA stuff should just be left out.
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Don't agree that the AA factor is based on disapproval of AA in general. It seems to have had a significant effect on the course of MO's career and attitude beyond the "intended" assist.
The Clarence claim is hypocrisy, he benefited but opposes. Yet it is "good" for whites to oppose white privilege even if they benefited from it. To discredit any discussion of AA bazsed on that false logic is not reasonable.
Posted by: boris | February 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM
MayBee
I will respectfully disagree. Its rare that we get a chance with the full kleig lights of a National campaign to highlight the misguided policy of affirmative action.
It is perfectly acceptable to point out that if you are expecting AA to bring about an attitude change, you are sadly mistaken.
Plus its pretty hard for middle class Americans who have no chance of getting their offspring into an Ivy League school, to listen to whining of a HLS grad making $300K a year and married to a US Senator.
It is the lack of color blindness that stains AA, and until it goes there will never be an opportunity to acheive the dream of Dr. King.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Actually, I know a number of people who've turned it down. In particular I remember a girl admitted to Yale on her record, turning down a scholarship available only to Black students with a note saying she'd not been disadvantaged in any way--she lived in the same neighborhood as her lassmates, had enjoyed the advantages of a top private school and saw no reason why she should be singled out for special favors.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM
*Classmates** (dang--I think I have to clean my sticky keyboard or something.)
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM
In regards to McCain's campaing strategy, he should make the argument that he isn't the one that needs to change to live up to the kind of politics that Obama wants to see in Washington.
McCain: I'm not the one who gets sweatheart deals on million dollar homes. I'm not the one that tucks away millions and millions of dollars in earmarks for political friends. That's what politics as usual in Chicago looks like, and that's not me.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Would you want to have heart surgery performed by an AA surgeon?
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM
"Many people say the same about Clarence Thomas."
Thing is, if you listen to Clarence Thomas speak, it doesn't take long to realize that it A) isn't true, or B) doesn't matter, because he does seem to have the intellect to back up his position.
As to Fitz on the Rezco deal.
I predict Rezco gets immunity, it never get investigated back to the money, and the gardener gets indicted for perjury.
Posted by: Pofarmer | February 26, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Maybe Senator Warner can tell us. He has been hospitalized with abnormal heart condition. I'm not even going to start in on one of my conspiracy theories, but if I was to, I would wonder about the timing with the letter to Obama.
Posted by: Sue | February 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Here's an interesting link to Rezko and Iraqi dealings.
Just trying to fill in for Tops for awhile.
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I'm not defending AA as a policy. I just think bludgeoning people that may have benefited from it is a bad idea. Unless they try to throw their (obviously ginned up) credentials around.
Clarice, the girl you know sounds outstanding.
glasater- what do they call the person who graduates at the bottom of his med school class?
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I dunno--Maybee.
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Was just a lowly english major with an ed minor.
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM
She is. So are lots of minority kids I know who know the score...mostly by applying only to schools where they know they are within the normal range of applicants and not getting shoved up because of their race. In the end, it works to their great advantage--they end up doing well, getting the degrees they aimed for instead of Ivy degrees in area studies and a shot at cleaning aquariums after graduation to pay their loans.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM
glasater- Doctor
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM
GMax,
If you want to make an assessment of the lot, here is the aerial view (if it doesn't come through, the house street address is 5046 South Greenwood Ave., 60615). This blog traces the purchase details. Some of the transaction details are here and you can "pin" down the docs here.
The telling thing about the lot transaction is that the seller required lot and house to close together - he didn't want to chance getting stuck with a helicopter pad worth considerably less than he received.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2008 at 01:05 PM
So are lots of minority kids I know who know the score...mostly by applying only to schools where they know they are within the normal range of applicants and not getting shoved up because of their race
You make an excellent point. A while ago, I saw a study about people who are shoved up because of their race, and how often they fail in school. If I weren't lazy, I'd look for it now. Anecdotally, I know several.
However, it isn't always easy to tell when someone has been selected to meet a quota, even if they are within an acceptable range. The Ivy League schools have always been a bit...capricious...in their acceptances. Her brother was a basketball star at Princeton when she would have applied, so that may have helped her more than a tad.
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 01:06 PM
AA doesn't work by itself. You have to have drive and a work ethic along with the opportunity.
I worked full time while in law school full time. Around third year I realized that all my black friends didn't work and had full scholarships. I had none. I complained to a black friend and she said not to worry, she would get me a scholarship - (since she was on the committee) and a few weeks later I got $2000 credit on my bill.
Most of these kids had been gaming the system since college. For the most part they were smart enough but they didn't have a great work ethic. And that's the problem with hand-outs. Handouts diminish drive.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 01:10 PM
"glasater- Doctor"
So Maybee--would you want to go to a doctor who had graduated last in their class?;-)
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 01:22 PM
“We’ve seen the tragic result of having a president who had neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security,” Mrs. Clinton said in a speech on foreign policy at George Washington University. “We can’t let that happen again.”
Is she referring to Carter or to her husband?
Posted by: jimmyk | February 26, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Given that the two plots had to sell on the same day, even if the owners claim they didn't give Obama a $300,000 discount on the house, Rezko's involvement still gave Obama a $625,000 discount on the property. I think most middle class Americans would see that as a financial favor based on political connections. Not exactly the politics of change.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 01:35 PM
glasater-I wouldn't know if I'd had one.
It's an old joke, so I probably should have put ba-dum-bum after the punchline.
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Bingo! Ranger come to the front to claim your prize.
In real estate you link two purported "independent" transactions for one reason. You are helping out the buyer with a structure issue which you dont mind as long as you are doing nothing illegally, and you want to make damn sure that you dont get played and end up holding a now worthless piece of land.
By the way, the owners were two doctors who just happened to work to the UIC Hospital where Michelle Obama worked. Might explain why the Drs went out of their way to say no favortism shown to the Obamas. It might have made the staff lounge a little less cozy.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 01:50 PM
GMax- have the sellers ever contributed to Obama's campaign?
Posted by: MayBee | February 26, 2008 at 01:56 PM
Maybee--I did smile when I read your comment "doctor" 'cause you caught me fair and square.
GMax, Rick and Ranger--Thank you for your explanations on the real estate transaction. From the aerial photo it really isn't clear how the property is delineated for access problems.
And another problem is how to 'splain this to a very inattentive voter besotted with BHO.
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 02:01 PM
GMax,
Take it one step further - the sale of the "strip" by Rezko to Obama returned Rezko's downpayment. Rezko defaults on the "mortgage" on the helicopter pad, the value of which he has further diminished by reducing its size. Why would the lender on the land agree to such a split?
There's something more than a little stinky about the loan aspect of this deal.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2008 at 02:05 PM
Speculation is loan was from the incredibly wealthy Brit who cant get into this country ( think about that he can get in here due to some concerns about him despite being a gazillionaire ). So if he was buying a politician, the piece of land was just flotsam and jetsam. The transaction was not what was papered and the lot at the back was just window dressing.
I forgot about the strip of land that was sold to Obama by Mrs Rezko later. You are right, Rezko gets downie back, lender ends up with even smaller helicopter pad in an area that looks covered with mature trees, thus a difficult place to land. Parachute would seem out for the same reason.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 02:21 PM
"And another problem is how to 'splain this to a very inattentive voter besotted with BHO."
Posted by: glasater | February 26, 2008 at 02:01 PM
The people who need to hear this are not the people who are besotted with Obama already, it is the middle class voter who isn't paying attention at all yet.
An intersting part of this is the way Obama has attacked "predetory lenders" who provided loans to people they knew couldn't pay. Digging into this whole realestate thing shows that Obama seems to have benefited pretty well personally from a lender who loaned Mrs. Rezko a huge chunk of money when she had very little income or assests. Once again, he is hardly an agent of change in any of this.
Posted by: Ranger | February 26, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Most voters of even barely average intelligence know instinctly what a landlocked parcel of land is worth. When You have to play "mother may I" just to set foot on your property and then play it again to get off, it really reduces the market value a tad. Zero comes to mind but it could be negative, as in " you could not pay me to take title to that."
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 02:24 PM
GMax or anyone, better double check up on the doctors before connecting the dots. The article I cited says Michelle worked at the University of Chicago (UC) Medical Center, further describing it as a private institution--which UC is. "UIC," where you say the doctors worked, is the University of Illinois at Chicago--a branch of the University of Illinois and NOT a private institution.
Here's an interesting article: “Stereotype Threat” a.k.a. Occam's Butterknife. The article deals with the two well known half black half white Steele brothers: Shelby and Claude. Claude has been a proponent of the, for a while, famous Stereotype Threat theory of why certain groups such as blacks do more poorly on standardized intelligence tests such as the SAT than certain other groups (whites, yellows).
After pointing out that this theory (and you can learn all about it by following the link) has been debunked, the author notes that Claude has also dealt with another troubling phenomenon that seems to be a product of AA. The author also makes a shocking suggestion: honesty really may be the best policy, in social policy as in other areas of life--and a decidedly better policy than placing a taboo on the discussion of troubling facts:
Posted by: anduril | February 26, 2008 at 02:32 PM
Jane--you understand that they were, in effect, trying to buy your silence by making you complicit in gaming the system? It's a very sad outlook on life.
glasater--a person who gets an M.D. usually has to pass a state licensing exam before they can practice as a doctor--so you might never have to go to a "doctor" who finished last in his/her class. A friend of one of my brothers who went to Harvard Medical School, generally considered a decent med school, told us that there were plenty of AA admittees who got their M.D.s but then failed the state licensing exams. Apparently med schools, like law schools, figure that the licensing exams are in place to protect the populace from malpractice--a not unreasonable idea--but also to help the schools protect their public image, which might suffer if they flunked out too many of their AA admittees. So they graduate people they know will never practice medicine, content in the knowledge that they've made a statement about their social consciousness. But what a statement!
Posted by: anduril | February 26, 2008 at 02:50 PM
I mistyped. I just double checked to make sure. All three work at the Medical Center for the Univesity of Chicago. Thanks for the correction.
I think the UIC came flying from my fingers from where Professor Ayers of the weather underground hangs out poisoning young minds.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Today is the 15th Anniversary of the WTC bombing. In Miami there was an incident at the airpost where a suspicious man with an Arab name and lots of passports bolted from the security line and was arrested. He had two men traveling with him who'd paid his ticket.
Also in South Fla (Miami and environs) there was a mysterious outage of 8 power stations.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Um, a little political advice guys. Declaring that the wife of the candidate is bitter, angry (and will make hopeful Obama the same way) because of placement in Ivy league schools as a result of affirmative action is...perhaps...a political non-starter?
Better stick to questioning the lady's patriotism...
Posted by: Appalled Moderate | February 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Some info on Rezko's sugar daddy courtesy of Rightwing Nuthouse:
Allow me to introduce you to Nadhmi Auchi. He was charged in the 1950s with being an accomplice of Saddam Hussein, when the future tyrant was acquiring his taste for blood. He was investigated in the 1980s for his part in alleged bribes to the fabulously corrupt leaders of post-war Italy. In the 1990s, the Belgium Ambassador to Luxembourg claimed that Auchi’s bank held money Saddam and Colonel Gadaffi had stolen from their luckless peoples. In 2002, officers from the Serious Fraud Squad raided the offices of one of Auchi’s drug companies as part of an investigation of what is alleged to be the biggest swindle ever of the NHS. With allegations, albeit unproven, like these hanging over him, wouldn’t you think that British MPs would have the sense to stay away?
Perhaps you would, but I forgot to add a final fact about Mr Auchi: he is the thirteenth-richest man in Britain, and he has been able to collect British politicians the way other people collect stamps.
First of all, his business dealings make Rezko’s kickback schemes for political contributions look like the minor leagues of sleaze. Auchi had a hand in the biggest political and corporate scandal in post war Europe, the so-called “Elf Affair” where $2 billion francs up and disappeared from the French state oil company Elf.
In a fantastically complex scheme, oil company execs used the state owned company as their own piggy bank, loading up on goodies:
The Auchi case confirms that the political class is attracted to the sleaziest characters in capitalism. Auchi’s conviction was a part of the gigantic investigation into the corruption of the Elf oil company, the biggest fraud inquiry in Europe since the Second World War. Elf became a private bank for its executives who spent £200 million on political favours, mistresses, jewellery, fine art, villas and apartments. By any definition, this was news.
It was only due to the persistence of the French investigating magistrates that Auchi got to Paris. They issued an international arrest warrant in 2000. For three years, the Home Office refused to deport him. Two MPs, Vaz and an unnamed politician, made inquiries. Renaud van Ruymbeke, the French magistrate leading the investigation into the Elf scandal, all but accused Britain of sheltering fugitives. Only after his protests, and pressure from this newspaper did the Home Office relent. Then there were Auchi’s relations with Iraq which have a certain topicality.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Jane--you understand that they were, in effect, trying to buy your silence by making you complicit in gaming the system? It's a very sad outlook on life.
I dunno, this was the '80's. I wasn't that sophisticated. I was always so grateful for things I probably should have demanded or at least expected.
I've always been a bit of an idiot, albeit a proud one.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 03:11 PM
GMax,
Here is a list of the Rezko transactions re the landing pad. It appears that she used a different lender than BHO (?) and transferred the property to an LLC using another bank. No default filed as yet that I can find.
Is Auchi pronounced "ouchy"?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Could they have been trying to get around some zoning issue?
Was something grandfathered with the property that necessitated the property be sold together to maintain a zoning acception?
I do NOT know real estate but when you follow Rick's link to the County location-it defines the parcel with the title "condo".
Posted by: Anon | February 26, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Hmmm..... Terrorists traditionally like the Florida area.....just sayin in re Clarice's post above....
Posted by: Enlightened | February 26, 2008 at 03:31 PM
I thought I read an article a couple of months ago saying that the Rezkos paid full price on their lot because there was another prospective buyer. I can't find it now though, but I'll keep looking.
Also, in the Rezko Watch items they quote a Chicago Tribune article calling the Rezko's land "a corner lot." Does that mean it does have street access but is currently fenced?
Without further ado, my favorite exerpts from the story in The Times:
An error by Obama? This would seem to put us in the realm of theological disputation. It's interesting to compare the wording of recent Bloomberg ("The Illinois senator has said he made a 'boneheaded' move...") and Chicago Tribune ("He has called their financial dealings 'boneheaded' because...") stories. But here is another news organization that is willing to put the word "mistake" in an Obama story.
Further, I am impressed that his letters did not contain any "make up your minds, my friends," nonsense. In contrast to John McCain, he had the vision and judgment to take a stand.
Let's hope tonight's debate proves damaging for Democratic electoral prospects. It certainly has that potential.
Posted by: Elliott | February 26, 2008 at 03:38 PM
I'm sometimes slow on the uptake myself, but I strongly suspect that was the dynamics of the situation. People who have grown up with that mindset assume that everyone else approaches life in the same way--how can I game the system.
Posted by: anduril | February 26, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Bingo-on that "condo" zoning-
For $1.5 million, you can buy the vacant lot next door to Sen. Barack Obama's mansion in Chicago's historic Kenwood neighborhood.
It's the same land that has been giving Obama political headaches for nearly two years -- ever since he bought a sliver of it from the wife of Tony Rezko, the now indicted businessman who was once Obama's political patron.
The "For Sale'' signs went up last week after the current owner, attorney Michael Sreenan, said he notified the U.S. Secret Service, whose guards are posted outside Obama's mansion. Sreenan, who still does legal work for Rezko, said he also discussed the sale with Obama's real estate attorney.
Sreenan bought the land 10 months ago when he paid his boss' wife $575,000 for the 750,000-square-foot lot, where he planned to build town houses. He has scrapped those plans, hoping to sell the land for $1.5 million.
Suntimes
Posted by: Anon | February 26, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Elliott,
I'm hoping you are around to liveblog. WE should take bets on whether the Red Witch has the cajones to pull out all the stops.
Let's hope Chris Matthews is the moderator just to add to the inanity of it all.
Posted by: Jane | February 26, 2008 at 03:43 PM
It will be very interesting. As I understand it beyond the news hype neither has a sufficient number of delegates to be assured of the nomination under party rules and won't no matter what happens in Ohio and Texas. It is looking more and more likely to go to the convention..she has nothing to lose.
Posted by: clarice | February 26, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Well I found a bit of a write up on the lender. Mutual Bank of Harvey. See anything that catches your eye here, other than tax dollars I mean.
Taking a closer look, the Mutual Bank of Harvey, Illinois, a certified Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs), was described in 2001 as having "received an award of $1,364,781 for increasing its consumer, single family housing, multifamily housing, commercial real estate, and business lending in several distressed communities."
The owner of the bank is Amrish Mahajan, who, according to the Chicago Tribune helped raise $500,000 for Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich between 2001-2007 and has "lent millions of dollars to indicted Blagojevich fundraiser Antoin 'Tony' Rezko."
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Jane,
I will be back. I don't know what the Clinton approach will be tonight, but I do think that Hillary Clinton is going to stay in to the end. Even if she finishes a couple hundred delegates back that still gives her nearly three months for any damaging information on Obama to surface.
Posted by: Elliott | February 26, 2008 at 03:47 PM
The University of Illinois as Chicago Circle (known as "Circle" or "UIC") is a second-rate state school, much lower in reputation to its big brother, the University of Illinois (which is in Urbana, IL.) Which, in turn, has a much lower reputation than the University of Chicago, which is top-10-in-the-world in virtually every department. Chicagoans are mostly ignorant of its stellar reputation, thinking of it vaguely as a home to communists.
The two doctors are at UC, too, not UIC. Fastest way to yank the chain of a UofC student/faculty/staff/alumnus is to politely enquire "Circle?" when told that the person is associated with "UC", "UofC" or "University of Chicago".Posted by: cathyf | February 26, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Well speaking of stuff the media is not "letting you see"-
The next step in the "Caucus fight" in Nevada-turned into a near riot,and an ugly mess.
Had to be CANCELLED.
the campaign's supposedly could not file or register delegates properly so they both called anyone who participated in the first round to fill in-there is some claiming that the Obama camp practiced this the most with the union s that endorsed him,legitimate delegates could not gain entry.
When Hillary's delegates could not "show up" Obama's camp tried to show up for the "no shows" according to the "rules".
Now Obama's camp wants that vote to "count" even though it was such a mess.
Rory Reid-county commissioner-yes Harry's son is trying to negotiate a more "orderly do-over" and is having trouble getting even that concession.
Rory Reid is a delegate for Hillary.
Posted by: Anon | February 26, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Anon,
I'm trying to follow the pin #[s] back - the partial legal descriptions aren't all that helpful. It appears as if Lots 2,3,4 might have had one parcel number at one time and then were split. It's impossible to determine without a plat and a complete legal description. Note that the mortgage amount of $3,270,000 is from 1998. There is a second residence using the same address and it is possible that there have been several subdivisons requiring new PINs.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | February 26, 2008 at 03:56 PM
If that write up is true, the land would have to be 17.2 acres. I dont see how a parcel of that size could be described as being worht $40,000 as in below:
In January 2006, Rita Rezko sold a 1/6 portion of the lot she had purchased in June 2005 to the Obamas, who paid $104,500 for it—even though the property's market value was only $40,500.
I think the whole lot was around 7500 SF, too small to build a house on in many suburbs of DFW for example. And she sold a strip off of around 1200 SF, leaving now a remainder of about 6300 SF. A tract that measures 100 long and 63 feet deep would be 6300 SF. Pretty damn small.
Posted by: GMax | February 26, 2008 at 03:56 PM
GOP Senators just pw3nd Harry Reid, voted for cloture that Harry filed.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 | February 26, 2008 at 04:00 PM