Traditional Saturday Open Thread

Bill Clinton is McCarthy?  So does that mean Hillary is Bergen?  (I can see her lips moving...)

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[Jane]

Good Morning everyone and welcome to Saturday. (and of course a secret shout-out to my new BFF Karl)

Feel free to sleep in a bit this morning, it's going to be a fun day. Don't forget those lilies (or tulips) for your sweetie, and those fabulous cadbury eggs (that will be 1/4 the price on Monday if you can wait.) Ladies, get your bonnets ready - does anyone actually still wear an Easter Bonnet - except where PUK hangs out?

And Don't forget, Tiger continues his quest for #8 today.

I note lots of calls for Hillary to step down? And she says "No no no". Obama continues to pretend he's not toast. (Finally something they have in common)

Meanwhile McCain is due home from Paris I suspect. I just wish I'd given him a shopping list.

Carry on.

[clarice]

Survivor:The Nominationhttp://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/how_to_pay_for_the_dem_convent.html> Have Fun

[centralcal]

I read your article this early a.m., Clarice! You make quite a point. The whole Dem race is becoming like a reality show! Not a pretty sight.

[boris]

I'd call them the Obamatrons and the Clintonettes.

[Jane]

That's great Clarice. You Rock!

[clarice]

thanks all..and for helping my old brain remember some of the highlights of these dumb campaigns!

[boris]

"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country," said BJ, who was speaking to a group of veterans Friday ...

McCain and Hillary being the two people with US interests at heart. Obama being indirectly associated with US damNation of course. How Dare He use His BJ Powers to put horrible ideas in people minds without actually saying them !!!

[boris]

Using the BJ Power against dimorat opponents was great fun, against Obama it's McCarthyism.

[centralcal]

I see the classicist, VDH, is today using the Pandora's Box analogy that I used here after Obama's race speech.

He says Obama needs to close the lid. But, can he? And, haven't too many "ills" (black liberation theology, anti-white, anti-Americanism, etc.) escaped?

Also, I want to correct what I said about the Dem race "becoming" a reality show. It is not becoming, it is and will continue to be one. I am so looking forward to Dem convention!

[Nancy]

Obama's connections to Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Tony Rezko, and Nadhmi Auchi pose some serious questions about his judgement. Unless he gives the go ahead to Michigan and Florida to hold new primaries,and of course he won't do that, he will be our nominee. If you don't agree with disenfranchising voters, please go to www.ipetitions.com/petition/votersunite and sign the petition. It only takes one minute to let the DNC know that we demand that our votes count.

[sbw]

It was bizarre to hear E.J. Dionne (whose judgment can't be one of his credentials) say on NPR that Obama's speech was outstanding because he said something to each side of the racial divide -- the implication being that that was, somehow, uniting.

Bullfeathers! Obama would have been better served, had he the wit, to touch on those things that we share as Americans, regardless of color. And there are many, greater things that bring us together than divide us.

[Rick Ballard]

Dear Nancy,

We think far too much of Barack to wish to interfere in his stellar performance in leading us all to truly united diversification. Sure, his magnificent efforts have been slightly tarnished by those truly minor inconsistencies which you mention but we know, that as time wears on, the full panoply of his diverse yet unifying life experience will become clear to the vast majority of Americans and he will justly reap the reward which he deserves.

We look forward to that day and feel that the process, so carefully crafted by Terry McAuliffe and Hillary Clinton should be allowed to run the determined course. Who are we to gainsay the wisdom of the Democratic Party regarding the rules concerning Florida and Michigan?

What is done is done. If you are unwilling to apply the adage "let the dead bury the dead" to the Clinton campaign, we remain willing (and able) to help complete the task.

PS - You certainly do make good points concerning Obama.

[Jane]

We think far too much of Barack to wish to interfere in his stellar performance in leading us all to truly united diversification.

That, and a fear of prosecution.

[Sue]

Clarice,

Wonderful.

[anduril]

Irwin Stelzer at Weekly Standard takes a pretty readable stab at explaining what happened and what's in store, for the general reader: The Credit Crisis of 2008. Included are comments about the likely political "solutions" (Dem proposals to transform America into their preferred image and have us pay for it all), the effects on foreign countries (which means, on foreign policy and America's faith and credit with foreign countries), as well as on taxpayers. Maybe especially on taxpayers. I know I'm boring some commenters, but I do insist that the way this mess plays out will affect every aspect of our public (both domestic and and foreign) and private lives. We'll need to be able to distinguish the sheeps from the goats if we hope to influence our collective future for the better. For those who remain skeptical, I've posted a small sample of the article (i.e., a longer sample than some would prefer) at the Agency Problems thread.

[anduril]

sheeps sheep :-(

[clarice]

Great reply, Rick..Poor Nancy. One hates to see another's illusions shattered.

[Jane]

Mark Steyn is just stupendous today.

Link under my name.

[clarice]

He's mine ,Jane you b*&%^

[Rick Ballard]

Clarice,

I wish I had read your excellent AT piece prior to replying to Nancy. While I continue to embrace the transcendant illumination provided by the concept of unified diversity (or is that diverse unification?) I find myself troubled by certain aspects of Baracks actual performance and votes during his very, very brief tenure as a legislator.

Perhaps a more profound investigation of Barack's entire history is in order. Be that as it may, the die is cast, the Rubicon crossed, and Barack the certain victor under the rules promulgated and approved by the Democratic National Committee. I believe that all Americans would consider it to be extraordinarily unfair to change the rules of the game in the midst of any contest.

We must all simply learn to live with the results as they stand and encourage Howard Dean to pursue remedies that will assure us that the contest of 2012 will be conducted under a better set of rules. The DNC thoughtfully provides this site for those wishing to join me in expressing a desire that the great party - "Play By The Rules". It only takes a minute to let them know how you feel and I'm sure that it will be worth the effort.

[clarice]

Thanks, Rick.
Any day now I expect Hillary to post an online petition to the effect that the rules contemplate super delegates to avoid the nomination of a sure to lose doofus.

[clarice]

Thanks, Sue (sorry with all the threads, I missed your post.)

[MayBee]

very good, miss clarice!

And sbw- I agree with you completely. That his instinct was not to do that is what bothers me.

[kim]

Jane, there is something I don't understand. Earlier this morning I read the Steyn column from an RCP link. By the time I finished and went back for more, it had been taken down. Is it too good? Too edgy? Not healing? What is up with RCP?

Another great article, about climate, can be found through icecap.us
It is Christopher Pearson, in the 3/22/08 Australian, an article entitled 'Climate News We Can Warm To'. It accents the disconnect between dropping temperatures and rising CO2 than is getting everyone's attention, and the dismay of the warmistas. There is a marvelous bit of irony at the end, for those of us who live for such.
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[Jane]

Now now Clarice,

By my count we are up to 4 or 5 men. Surely that is enough to share (I know Ann wants a "piece" too.)

[Jane]

Kim,

It's still there altho there is an ad in the middle.

[clarice]

Sharing is for little people, Jane.

[Jane]

LOL!

As I said yesterday Clarice, you rock!

[cathyf]

C'mon, gals, admit it. If the JOM Biddy Committee were ever to meet up in real life we'd be so busy gabbing away that the guys would get totally forgotten & ignored!

[sbw]

Cathyf, I resemble that!

[GMax]

Hey my voter registration card is stamped "Democrat" shouldn't I go to a few site and moby it up like Maggie? But how can I post anything that this logic challenged being might understand? Its a dilemma I tell you.

[Elliott]

And she says "No no no".

Did seeing the Wright clip make Amy Winehouse's song play over and over in your head too? I had been thinking there was a potential Capitol Steps* parody there, but Mark Steyn's "land that I loathe" is far preferable.

Inspired by Rick Ballard, "Jeremiah was a _______ prog," (skilled? dull?) could work. Suggestions, please!

On the Winehouse front, I think I have a winner with the Ayaan Hirsi Ali remix: "They tried to make me don the hijab / I said no, no, no."
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* I don't think the Steps are as funny as they used to be. I saw them about a year ago and wasn't too impressed.

[Little Ann, the youngest of the three ;)]

Thanks, Clarice and Jane,

[Porchlight]

Inspired by Rick Ballard, "Jeremiah was a _______ prog," (skilled? dull?) could work. Suggestions, please!

Shill?

You're right about your Winehouse edit, Elliott - it's perfect.

[Porchlight]

Great stuff in AT, Clarice. I'll wager others will talk about the Survivor Nomination as August nears, but you'll have 'em all beat.

[Rick Ballard]

Jeremiah was a full prog, he was good friend of Che.

I never understood a single word he said but I helped him pimp his slime. He always had some mighty low slime.

Sing it - Hate to the world...all the boys and girls now , hate to the fishies in the deep blue sea and hate to you and me.

Needs a little work but it's the headed in the Wright direction.

[GMax]

Jerimiah was a bullshit prog?

It may not scan but its definitely the truth

[Jane]

Did you guys see this from Bill Gertz at the WA Times?

“The State Department investigation of improper computer access to passport records of three presidential candidates is focusing on one remaining employee — a contract worker with a company headed by an adviser to the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.”

Too bad he didn't accept that apology.

[Porchlight]

Too bad he didn't accept that apology.

Oops! That's okay, Barack can do a magic do-over rhetorical thingy and it will be like he never demanded the investigation in the first place. Like kim once said, he doesn't even have to hit the ball, he just points to the place in the ballpark where it's going to go and the crowd sees it land there.

The problem is, the Election Fairy only gave him three magic do-overs and he's used the other two up, on NAFTA and Wright. So he has to choose very, very carefully.

[Jane]

I think Rice should call a press conference and announce that at Obama's request his buddy's company has lost the contract and shortly will go under.

[kim]

It could be, it might be, it is.....a home run, by Karl Rove, pinch hitting from the stands behind third base.
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[Jane]

Wow - sarah Jane Olsen is back in custody. Now word on why.

She was originally imprisoned in MA (if I have the right person). I went to her arraignment, because it was about a mile from my office and I was curious.

[clarice]

Jane, I'm not sure but I think she was supposed to serve her parole in California and she was arrested getting on a plane to go home--OR--the parole office agreed that she could serve it in Minneapolis but didn't have the papers at the time she tried boarding.
Looks like a little police payback from people unhappy with the parole board action.

[Jane]

Interesting.

[M. Simon]

From AT today:

Very Bad News For the Big O

* Arkansas: McCain leads Clinton 50-43. McCain leads Obama by 59-30.
* Kentucky: McCain leads Clinton 53-43. He destroys Obama 64-28.
* Lower middle income whites have deserted Obama. In one Pennsylvania poll, Clinton now leads Obama by 26. She has now taken the lead from him in North Carolina. Rasmussen national numbers: Clinton 46, Obama 44.
* Head to head general: McCain 49, Obama 41; McCain 49, Clinton 43.

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Fortunately for the Rs the bleeding has just begun. Dem bleeding that is.

You know what I think? Hidden racism of the Dem leaders snookered them into anointing Obama.

A black man? Check
Half white? Check
Outstanding public speaker? Check
From a large state? Check
Harvard grad? Check
Taught at U Chicago? Check
Belongs to a large and popular black church? Check

Obviously he is black and doesn't need vetting. The perfect candidate. Check!

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. All the way to November.

Already there are indications of anti-war protests in Denver. What happens when the Black man who played by the rules and is clearly ahead doesn't get the nod?

Blood in the streets.

1968 all over again. Will Detroit burn this time? Do Dems dare risk it? "Come on baby light my fire."

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Rick Ballard | March 22, 2008 at 09:49 AM

ROTFLMAO

Thanks for that - it is a keeper.

[M. Simon]

Rick,

I posted your exchange with Nancy here:

A Little Exchange

With a link to this thread and your blog. If you have any objections put a note in the comments at the above link (in case I don't check back on this thread).

As I said a keeper. BTW I'd like to give it a wider audience by posting it on Classical Values. So if I don't hear from you in a day or so I'm going to cross post it there.

[Roundabout]

So, in addition to all of Clinton's other afflictions, she's a lip reader?

I don't care what the polls say, McCain WILL NOT beat Clinton. If she gets the nomination, she's going to the White House. You had better remember that.

[Rick Ballard]

M. Simon,

Feel free to use as you wish.

"If she gets the nomination"

How low will she go in putting that boy, Barack, in his proper place, Roundabout? Bubba's done a bit of race baiting ang Ferraro got in a few licks but it's really not enough. Will Red Witch don a hood and light a cross? I believe her to be quite capable of doing so but it could be a tad risky.

If she does succeed in driving Barack back to the plantation, who's going to get out that 100% turnout in Philly and Cleveland and St. Louis? Even if the overseers in the prog plantations can whip the inhabitants to the polls, what makes you think that they will cast a secret vote for a woman willing to use their race to keep them down?

[M. Simon]

Rick,

Thanks. Posted here too.

BTW I think you made a typo here:

What is done is done. If you are unwilling to apply the adage "let the dead bury the dead" to the Clinton campaign, we remain willing (and able) to help complete the task.

Shouldn't it be:

What is done is done. If you are willing to apply the adage "let the dead bury the dead" to the Clinton campaign, we remain willing (and able) to help complete the task.

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I can fix it of course. Let me know.

[boris]

I interpreted that line as "If you are unwilling ... we remain willing"

[clarice]

I did, too, boris..

[Rick Ballard]

"BTW I think you made a typo here:"

Ricidulous. What a load of carp! I've never made a tpyo in my life.

Boris has correctly interpreted my intent. Karen is apparently unwilling but we aren't.

[clarice]

Thanks, Rick--Companero de mi vida..

[Rick Ballard]

You're welcome, Clarice. That sort of romur has to be nippped in the butt before it can speed.

I'm working on the appropriate makeup of the phrase to which the acronym C.H.A.O.S. could apply. HAO would be Hillary And Obama. C could be Chase (or something better) but I'm stuck on S.

Any help offered will be appreciated.

I've decided to formalize my status as provateur and agitator by becoming an agent of C.H.A.O.S.

[clarice]

contradicting H and O's scat

[kim]

Jennifer Mahoresy's interview, as reported in the Australian, is a spreading meme. Now the Captain has it at Hot Air. It accentuates the problem the warmers have, that is that CO2 continues to rise, and temperatures are falling. That is something anyone can understand. Especially those being asked to make sacrifices, which is all of us.

We are cooling, folks. For how long, even I don't know.

Well, actually I do. It is either for five years or fifty, depending upon what the sun does in the next 6-12 months. Watch it at dxlc.com/solar or icecap.us
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[M. Simon]

My apologies.

It was the word help which fooled me.

In any case since you wrote it I would change nothing without your permission.

I think it is clearer without the "help" in there.

If you are unwilling ... we are willing to help you.

Seems to parse strangely. - I took it to mean: If you are unwilling ... we are willing to help (you in your unwillingness).

BTW some of my readers have commented very favorably on your post.

Thank you.

I hope it drives some traffic your way.

[M. Simon]

kim,

Solar scientist are saying that the cooling will be around a 50 year phenomenon with the depth at around 2030.

BTW nice seeing you over at Climate Audit from time to time. I was glad when you first showed up.

[boris]

Try it this way ...

If you are unwilling ... we are willing to help them

[M. Simon]

boris,

The fact that there are several plausible variations - depending on the mind looking at it - it seems like a few more words to make things explicit would help eliminate confusion.

[Rick Ballard]

M. Simon,

Edit as you see fit. You have a very valid point.

[kim]

Heh, thanks, M. Simon. I've also seen windansea, Rick Ballard, and PoFarmer over at climateaudit.org. That is one awesome and challenging site. I once compared it too a huge pipeline of knowledge, in which I poke a little hole and live off what I can suck out of it. The math and science is usually way over my head, but those brainiacs are often remarkably literate.

How long we cool depends upon how Solar Cycle #23 finishes, and #'s 24 and 25 turn out. I find it sadly ironic that I am hoping for cooling, which will make this niche on earth tougher for humans, in order to break the madness for carbon encumbering that has taken hold of far too many scientists and politicians. Why couldn't we figure out that CO2 has only a small effect on climate, without having to undergoing an unpredicted cooling cycle? Some scientists we turned out to be.

I still maintain, against the beliefs of Charlie, CO, that if we have a long term cooling spell, hundreds of millions of humans may die from the associated wars, pestilence, starvation, cold and general civilizational upset. Even a 5% die-off is 350 million people. I've wasted a lot of effort at DotEarth trying to pound an ethical lesson into some of those twirps, but the underlying theme there seems to be glee that there won't be so many teeming billions to upset their oh so green life. Pitiable, if it weren't so precious.
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[Rick Ballard]

Kim,

I think you understand a lot more than I do. My comments get zapped because my irritation with Piltdown Mann and his 4 barrel data enHansenizer show through a little too clearly.

Steve McIntyre and Anthony Watts deserve medals for exposing one of the greatest scientific frauds ever perpetuated. Steve just keeps sawing the legs off of Mann's table.

I'm not so sure about the economic impact of cooling unless we head into a real Minimum. If that looks probable then I would imagine that learning Portugese would probably be a good idea. Brazil is a really beautiful country.

[kim]

Half the fun over there is seeing just how far you can stick your head up before getting zapped by 'The Snipper'.

I think we're headed for a grand minimum. Pete's graph at comment #454 of the Svalgaard #2 thread, though speculative, has persuaded me.

Peru's nice, too.
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