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April 10, 2008



Pew stinks. I'd like a whiff of those questions.


Another great irony; her 'credibility' is incredible. The reaction of most Americans and Christians to 'God Damn America'? Incredulity. Yes, this irony has street cred.


Losers include young adults (ages 18 to 29), the unmarried,.."

I wonder if the growing numbers of Peter Pans who eschew marriage affects the stats?

"Consider: in 1970, 69 percent of 25-year-old and 85 percent of 30-year-old white men were married; in 2000, only 33 percent and 58 percent were, respectively. And the percentage of young guys tying the knot is declining as you read this. Census Bureau data show that the median age of marriage among men rose from 26.8 in 2000 to 27.5 in 2006—a dramatic demographic shift for such a short time period. That adds up to tens of millions more young men blissfully free of mortgages, wives, and child-care bills."

Blissfully single Peters may be higher up Pew's ladder than unclaimed blessing Paulines.


Alliterally, elevatingly, enlightening, too.

Rick Ballard


Are you trying to imply that personal decisions have some effect upon the economic status of individuals? What a heretical concept!

I sure hope that Michelle takes advantage of every opportunity given to her to speak at length and in detail. She's a treasure.

To Red Witch and McCain.


Ah, I a meant 'alliteravily'.


It's just occurred to me that whoever wins the Dem nomination, won't want the other's high negatives on the ticket. A perfect storm. Sure, Karl, we know you're in the stands. It's the mind rays, right?


This article from last January, when Michelle was free and unmuzzled, offers a peek into her view of herself and the reasons for her "rise" to where she is today. Once again, affirmative action is not mentioned. Why not, unless benefitting from AA is deemed shameful? What part does this black shame and the resulting white resentment play in the racial divide?


It's a good thing we're all cuzzins, or there would be real trouble.


DebinNC - Can I ask why we think that Michelle was a beneficiary of affirmative action? I assume that this primarily relates to her admission to Princeton, and maybe to Harvard law as well.

As for her position at U of C hospitals, I attribute that to politics, not AA. BTW, I'm a lawyer in Chicago, and I know a little about UC and the Obama's.

This seems to be a theme that is emerging more and more in the conservative blogosphere, but frankly it seems to be less a fair commentary than a mean spirited attack like the attempts to put Clarence Thomas in his place by reference to his benefitting from AA. Just wondering what I've been missing.


"DebinNC - Can I ask why we think that Michelle was a beneficiary of affirmative action?

Yesterday there was a discussion about NCLB mandated testing, and someone supplied a link in which Michelle Obama admitted she didn't have exemplary grades in high school. She's 5'11", so perhaps she was a stellar athlete like her brother and entered Princeton on an athletic scholarship. Otherwise, why was she admitted to Princeton over others, except via targeted efforts to increase racial "diversity" on campus? Is that not affirmative action?


Sure, L, in Chicago it's street cred, not AA. But is the street cred credible. There is divergence from reality, as evidenced by Wright. It's analogous, and as insidious as AA, this delusion.

Tom Maguire

DebinNC - Can I ask why we think that Michelle was a beneficiary of affirmative action? I assume that this primarily relates to her admission to Princeton, and maybe to Harvard law as well.

Yesterday I linked to this, from Newsweek:

She didn't get the attention of the school's college counselors, who helped the brightest students find spots at prestigious universities. "Princeton, the Ivy Leagues swoop up kids" like Craig, Michelle says. "A black kid from the South Side of Chicago that plays basketball and is smart. He was getting in everywhere. But I knew him, and I knew his study habits, and I was, like, 'I can do that too'." Some of her teachers told her she didn't have the grades or test scores to make it to the Ivies. But she applied to Princeton and was accepted.

Didn't have the grades, didn't have the sports. Did have a successful big brother who was also a sports star - if Affirmative Action was not helping her, who in the world is it helping?

Rick Ballard

It might not have been AA. Her brother could have blackmailed Princeton for an early legacy. What she acknowledges is that she didn't earn the slot. She then provides evidence which supports her contention. Repeatedly.

VIMH is unhappy with Michelle.

Some things are sacred.


perhaps she was a stellar athlete like her brother and entered Princeton on an athletic scholarship

I am fairly sure that Princeton and other Ivy League schools don't give athletic scholarships.


“We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, I’m young. Forty-four!”

If she had lived in Zimbabwe she would have been long dead by 44.


If,if, if wishes were horses.......

buford gooch

Do the Obamas consider themselves middle class? That would be an interesting question. I think the only alternatives are rich and poor, and I'm guessing they would claim neither of those.


Another Michelle quote from her visit to NC this week: “When people look at me, I don’t want them just to see perhaps the next First Lady of the United States; I want them to see what an investment in public education can look like,” she said.

Wouldn't that mean more if the Obama daughters weren't enrolled in the private Univ. of Chicago Lab schools? "In a debate during his 2004 senate campaign, Obama said he opposed government vouchers and tax credits to attend private schools because they would undermine efforts to improve the public school system." []


Pretty amazing that Chicago based lawyer did not know what TM could respond to within minutes. Better Mobys please.


NO the Ivy League does not give out Athletic money, but as several of them told JMax, we decide who is financially needed not the Fed govt. In other words, they just call it something else, and since they have huge endowments can allocate money for need even if you dont meet the Fed Govt guidelines.

And does being a gifted athlete, get you opportunities other students without the athletic gift dont see, well Harvard told her she was in ( of course her white male classmate who was Valedictorian got turned down at UNC and she got in too so its not just the Ivys). Viva la diversification!

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