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April 29, 2008

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Danube of Thought

Pain grille.

Buford Gooch

Well, I swore that Jimmy Carter was too much of a dork to get elected, bet good money that the American public was smart enough not to re-elect Bill Clinton, and was sure that our governor Blago (here in Illinois) was way too crooked to get re-elected. So, I'm no longer counting on the voting public to be smart enough to avoid electing any putz who happen along, no matter how much sleaziness comes out.

windansea

I'm betting that Dean,Pelosi, and Reid are hitting the sauce tonight

Topsecretk9

Wind
you know it

Anyone foolish enough to rely exclusively on the Times for their news must have been mystified to learn that Wright's bland presentations actually provoked an Obama press conference and represented a new crisis for the Obama campaign. But today in TimesWorld a bit more of the truth is out there.

Dwindling circs + ad dollars indicate the fools are going elsewhere to get actual news....Greg Pollowitz outlines the NYT's bloated Congressional/Gov't Business model that sorta speaks to the failure of their particular "business model"

Sara

TSK9, I had a dream the other night that somehow I came into 400 billion dollars. (I said it was a dream :) ) The first thing I did was buy the NYT and install Karl Rove as Editor/Chairman of the Board.

Topsecretk9

Sara

If they procured Rove to their editorial board they might actually sell some papers - and make you billions more ::wink::

Chris

Just catching up on CNN's coverage after getting home tonight. Coop has the triage team on. They're only a few weeks behind where the country is on Wright/Obama, so I guess that's progress.

Showing some clips of O on the stump today. He was praising America, without any disclaimers. Baby steps, as Tom has said.

Foo Bar

As they surely say in Obama's exclusive Hyde park neighborhood, Obama is croutons.

It is true that there are several homes (such as the Obamas') in Kenwood and Hyde Park which are worth more than a million dollars, but it's simply not accurate to call the neighborhood exclusive. Kenwood's median household income is $44K. Hyde Park's is also $44K. Compare that to Lincoln Park, on the north side of Chicago, where it's $83K. The median family income in Beverly Hills is $102K.

Davod

So, Wright is building a McMansion.

sylvia

"and married Michelle and I"

This quote from Obama drives me crazy. It is my pet peeve to substitute "I" in a sentence when "me" is correct."...and married Michelle and ME" is the way it should be said.

(again substitute 'we' and 'us' to check if the subject or object case should be used. Is it "he married WE"? No- it's "he married US".)

If a Presidential candidate can't get that right, then he should just drop out. Hillary always gets that right by the way.

bgates

Clinton 08 for Democratic Nominee.
Good judgement.
Good grammar.
Good grief, look at the alternative!

bgates

I'm sure I've made that mistake from time to time. So Sylvia, I can no more disown Barack Obama for that statement than I can my own grammar.

PaulL

Sylvia,

I think people use "I" instead of "me" because they remember their parents always telling them not to say, for example, "me want food." Zillions of people do this.

Also, if anyone ever says "methinks," run away from the poseur.

When all other things are equal in candidates, vote for the one with the better grammar.

Jane

TM,

You sure do write pretty. It's a joy to wake up to.

amr

I found while rummaging through Google that Mr. Obama's campaign released the following as part of his statement on International Women's Day, March 8, 2008: “This day is particularly meaningful to me because I've been shaped by the women in my life – by a single mother who raised me across two continents (hmmm-well from when he was 2 to 5 when living in Hawaii-amr), and a grandmother who instilled in me her own Midwestern values; by my sister Maya who grew up in Asia and multi-ethnic Hawaii, and my sister Auma who has lived her life in Africa and Europe; by a paternal grandmother who still lives in rural Kenya without electricity and running water; and by my extraordinary wife Michelle, who continues to make me a better man”.

What gets to me is that Mr. Obama has given tens of thousands of dollars to Rev. Wright’s out of the American mainstream ministry, yet here is a man who is running for president promising to help Americans and admits that he has an impoverished grandmother who he has not helped. They have a family income last year of $4.24 million and they give $26,000 to Rev. Wright’s church yet forsake his grandmother; and for some reason this escapes the media. So Mr. Obama, with his new found wealth, will not even take responsibility to help those he honors, even for his political sake.

This tells me much about the man; more than enough to know that I don’t understand his political logic or what is in his heart. I said once I believed that I could sit down and have a beer and worldly discussion with him; that idea is now out the window, not that he would visit my little farm anyway. And this knowledge certainly makes it even clearer that I can not support his campaign for president.

Jane

Amr,

I always wondered that too. I guess he's a little tight with a buck.

kim

amr, he's lying about the 'shaping', too. Several of those women he mentioned he barely knows. What a crock this dude turns out to be. Phonier even than Kerry, that's for sure. Why don't Democrats see these people coming?
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DebinNC

amr said: "They have a family income last year of $4.24 million and they give $26,000 to Rev. Wright’s church yet forsake his grandmother; and for some reason this escapes the media."
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Michelle was interviewed last week by someone from a black newspaper:

Frost: What about your job?

Michelle Obama: During Iowa (caucus), I cut my back on my hours. I couldn't do justice to all. So I took a leave of absence and am on that now

Frost: What about your role as parent and mother?

Answer: It's not that different from others. And, it's starting to take its toll. We are all trying to have it all, but we can't have it all. We are hurting economically and in other ways.

Despite their 2007 $4.2 million income, Michelle includes herself among the "we" feeling the current economic pinch.

Jane

Poor Michelle, I'm sure their supporters will gladly ante up for the babysitter.

Neo

Since when is a politically expedient "throwing under the bus" of one's own pastor courageous ?

Just try the simple juxtaposition of Bush for Obama in these stories and you can just imagine the howl the would have come from the Times and their ilk.

Rick Ballard

Perhaps she's sniveling about having bought BHO Manse at the top of the market? Even with Rezko's sweetner it's probably underwater at the moment. Plus their teaser reset (if they had a teaser ) my bet is a real sweetheart mortgage).

Alternatively she doesn't know how not to whine, no matter the circumstance.

MikeS

Obama is an enigma.
He looks down on the working-class, yet he is not an elitist. His policy positions are left of Ted Kennedy, yet he is not a liberal. He is a religious man, but not the religion his pastor preaches. He is honest and forthcoming, albeit in a deceptive and vague way.

That's puzzling but it doesn't matter. What matters is that Obama has the magical abilies to transcend race and partisanship, and to get politicians to discard the old ways of doing things. He safeguards these abilities. He rations them so tightly that he has never actually used them.

People ask, "If Obama is such a good man, why are his friends, bombers, and racists, and on trial for political corruption."
Obama supporters say the answer is simple, "Healthy people don't need a doctor, it's the sick who need a doctor..."

Bill in AZ
TSK9, I had a dream the other night that somehow I came into 400 billion dollars. (I said it was a dream :) ) The first thing I did was buy the NYT and install Karl Rove as Editor/Chairman of the Board.

How about Tom Maguire as editor, JOM commenters as staff, and rename it to... er... justoneminute

Danube of Thought

Obama has just commissioned a new parlor game, which will be played over and over again in the media: What prior outrageous Wrightisms did Obama hear and read, and when?

A cynic would say that the only difference between what Wright said at the Press Club and what he's been saying all along is that he publicly dissed Obama at the Press Club. As Obama whined, "he's not helping my campaign."

Sue

DoT,

A 5 year member of Trinity recognized his pastor at the NPC breakfast. He was not appalled, offended or surprised. And the most puzzling thing to me is he is still an Obama supporter.

Jane

Mike S,

Can I steal that?

clarice

Actually,TM said it better than Steve Benen did. Bravo!

MikeS

Jane,
I'm flattered.
Yes, of course

Forbes

If:

"Mr. Obama became a Christian after hearing a 1988 sermon of Mr. Wright’s called 'The Audacity to Hope',"

then of what religious affiliation or denomination did Obama claim to belong before 1988?

Jane

I suspect he was an atheist, as his mother was.

liontooth

How many pieces of silver did the Clinton campaign give to the Rev. 'Judas' Wright?

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