Losing My Bearings

John McCain, in his appearance on Jon Stewart, reprised his observation that Hamas favored Obama.

Barack Obama, in an interview with Wolf Blitzer, engaged in a bit of agesim by deploring this "smear" and asserting that John McCain had "lost his bearing".

McCain aide Mark Salter fires back.  His gist - a Hamas spokesperson did say exactly that, and has a perfectly good reason to say so - Iran trains and funds Hamas and would welcome the publicity coup of the unconditional meeting with an American President promised by Barack.

Andy McCarthy points out that the Obama campaign wasn't so incensed a few weeks ago:

When asked about the endorsement, Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, was flattered that Hamas compared his candidate to JFK: "We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it's flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps."

Mr. McCarthy also notes Barack's own invocation of his middle name as providing an opportunity to heal America's standing in the world.  Fair enough, and let's toss in Obama's face, by way of Mr. Sullivan:

What does he offer? First and foremost: his face. Think of it as the most effective potential re-branding of the United States since Reagan...

Consider this hypothetical. It’s November 2008. A young Pakistani Muslim is watching television and sees that this man—Barack Hussein Obama—is the new face of America. In one simple image, America’s soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm. A brown-skinned man whose father was an African, who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, who attended a majority-Muslim school as a boy, is now the alleged enemy. If you wanted the crudest but most effective weapon against the demonization of America that fuels Islamist ideology, Obama’s face gets close. It proves them wrong about what America is in ways no words can.

So let me project Sully's view onto the current dust-up - we should vote for the black guy becasue of his cosmetic appeal to brown-skinned third worlders, but we should be appalled at the suggestion that third-world jihadists will consider him likely to be more sympathetic.  Is everybody clear?

I am not.

PILING ON:  Jimmy Carter, famous Democrat, former President and lifetime clown, met with Hamas; if Hamas were asked to guess which party is more likely to be sympathetic to them, can we think of a reason they would answer "the Democrats"?

MEETING WITH THE ENEMY:  I enjoyed this, from a frustrated Democratic adult:

As you probably know, Barack Obama appeared on Fox News Sunday on April 27, 2008 (to the apparent dismay of many liberal bloggers who support negotiating with our nation’s enemies, but are boycotting Fox in order to “delegitimize” it. Please, kids, grow up with all your litmus tests.)

Comments

[stan]

Basing your vote on a candidate's race is racist. Or not. In the looking glass world of modern liberalism, it all comes down to the meaning of "is" and other such intellectualism. Words mean whatever they decide. Nothing more. Nothing less. The Civil Rights Act forbids discrimination based on race. Except in liberal land where the same words are read to mean that such discrimination is required.

Is it all clear now?

[daveinboca]

Just amazing how clueless Obama is becoming now that he's hitting the Big Leagues instead of caucus-schmoozing and adoring media flacks.

I personally think he's trying to get McCain to lose his temper ala Alec Baldwin, who hilariously is touting himself for political office after calling his 11-year old daughter "a little *** pig."

But John is too smart to get engaged with a bantamweight like Obambi, who actually would sit down with a murderer of US soldiers in Iraq like Ahmadodojihad.

Sullivan lost his soul about two years ago when he hit the Big Leagues and now is becoming a fast-forward Dorian Gray in his mindless musings.

[Sara]

The Champ Is Here

Will Barack Obama defeat Barack Obama on November 4?

Read it all.

[kim]

Well, the Sullied One is just plain wrong, stupid and ignorant about 'the demonization of America that fuels Islamic ideology'. In fact, he's not even wrong.
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[clarice]

Well, I for one think Operation Chaos has done its job and it's time for a new campaign and what could be better than"Hussein , Hamas' Choice" or "Barak Hussein--100 million Jihadis Can't Be Wrong".

[BumperStickerist]

Consider this hypothetical. It’s November 2008. A young Pakistani Muslim is watching television and sees that this man—Barack Hussein Obama—is the new face of America. In one simple image, America’s soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm.

How'd that approach work out for Benzair Bhutto?

Has Pakistan embraced, say, feminism thanks to the logarithmic changes wrought by having a female in power?

Also, unless Sullivan is prepared to repeal the 22nd Ammendment, what are we to say to these Pakistani Muslims eight years hence - about the time their hitting their 16-25 prime "let's do something" years - when the black guy is forced to leave office and the Democrat American electorate offers up white dudes, like Kerry, Gore, and/or Edwards.

Bonus "or" - Sullivan fails to consider the "authenticity" question with regard to Obama.

While "oreo" isn't a word in Urdu or Arabic, what's to stop these Muslims from viewing Obama as nothing more than "black on the outside, white on the inside" person given 1) Howard Dean, the WGoG (Whitest Guy on Gaia), is in charge of the party and 2) I mean, c'mon, the guy could be the spokesman for Wonder Bread and Hellman's Mayonaise and 3) Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are standing on either side of him.

I guess Andrew can't be bothered to think through such things.

[centralcal]

Clarice, I like it! Maybe you should blog that suggestion to Rush over at American Thinker. He seems to be a regular reader, judging by the numerous mentions he gives on his radio show.

[Rick Ballard]

The Copperheads don't like "Hamas for Hussein" as a campaign slogan? What happened to truth in advertising?

Would Hussein be in the lead had he not promised the cut n' run faction that he would lead the retreat (or surrender to the first available jihadi)?

Sullivan's suggestion that the electorate base it's vote decision upon color is interesting. Perhaps he will explore the idea more fully in the future, taking it to its logical conclusion. Let's see, the black bloc is going 90% for Hussein, the brown and yellow portions of the electorate don't have a horse in the race and McCain appears to be pretty white.

Using the Sullivan Strategy would sure make the decision process less complex, wouldn't it? I wonder what his suggestion would be for Hispanics and Asians? Sit it out? Coin toss?

[SteveMG]

... we should vote for the black guy becasue of his cosmetic appeal to brown-skinned third worlders, but we should be appalled at the suggestion that third-world jihadists will consider him likely to be more sympathetic. Is everybody clear?

Hmm, I don't follow that, Tom.

One is a racialist appeal; the other is an ideological appeal. The two don't follow. Especially since the jihadists are trans-racial (broadly speaking).

Portraying Obama as some sort of ally with the terrorists is a very dangerous enterprise. Once he appears before the public and soothingly says "I love America, I've always loved America", suspicions will quickly fade away.

This isn't Dukakis or Kerry here. This is a sharp, smart and agile opponent.

[Buford Gooch]

Clarice, I like your suggestions. "Terrorists, Domestic and Foreign, for Hussein Obama" just isn't catchy enough.

[Buford Gooch]

SteveMG,

The Obama campaign may be "sharpe, smart and agile" but why do you think Obama is? When he is without his teleprompter, he makes gaffe after gaffe.

[boris]

Portraying Obama as some sort of ally with the terrorists is a very dangerous enterprise

No, the point is electing Obama is a subtle form of appeasment to them. "See we're not as bad as you think we are".

It's akin to my fluffy bunny hypothesis. There is a group that want's to portray the US to the world as a big fluffy bunny, never mean and non threatening. Which of course attracts predators. When the predators finally exact enough pain, the US responds with hideous aggressive force.

Better to portray the US to the world as it is. Make us mad and there will be hell to pay. Seems unfair but it really is better in the long run for everybody including the predators.

[Sue]

Can someone tell me what happened to John Edwards' delegates when he left the race?

[Ranger]

This isn't Dukakis or Kerry here. This is a sharp, smart and agile opponent.

Posted by: SteveMG | May 09, 2008 at 10:03 AM

I think you are vastly over estimating his abilities.

If he were either sharp, smart, or agile, he would have been properly prepared for the Wright debacle. He clearly wasn't.

If he were either sharp, smart, or agile, he would be properly prepared for the Ayers debacle, which is going to happen eventually. He doesn't appear to be preparing at all for that.

If he were either sharp, smart, or agile, he would never have gone to Rezko for help in buying his house.

This is a guy who has only run one contested campaign in his life, which he lost. Everything else has been a cake walk. He thinks that he can set the stage so that any challenge to his narative or his proposals are "divisive distractions" and the media will back him on it. It didn't work for Kerry, and I doubt it will for Obama.

[Ranger]

Here's an idea for a bumper sticker:

Obama, he was for Rev. Wright before he was against him!

[Sue]

Scary is on a roll:

We may now understand why Barack does not wear a flag lapel pin. He's afraid that Bill Ayers will stomp on him.

[Ranger]

Here's an idea for a McCain campaign spot that isn't negative but gets the point across:

Courage. It takes courage to be a leader. Courage to stand up for what you believe in. Courage to stand up to even your friends when you disagree with them.

John McCain has proven his courage many times.

He volunteered to be a Naval Aviator.

He flew combat missions for his country.

He refused to leave his fellow POWs behind, staying in captivity for years rather than betray their trust.

For 5 terms in the US Senate he has stood up for what he believes in. Even against his own party at times.

John McCain has proven his courage. Barack Obama, not so much.

[BumperStickerist]

Ranger,

Leave those to the pseudo-crypto-professional:

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Obama: Disowning His Own Since January, 2008

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[Jordan, NY]

You're not recognizing that there are two different truths that are at play here. First, Mr. Sullivan's insightful statement that a man named Barack Obama can contend for the highest office in the US will show young Islamists that the United States is not a racist and hateful nation. Mr. Sullivan isn't saying that this is a reason to vote for Sen. Obama, just that this is an unequivocal boost to our reputation in a region that has been the focus of our foreign policy. Second, has nothing to do with the reality of policy, but the reality of politics. Even if this "endorsement" is a positive thing for Obama's foreign policy, plenty of Americans will be afraid by this completely unsubstantiated link. McCain knows the difference, so does Obama. I mean, look at how scared the electorate became when they found out that Sen. Obama shared a seat on a board with a man who committed crimes 40 years ago. Really meaningful? No. Politically meaningful? Unfortunately.

[Rick Ballard]

You need to come up with some handwaving to cover the Rezko payoffs association too, Jordan. Maybe BHO was "witnessing" to Rezko as they walked through BHO Manse together? You remember - the inspection made just prior to Rezko coughing up a down payment (the provenance of which is still undisclosed) for the adjacent lot in order for the poverty stricken Obama's to have the humble million dollar home to which they aspired?

[boris]

show young Islamists that the United States is not a racist and hateful nation

Gee how did they get that idea?

Better idea ... let's waterboard whoever has been lying about us and make them tell the truth.

[Ranger]

Ranger,

Leave those to the pseudo-crypto-professional:

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Obama: Disowning His Own Since January, 2008

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Posted by: BumperStickerist | May 09, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Fair enough.

I thought it would be good to tie Obama directly to his biggest loser supporter. After all, they are two peas in the same pod.

[MayBee]

First, Mr. Sullivan's insightful statement that a man named Barack Obama can contend for the highest office in the US will show young Islamists that the United States is not a racist and hateful nation.

Young Islamists are themselves racist and hateful. They did not mind blowing up people with names similar to Barack Obama when they attacked the Kenyan embassies and the tourist resorts there. All in the name of killing a few Americans or Jews.

[MayBee]

About 212 Kenyans were killed and about 4000 injured in the Nairobi embassy attack.

[Ranger]

I mean, look at how scared the electorate became when they found out that Sen. Obama shared a seat on a board with a man who committed crimes 40 years ago. Really meaningful? No. Politically meaningful? Unfortunately.

Posted by: Jordan, NY | May 09, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Well, a couple of things here. First, its not just that Ayers "committed crimes 40 years ago" it is that those "crimes" were acts of domestic terrorism conducted as part of a "declared war" against the government of the United States and that Ayers to this day refuses to show any regret for them.

Obama has laid out very strict standards of who he can and cannot work with. For example, he declared definitively that he could not work with someone such as Don Imus because he said a mean joke about some female athletes. Even after Imus sincearly and publicly regretted his actions, Obama declared he was beyond the bounds of who he could personally work with.

So, the Ayers issue is not about 'crimes 40 years ago' it is about working with someone who engaged in domestic terrorism and still it proud of those actions, while at the same time rejecting someone who said something mean and was truely regretful for it. That's a sliding scale of personal values I find a little troubling personally.

[Chris]

Jordan,
"...two different truths that are at play here."

Head back over to facebook. The "endorsement" will be seen by most Americans for precisely what it was. Go read Boris' fluffy bunny theory. We're doing no one a favor by putting on an appeasement face for jihadists. It will just result in more (them and us) dead.

[MayBee]

Wednesday, December 4, 2002

Ten Kenyans and three Israelis were killed when three suicide bombers detonated a car bomb outside the Paradise hotel in Mombasa.

[kim]

Sue, that's too funny. Larry is just great, really. I miss the all cap rants.
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[mary e.]

for those they say that OBAMA has made it very clear of his standards of who he would work for or who could work for him:
he worked for REZKO AND DAVIS he worked for AYERS As a board director of the ANNEBERG CHALLENGE yes AYERS appointed OBAMA and was his boss 1995-2003.penny pritzer(of hyatt family)had the SUPERIOR BANK in chicago that defunked in 2002..she owes 450 mil to fdic but gave donation of $30 mil to univ.of chicago after the bank default..mmmmmmmI WONDER IF MS.MICHELE WAS on board of directors at the time???then of course mr.wright was on spiritual advisory comm. of campaign...and john brennan ceo of anaylsis corp. whose employee breached passports but this employee is still there while other 2 from other comp. were quickly fired mmmmm.and brennan is obama's foreign/intel. advisor and ms. pritzer is on finance committ of campaign OMG!!!!AND guess who bailed SUPERIOR BANK while of course bear/stearns

[Neo]

American Spectator recently had a piece (I can't find the link) about how Keyes pretty much got under Obama skin when he called him "not Christian enough". Seemed that every other attack was brushed off as nothing.

[bgates]

Larry may have come up with that bon mot independently, but he didn't come up with it first. Scott Ott used that line 4 days ago.

Jordan, look at this sentence:
Even if this "endorsement" is a positive thing for Obama's foreign policy, plenty of Americans will be afraid by this completely unsubstantiated link.
Really meaningful? No.

[Cecil Turner]

Even if this "endorsement" is a positive thing for Obama's foreign policy, plenty of Americans will be afraid by this completely unsubstantiated link.

"Unsubstantiated link"? Nobody's claiming Obama and Hamas are having planning sessions . . . that's not the point. The (fairly obvious) issue is that our sworn enemies are so enamored with the Obama campaign that they feel the need to endorse him. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I prefer making our allies happy . . . irritating our enemies is a bonus.

Further, Andrew's strategic analysis is typical of those allergic to national defense and all things military (including most Democrats). Sooner or later he might notice that a significant percentage of the billion plus Muslims on the planet would like to see us dead. Trying to convince 'em we're all nice guys is simply not feasible (and just provides the extremists--like Hamas and Hezbollah--leverage when setting bombs). Removing their access to national-level weapons systems (and attempting to sever their ties with sponsor nations) is a reasonable strategy. Making them all happy with us is not.

[Patrick R. Sullivan]

"We all agree that John Kennedy was a great president, and it's flattering when anybody says that Barack Obama would follow in his footsteps."

Oh yeah, JFK. Those were the days.

Starting off with a bang at the Bay of Pigs.

Then the Vienna meeting with Krushchev where he came across as being so in way over his head that Krushchev sent nuclear weapons to Cuba. Probably the closest the world has ever come to full scale nuclear war.

Let's not forget the Vietnam debacle where the Kennedy team decided to let our ally be assassinated because he wasn't sufficiently Camelotian.

[Rick Ballard]

If Pelosi and Reid didn't travel to Damascus in order to secure the Hamas endorsement for BHO, what was their actual objective? Were they simply laying the groundwork for Carter's meeting so that he could claim to have swung Hamas to BHO's side? I really think that Pelosi and Reid deserve some credit for their efforts. Carter can bask in the glow of the Chavez endorsement - or maybe go after Kim Jong Il if he actually wants more publicity.

[Bill in AZ]

"...what was their actual objective?"
My cynical guess is to get folks in the ME to run up the price of oil like they did in 2006 in order to trash the economy. The willing dupes in the 4th Estate have been doing their part as well. The amazing thing (and maddening for them) is that the Bush economy has been so strong it has defied their best efforts both times - and dinnerjacket has had to go out and lease even more container ships to hold the oil no one will buy.

[RichatUF]

Rick-

We can't forget that the BHO campaign sent an emissary to Syria directly. Seems that Zbigniew Brzezinski's spade work may have secured the Carter-Hamas summit and Hamas endorsment. The Dem's want to put these people back in charge...

[Pagar]

Some of the Democrat bloggers are now recommending Fox

"We find ourselves, more and more, watching Fox News because at least there’s SOME chance that Hillary Clinton will be treated with dignity and respect. And because Fox News is truly more “fair and balanced” than CNN and vastly moreso than MSNBO."

[Soylent Red]

WRT the Hamas endorsement, I don't think it means what they think it means.

To the Dems, these kinds of endorsements are trotted out to suggest that Obamessiah will be The One Who Brings Peace with these maniacs. They think that the American public will think, "Oh my! If only we elect the Boy Wonder, they will listen to him because they like him, and maybe finally we can get these people to be good global citizens, etc."

As a member of the actual, rather than imagined, American public, I'm going to suggest that perhaps many of my countrymen aren't seeing these endorsements that way.

[Pagar]

Some of the Democrat bloggers are now recommending Fox

"We find ourselves, more and more, watching Fox News because at least there’s SOME chance that Hillary Clinton will be treated with dignity and respect. And because Fox News is truly more “fair and balanced” than CNN and vastly moreso than MSNBO."

[Pagar]

Sorry for the double post, don't know what happened.

[Neo]

It really pains me when I have to agree with "Crazy Larry" Johnson ..

We may now understand why Barack does not wear a flag lapel pin. He's afraid that Bill Ayers will stomp on him. In reality, it will be the relationship with Bill Ayers that will empower the Republicans to destroy the candidacy of Barack Obama.

This is not a question of whether or not the Republicans will use this material. They will. So what is there to find? That is the area of greatest danger for the Democrats. Obama has lied about his longstanding relationship with Bill Ayers.
Why? What is he hiding? As I have pointed out before, 1995 was a critical year in the Obama/Ayers relationship. It was in 1995 that Barack was tabbed by Ayers to be the Chairman of the Annenberg Challenge (a failed $50 million project). That same year, Barack sat at a kitchen table with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Bill's wife, a plotted the ouster of Alice Palmer, who Obama took down in order to secure his place in the Illinois state senate.

If the Super Delegates do not insist on a full and complete disclosure from Barack Obama about his ties to Bill Ayers, the Republicans will force the issue in the fall. It is one thing to have a name that sounds like the terrorist who attacked us on 9-11. But it is an entirely different matter to be close friends with an unrepentant terrorist who bombed U.S. Government buildings.

There is no where to run. The relationship is genuine. This is a stonewall that will not stand.

[Uncle BigBad]

I just thought of a tactic Hillary can use to stay in the race until the convention.

Superdelegates support doesn't count until they formally cast their votes at the convention. Unlike elected, committed, delegates, superdelegates can switch their support from one candidate to another (as is now happening)until the formal vote, just as I can switch my support until I cast my ballot in November.

Hillary can argue that all those superdelegates who switched from her to Obama could very well cast their ballot for her at the convention. Therefore, all the talk about who's ahead in superdelegate count is just as meaningless as polls taken before the real election.

[LindaK]

Regarding the superdelegates, yesterday the prince in waiting made a royal procession around Capitol Hill that seemed to me, at least, to be a bit premature and even tasteless considering that the RW is not dead yet. There was a photo of Obama pigeonholing the Rep. from Guam; he had his pointy finger pointed at the woman, who looked most unhappy.

[Neo]

THAT PROVED TO BE a problem for Obama when he ran for the Senate in 2004. His Republican opponent was the bombastic, erratic and quite possibly insane black conservative Alan Keyes. Obama crushed him in the general election, but says it was harder than it looked.

"[A]s the campaign progressed, I found him getting under my skin in a way that very few people have. When our paths crossed during the campaign, I often had to suppress the rather uncharitable urge to either taunt him or wring his neck," Obama writes.

How did Keyes do this? By questioning Obama's Christian faith.

"Christ could not vote for Barack Obama," Mr. Keyes once said, "because Barack Obama has voted...in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved."

It touched a nerve in Obama and he was by his own account tongued-tied, irritable and tense during their debates. Keyes prodded Obama on the question of biblical literalism.

How could Obama believe the Bible's proclamation that life was sacred and yet support abortion rights, Keyes would ask? Obama gave "the usual liberal response" about separation of church and state.

"[Y]et even as I answered, I was mindful of Mr. Keyes's implicit accusation -- that I remained steeped in doubt, that my faith was adulterated, that I was not a true Christian," Obama complains.

Well, it wouldn't have annoyed him that much if Keyes wasn't onto something.

[hit and run]

Sue:
Can someone tell me what happened to John Edwards' delegates when he left the race?

Yes.

OK, really, that's SSP of a past JOM comment -- which contains a link to the real info here.

Save a step and go directly to the real info, if you wish.

And I am NOT going to point out that that JOM comment was a recently link on my blog to try and shame you for not reading it nor to try and con people here into going to visit it. Nope. Not going to do it.

[hit and run]

From Neo's quote:

His Republican opponent was the bombastic, erratic and quite possibly insane black conservative Alan Keyes.

Hey! Alan Keyes just got 13,554 votes in NC.

Oh, sure, that's a third of what Ron Paul got and a fifth of what Huckabee got and a little over half of what "No Preference" got.

But that's still 13,554 votes.

[windansea]

It really pains me when I have to agree with "Crazy Larry" Johnson ..

maybe we should have another JOM field trip to scarys place, except this time we could all be on the same team and not get banned and yelled at in ALL CAPS

in fact we could join Larry in all caps rants at any Obama trolls who wander in

ELECTION 2008.....yeah baby!

[Neo]

Now we can see why the sensitivity over the Hamas reference ..

One of Barack Obama’s Middle East policy advisers disclosed today that he had held meetings with the militant Palestinian group Hamas - prompting the likely Democratic nominee to sever all links with him.

[Appalled]

A thought, both for the proprietor of this blog, and some of it's commentariat:

When things have come to such a pass that one finds himself or herself agreeing full-throatedly and whole-heartedly with the accuracy challenged, yet hysterical 'Scary' Larry Johnson, one should stop a moment and condider -- does this position I am taking really make sense? Sure, one can Keep Hope Alive (TM by TM), but do you want to be standing with Larry Johnson in the cold, waiting for that inevitable indictment of Karl Rove to come down?

I think "don't worry about terrorism" Larry Johnson resents the competition from Ayers for the "most unfortunate pre-9/11 writings" award, and that is prompting his current episode of mouth froth.

As for our proprietor -- quien sabe?

[windansea]

huh? I happen to condider :) scary a leading light in the blogosphere

sure, he was wrong about Libby due to an obvious crush on Valerie

we of the JOM commentariat are forgiving people

[Neo]

Sometimes the truth is everybody's friend.

[Neo]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[hit and run]

Appalled:
When things have come to such a pass that one finds himself or herself agreeing full-throatedly and whole-heartedly with the accuracy challenged, yet hysterical 'Scary' Larry Johnson, one should stop a moment and condider -- does this position I am taking really make sense?

TM agrees with Scary about Obama being a bullshit artist. Or artiste? I don't know, whatever they say in those elite circles I am forever locked out of.

Obama agrees with Ahmadinejad about bugging out of Iraq. And bin Laden. And Zawahiri.

Someone should stop a moment and consider if the position he is taking really makes sense, shouldn't he?

[Curly]

Goose steppers of the world: stop blogging and join the mighty American military. Become a baby killer for Jesus. KBR will thank you for it!

And by the way -- how many babies did McCain bomb before he got caught with his pants down in a rice patty? Anyone out there know?

[bgates]

Silly Curly. KBR doesn't pay uniformed soldiers. They just handle the bounty for the wet teams dispatched to crush dissent. I'm on the one heading to your place now.

Run, Curly, run!

[Curly]

You're scaring me. Wet work gives you a hard on, doesn't it? Did you trade kill photos for porno permissions, too?

Join, Big Guy, join!

[Cecil Turner]

Join, Big Guy, join!

I absolutely love the fact that the loony lefty fringe thinks it's got the moral high ground to suggest a course of action they'd never dream of doing themselves. Because of the consistency, dontchaknow. Hate to break it to you, but having a deep-seated antipathy toward the military is really not praiseworthy.

[Soylent Red]

is really not praiseworthy

Nor politically popular. So by all means, proclaim it from the rooftops.

[Sara]

Let's see, the Obama camp has offended:

Small town America
Rural America
God-loving America
The Military
Senior Citizens
White America
Gun owners of America
Pro-life America
Americans for Merit rather than Entitlement
and those who believe in responsibility, common sense, hard work and pulling one's self up by the bootstraps Americans and those who believe that it doesn't take a Harvard or Ivy League degree to understand socialism is bad and never works out.

Who did I leave out?

Who is left to vote for them when the day of reckoning comes?

[hit and run]

Don't forget America-loving America.

Though that is obviously intertwined with basically all of the categories above.

[Sara]

H$R: America-loving Americans belongs at the top of the list. Trumps all the rest.

[AN]

Jordan, get real. BHO's name/face will only be an american ploy to the many young Islamists. Hey, they kill their own as we read & witness in Iraq and elsewhere. It all begins at an early age at home and school. Americans don't have to prove we are not a racist or hateful nation because our deeds prove we are a nation of giving. Are we perfect? Not yet, but "GOD Does Bless America." A man (Ayers) commits crimes 40 yrs ago and still does not repent; his recent claim he did not do enough damage and who desecrates the American flag is still a friend of BHO. YES it's meaningful. Having a friend who bombs buildings/innocent people should not run for any office. Ayers will be disowned as Rev Wright once the 527 ads hit the TV circuit. I feel his misrepresentation about "CHANGE" is the real ploy.

[Sara]

Suitably Flip introduces the new custom Obama flag pin

[Sara]

Sorry wrong thread.

[BarbaraS]

Jordan, get real. BHO's name/face will only be an american ploy to the many young Islamists. Hey, they kill their own as we read & witness in Iraq and elsewhere. It all begins at an early age at home and school.

Well, don't forget that Obama was in this category until he was ten and was listed as a muslim in Hawaii in school. Also, according to the people who knew him in Indonesia said he was very devout and memorized the Koran in arabic which only the very devout do. Also he supported his cousin, Odinga, a radical muslim in Kenya, who wants to impose sharia law in Kenya and is fighting a duly elected government to implement it.

Obama is a prime candidate for the Nation of Islam. He believes what they believe.

[Neo]

Just who is this mysterious “Frank” who Obama refuses to identify, in his autobiography, by last name?

[thesnakeguy]

McCain did lose his bearings if he thinks conservatives are willing to swallow this cap and trade crap. Why should conservatives vote for him when is running as a liberal?

[mary e.]

"frank" in OBAMA'S book was FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS who was a member of communist party usa and one who OBAMA had as another of his "mentors" and sought advise from as to his career moves.. again another great mentor ????