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May 22, 2008

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kim

I repeat, he's holding out for his perceived equal, the imam in the well.
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kim

McCain's had tens of years to come up with answers, Obama, almost ten weeks.
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clarice

Sprinkle some sand on the floor as I tap dance (to "Lets Call the Whole Thing Off"):
You say pre-conditions,
I say preparations.........
You say pre-emptive,
I say preventive....

kim

You say Iraq, I say Iran,
Let's call the whole thing East.
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Neo

This is going to leave a mark.

WASHINGTON - The House overwhelmingly rejected President Bush's veto Wednesday of a $290 billion farm bill, but what should have been a stinging defeat for the president became an embarrassment for Democrats.

Only hours before the House's 316-108 vote, Bush had vetoed the five-year measure, saying it was too expensive and gave too much money to wealthy farmers when farm incomes are high. The Senate then was expected to follow suit quickly.

Action stalled, however, after the discovery that Congress had omitted a 34-page section of the bill when lawmakers sent the massive measure to the White House.

And the Speaker is blaming the White House for this screw up. LOL

Neo

Perhaps we missed the memo declaring Obama the 12th imam.

kim

Maybe that's why he wants to talk to Ahmadi-Nejad, Neo, to clue him in. Not something you'd really trust to underlings, you know.
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kim

I mean he's capable of believing himself the messiah of America, why not the world? Si, se puede. To Infinity, and Beyond.
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Anne

The Presidency is NOT on-the-job-training!! Does Kerry - FLIP FLOPPING sound familiar?

MikeS

Secretary Rice pointed out today that the diplomatic approach to Iran is a collaborative effort agreed upon by several countries, including China and Russia. The countries involved in this multilateral approach agreed that it was the best way to convince Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions.

The more Obama defends his diplomatic initiative to have unilateral, President to 'Leader', without pre-conditions, meetings with hostile countries, the scarier he gets!

MikeS

Secretary Rice pointed out today that the diplomatic approach to Iran is a collaborative effort agreed upon by several countries, including China and Russia. The countries involved in this multilateral approach agreed that it was the best way to convince Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions.

The more Obama defends his diplomatic initiative to have unilateral, President to 'Leader', without pre-conditions, meetings with hostile countries, the scarier he gets!

clarice

This is a very good issue to hit O with and he's responded in the worst possible way-- digging himself further and further into the merde.
And it's the best time, too,after he's collected all those delegates, and the Dems for all practical purposes are absolutely stuck with this lightweight poseur.

MikeS

This has gone far beyond just misspeaking during a debate. Obama has had a lot of time to think about this. Presumably he has met with his campaign and foreign policy advisors on this subject, and they had a vote (Obama's vote representing 99%).

It is a great example of Obama's judgment. Without consulting with our allies, he made a radical proposal that will affect relations with all our allies as well as our adversaries. It is widely disagreed with, but Obama sticking with it.

Cecil Turner

Yep. He doesn't have a clue on national defense, and the more he talks about it, the more apparent that is. Prediction: if the election revolves around that issue, his shaky claim to a "judgment" advantage isn't going to hold up.

MayBee

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/david_reinhard/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1211419518316200.xml&coll=7>This is good, too.

None of this seems to matter to Obamaniacs, but it should to the rest us. It certainly makes it hard to conduct a real debate. Tuesday, for example, Obama chided McCain for misrepresenting his Cuba policy. "His charges aren't serious," Obama said. "That's the problem. I have never said that I was prepared to immediately normalize relations with Cuba."

But this is how Obama replied to a question on whether he supported normalization in a 2003 candidate's questionnaire: "Our longstanding policies toward Cuba have been a miserable failure."

It's starting to appear that a naive eagerness to talk with U.S. enemies without preconditions is only part of Barack Obama's problem.

Jane

MayBee,

He's a complete echo of Deval Patrick. No specifics, and people swoon.

Patrick R. Sullivan

If you're a Dem and even the NY Times isn't swallowing your BS, you're in trouble.

Mark Steyn also does a number on him:

What’s worse than the painting-by-numbers demagoguery are some of the accidental glimpses of the Senator’s world view. For example: “The drug companies, they’re not going to give up their profits easily when it comes to health care.”

Well, gee, how unreasonable of them. But demanding they give up their profits “easily” comes easy to him. Until he wrote his recent bestseller, the concept of “profits” was entirely theoretical to Senator Obama’s life. As his wife put it, the Obamas “left corporate America, which is a lot of what we’re asking young people to do. Don’t go into corporate America.” So Barack didn’t. Instead, he became a “community organizer”, whatever that is. At any rate, it’s a job most functioning communities seem able to do without. It would make no difference to life in this great republic if every “community organizer” in the lower 48 were to be deposited on an atoll in the Antarctic. On the other hand, if America’s drug companies were no longer profitable, it might make rather a lot of difference.

In print, Barack Obama comes as close as any major party nominee ever has to sounding like the kookiest college Marxist. But, as I say, that’s when you read his words, on the page. When you hear him, in that smooth baritone that would make “Would you like fries with that?” sound like change you can believe in, everything is terribly reasonable, moderate, evenly modulated.

MayBee

He's a complete echo of Deval Patrick. No specifics, and people swoon.

You called it back before I was ready to believe it.
He is making it up as he goes along, and people DEFEND him. People AGREE with him.
Tens of thousands cheer for him.

I can only hope that someone like Biden would be Sec of State in the Obama administration. He can be a jerk, but he has some backbone and some sense.

MikeS

No question that Obama will try to change the subject soon, to "the worst economy in 40 years."

nkj

Obama the Imam in the well? Who isn't it okay for people to talk to? Enemy?

RichatUF

Maybe he can dig something out of the Clinton playbook and get everyone's attention focused on something else for a while. He could ramp up a "Peak Oil-PANIC!!!" campaign using the devious astroturfing tacts that made Axelrod famous.

Stunning that BHO has tied himself in knots regarding this and some take it as BHO "winning" the argument. How long has this been going on-almost 2 weeks-and I still can't figure out what he's saying.

Jane

That's because he's not saying a damn thing, Rich.

Danube of Thought

His continued digging-in on this particular issue is a very troubling characteristic of this guy, among many, many others.

It's astonishing how deeply the media have dived into the tank for him. Try to imagine if any Republican had referred to the "57 states." How about "Iran is no threat to us," and "I've always said Iran was a grave threat," 48 hours apart?

This is genuine amateur hour. Scary.

Patrick R. Sullivan

Karl Rove piles on:

I recommend that he read Henry Kissinger's book, "The White House Years." Mr. Obama would learn it took 134 private meetings between U.S. and Chinese diplomats before a breakthrough at a Jan. 20, 1970 meeting in Warsaw. It took 18 months of behind-the-scenes discussions before Mr. Kissinger secretly visited Beijing. And it took seven more months of hard work before Nixon went to China. The result was a new relationship, announced in a communiqué worked out over months of careful diplomacy.

The Chinese didn't change because of a presidential visit. In another book, "Diplomacy," Mr. Kissinger writes that "China was induced to rejoin the community of nations less by the prospect of dialogue with the United States than by fear of being attacked by its ostensible ally, the Soviet Union." Change came because the U.S. convinced Beijing it was in its interest to change. Then the president visited.

MayBee

That's because he's not saying a damn thing, Rich.

Imagine his poor Farsi translator.

dking70

"Obama allowed that while he would not set preconditions, he would have "preparations""

I promise the American people that we will study real hard, pulling many all-nighters, before meeting with the various dictators and tyrants of the world. We will ace our future global tests just like Kennedy/Krushchev and Chamberlain/Hitler did.

RichatUF

Jane-

Indeed. I was thinking it might also be a conscious mental evasion. He feels that radical progressive policies are the prescription (a "Come Home America" foreign policy); however, if he were to state them clearly, he knows he would lose, so he is stuck with word games (and he is very bad at them).

Pofarmer

that sends a signal to the world that we are going to turn the page on the failed diplomacy that the Bush Administration has practiced for so long.”

Ya know, I'm sick of this meme, too.

Failed diplomacy.

Saddam gone.

Failed diplomacy.

Khaddafi's nukes gone.

Failed diplomacy.

AQ Kahn out of business.

Failed diplomacy.

Major uranium smuggling ring in Africa busted.

Failed diplomacy.

Russians putting conditions on Uranium shipments to Iran.

Failed diplomacy my ass. None of that would have happened without the invasion of Iraq.

bio mom

And I predict that should his "negotiations" fail, he would claim it was not HIS fault. It was the fault of his staff!!

MayBee

Indeed. I was thinking it might also be a conscious mental evasion. He feels that radical progressive policies are the prescription (a "Come Home America" foreign policy); however, if he were to state them clearly, he knows he would lose, so he is stuck with word games (and he is very bad at them).

Ding ding ding!

Danube of Thought

I strongly recommend going to Powerline and reading McCain's rather lengthy statement about Obama's screwball "negotiating" stance. It's maybe the best thing I have seen come out of the McCain camp since the campaign began. He's got Obama very much on the defensive here, and I hope he keeps it up.

And I strongly recommend that Jane go to tinfoilonmyhead.com. It is time to acknowledge the ineredicable stain of spygate. Shame! Shame! Specter for President!

Pofarmer

Whooops

Forgot.

Failed diplomacy.

No more terrorrist attacks on American soil, or on American interests over seas.

Failed diplomacy.

Rolling up most of the leadership of Al Quaeda.

Failed diplomacy.

Actively working with a govt that at one time supported the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Failed diplomacy.

Using the Northern Alliance to oust the Taliban with less than 10,000 U.S. troops.

The man gets no credit. If he were a Dimocrap the list of accomplishments would be a mile long.

Pofarmer

It's maybe the best thing I have seen come out of the McCain camp since the campaign began.

That advisor dude leaving was probably not a bad thing.

Jane

Indeed. I was thinking it might also be a conscious mental evasion.

I think it's a tactic. Deval Patrick, another of Axelrod's mentee's did the exact same thing for the entire campaign. He refused to get specific about anything - except that we needed "hope and change" and he won in a landslide.

DOT,

I browsed. How ridiculous does it get?

Jane

I strongly recommend going to Powerline and reading McCain's rather lengthy statement about Obama's screwball "negotiating" stance.

I know I'm an idiot, but I couldn't find it.

Danube of Thought

Jane, on closer inspection I discover that it was posted yesterday. You have to scroll down quite a way to find "The Salvos Continue."

Danube of Thought

You do understand, Jane, that the Sunday Night Football game on October 12th is Pats at Bolts. Stand by...

Sweetie

Every time BO makes a kookie college maxist suggestion on McCain should jump on him. Also, anything that BO says is a "distraction" or "off limits" is prime fodder.

BO's campaign theme is "Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes?"

Hoosierhoops

Presumably he has met with his campaign and foreign policy advisors on this subject, and they had a vote (Obama's vote representing 99%).
____________________________
Obama's policy advisors meeting
May 21st 1300 hours
David Axelrod: Ok let's get this meeting Started..
O: this joint keeps going out..
Staffer: here try my lighter sir..
Ax: Look we've got to do some damage control about meeting with Iran..
O: you're right.. get the kook on the Sat phone..
AX: no no you can't do that!
O: why the hell not? hey! my scotch glass is empty..
staffer: here you go sir..
O: (under his breathe)..bitch
AX: forget it..what about our stance on poverty?
O: I'm against it..
AX: our stance..
O: mmm no..poverty in general.
Staffer: groans and holds head in hands
O: let's go back to my roots..as a community organizer in Chicago..
AX: uh..Chicago is already organized..if you know what i mean.
O: you throwing my friends in my face? (Voice rising )
AX: umm.no sir..i just meant..
O: Could somebody please keep this joint lit? jesus christ!!
Staffer: sir let me help you..
O: Scotch and no water? scotch and no water?
what the hell is going on here?
AX: Calm down Barack..
O: Barry..call me Barry
Staffer: I think your wife is on line 2..
O: What is it bitch? don't you know i'm in an important meeting
HRC: Ummm. It's Hillary, ahh Barry?
O: It's Barack you dumb bitch...
HRC: I was wondering if you had room on the ticket you sexist pig..
O: Hold on..could somebody please keep the joint lit..for gawds sake!
You want on my ticket? did michelle put you up to this? why you want on my tik?
HRC: together we could lead america oh chosen one..
O: I'll bet Bill wants a copy of the booze cabinet key doesn't he? 109 million and you won't buy your own beer?
what's up with that? ( yelling ) Where the hell is the water for my scotch?
Staffer: Sorry sir..here you go..
O: You're fired cracker bitch!
HRC: What did you say? I'm taking this to the floor..a floor fight!
O: I wasn't talking to you bitch..
HRC: I have never been so insulted!
O: Even when your man pumped on monica? Maybe we can get together later..you know what i mean?
Click..
Laughter in the room
AX: You told her sir..
O: yea.. I've been wanted to nick that bitch..
OK now..we got all the important stuff covered?
Great! AX.. roll another one would ja.. I got an old tape of Soul Train i want to watch..
Staffer: Sir.. I think it's Michelle..
O: SH*T! Woman..tell her i'm BUSY..

The rest of the meeting notes were blacked out..along with the advisors..


Jane

You do understand, Jane, that the Sunday Night Football game on October 12th is Pats at Bolts. Stand by...

After the debacle of last winter, I may have to go back to being a fair weather fan (particularly if there is now a team called the "Bolts". I am so out of the loop.)

But you are right about one thing - the McCain response to Obama was great.

MikeS

What's up at the NYT? First they print an actual news story about the progress being made in Iraq, then they run an fact based op-ed.
Its almost as if they're trying to be a newspaper.

Danube of Thought

Sorry, Jane--I know what a rabid Sox fan you are (me too), and wrongly assumed you felt the same about the Pats. The "Bolts" are the S.D. Chargers, so nicknamed because of the lightning bolts on their helmets.

Jane

Ahhhh - I see.

DOT, I'm truly a fair weather fan. I got interested in the PAts about 5 games into their winning streak last year. And they broke my heart. But I'll get excited for the "Bolts" game. Just don't invite Spector.

Neo

diplomatic initiative to have unilateral, President to 'Leader', without pre-conditions, meetings with hostile countries

Could this be called ..

pre-emptive diplomacy

JM Hanes

"Look, Obama is making this up as he goes along."

If you've read Joe Klein over time, it's impossible to believe he's not knowingly colluding in the rehabilitation of Obama's credibility-busting errors and false starts.

Then you've remarks like the one Maybee pointed out in the Jack Tapper interview, where Obama's flagrantly false version of history goes utterly unchallenged:

The one area we saw progress, North Korea, and that is in direct proportion to the Bush administration's reversing itself and participating in the six-party talks when early on they refused and (North Korea) developed nuclear weapons they didn't have when George Bush took office.
One day, we're journalists 'splainin' the news, the next day we're just journeymen reporting what the candidate says.

Topping off this profoundly depressing week in media obscurantism, we've got coverage of the Karsenty decision. We wouldn't want to frontpage one of the biggest international, history changing, media scandals evah, when we're in the middle of a full court press for shield laws, now would we?

Obama makes stuff up because he can. What enrages me most about politics today, though, and what degrades debate beyond all hope of redemption is not confined to his campaign. Politicians freely lie about their opponents' positions, and the only institution with the wherewithal and the public presence to challenge them effectively -- and whose privileges derive from their putative willingness to do so --- defaults. This isn't just depressing, it's dangerous.

Chickens and eggs are plentiful here, but the polarization of the Fourth Estate is more disturbing than the ostensible polarization of the populace. The Weekly Standard, for example, can offer up a corrective, but it will be loudly, and widely, dismissed out of hand as right wing propaganda. Unfortunately, such charges are not always unwarranted; killing the messenger is not exclusive to the left. While the New York Times has never been as free of bias as one might have liked, its downhill trajectory is, in truth, a tragedy. The old adage about being entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts has become a debatable proposition, and we are in desperate need of recognizably reliable sources.

Battling cynicism is always the toughest fight in almost any sphere, and I've begun to feel like I'm losing the internal part of that battle lately. Cynicism is ultimately an embrace of helplessness in the face of what are presumed to be insurmountable odds, and there's nothing more debilitating. In a truly perverse irony, Obama's campaign is built on the comforting illusion of idealism, like a mirage in a desert. Making the world a better place means confronting hard choices, and daunting challenges; Obama tells a nation of thirsty people that all you have to do is believe. He makes idealism sound as easy as cynicism, but it's not.

MikeS

Could this be called .. pre-emptive diplomacy

Seems to meet all the pre-quirements.

clarice

JMH, I wish you'd submit that to AT ([email protected]) Tell the editor I sent you.
It's a wonderful blog item.

nlk

Come home foreign policy? Look at his legislation. home is his cult and he's right and your wrong. He's committed hislife to his cult and got paid. He wants more and that is why he's losing. His deal was for a Congressman in Chicago where he's 'understood.'

We can't afford a cult nut in the White House and Obama is classic case #1. Maybe running with the dems got him freed, but it's difficult to re program and it's dems because they believe in the cult commune system. Lucifer works that way. I passed on the dem vote shit.

Danube of Thought

"The one area we saw progress, North Korea..."

In 1973 my best buddy was in law school at the U. of Michigan. The law school forum had as its guest speaker one day none other than Jane Fonda. When she had finished whatever she had to say and agreed to take questions, one student said "Miss Fonda, you have told us that we should re-think our aversion to communisim, and consider some of its successes. What communist nation would you point to as a successful one?"

Without an instant's hesitation, Miss Fonda responded "North Korea."

Plus ca change...

Danube of Thought

Another student said--I swear I'm not making this up, and I promise to God that I'm not endorsing it--"Would you lift up your sweater and show us your tits?"

MikeS

There is every reason to expect Obama to have an understanding of the Kennedy-Kruschev meetings at least in agreement with the Times op-ed contributors Nathan Thrall and Jesse James Wilkins.

Obama reportedly wrote his senior thesis on Soviet Nuclear Disarmament. Which I would assume included the disarmament talks in Vienna in 1961 between Kennedy and Kruschev.

So, Obama's demonstrated ignorance regarding the Kennedy-Kruschev talks is puzzling. Either Barack never knew about the failure of those meetings, (which calls into question his academic standing and his secret college transcripts) or he knew at one time but later forgot, (which would give one pause regarding his mental acumen) or he knew and remembers the information correctly yet misreported it in his remarks on the subject (which would hint that he is just a snake oil selling flim flam man out to bamboozle and hoodwink voters).

MarkO

DOT, that reminds me of a screening of “Deep Throat” at law school where one enlightened fellow, while viewing the important scene, jumped up and said, “But, can she cook?”

Soylent Red

MikeS:

The aforementioned senior thesis was undoubtedly graded by a dyed in the wool lib. Said thesis was accepted and ObaMahdi somehow graduated. Thus you can be sure that the facts of Kennedy-Kruschev, 1961 did not:

a. denigrate the all-wise and all-knowing vision of liberal icon JFK

b. challenge the liberal dogma of disarmament and negotiated peace.

Soylent Red

rather:

"the facts presented WRT Kennedy-Kruschev..."

I blame Clarice.

gonk

Why not let Pres. Obama go meet with Ahmadinejad? I don't see what the big deal is.

Jane

Gonk,

Well it could have something to do with 3 multi-lateral resolutions out of the UN Security counsel that say no one will negotiate with him until he gets rid of his nuclear program - assuming the UN is your kind of organization.

It could have something to do with the fact that the offer alone shows Obama knows nothing about negotiation or foreign policy.

It could be that Ahmadinejad will mop the floor with him, and make him a laughing stock, much like he did at Columbia.

For a start....

MikeS

Obama was an International Relations major and then a law student. Based on that I would expect him to have a much better understanding of diplomacy than of macro economics.
God help us!

Danube of Thought

"Obama was an International Relations major and then a law student."

Actually, based on that I wouldn't expect him to have an understanding of jack shit.

bgates

Jane, follow Gonk's link.

Gonk, that first poster was great.

Gmax

Ditto DOT

ParseThis

So McCain denounces Hagee and cuts his ties to Hitler. Good for him. Who knows how this 'hunter' would punish American Jews for failing to leave this country for Israel. But Parsley is still out there and getting attention in the Middle East media. I can already see the cartoon depictions of McCain and Parsley taking target practice on Qurans titled 'Preconditions' with a caption like, "We will confiscate their guns and God, and force their women to dress like Barbi."

Of course, this would complicate the security planning of state visits by President McCain to Muslim countries, because who would really want to trust Islamic security guards. This is probably already compromising the ability of governments in Muslim nations to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism, as well as American efforts to export democracy and human rights abroad.

That a McCain presidency would cause such complications in our dealings with the Islamic world is not likely to be a major factor with American voters, and may score him a few extra votes. But of all the well-meaning desires to speak for full-blooded Americans, the hope that McCain offers a decisive improvement in conducting foreign relations with the world’s Muslims is simply not realistic.

What sayest thou Senator McCain? "Folks, there'll be more wars."

ParseThis

By the way, I'll keep showing up on every thread in which you criticize Obama (or any other Democrat) and fill it up with the latest Townhouse talking points.

I may not be able to completely derail the discussion away from Obama's idiocy, but at the very least I get to make use of high-traffic blogs like this one to spread a lot of slander and innuendo about the Republicans and McCain.

Thanks for the attention, and the platform!


MikeS

Pharce This,
Not sure what you've been smokin' Bud, but it's no good for you.

Jane

Oh dear, now I'm scared. Pharce wants to disrupt us. He's invoking Hitler. How scary.

I guess there are no "high traffic blogs" for moonbats.

SteveMG

spread a lot of slander and innuendo about the Republicans and McCain.

Thanks for the heads up. We'll all be sure to bring large shovels the next time you post.

ParseThis

I guess I should have hit preview before posting, that last comment should read:

By the way, I'll stop showing up on every thread in which you criticize Obama (or any other Democrat), filling it up with your own talking points, when mimicking you isn't as much fun.

I may not be able to completely derail the discussion away from idiocy, but at the very least I get to make use of high-traffic blogs like this one to practice a lot of slander and innuendo used by the Republicans and McCain.

Thanks for the attention, and the fodder!

SteveMG

Thanks for the attention, and the fodder!

You set them up and we'll knock them down.

It'll be good practice for our discussions with adults in the real world.

centralcal

Thank you Parse for announcing to us that you are a Farce! As if we hadn't figured that out already.

You go, girl -- do whatever floats your boat.

JM Hanes

ParseThis:

"By the way, I'll stop showing up on every thread in which you criticize Obama (or any other Democrat), filling it up with your own talking points, when mimicking you isn't as much fun."

No wonder your previous posts made more sense than the usual trolls!

Danube of Thought

Is this fellow Parse quite sane? I am moved to doubt...

How horribly will the once-promising candidacy of B. Obama erode in the coming six months? It could be something of epic proportions, and in the future might compete with Al Gore and global warming as a source of agreed-upon, "consensus" ridicule. It will be great fun to watch all of it. Think how unhappy these poor stupes are going to be!

MikeS

I think Obama is about to pivot to the economy. Worst economy in 40 years, rich get richer while everyone else gets poorer. Windfall profits tax, punishment for capital gains tax, tax for eating to much, tax for using too much energy, tax for raising our children to be little doubters, etc.

Pagar

To explain how there could possibly still be Obama Fans


"Comment by heroyalwhyness at Michelle Malkin, following a Obama's 'gaffe' post:

"email funny"

A teacher in Elmira , New York , who is an Obama supporter, asked her 4th grade class,'How many of you are Obama fans?' Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands, except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different?

Little Johnny said, 'Because I'm not an Obama fan.'

The teacher asked, 'Why aren't you an Obama fan?'

Johnny said, 'Because I'm a Republican.' The teacher asked him why he's a Republican.

Little Johnny answered, 'Well, my Mom's a Republican and my Dad's a Republican, so I'm a Republican.'

Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, 'If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?'

With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, 'That would make me an Obama fan.'

Jane

Isn't it amazing that nearly all Oporkmafiles are just like pharce? Same level of intelligence, same inability to deal with issues, same malicious intent. It's downright predictable.

ParseThis

Isn't it amazing that nearly all Oporkmafiles are just like pharce? Same level of intelligence, same inability to deal with issues, same malicious intent. It's downright predictable.

Thanks for the fodder!

Pagar

"rich get richer while everyone else gets poorer"

Take a look at Obama's income tax returns and compare them to Yours

Take a look at who is giving him money and compare it what he says about lobbyists and Wall Street

I would recommend Obama not try to stress how the rich are getting richer, when one ofthe primary examples on who is getting richer is the Obama family.

ParseThis

Warren Buffett: "I don't think McCain is going to change his views to be in accord with mine. I admire him a lot. I think he's an absolutely first-class human being, and if the Republicans are going to elect somebody I hope it's John McCain. But he has too many ideas that are different than I do, particular in terms of what I would call social justice."

Commie!

RichatUF

test

RichatUF

ParseThis-

Yawn. Social Justice...so what is this "Billionaires for Obama" hour?

I thought that the Democrats were supposed to be for the "little guy"-nice to know that you are actually for exploitation by the rich.

HoosierHoops

Isn't it amazing that nearly all Oporkmafiles are just like pharce? Same level of intelligence, same inability to deal with issues, same malicious intent. It's downright predictable.

Jane:

well that did bear repeating...

Other than that..my experience with the obama crowd is the script is so the same..the same talking points..the mindless repeating of the line..
I don't know about you but i like my politics complex and interesting..
I stopped repeating the talking points with the nuns a long time ago.
It's like the invasion of the Borgs. :)
It's like you can't discuss anything that will really matter,, It's like when its saturday morning and these really really religious groups of people show up wanting to talk about God.. you know that no matter what you say.. they won't change thier mind
( and you could talk for hours..)
So why try?
So what i do is make fun of the obama trolls or better yet Obama.. I just feel better when i do..

Did you watch American Idol last night? It was great..Dvid and David got 97 million votes!
I heard Hillary was watching and called David Cook and offered him the VP slot..for 50 million of his votes.

answer&reply

I think it might be who we can't meet with; Cause we just don't understand.......Obama understands. Kenya was pretty interesting, but S.Africa legislation is even more interesting. So, it has to be Rice, one of her State Department people or Africom or one of his people. We're supposed to understand that's okay. We're not supposed to mention money and careers. We're supposed to ignore the legislation. We're supposed to not notice what is being done to us. Obama can't figured everyone's figured his cult and he never really got out and can't go in the White House, neither can Hillary because she believes in the cults like most dems do. Free lunch at the commune.

Don't worry there are lots of class one millennial stars in the universe, not just me; although I have looked into the portal of time and found no evidence of any on earth.

Causality cultists.

JM Hanes

Jane:

I think ParseThis is really just looking for an excuse to escape the intellectual wasteland on the left. Can you imagine spending your time mimicking the talking points at an Obama fan site?

Danube of Thought

Buffett's notions of social justice became much more finely honed after he had himself a couple billion. Kind of Kennedy-like, or maybe Jay Rockefeller-esque. Or let us consider the ultimate humanitarian, off-shore mutlti-billionaire, inheritance-tax-immune George Soros.

The cavalcade of altruists should put us all to shame--we're just so damn greedy!

JM Hanes

Clarice: "I wish you'd submit that to AT"

Thanks -- I'll see if I can massage it into a stand alone item, although just this afternoon, I swore to myself that I'd start spending less time on politics! The piece I really want to write is a response to Yuval Levin's reform agenda

RichatUF

Too bad I can't pump tens of millions into political causes to help my business and be called a "philanthropist". At least Carnegie had libraries and hospitals built.

Jane

I just have one thing to say this morning:

TGIF.

HoosierHoops

Good Morning Jane et.al
No it's TGIFF
Thank god it's fast friday..
Today out at the Speedway it's fast friday..
Fast Car's, Cold Beers, great food and a free stone temple pilot concert.
What more could you ask for?

Jane

Have fun HH

laura

New Vets for Freedom Ad. Makes Obama look as foolish and petty as he is. Click on my name for link

PeterUK

"The countries involved in this multilateral approach agreed that it was the best way to convince Iran to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions."

Which is a euphemism for France Russia and China to stop selling arms to Iran.

kim

I don't understand why Democrats don't call him on the NoKo carp. That was either remarkably ignorant, or evil. Oh, nevermind, now I see why he hasn't been called on it.
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Charlie (Colorado)

Another student said--I swear I'm not making this up, and I promise to God that I'm not endorsing it--"Would you lift up your sweater and show us your tits?"

But I am.

I'd much rather look at Jane Fonda's tits than listen to her political opinions.

MayBee

So would I, Charlie.

Neo

Where do you think Bush will save this beauty ..

"I'll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we...the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn't say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn't true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts...and people ate it up."

Woof.

PeterUK

Parse This is obviously Michelle Obama.

PeterUK

"I'd much rather look at Jane Fonda's tits than listen to her political opinions."

Probably both sagging by now,but you can't get a brazier for the brain.

boris

you can't get a brazier for the brain

Maybe the silicon implant I'm developing would help.

Jane

Hey Charlie,

I'm assuming you escaped the storm? Are you okay?

cathyf
Probably both sagging by now,but you can't get a brazier for the brain.
One year at the reading of the passion on Good Friday, they came to the part where Simon Peter is in the high priest's courtyard and denies Jesus 3 times and the cock crows. The lector read it as

"...Peter warmed his hands over the brassiere in the courtyard..."

PeterUK

Yes ,they were hot stuff in those days.I realised it was brassiere after I typed it.You would be surprised how many men have never typed brassiere before.

clarice

HEH--I heart PUK.

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