Hillary lost because she didn't have enough money? So says campaign adviser Mark Penn:
While everyone loves to talk about the message, campaigns are equally about money and organization. Having raised more than $100 million in 2007, the Clinton campaign found itself without adequate money at the beginning of 2008, and without organizations in a lot of states as a result. Given her successes in high-turnout primary elections and defeats in low-turnout caucuses, that simple fact may just have had a lot more to do with who won than anyone imagines.
Well, credible candidates with a compelling message and high name recognition can generally raise money, especially with an ex-President in their corner. The WaPo thought so in Feb 2007, anyway; OpenSecrets shows the Clinton fund-raising tailing off in the second half of 2007 as the campaign unfolded, as did Obama's.
Cogitamus reviews the players for those lacking a scorecard.
Penn:
While everyone loves to talk about the message, campaigns are equally about money and organization.
What, if Penn had had more money the organization he was tasked to lead would have known that California was not a winner take all state?
Someone's missing a little organization, in the head.
Posted by: hit and run | June 08, 2008 at 10:55 AM
My favorite was when, wearing his lobbyist hat, he talked up the free trade agreement with the Colombians. The fact that he's an utter boor makes it all the sweeter.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 08, 2008 at 11:08 AM
The only thing missing from her campaign was Shrum but by then "I'm going to fight for you...." (his formula was always this line, spending a lot on ad buys of which he took a hefty percentage, and an ultimate loss) was there to be heisted for nothing.
Posted by: clarice | June 08, 2008 at 11:35 AM
In a just world, Penn would find himself without the opportunity for gainful employment again.
Lucky for us, though, the Democrats are nothing if not for injustice.
Thus, some poor Democrat will turn to him for advice again and soon.
Posted by: hit and run | June 08, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Heh, Clarice, I was going to make my point -- and THEN bring up Shrum. But you beat me to it.
Same as it ever was
Posted by: hit and run | June 08, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Do you remember when the Democrats thought there was too much money and too much emphasis on image in the US Presidential campaign?
Posted by: MayBee | June 08, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Not enough money? Wow. She probably raised more money in a primary than any candidate in history not named Barack Obama. And as BO demonstrated when he won eleven contests in a row, many of them caucuses, nothing succeeds in raising cash quite like victory. It allowed him to run out the clock in the post super Tuesday portion.
Posted by: Chris | June 08, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Here's Rick Davis of the McCain campaign, as quoted by Geraghty on Friday:
“'It’s a much more egalitarian environment, moneywise, than anyone’s willing to report,' Davis said. He explained a chart that showed John McCain’s campaign and the RNC having a combined $85.1 million ( 53.6 for the RNC, $31.5 million for McCain and their 'what we believe, pretty confident' estimates of their counterparts – $46.5 million cash on hand for Obama, $4.4 million for the DNC
“'We’re at least $35 million ahead of them in terms of cash on hand,' he concluded."
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 08, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Quick, follow the money!
I trust the FBI team investigating the Hsu matter and other campaign money fraud, will check for foreign bank accounts, before we have another Vince Foster incident, since he delivered monies to Switzerland for her.
Posted by: BL | June 08, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Well money buys a lot of stuff but it doesn't buy the media. She and Bill used to own the media who were happy to do billions of dollars of positive campaign spin for free. Once she lost the media to Obama she could never get that organ of influence back, no matter how much moola she had in her pocketbook.
Posted by: Daddy | June 08, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Maybe 89 over in the Flat Line thread already gave us the Swiss bank account numbers - or Andorra, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Channel Islands or the various BCCIs in the Caribbean :)
Posted by: BL | June 08, 2008 at 01:40 PM
I'd like to thank Hillary for making Obama spend 100's of millions just so he could limp to the finish line. And with his chief fund raiser behind bars, the next $200MM won't be as easy.
Hillary in '08!!!!
Posted by: Bunny | June 08, 2008 at 02:39 PM
I think you have missed the real nub of this.Just as Hillary wants Universal Healthcare for all,this is obviously the start of a campaign for Universal Candidate Support.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 08, 2008 at 02:40 PM
"Having raised more than $100 million in 2007, the Clinton campaign found itself without adequate money at the beginning of 2008, and without organizations in a lot of states as a result."
That's about as good as the case for firing Management gets -- which makes Hillary's real mistake pretty obvious to everybody not named Mark Penn.
Posted by: JM Hanes | June 08, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Hillary lost not because she ran out of money, but because she ran out of states. If those seven special states that Obama visited held primaries, it is likely that Hillary would have overcome Barack's tiny lead in pledged delegates.
Posted by: MikeS | June 08, 2008 at 03:31 PM
So hers was the real 57 state strategy!
Posted by: Jane | June 08, 2008 at 04:12 PM
Money or Media?
Rassmussen reports:
Posted by: Sara | June 08, 2008 at 04:34 PM
How's that kid?
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Posted by: kim | June 08, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Kim, good news, he will be coming home from the hosptial late today, probably around dinner time.
Posted by: Sara | June 08, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Sara, that's awesome to hear.
Awesome.
Best news of the day.
Posted by: hit and run | June 08, 2008 at 04:54 PM
I've led a pretty quiet life in the last 7 years with caring for my elderly Mother until her death and then being so crippled up with my back. When the kids came to live, the house became a madhouse as only houses with young children can be. I didn't realize how energizing for me it was to have the little ones around. The house seems like such a morgue now, the quiet is driving me nuts. There is nothing more uplifting than the sound of a child laughing.
Posted by: Sara | June 08, 2008 at 05:01 PM
Mark Penn and Scott McClellan are birds of a feather. Neither can face up to their own mistakes. Always better for them to blame someone or something else.
Proven losers who are legends in their own minds.
Why would anyone in their right mind hire them?
Posted by: vnjagvet | June 08, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Great news about Christian, Sara. Now you know he's got gramma's toughness genes.
Posted by: vnjagvet | June 08, 2008 at 06:02 PM
Isn't that grand news,Sara?
Posted by: clarice | June 08, 2008 at 06:27 PM
Bueno.
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Posted by: kim | June 08, 2008 at 06:47 PM
For those who think only American-born actors are morons, go to the link under my name. It seems to come with the profession, regardless of race, color, creed or national origin.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 08, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Maybe it's old age,DOT. He used to be a great bridge player/ (Michael Ledeen was often his partner.)
Posted by: clarice | June 08, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Long ago and far away, I so had a crush on Omar Sharif. Glad to know that I have become not merely older, but wiser.
Posted by: centralcal | June 08, 2008 at 09:03 PM
Can somebody who has been paying attention explain something to me? Obama won lots of caucus states, while Clinton won primary states. I would assume that the number of caucus voters would be significantly less than primary voters. (You can vote anytime, all day, in a primary, whereas you have to show up at the exact time/place for a caucus.) So how are people comparing the number of votes?
For example, in some caucus state, there are 5 delegates up for grabs, and Obama gets 8000 votes to Clinton's 2000, four delgates to one. Then there is a primary state, with 4 delegates, Clinton gets 75,000 to Obama's 25,000 -- three delegates to one. So between the two states, Obama gets 5 delegates and Clinton gets 4. But it would be absurd to simply add up the caucus votes and primary votes -- Clinton would have 77,000 and Obama 33,000.
So when people say that Clinton has slightly more votes than Obama, what does that mean? Given that Obama won mostly caucus states Clinton primary states, that would represent a landslide for Obama.
Posted by: cathyf | June 08, 2008 at 09:11 PM
Funny he should announce this now, when it seems Iraq may actually be successful at democracy.
Islam has a concept related to proportional representation called 'justice'. To my meager understanding this concept conveyed the principle that even the least powerful member of a community still had rights.
I also know that Sistani studied Jefferson, Adams, and de Toqueville, because democracy is absent from the Koran. Little doubt that he has a theological rationale for democracy.
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Posted by: kim | June 08, 2008 at 09:15 PM
cathyf, the dems had ridiculous rules for assigning numbers of delegates. IIRC they were hammered out when Jesse Jackson was a candidate and tend to give more weight to areas where the Dems won the last general election--i.e., inner cities.
As for the allocation of caucus and primary votes, each state sets those and I read today Texas still hasn't figured out what the final tally was.
Posted by: clarice | June 08, 2008 at 09:22 PM
cathyf-
I'm a bit lazy right now to look it up, but a number of states had delegates awarded in both a caucus and a primary. TX was the biggest of the messes, but I think WA fell into the same category. It was a perfect concoction of identity politics, impenetrable rules, and micropolling, with the predicitable results: a less than clear cut winner with the other side feeling "cheated".
Posted by: RichatUF | June 08, 2008 at 11:10 PM
I looked at the RCP cheat sheet and they have 6 different formulas to calculate Popular Vote. The little star by Washington shows that they could have indulged themselves with a seventh.
Posted by: RichatUF | June 08, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Rich,
The Nikkei is off 2% already. Tomorrow may be as interesting as the President's Day weekend. I suppose we could see a sharp snap back - the bond yield didn't move much on Friday at all.
I wish the commodities investigation would put out more news - I don't believe it was a very bright idea to announce "we're investigating" without doing regular follow ups.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 08, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Rick-
The news flow all week was all sorts of crazy. I'm still scratching my head as to why Trichet said he may raise euro interest rates after Bernicke was trying to stabilize the dollar.
I did notice that Sec. Paulson was over in the ME last week too.
I think if I hear another person on TV or read another article saying that the price of oil is "demand from China", I'm going to break something.
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Well we have the well known 'terror premium', now we can add the 'Persian Premium'. Oil jumped $12 a barrel when an Israeli politician rattled a sabre.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 06:53 AM
Good Morning everyone! This morning the Obamabots were calling the adjective "liberal" a distraction. What a joke this campaign has become.
DoT, I watched that game (so you didn't have to). At this point you may not have to worry about game seven.
Posted by: Jane | June 09, 2008 at 07:59 AM
- I don't believe it was a very bright idea to announce "we're investigating" without doing regular follow ups.
This is the govt we're talking about.
Posted by: Pofarmer | June 09, 2008 at 09:02 AM
And this "Persian Threat" was only discovered Friday?
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Oh, no, Rich, just accentuated on Friday with a statement from the former Minister of Defense.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 09:32 AM
Rich,
I agree with you about "rising demand in China" wholeheartedly - it's amazing that the World Bank's minor reduction of the size of China's economy (by what, 40%?) didn't penetrate at all. PPP numbers don't buy oil, dollars do. Reducing China's economy to dollars shows that $135 oil will bankrupt China (and India) fairly quickly. Theoretically, a command economy should be able to react instantaneously to external basic cost increases. Instead, in both instances, political fear has negated any response whatsoever, bleeding off a decade's "net profit" in a year or two.
All that, aside from the fact that a slowdown in growth in the US puts a tightening tourniquet the scrawny neck of the Chinese economy to begin with.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 09, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Rick-
I had a passing thought that might be of interest regarding this? The rapid run up in oil and across the energy complex could be a run at the NYMEX itself. I'm focusing on the constant drumbeat of the "$150 price target" and what a disorderly unraveling might do. If NYMEX gets gummed up and is on the hook for hugh losses the trade is going to go elsewhere?
Took a quick peek and the short interest is only 2.5% on NYMEX, so I'm thinkin this dog won't hunt, and heretofore, don't really think anyone has looked at the risk of the exchange with prices this high. I haven't heard anything at least.
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Don't miss Iowahawk's campaign--I love his defense and energy policies (per instapundit)
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/06/and-then-there.html>bombing Malibu
Posted by: clarice | June 09, 2008 at 10:15 AM
kim-
Israel has made belligerent comments regarding Iran on a regular basis. Oil moved about 2 dollars during the week of their attack on Syria (granted it moved up 15 from Aug07 to Nov07).
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 10:22 AM
You haven't read the comment or the discussion of its effect.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 10:24 AM
You haven't read the comment or the discussion of its effect.
What?
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 10:29 AM
The statement from the former Minister of Defense about bombing Iran.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Damn, why don't I learn to link? Oh, yes, now I remember.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 10:31 AM
It's Mofaz who is beating the drums. I can't remember where I read that his remarks spooked the market.
Look, Rich, you know a lot more about this than I do. Perhaps I'm wrong, and that remark had no effect Friday.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 10:36 AM
kim-
I know who said it and the statement hit the wires something around 4 AM NY time Friday. Many former officials have been making comments re: Iran for years. Sure it had an effect, it's obvious, but it didn't justify an $11 move.
It felt like the "Spook the Market Wednesday" Nigeria attacks that were in vouge a few months back.
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I don't think so, Rich... The nymex is a futures exchange, which means that they settle up every day's profits and losses every day. We could certainly see some big players (and more than some little players) go bust, but they will peel off day by day, not all at once, like what happens in the stock market. In the stock market you are allowed to hold on to unrealized losses for as long as you can make the margin payments. In the futures markets, you have to come up with the pay-collects every morning, so you can't get anywhere nearly as big a leverage.
The sign to look for exchanges and firms getting antsy about the credit risks is if they up the margin requirements. The mechanism when someone busts out is that first the exchange makes the margin call, which the trader can't make. The exchange then transfers ownership of the positions that belong to the busted-out trader to the exchange member (FCM=Full Clearing Member) that cleared the busted-out trader's trades. The FCM confiscates the trader's collateral. If the FCM goes bust, then the positions, and the FCM's collateral, revert to the exchange. Which is backed by the capital of its members (the losses will be parceled out to the members) and also they have insurance policies when the losses reach a certain point.
Futures are derivatives -- you are not trading oil on the nymex, you are trading one day's price move in oil, one day at a time, with settlement every day. If the nymex were to melt down in a price run-up, what would happen is that in that last day the people who made money that day would lose some/most of that day's trading profits. The catastrophe in a busted exchange would be that then there would not be an exchange to lay off risk in the days going forward, not in people losing their trading profits for the trades that they have already made.
Posted by: cathyf | June 09, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Mornin', Jane. I tivo'd game two, so I could chcek the result to see whether I should watch. I deleted it wihout ever opening it. Unless my buddy notifies me that the series is tied 2-2, I won't watch any more basketball until March Madness 2009. Gutless front-runner that I am, I have jumped hurriedly off the Laker bandwagon.
Now begins the dreaded 2 1/2 month sports desert until they tee up the pigskin come late August.
Clarice, I think I recall that you and Ledeen are friends, right?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 09, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Found it:
news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080608/ts_nm/israel_iran_mofaz-dc
Now I'm exhausted. You are probably right anyway, because Friday wasn't the first time Mofaz rattled sabres. He's a big hawk on Iran.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Sorry, Rich, I type slow -- my "I don't think so" was in response to your worrying about the run-up being an attack on the nymex itself.
Posted by: cathyf | June 09, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Mofaz said that an Israeli strike on Iran was unavoidable.
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 11:00 AM
DOT,Right.
Posted by: clarice | June 09, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Oh, heck, the last part of the Mofaz link should be mofaz_dc
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Posted by: kim | June 09, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Now begins the dreaded 2 1/2 month sports desert
DOT,
The US Open begins Thursday. First Tiger sighting since the Masters. It will be worth watching.
Posted by: Jane | June 09, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Right, Jane--and it's right here in my back yard. Lots of local interest.
I just learned that back on February 19, Crazy Larry Johnson wrote that Bill Ayers would become Obama's Willie Horton. How's that working out?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 09, 2008 at 11:13 AM
cathyf-
The catastrophe in a busted exchange would be that then there would not be an exchange to lay off risk in the days going forward, not in people losing their trading profits for the trades that they have already made.
It was a stray thought, but that was what I was getting at. If NYMEX can't handle it, the market moves to Dubai Borse or elsewhere. It was something I had thought about before: The combined effects of FISA reform, 9/11 bank reporting requirements, and Sar-Box have led to a move for countries (companies?) to get from underneath the dollar. The reason being is that technology is allowing OFAC to connect the dots faster because they can match the money flows, communication flows, and people. Like I said, sort of a stray thought and maybe not really that interesting, just throwing it out there.
kim-
Its alot like Stiglitz claiming the Iraq War is to blame for the run up in oil prices. Sure, seems reasonable, but violence in Iraq is negatively correlated to oil price.
Posted by: RichatUF | June 09, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I don't think this was the plan....
From Rasmussen, it looks like only 33% havent seen the light yet...
"In December, before the Iowa caucuses launched Obama’s successful campaign for the nomination, the Illinois Senator was seen as politically liberal by 47% of voters nationwide. By April, that number had grown to 54%. Today, 67% see him as politically liberal including 36% who say he is Very Liberal."
Posted by: ben | June 09, 2008 at 01:08 PM
The other issue with risk to the trading system is that the big question is who has the short positions, and whether they are really short? A day-to-day, bread-and-butter use of the futures markets is to lock in profits. So you have XYZ Oil Company which has a gazillion barrels of oil in storage that the bought and/or produced for an average of $40/barrel. If they put on a short futures contract position at $120/barrel and then it goes to $150/barrel, then they "only" make a profit of $80/barrel minus holding costs, rather than $110/barrel minus holding costs. No worry about anybody going bust there!
Derivatives markets are all about transferring risk from one party to another, and players use the markets both to hedge and to speculate. The hedgers tend to be the giant gorillas, and they are using their positions to lower their risks, so when their risk goes down at the price of them losing out on some spec profits, they paid a fair price for what they got. As for the speculators, they win some, they lose some, and you shouldn't gamble with money that you can't afford to lose.
The real losers are everybody in the economy as a whole who is pinched by the high prices.
Posted by: cathyf | June 09, 2008 at 01:29 PM
Obama has just done something interesting--if he knew what he was doing--by replacing Austan Goolsbee with Jason Furman as his chief economic adviser. Because Furman is a very prominent defender of Wal-Mart against its critics:
The paper goes into detail and eviscerates WM's critics. One of whom happens to be Barack Obama, who criticized Hillary for being on WM's board.
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