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June 19, 2008

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kim

And what say you of the Housing scandal with ugly tentacles from the Democrats? Kindly quit booing the victory lap over Iraq and address a little of the blatant corruption here.
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PeterUK

These Cheetos,what are they? Sound like a young man could come to harm if he got his hands mixed up.Perhaps that explains the anger?

Sue

Top,

I liked Cap'n Ed's headline...under oath Scotty says I dunno.

kim

A man who can turn on his past master, can turn on his present one. I'll wait, patiently.
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kim

What do they say, sit long enough by the riverside and you can see the bodies of all your enemies float by. We've had a lot of fun with the corpse of Scary.
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kim

You see, Scotty has retailed only lies about the administration; he could tell the truth about the disinformation that became his book. It's his one chance for real fame, and he may see it someday.
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truthynesslover

Go ahead and vote for mccain and watch the military collapse.My son for one will not re=enlist although he feels an obligation to serve and because they have given him a great education.And where are we going to get all the new troops for the next war with IRAN??What if china decides to call in its chips or that weve been so weakened they can start their cyber warThere are no more troops left to send ,some people are on their fifth and sixth tour,they are commiting suicide at an unpresidented rate so think DRAFT!mccain is even dumber than bush!So Good luck with that because bush has worked out so well on every level hasnt he and mccain IS mcsame and insane!!

truthynesslover

MORE WAR-FEWER JOBS VOTE MCCSAME!!

Cole Sear

Kim, you asked me to read the thread and say something is proven by it. I see two veterans who both are calling the lot of you chickenhawks. I see all of you squirm in shame. The only thing that is "proven" is that you and the other yokels here never served and never will. So you yowl in shame.

That's your problem, not mine.

Pofarmer

My son for one will not re=enlist

If he has your attitude I imagine some officers will cheer.

kim

Thanks for playing, Cole; the volunteer warrior is proud to serve for those who can't, and even those who won't. And the little ones chewed on the bones, oh, bones, oh, bones, oh. And the little ones chewed on the bones.
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PeterUK

"I see two veterans who both are calling the lot of you chickenhawks. I see all of you squirm in shame. "

I see a bunch of callow kids pretending to be ex-military,that is the real shame.You belittle those who served and are serving with your infantile game of toy soldiers.

Grow up or you will turn into John F Kerry.

royf

truthyness 

John mccain said he would stay in Iraq for maybr one hundred years AFTER we are no longer taking casualties,when will that be?How long will that take?He used germany and japan as examples of american longterm presents (presence),Were there civil wars in either of those countries after the wars were won?

You talk about WWII of course you realize there were approximately 40 million people killed, over 400,000 Americans. Germany and Japan were bombed into submission their industry and infastructure totally destroyed. Their armies and navys were defeated completely, there was no quarter given.

  Iraq's military melted back into the population, Some were following a plan to fight a guerilla war, Terrorists some already in Iraq and many which came after the defeat of Iraq's military tried very hard to create a "civil war" killing many Iraqi civilians and Coalition troops. However "The Surge" and a huge backlash from the Iraqi's stopped their bloodthirsty efforts. There is no civil war and the Iraqi's have made it clear they will fight for their country against both the terrorists and Iran.

If the Iraqi's want our help in securing their freedoms I'm all for it, I supported the Iraq invasion from the beginning and I support it now. Because I believe the only way to defeat islamic fascism and their terrorist tactics is through the establishment of governments which are accountable to their citizens. Plus in case you haven't noticed Iran who has been pursueing a proxy war with the USA since 1979 now has US military stationed on two borders. I just don't see the down side to those circumstances.

By the way I joined the USMC in 1965 and served until 1969, I'm too old to be accepted now. But I would be proud to join and help today if I could.

 

PeterUK

"He used germany and japan as examples of american longterm presents (presence),Were there civil wars in either of those countries after the wars were won?"

Anybody who had seen service and is over 30 would know that Germany was partition.Nato and the Warsaw Pact armies faced each other across central Germany.Everyone who has served will know of the Fulda Gap.
Those with a knowledge of history will know about the Berlin Airlift,Check Point Charlie and the enormous tensions there were.
They will also remember the crushing of Hungary and the brief "Prague Spring".
The Phony Fusiliers trolling here apparently don't.

royf

The Phony Fusiliers trolling here apparently don't.

 

Hey history started at dawn this morning for these clowns.
 

PeterUK

Dawn? Isn't that too early to cash their welfare cheques? They don't hit the streets to meet their dealers until the evening.

truthynesslover

Lets just take your comparison of a world class industrial power like germany to a patheticly depressed little country like iraq?O.k. and your point is?Who did Iraq attack again?Oh yeah saddam ataacked us on 9/11 isnt that right?Iraqs military "melted "back into the population??Oh you mean the military that paul bremmer told would no longer ever have a job in Iraq?? you mean that army??And Im sorry but after the war of ww2 wasnt germany partitioned into 3 parts with the russians getting one ?how is that civil war again??Iraq has no civl war?O.k.then why are we still there evrything is so peachy"mission accomplished".There has been NO petitioning of neighborhoods with millions of huge cement blocks to seperatethe sunni from shia and check points between to keep them seperate I guess.And it wasnt the surge that worked it was the truce called by el sadr and if he calls it off tomorrow all hell will break loose.The Iraqies will fight againt IRAN??You better tell that to maliki because he is BFF with IRAN, visiting there last week and recieveing the iranian president with great fanfair!They are affiliated with Iran. the iraqy army was trained in IRAN{the shia part}When we invaded Iraq we basically gave Iran a huge gift!And how do you defeat ISLAMIC FASCISM by over throwing the MOST secular govt in the region{saddam}??Thanks for the food stamps by the way...

truthynesslover

Im sorry peterU.K. but countries that were partitionrd and that population was then under the comtrol of russia how was that a civli war again??do you think those germans were thrilled to be under russian control?the fact russia used them against other allies and controlled the population is just a little different dont you think??Or do you think??

truthynesslover

p.s.presents was a joke,guess you missed it!

RW

I challenge the brave rubes of the wingnut-o-sphere to do the same or shut the f. up. Pussies, all of you.

Did you do some pushups or some curls to pump up before taking the brave step in that instance of TYPING something on the internet? If your intent was to relegate yourself to "ingorable" status, you've succeeded.

Cecil Turner

I challenge the brave rubes of the wingnut-o-sphere to do the same or shut the f. up.

Can we get a reciprocal agreement from all the lefties who never served? If so, I suspect it'd be worth it. But no, that's different, isn't it?

bgates

What the internet needs is some way of connecting political partisans with opposing views in their own neighborhoods.

"beatup.org" is taken. "charlesgiacomettihasstrangehangupsaboutvaginasandcheetos.com" is to hard to remember. Any other ideas?

royf

 truthyness

Who did Iraq attack again

Kuwait and Iran, he also was paying 25,000 dollars to families of Palestinian suicide bombers. I'm sure it's only coincidental that suicide bombings in Israel have basically stopped since Saddam is gone. He was also shooting at US and UK aircraft patrolling the UN mandated "No Fly Zones". Oh and those zones were there to keep the "secular" Saddam from killing more Shia and Kurdish Iraqis.

And it wasn't the surge that worked it was the truce called by el sadr and if he calls it off tomorrow all hell will break loose

Your just ignorant. Al Sadr is getting his ass handed to him by The Iraq Army, The Iraq Army never stopped disarming the Mahdi Army and the Iraqi people have overwhelmingly supported its disbanding.

They are affiliated with Iran

Typical BS you know nothing about the cultures or religions of Iran and Iraq but it doesn't stop you from posting stupid carp.

When we invaded Iraq we basically gave Iran a huge gift

No kidding US troops on two of their borders is a gift? I'll bet you some hard earned dollars that the mullahs don't consider that a gift.

 

Your just a ignorant troll and have nothing to add to any conversation on this website so I'm through with you. I just amuse myself occasionally by stepping on stupid leftist rhetoric 

truthynesslover

WOW,sir I take my hat off to you!YOU are a world class propagandist!Who helped arm BOTH sided to the IRAN -IRAQ WAR again?Which U.S.diplomat told Saddam if he invaded Kuwait the U.S."would have no opinion on the invasion" givin saddam the go-ahaed to invade?And anyone who reads the international papers knows we were not just flying over no-fly zones we were trying to provoke Iraq into shooting down one of our planes by fly into their airspace.The president even concidered painting one of our jets to look like a red cross plane so when it was shot down it would be seen internatioally as an act of aggression but Tony Blaire would not go along!An for the shias of Iraq NOT being affiliated with IRAN I think you need to pick up a book on the subject ,why do you think saddam used his chemical weapons on the shia{the ones we sold him by the way}or check out the pictures in every paper of maliki greeting Ahmadinejad and visa versa.The sad thing is that people like you dont see we have done everything osama bin laden wanted us to do.He said he wanted to destroy us financially {bleed us} and keep us bogged down in the middle east,sort ofwhat we did to the soviets.He learned well from his experience but we fell for it and people like you cheered it on!Thanks! keep up the good work!

kim

'Truthyness' is an apt moniker.
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truthynesslover

Propagana rules again!

truthynesslover

Everything I posted is documented fact!the diplomate who gave saddam the go ahead to invade kuwait was April glaspie.Look it up

royf

'Truthyness' is an apt moniker.

 

Truther would also sum up his intellect. 

James Thompson

Wow. The blogger and the other wingnuts here simply do not have a clue about mideast politics and history. Anyone who thinks Iran is not better off today--and far more powerful than they were in 2003--is a complete fucking idiot. Just ask anyone in the American military establishment.

No wonder you get so mad at dissenting voices. Your little brains have no ability to process facts.

And, yes, as Giacometti and Sear said, you are all fucking cowards for cheering on war while knowing full well you would never put yourself in harm's way.

Shitheads and cowards, all of you.

And, yes, I too am a veteran.

Finally, note well "bgates" is cowardly enough to never serve his country but "brave" enough to offer a vague, anonymous threat over the Internet (beatup.org). Tell you what, bgates, post your real name and address and I'll send an Army recruiter your way. Then I'll suggest Giacometti go punch your fucking lights out when you refuse to sign up.

Fair enough?

sbw

Tell me again, what is the purpose of conversation? Oh, yes... to promote shared wisdom and understanding.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson, for helping to remind me.

royf

No wonder you get so mad at dissenting voices. Your little brains have no ability to process facts.

Your post is fact free what is there to process.

 

Then I'll suggest Giacometti go punch your fucking lights out when you refuse to sign up.

Mad at dissenting voices are you? The only thing I see you offer is a vulgar and foul mouth, now having been in the USMC its not something I haven't heard but on this website the folks are more civilized. Take it back to the Obamanation.

MikeS

Dear Mr. James Thompson,
Could you explain in what way you think Iran has become stronger since 2003?

I understand that since that time Iraq has been surrounded by U.S. military bases. (more than fifty in Iraq and more on their norther boarder in Afghanistan.) So, you couldn't mean militarily stronger.

Two years ago when Iran's proxy Hezbollah started a war with Israel in Lebanon, the Arab countries surprisingly sided with or at least acquiesced to Israel's response. This suggests that Iran has lost support of other countries in the region. So, you couldn't mean that Iran is stronger diplomatically.

In spite of skyrocketing oil prices Iran's economy is stumbling and the population is frustrated. Worse their oil production infrastructure is crumbling. So, you couldn't possibly mean that Iran is stronger economically.

On a more personal note. I gather from your post that many people get angry with you. I would like to suggest that they probably aren't angry about your political positions. More likely they are put off by the vulgar, profane, vitriolic way that you express yourself.

truthynesslover

Yes, I do love the truthyness that got us into this war, saddam and his weapons of mass destruction,the aluminium tubes,saddam attacked us on 9/11,the mushroom clouds!It was masterful and I applaude the neocons{emphisis on CON}for pulling it off!Bravo!!I cant wait for the next act:IRAN!!To be losing two wars simultaneously{can we all have a cheer for the eradication of the taliban in afganistan??anyone??}and to go into anouther country{oil producing} and all without a big enough army its sheer genious.How can we all bring together the disperate factions of Islam at long last??And against us?AND oil prices will climb even more?Its a win-win!!!Buy your stock today!!

truthynesslover

dear mike,who controls lebanon now?And since maliki and ahkmahdeenogahd are such good buddies and allies , when you combine the oil in iraq and iran and what its importance to the economies of the world, who do you think is going to have the last laugh here??Especially when you have russia and china ready to screw us over oil.Cant you just see it Russia ,china together with the oil producing nations against us?Now that would be bigtime blowback.Oh dont forget our good friend Venuzuela.Im sure after all weve done for them they wont forget us!

James Thompson

MikeS makes up a series of facts and pretends they are real. I am sure the voices in his head agree, though.

You gather from my post that people get angry with me? That must come from another voice in your head. I get along great with people. I simply do not suffer cowards and fools gladly.

As to royf, what a bizarre and pointless reply. There is no "dissent" from the clowns here. There is cowardice, nothing more and nothing less, your anonymous claim to having been in the Marines notwithstanding. Sorry, princess, but I am not buying it. The closest you have been to the military is a GI Joe doll

So here's the proposal again, very simply put. Give me your real names and addresses, and I will send an army recruiter your way. If you're not willing to do that, I am done with you. Put up or shut up.

kim

It's downright remarkable how easy it is for the rest of you guys to make eightnine look good.
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sbw

Mr. Thompson, I'm sure what you say seems to make sense to you.

In my experience, both pacifists and generals have been appalled by war. They simply disagree on how to achieve lasting peace.

I assure you that giving in to terror and thuggery is not how to develop a peaceful process of problem resolution. If you must spew vitriol, direct it at the United Nations, which has failed miserably, or the American Congress, with its worst approval rating ever, for not recognizing the U.N. misbehavior for what it is.

hit and run

So here's the proposal again, very simply put. Give me your real names and addresses, and I will send an army recruiter your way. If you're not willing to do that, I am done with you.

So here's the counterproposal, very simply put.

Go ahead, be true to your word, and be done with us.

No hard feelings, mmkay?

Sue

Put up or shut up.

Presumptuous much? I don't want to put up and I'll never shut up. Whatcha gonna do now, cupcake?

Jane

LOL Sue

kim

"Put up or shut up" I wonder, does he mutter at the screen, or roar?
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kim

Does he have to buy a new one every few weeks?
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kim

Is his keyboard faintly orange or is it highway cone iridescent?
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kim

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Sue

Mr. Thompson sounds a lot like Scary.

hit and run

Oh, that's so not fair.

He gave us his word -- he won't be back unless we put up.

Don't attack a man of honor in his absence -- a man who demonstrates his honor by honoring the absence he promised when we failed to honor his ultimatum.

Sue

Too bad. "I'm done with you" like we asked him to be undone with us to begin with. Arrogance like that belongs on no quarter.

Soylent Red

Put up or shut up.

Since I've already put up, I guess I don't have to shut up.

So James, on behalf of the military:

You're wrong. And you suck.

I guess I'm not as hardcore military as you James. Didn't manage a single f-bomb in the whole post like your super high speed self.

James Thompson

Wow. So many posts and so many words in response, and none of them agreeing to talk to an army recruiter.

Just admit it. You're all a bunch of cowards.

Must suck to be you, especially "Soylent Red" who claims to be in the military but is so much a coward he won't even post his real name. Because if he did post his real name and address like I asked, he would have to say no to real, live army recruiter. His "bravery" extends to posting anonymously on a website.

kim

No anonymity here, stranger; we mostly all know each other. And you, small idiot, are full of shit.
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James Thompson

Judging from the long list of illogical, illiterate, angry, and, indeed, anonymous, posts from one "kim," I can only conclude that he or she is the most ashamed of her cowardice of all the moronic, anonymous cowards on this list.

There is a cure. You could do something about your cowardice. You could join the military. Post your full name and address, and I will have a recruiter call you first thing in the morning.

Waiting...

Soylent Red

East Lincoln Station, 10OCT06

Not that I have to prove any thing to you, who has never darkened the door of a recruiting station.

How do I know?

Because the Army I joined teaches better manners.

Maybe you're Chair Force.

hit and run

So you lied when you said you would be done with us if we didn't give you our names and addresses?

And here I was defending your honor saying that you meant what you said and would live up to your word.

Now I really am ashamed.

James Thompson

So Soylent Red returns with his fake name and thinks he has proven something? Sorry, princess, but no, you're still a coward.

And another brave anonymous commenter, "hit and run," wastes 50 or so more words than he has to when he could have simply written, "I, hit and run, am a complete coward who would never serve his country."

Cowards, all of you.

Soylent Red

Oh BTW...

I'd like to see your PBED and MOS.

I'll show you mine if you show me yours high speed.

James Thompson

Poor Soylent Red, his cowardice exposed, he digs himself deeper and deeper. You don't even have the balls to use your real name in an Internet forum, and I would expect you to produce documentation?

Sorry, princess, but your cowardice is complete. Go cry to mommy.

Soylent Red

Can't do it huh? Just like I thought--a fraud.

What a sad little man you are.

James Thompson

Soylent Red, exposed as a fraud--and a not very bright one at that--lashes out.

I would too if I were you. Claim to be a veteran, and you're not. Can't even post under your real name when challenged to do it over and over and over and over again.

This is simple, folks, it really is. You're all fired up for the Iraq war? You think it is just and true? Sign up. Go fight in it.

Nothing is stopping you.

Nothing except your cowardice, that is.

hit and run

"James Thompson" is just as bravely anonymous as hit and run. No more, no less.

James Thompson

Nice try, hit and run, but it's my real name, hometown, Norwich, NY. Go nuts Googling for more information so you can stalk me, you punk.

But, thanks, "hit and run" for pointing out how easy it is to post anonymously. What home town should I tell the recruiter you're from, "hit and run"?

Oh, right, never mind. You would never serve your country in a million years.

James Thompson

Shut up hit.

I'm the real James Thompson

Soylent Red

Nah hit...

James never served. I can tell because he won't post the information I asked.

Talk about anonymous.

James Thompson

No you shut up James.

I'm the real James Thompson. From Norwich, NY even.

James Thompson

James:

Obviously I'm the real James.

So fuck you pussy.

See? How authentic was that?

Sincerely,

James

James Thompson

I will kick all of you asses for using my name

Charles Giacometti

Hey James...

What say you and I go down to the VFW and reminisce about how we was in the shit together.

James Thompson

Sounds like a plan Charles.

Maybe after we could go down to the gym and pump each other.

bgates

James, you're just the kind of person I think could get a lot out of beatup.org. Wouldn't you like to find rabid partisans in your own area and scream insults at them face to face? Sure, you could advertise your location by publishing your physical or even email address here, which you have chosen not to do, but that seems like it could get you a lot of junk mail, subscriptions to US Weekly or The Nation, crap like that.

It doesn't seem fair, really. There are any number of services to match up people who have love to give, but people like yourself who could give so much hate are denied the opportunity to express your feelings in person. What I would like to see is a site where you could enter your name, location and preferences:
Charles Giacometti
??
I hate Cheetos and anybody who eats them, especially chickennut winghawks
(or whatever)
-and get matched up with someone compatible who's local for a duel, or a throw down, or the like.

Sadly, there's no option like that available, so you'll just have to go on angrily typing at people who laugh at you.

Good night, and remember, you can't spell "Rethuglican" without "hug".

PS I'll have you know I served as long as FDR, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama (and Michelle!) - put together.

John Kerry

I'll have all of you know that I not only served honorably, but that I personally transported Mr. Thompson and Mr. Giacometti upstream in Cambodia.

Their service is seared-seared-into my memory.

James Thompson

So many words, so many retarded attempts at "humor" and the plain truth remains the same--cowards all of you.

Rick Ballard

The record will show that I still do not consider Obama to be a coward because he has never served. He's no more a coward than he is a bastard (according to shariah).

I don't know why in the world these people keep denigrating him over these niggling details.

Barack Obama

Hey guys! What are we talking about? Serving?

Hey that reminds me of my favorite movie, "You Got Served". That was some funny shiznit.

Oh...Hope and Change.

kim

Hey Soylent, some of those chair force sit in OM's doing AC&W. Ask your combat buddies where their antennae are and how they're defended.
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Michelle Obama

Barack!

Who told you you could be on the computer at this hour?

In fact, I don't even remember telling you you could speak!

kim

Besides, Norman Scwartz is gonna fix it so they help you out a little more.
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Soylent Red

Awww kim...just joshing Super Soldier James.

Got nothing but love for my Air Force brethren. You should know that.

BTW, I'm equal opportunity because I rag Navy and Marines just as much.

kim

You boys evidently don't know that one of the chief amusements in VFW's is blowing up the war stories of the newbies.

As I've repeatedly said, it has been definitively shown that the only people who use the chickenhawk argument are chickens. Warriors are above it, because it demeans their own service for those who can't, even won't, serve. That you have repeatedly failed to acknowledge, let alone refute, this argument, leads me to believe you don't have enough reading comprehension to be accepted by the military. That might explain your need to be so ferocious with the uncomplaining keyboard, and so obstreperous at the helpless screen.

You call this a life, raging impotently into the void?
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kim

Sure Soylent, just hinting at my bona fides for those with sense to recognize them. I recently told a retired Marine colonel about one of mine doing AC&W and he said 'Yeah, and sleeping in clean sheets every night' and I replied, 'We certainly hope so'.
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kim

Doggies, and jarheads, flyboys and swabbies,
Love of their country is one of their hobbies.
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Soylent Red

Figured as much kim. One team, one fight.

But I bet you can do a whizbang Powerpoint presentation...

kim

Moi, no way; remember, I'm a chickenhawk according to these clowns.
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kim

William Kristol has commented on this ad but its behind the paywall.
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Sue

LOL. This is the funniest thread evah! I'd lay odds that Mr. Thompson is Scary. Ran into a real soldier in our Soylent and pissed his pants.

Sue

Kim,

Any news on the news coming on the 26th.

Cecil Turner

Oh, right, never mind. You would never serve your country in a million years.

[chortle] Right. As if the peacenik leftist fellow travelers actually constituted the majority of serving servicemembers. Here are some useful visuals.

Actual servicemembers tend to be a bit more conservative, a bit more supportive of national defense, and have a lot less patience with anti-Americanism . . . just as one would expect. Not that there aren't plenty of liberals serving too--and I absolutely support their right to free expression, along with their like-minded supporters--but the idea that they represent a consensus of their fellows is simply not on.

kim

No more that I've heard. I hope I haven't overhyped it; either way, it's probably going to be ignored by MSM. They are all full of James Hansen threatening Congressmen and energy executives.
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clarice

Well, if Soylent is funning us, I want to know who got the brownies I sent to the military base under his name.

Sue

Clarice,

Yes. But how do we know you are who you say you are? All kinds of possibilities here. One of which Mr. Thompson is an ass and we shouldn't have so much fun without liquor being involved.

Soylent Red

Speaking of brownies...

Soylent Red

By the way Cecil...

Did you notice on your link the photo of the free newspaper being handed out? Entitled "Revolution", its lead story is:

"The Barack Obama Campaign: Should People Feel Good About This Country?"

Wonder how a guy could get his hands on that issue...without raiding the bird cage. Or endangering a security clearance.

clarice

soylent..it's online:
http://revcom.us/

glasater

After looking--quickly--at the site, Clarice--I'm seriously frightened.

Sue

http://www.zombietime.com/marines_protest_berkeley_6-21-08/>Frightening? Check out these costumes and then talk to me about frightening.

glasater

Well--those pictures were even worse!! My stomach is just turning over.

kim

Is Orange the Mark of Soros?
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Sue

I would like to know how you get to the point in life that you are willing to put on a pink pointy hat, with fake fur, and leave the house?

MikeS

Wow. I went to dinner and missed all the tit for tat last night.

All I can say is, "That's not the James Thompson I knew!"

Barry
put on a pink pointy hat, with fake fur

Pepto Bismol babes.

James Thompson

I did not run away from that pussy Soylent Red.

James Thompson

I'm the real James Thompson and I did.

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