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June 05, 2008

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Neo

"This isn't the Tony Rezko I knew." Deja vu, anyone? I could swear I've heard it somewhere before.

"This isn't the Rev. Wright I knew."
"This isn't the William Ayers I knew."
"This isn't the Bernardine Dohrn I knew."

Neo

And you may find yourself in a beautiful house,
with a beautiful Wife
And you may ask yourself-well...
how did I get here?
..
And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right? ...am I wrong?
And you may tell yourself
My god!...what have I done?

Danube of Thought

Bob Novak quotes an unidentified, long-time Democratic politico as saying, "I'll sleep better if John McCain is president." No kidding.

Rick Ballard

Was BHO unconscious when he recommended passage of the bill making Rezko's fraud easier to perpetrate?

"A review of senate records shows Obama played a major role in pushing through Senate Bill 1332, that led to the "Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act," which reduced the number of members on the Board from 15 to 9, making the votes much easier to rig."

Will he make a stab at "That isn't the bill I knew."?

MayBee

The Rezko Obama knew introduced him to people like Auchi, helped him get a job, raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for him, and bought him part of his house.
That's not anything like this Rezko.

Sue

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/20LA40LBG26FB/>Wish list for wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. Come on JOMers, let's get busy!

Paul Zrimsek

In fact, the Rezko who's going to jail is a distraction from the Rezko Obama knew.

hit and run

Anyone else see this?

From instapundit:

IT'S A QUAGMIRE: U.S. out of D.C. now!


Read the whole thug.

We MUST ACT NOW!!!!

Question is...do we:

1) Organize and mobilize a strike force to extract Clarice from the warzone and bring her to safety?

2) Hold a peace rally and concert and smoke dope and drink beer and make really cool signs in protest?


Follow up question:

Who's going to bring the magic markers and posterboard?


Sue

I don't smoke dope, but I do drink beer. Will that disqualify me from attending?

kim

Barack Obama has been convicted by his words of shining a spotlight on his own need for ethical reform. I encourage this young politician to take whatever steps are necessary to prevent these kinds of abuses in the future.
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JB

"Will he make a stab at "That isn't the bill I knew."?"

He'll probably blame the staff for omitting a '1' before '9'. In reality he was increasing board membership.

kim

After the money's gone
He may well ask himself
"Same as it ever was?
Same as it ever was?"
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Danube of Thought

Let's hope Clarice can make it to the Green Zone.

Jane

I want every single elected official to be subject to the same rules, laws, conditions as the rest of the country.

What started me thinking was Ted Kennedy's ability to get medical care at Duke when he would be at Cape Cod Hospital under Obama's plan. I want each congressperson paying the same gas prices out of their pocket. I want Congress saddled with AA. I want each one of them to have to deal with all the laws they make. No exceptions.

I don't have a clue how to get started, anyone have any ideas?

GMax

In this case perhaps cursing the darkness is a better path for the chosen one.

JB

"Barack Obama has been convicted by his words of shining a spotlight on his own need for ethical reform."

You're laughing, but I bet we're a month away from "this isn't the Barack Obama I knew." Kafkaesque.

GMax

Jane start with putting them on Social Security as their only retirment plan. It will get fixed damn quick then.

MarkO

When questioned about his lack of experience, doesn’t Canute Obama claim to have profound judgment? Did he just stumble on that judgment yesterday? He apparently has been uniformly unable to exercise any judgment regarding his closest friends, including this most recent unfortunate felon.

He’s either a dopy politician or a serial liar.

glasater

Thomas Sowell has a pretty dour look at our choices for president--but comes to the right conclusion.

cathyf
Who's going to bring the magic markers and posterboard?
Don't forget the giant paper mache heads!
Jane

Jane start with putting them on Social Security as their only retirment plan. It will get fixed damn quick then.

Exactly GMax. But we need an initiative and people to get behind it, and someone more literate than I to get it going - like a porkbusters thing.

MayBee

We need someone with a radio program to get this ball rolling.

Jane

I know I know.

Danube of Thought

Jane, one thing the bastards could do is get rid of the reserved congressional parking spaces at Dulles. Every time I drive up to that place and see these empty acres of parking spaces, while the rest of us are driving around in the rain trying to find a spot, my blood boils. Oh, and maybe they could cause cigarettes and liquor to be taxed the same in D.C. as they are in Maryland and Virginia. And of course if you drive into a D.C. liquor store from VA and load up, you'll get arrested when you head back home.

Don't get me started.

And good morning.

Jane

Get started DOT - we need a movement!

bad

Please don't talk smack about the man who controls the oceans. I'll bet he is going to cure cancer and diabetes and we shall all be healed!!!!!!!!

vnjagvet

Don't forget, bad, if Kerry and Edwards had been elected Christopher Reeves would be up and walking today.

hit and run

Sue you don't have to smoke dope. I just can't imagine a proper peace protest without it.

And don't worry, I'll bring the beer.

Cathyf...thank you for volunteering to being the papier mache. Remember to being enough for everyone.

Sue

H&R,

I can smoke my cigarette like it is a joint. Fake but accurate?

JM Hanes

MayBee:

"That's not anything like this Rezko."
I love it when you do that!

Jane:

McCain appears to be embracing a reform agenda, which could be a start if he realy follows through. I think the Cape Cod Hospital angle could make a really powerful soundbyte. Mr. Democratic Health Care himself, saying gov't mandated healthcare for thee but not for me, works on all kinds of levels. Captain Ed, for one, has talked about being in on a blogger conference call with McCain -- assuming McCain is still doing those, Ed might be in a position to pass the idea along if you were to email him the suggestion.

Clarice

I'm okay despite a terrifying ride thru a brutal storm last night. Just tied up with a Costco run to Virginia this morning. (The parts of DC which are unsafe are rather small pockets compared to the parts that are very attractive and nice and safe.)

Jane

JM Hanes,

Don Surber blogged about that today AFTER I brought it up here. But I want something a lot bigger. I believe congress is not subject to insider trading rules. Justify that one.

Clarice

DOT, before I stopped smoking I used to buy my cigarettes in Va because the taxes on them are less than they are in D.C. (In Md they are higher.) Of course with all three states being so close it is stupid to have different tax rates --you are only nabbing the poorest and most infirm who cannot make it past the local convenience store.
But you are right about liquor.D.C. has very low comparative taxes on liquor. (Buy yours at Calvert Woodley if you want to avoid the Va tax cops.Avoid Eagle just across the bridge from Va.)

Jane

Clarice,

I'm glad you are okay. It sure has been a stormy spring.

Charlie (Colorado)

2) Hold a peace rally and concert and smoke dope and drink beer and make really cool signs in protest?

Sounds like the good old days in Boulder, doesn't it Jane?

The problem I see with the idea of making the Congrefs conform to the same rules we all do is that it would have to be enacted by Congrefs. When I get my time machine built I'll go back and suggest the idea to Madison; I suspect the time machine would be easier than doing it through the legislative process now.

Publius

Jane,

"I don't have a clue how to get started, anyone have any ideas?"

How about defeating them at the ballot box?

JM Hanes

JaneL

"But I want something a lot bigger."

I know you do. That's why I'm thinking in terms of pushing McCain hard on the reform agenda -- and working on the talking points to sell it. Hypocrisy is a big one. When the chips are really down, you'll never see Kennedy letting government pick his surgeon or build windmills in his backyard to save the planet.

Jane

Sounds like the good old days in Boulder, doesn't it Jane?

'72 - I was all over that.

The problem I see with the idea of making the Congrefs conform to the same rules we all do is that it would have to be enacted by Congrefs.

Yeah I thought of that. What we need is some candidates to run on these issues. Of course they will change their minds once they win the seat. But along the way it's not a bad thing to let the public in on what's going on, particularly given Congress ' approval rating.

Danube of Thought

"How about defeating them at the ballot box?"

With whom? Every Goddam one of them does it. As soon as you're elected, they issue you your sense of entitlement at the foot of the capitol steps.

MayBee

In fact, the Rezko who's going to jail is a distraction from the Rezko Obama knew.

A jailed Rezko does not help Michelle Obama's kids.

MikeS

If Obama did not have any criminal intent when he supported the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act, isn't that a perfect example of the kind of mistake that can result from naiveté and a lack of experience?

Porchlight

With apologies to Brian Wilson:


We met when I was younger
And he helped me buy my pad
A few years went by and I saw him,
Fitz was looking really mad

(Look out, Tony.)

(chorus)
He's not the Rezko I once knew
(He's not the Rezko I once)
He's not the Rezko I once knew
(He's not the Rezko I once)

How could I ever have known that
He'd be what he is today?
An' look at how I easily fooled them
I'll be movin' in one day.

(White House, man.)

(chorus)
He's not the Rezko I once knew
(He's not the Rezko I once)
He's not the Rezko I once knew
(He's not the Rezko I once)

(Bow, bow, bow) Laa-do-day,
(Bow, bow, bow) Laa-do-day,
(Bow, bow, bow) Laa-do-day,
(Bow, bow, bow),
(chorus)

He's not the Rezko I once knew.....

kim

Into the blue again, Charlie.
You've got a polity to save.
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kim

Mixed emotions: No not the Cadillac one, but vehicular somesortacide is involved. Fitz, the bloodhound with a nose for red herrings, on the trail of the most dangerous man in the world.
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kim

Was all that Libby posturing just to save face when he figured out that the last most dangerous man in the world belonged to the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Joe Wilson Straight?
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kim

Under the rocks and stones.
Where does that highway go?
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glasater

"most dangerous man in the world"

Some speculation on Fox last night on why Rezko "wanted" to go to jail right away.

Was he afraid of something--was the implication.

kim

Probably easier inside the joint to arrange a secret meeting with the Feds. In fact, I know someone who knows the five people who were at the meeting. Scary could be introduced if he'd pipe a mirrored lupin aboard.
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Syl

You know, there is a muddle in the middle. And mayhaps the middle will win this election for McCain (if we allow McCain to be McCain). Lately I've been spending most of my time on climate blogs reading and reading and getting to know the arguments, the science, such as it is, and the players.

but I've also spent time reading here, of course, though not taking much time to comment. I've also followed some of the threads at TalkLeft because I find some of the comments concerning Obama indistinguishable in tenor, tone, humor, and sentiment from some found here.

It's really weird.

Just to show that the Hillary voter issue was not all about feminism...

Here's something that was making the rounds concerning the subject in this thread:

Obama's response to the Rezko verdicts:

I would like to apologize for my past associations, which also include my white grandmother, and pastor, and visiting pastor, and chief fund raiser, and wife, and anybody else in the future who may come out of the woodwork who will reflect badly on me and whom I will have to disavow.

They do not reflect my values. They do not reflect my beliefs. They are not what my campaign is all about. I stress hope and change as the model of the message I am attempting to convey.

I never knew what Rev. Wright said in his sermons. I was busy directing the cars in the parking lot when he said those things. Some Sundays I just slept in.

Rev. Pfleger deceived me and I am sorry I ever contributed or passed legislation on his behalf in the amount of thousands of dollars. He told me he was only an amateur comic and impersonator and had I known he was going national I would have distanced myself long before. Sorry.

Even though our association goes back some 17 years and we spoke daily during my various campaigns, I hardly knew Tony Rezko. Simply because we vacationed together we always had separate rooms.

I always knew Michele to be soft and sweet and deferential to me. However, I can only say that this militant side of her is something I never noticed before. She will remain in Chicago when I take up residence in the WH.

Syl

In case you missed the import, the above was written by a Democrat.

Clarice

Thank you, Jane.

Elliott

Very nice, Porchlight.

kim

Syl, I asked a couple of days ago for a comment from any Democrat who has noticed that half of all Democrats now understand that Joe Wilson is, was, and always will be a liar. So far, no response.
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Publius

Danube of Thought,

"How about defeating them at the ballot box?"

Of course you are right. My idealism got ahead of my common sense for a brief moment.
It won't happen again. :)

Porchlight

Thanks, Elliott. I had to leave the "la-do-day"s in there as is b/c that's my favorite part of the song.

Syl

Kim

Yeah, Wilson still plays into Bush hate and that's not easily changed. But it still doesn't necessarily translate to McCain.

kim

I think that little tete a tete entre Lieberman and Obama may be critical. Was Obama bullying or begging? I think Joe will swing the election whether he's Veep candidate or not.
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JM Hanes

kim:

Alas, the tete a tete seems to have been disappeared almost as fast as it appeared, which is a little strange. Considering the buzz in the blogosphere yesterday, I'd have thought it would have managed more than an hour or two on ABC's "most viewed" roster -- which is where links from multiple sources landed me, even though the URL included what appeared to be a specific ID number for the video.

bad

From The San Francisco Chronical via NRO's Jonah Goldberg:

Even Bill Clinton, with all his effortless, winking charm, didn't have what Obama has, which is a sort of powerful luminosity, a unique high-vibration integrity.

I'd like to be smokin' soma dat...

kim

Yeah, JM, mebbe it was a little too illuminating about some of that high vibration integrity.
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