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June 01, 2008

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JM Hanes

narciso:

That Obama braintrust is every bit as depressing as the remontant Brzezinski.

ben

New statement by that fellow in Iran Obama wants to "meet without pre-conditions" ....

"I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene," he said.

"Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started."

A good McCain ad would be a voice over of this statememt and then Obama's offer in his own words.

larwyn

To Porchlight, MayBee, Kim, Sara
I'm so happy that I dropped by and picked up your comments on and the links to the transcripts of both the 2004 interview and that silly Q&A after the big "resignation speech".

I've included all of the above in one of the collections sent out tonight. Earlier today, I sent the link and your comments to bloggers who I know also work within religious communties. The Anchoress writes for Catholic papers and contributes to Catholic Websites. David Jeffers, father of Eddie, a casualty of the GWOT, is another who is going over the transcripts.

Doing everything I can think of to get these out into religious communities, Christian and Judea with the hope that pastors of real Christian churches and Rabbis of Synagoges will have the courage to bring them to the attention of their members.

It isn't just the NOT CHRISTIAN BELIEFS which OBAMA expressed, but also the LIES.

We know from his TRANSCRIPTS & Interviews with classmates & teachers at the school in Indonesia that while it was a school run by the Jesuits, OBAMA was enrolled as a MUSLIM and therefore studied the Koran while Catholic students studied the Catachism. Imagine the Protestant sects were given classes in their bible, just as Catholic schools in my area offer them today.

Again, I thank you. We can't let that person and his buddies anywhere near the WH.

FYI, Lewis has a good one up at AT:
Phony-Ops build the Obama Myth
and so does Thomas
The Clinton-Obama Battle Continues

Again thank you.

larwyn

Went to get the link to Wretchard's MUST READ. Blame CARBUNCLES for all the deaths and depravations of COMMUNISM

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2008/06/furuncle-joseph-stalin.html

Furuncle Joseph Stalin
Karl Marx famously wrote, "It is not men’s consciousness that determines their existence, but on the contrary, their social existence that determines their consciousness." In other words our attitudes are formed by our material condition. Modern medicine has finally proved that Marx was right. We now know that what may have impelled Marx to create his depressing and gloomy ideology was none other than skin disease. The Times Online reported late last year that:

Karl Marx suffered from a skin disease that can cause severe psychological effects such as self-loathing and alienation, according to a British dermatologist. The father of communism’s life and attitudes were shaped by hidradenitis suppurativa, said Sam Shuster in the British Journal of Dermatology. One of its symptoms is alienation – a concept that Marx, a martyr to boils and carbuncles, put into words as he wrote Das Kapital....

RIA

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Jane

Good morning guys. (Hello sex shop, zayiflama)

Tis the beginning of the end. Scary Larry failed in his mission. The media has chosen the candidate of their dreams.

It's gonna get ugly.

Tina

Didn't see it myself, but just read on Free Republic that Bob Beckle said on FNF this morning that the big Michelle bomb will be dropped tomorrow; Bob said there will be no recovery and this will make Hillary the nominee.

Terry

Bobby also said the Republican's were behind it. Riiiiight, Bob.

Jim Miller

Porchlight - Yes, I loved that quote, too.

What fascinates me most about the interview is that he comes off as a wishy-washy Unitarian -- but still refers the reporter to his book, where, if the reports I have seen are correct, he is a little more open about the black liberation theology at Trinity.

Rick Ballard

Hot Air has a nice montage of Obama's close associates. I think that footage of Michelle clapping herself silly during a Calypso Louie hate whitey spiel would just be icing.

H & R does another good job of connecting the dots.

Danube of Thought

Beckel is a pretty serious guy. If he did say that, it's quite interesting. How are the Republicans "behind it?" Did they drug Michelle and make her go on a rant?

I just went to Google images to check out Vanessa Chase. Not a pretty sight, folks.

Mornin', Jane. You'll note the clock is just striking 0600 out here on the Coast.

Danube of Thought

Here's the item from Free Republic:

"Were you watching [Fox News] at 6:25 when Democratic strategist Bob Beckel dropped a bomb on us? He said he’d heard through his political pipeline that a big shoe was about to drop on the Obama campaign. It has something to do with Michelle Obama. Beckel wouldn’t say anything more other than this explosive story may happen tomorrow."

Sue

Bob Beckle said on FNF this morning that the big Michelle bomb will be dropped tomorrow;

I thought I watched all of Bob Beckel this morning and I didn't hear him say that. I can't believe I missed it.

Sue

Why tomorrow? Wouldn't today be the better day to drop it? Or even yesterday? It must not be as damaging, and I still don't know if I am buying there is a tape, as claimed.

Bill in AZ

Why tomorrow? Scary Larry is still making it down in the same basement closet where the TANG memos and the fake Niger documents came from. He decided at the last minute he better re-do the tape with a 70's era videocam so neocons don't catch on so fast this time.

Sue

http://greenroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/beckels-obama-bombshell/>Beckel’s Obama Bombshell

by Alisyn Camerota

Were you watching at 6:25 when Democratic strategist Bob Beckel dropped a bomb on us? He said he’d heard through his political pipeline that a big shoe was about to drop on the Obama campaign. It has something to do with Michelle Obama. Beckel wouldn’t say anything more other than this explosive story may happen tomorrow. Do you think the GOP has something up its sleeve that could blow up Obama’s campaign? If so, when do you think they’ll unleash it?

Okay, I watched Beckel in the next hour, and he didn't mention it.

Sue

Bill,

I believe Bob, but I don't trust where he is getting the information. I still think it is circular confirmation.

centralcal

I agree that Beckel is a pretty serious guy and if he is willing to go on the air with a shoe bomb story, there must be something behind it.

That said, however, I am still skeptical about it existing as well as the damage it will do if it does exist. I think the Dems have gone too far with the Obama parade to turn back now, no matter what is revealed.

Bill in AZ

Now pay attention if the tape comes out. If MO has blue eyes (kinda like Val's), and Rev Wright sorta looks like Joe Wilson (he did cut his hair recently), then we'll have a pretty good idea where this tape came from.

Jane

Hi DOt,

6:00 is a perfect time to rise. However I am on a campaign to force myself back to sleep when I awake like a shot at 5:00. Funny, two hours later I awake tired, not full of adrenalin. This "getting older" thing is fascinating.

My guess is that at this point any bombshell won't be that big of a bombshell what with all this wishful thinking going on over the last few days.

clarice

If it's true, what's the big deal? You know the O drill, it if offends, it's gone..

Danube of Thought

I'm with CCal, Jane and Clarice. Most likely is that there's nothing there at all; if there is, it won't be that bad, and will blow over quickly.

Remember when there was some sort of affair that was going to end the Kerry campaign?

kim

Have Rev. Wright and Joe Wilson ever been seen together?
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kim

This boy(oops) has a guilty conscience. He goes out of his way four years ago to point out the Catholic School in Indonesia, and that his mother transmitted Christian values to him.

This is the form of Taqiya if not the fact.

I'm beginning to think he has delusionary grandiosity and religiosity.
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kim

Jane, stay up at five, and siesta post meridional repast.
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clarice

OT: Via Instapundit--Hitchens compares the Feith and McClellan books and the press coverage of them.
http://www.slate.com/id/2192696/

kim

I haven't read Hitchens, yet, but the McClellan book will be famous historically as an example of propaganda, and Feith's as the rare product of an important historical actor who was also a scholar.
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centralcal

While we wait for shoe bombs to drop and the RW to melt, I am struck by the words Obama has used these past few days that to me are pretty damning.

He says there is nothing about his church that needs denouncing.

He says his church is a conventional Christian church.

Those two statements are pretty revealing and scary too. What on earth would be unconventional and worthy of denouncing in Obama's world view?

kim

The contrast in the two books, to thinking people, is going to frame George Walker Bush's legacy.
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kim

Find, centc, a secularist as he is in his heart, who can talk sensibly about theology. The attitudes within are revealed as from a spring; they cannot help bubbling out, polluted or pure, they are manifest.

Now, as the self perceived secular messiah that he is, watch out for the creativity of his theology.
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Danube of Thought

OT: New Field Poll out this morning shows Arnold's approval has dropped from 60% in December to 41% today. I couldn't care less about the man, and wonder why the hell he calls himself a Republican. Put about 120 pounds of blubber on him and you couldn't tell him from Lowell Weicker.

MayBee

JMH- Thanks for the information. Perhaps I would be better off emailing reporters with my questions in the future.
I have a feeling I was never going to get an answer to my question about Barack's knowledge of/sympathy with Pflager's opinions. Yet it bothers me that reporters so often want to skip to what something means politically for a candidate, rather than what it means for the rest of us. I think it's kind of a big deal that Obama's friends and mentors all seem to have the same line of "backward looking" thought.

MayBee

FWIW, I think it is fine if Obama was ever muslim. I think his church of 'white people are bad for you' is much more harmful to this nation right now, because I worry that he may have recently believed that.

kim

Weicker's folks had a really nice Chrysler estate wagon.
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larwyn

What is truly frightening is that we other than BLACK PERSONS knew that the rapper inspired blacks in urban America hated. But here's Time reporter telling us that TU is just like most other Black Churches. Now that is chilling.

Gateway Pundit

TIME Mag Reporter: Trinity UCC Is Typical Black Church (Video)

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/06/time-mag-reporter-trinity-ucc-is.html

Hey would someone please give me the codes so I make the links "live" or don't you want to trust me again.::::laughing:::

P.S. put the Beckel quote on other thread a few mins after he said it.

Danube of Thought

Jim Geraghty:

"UPDATE: Larry Johnson is either crazy, a pathological liar, or he's giving us our first glimpse of a tape that will be devastating to Obama: 'I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks.'

"ANOTHER UPDATE: I now doubt this tape exists, for reasons explained [elsewhere]."

Memo to Jim: Why do you think he's known as Crazy Larry?

Jane

So here is the "whitey" remark. LUN

My You Tube won't load so you tell me.

kim

Bait and switch may be the underlying tactic here just as with Plame. There's a bomb, no there ain't; there's a tape, no there ain't. The perception that the bait is real causes the opponent to misplay, and the truth doesn't matter, the misplay does.

That said, I believe there is a tape. What is the chance there isn't one? More importantly, the perception of what the tape means will be formed before it ever comes out. Remember SusanUnPC, or someone saying that the news wasn't the tape, but rather Larry's description of it? She meant what she said.

Who ya gonna call? Shape shifters.
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ben

I don't know about the specific Michelle tape, but I am willing to bet that there will be other statements, testimonials, tapes etc. that will emerge and further sear, yes sear, in the public's mind the image of a left wing extremist running for President. I think many here are overstating the MSM's ability to neutralize all such evidence. Despite the MSM's strong efforts to run interference there is little doubt Obama's unfavorables have risen considerably and his image as a uniter has suffered. A knock-out punch is not required, Obama could die of a thousand cuts too. I think the book of what will be revealed in the campaign about Obama's background and associations and beliefs is yet to be written.

kim

Jane, I think you got it. Obama is clearly the bartender, but I never get a good enough look to see if the dancer is Val.
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Porchlight

LOL Jane. It's a joke video - begins with Michelle opening a speech, then cuts to the super-white Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" video from the '80s. The dancing gal does look a bit like Val...

I laughed, I admit it.

Jane

Sheesh the joke is on me.

And it's a good one!

kim

Never mind, there is a good look at 3:13, and she is not Val.
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kim

After one of his flips, the bartender strikes a pose just like Obama's halo picture, looking up and to the left, vacantly.
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ben

The problem with Beckel is that his theory, advocated ad nauseaum on Fox, is that the Democrats could run the ghost of Timothy McVeigh for President and still win because of the "historical factors" such as Bush fatigue, Iraq, the economy, etc. His point is that is doesn't matter how dishonest Hillary is our or how radical Obama is, its the "political climate" that decides. So he will be between a rock and a hard place coming up with something that will "drop the shoe on Obama" since he believes no shoe would be big enough to squash him.

Bill in AZ

Why do you think he's known as Crazy Larry?
That's "Scary Larry" because he used to threaten us with "I know people who do things". Scary people who do scary things - we think...

kim

When Scary was scary he wasn't scary, but now that he isn't scary anymore, he's scary.
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sbw

centralcal, Obama's sentence that bothers me is ,"[I]t was going to be very difficult to continue our membership [in the Trinity United Methodist Church so long as I was running for President."

When John Kerry tried to twist his history it was called "nuance." When Bill Clinton said "it depends on what the meaning of is is", it was called parsing language. When Obama qualifies leaving his church "so long as I was running for President", the Internet rightfully labels such weasel words "Obama-fuscation."

Obama certainly knows what his friends thought and still chose to associate with them. Anyone with reasonable judgment hearing such remarks of hatred and resentment would have turned around on his heel years ago. He can't say he didn't know. Perhaps he didn't care. He certainly didn't react. His was an absent mind.

Topsecretk9

I agree that Beckel is a pretty serious guy and if he is willing to go on the air with a shoe bomb story, there must be something behind it.

Larry has created enough people "talking" that now a pundit can with a straight face say people have told him a tape exist and they people who told him can claim someone else told them if not true - and so on and so on.

I think Kim said as much upthread too.

Jane

People don't trust Obama - which is a competing interest to wanting change. I hear it day after day from committed democrats who are not involved in any campaign. Most are not sure they can take the leap to Obama particularly when they don't find McCain all that offensive.

Topsecretk9

Sue

Are you saying you listened 2ce and did not hear it?

ben

So Scary Larry has cried wolf a few too many times, but even the blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile....I love the smell of clichés and mixed metaphors in the morning.

Jim

If there's a tape, Hillary's bowing out now before the tape drops creates plausible deniability about her being tape source.

Then, she un-bows out.

Topsecretk9

Jim

I could be wrong but I just don't think the Obama loving press is going to give her a pass no matter what.

clarice

Jim, she is denying the AP report that she's dropping out today.

Sue

Top,

No. I was watching Beckel during the 7 o'clock hour (central time). According to Allyson Camarato, he made those remarks at 6:25. I assume she means Eastern time. I did not hear Beckel say anything about Michelle Obama. I am not saying he didn't say it.

Topsecretk9

Josh Marshal on Bill's erruption on reporter

They had all these people standing up in this church cheering, calling Hillary a white racist, and he didn't do anything about it. The first day he said 'Ah, ah, ah well.' Because that's what they do-- he gets other people to slime her. So then they saw the movie they thought this is a great ad for John McCain-- maybe I better quit the church. It's all politics.

Like so many things I've seen from Bill this cycle, I think I just pass the punch of this passage on without comment.

But there's one subnugget of this nugget that grabbed my attention. I think the most revealing thing about this quote is that Bill refers to the youtube viral video of Rev. Pfleger as "the movie." In a sense, of course, this is just a triviality of word choice; he's a little out of touch with the lingo. But for me -- maybe just the personal prism through which I see the drama -- it communicates the larger truth: that Bill is a man out of his time, out of his element, which is something painful to watch and must be a unique agony for him to experience.

I see a guy whose is involved in a campaign working up a lot of "movies" of the opponent.

Jim

Just wheel Bill in to say, "This is ridiculous. Senator Clinton is no longer in the race, this tape comes out and you people start pointing fingers at her. Dog won't hunt/Ought to be ashamed of yourselves/etc."

Topsecretk9

Thanks Sue.

clarice

I rarely pay attention to Beckel who is more often wrong than right, but he has been a big Obama backer and has consistently opposed Hillary's nomination if that helps in deciphering his reported remarks on the tape.

Sue

I can't wait to see what Rush has to say. Our local radio personality only got into it after a caller called in and he had his people look to see if Beckel actually said it. He played the tape of Beckel saying he hears rumors all the time. That he dismisses. But enough of his contacts have said enough that he thinks it is true.

Sue

Hot Air has the video of Beckel.

RichatUF

Sue's "Big Hsu to Drop" link via Hot Air. Odd that the greenroom blog at fox has pulled the Camarota(?) link-I got a 404 error.

Sue

Ooops...thanks Rich.

Jane

Bill clearly has "pump-head". (remember our Sunday AM conversation about that a few weeks back? I actually did post the cardiologists explanation after the thread died.) That explains all the anger and personality change. He's always been a sociopath. He's just a more blatant one now.

Jane

BTW the Rezko verdict is expected today.

Enlightened

Something is out there - it will be interesting to see what it actually is. If it were me and I knew I had never said anything resembling what might be on the alleged tape, I would already be out there on MSNBC saying bring it on, it's not me, etc. etc. But curiously, we have the candidate declaring the wife is off limits, the wife, who has previously been quite vocal, is virtually under the radar, Drudge is reporting Hill will be out by tomorrow and now Beckel says tomorrow is the day of reckoning.

Curiouser and Curiouser.

Alas, I think it will backfire. The Obama supporters are supporting a dream, not reality. In their dream state they will simply dismiss the tape as "a distraction" and continue on their merry little way in electing Chance to the presidency. They've already proven that hate-speech is acceptable if uttered in a church, by black or white pandering clergy - so they really will give a shit if MO is screeching about how much she hates whitey.

Sue

Michelle warned yesterday in a speech in Montana that bloggers lie.

Jane

Maybe it's an orchestration by the Obama camp. They know it is going to come out, and they think this is the best timing.

Sue

Apparently, Camarato has removed the thread where Beckel's bombshell is discussed. According to commenters at Hot Air.

Sue

Okay, I've spelled her name every which way but right.

Alisyn Camerota.

RichatUF

Getting the sense that this is was the same game that Scary Larry pulled to get Plame's "name" out in circulation with journalists. I heard it "from other journalists but don't know if it's even true."

Hell if there is a tape have Hillary que it up before a national audience and say that BHO is unelectable. BHO's religious left allies hoisted the jolly roger over the DNC, let the Clinton priates go and strike it down. This campaign season has been all kinds of stupid.

RichatUF

darn it

priates->pirates

Enlightened

Hmmm - AJ seesm to think there is indeed a tape. It is not Louis Farrakhan and MO, rather Mrs. Farrakhan and MO.

Now how would someone have gotten a video of these two women having a Blame Whitey tete a tete?

Sue

Rush can't find anyone who has seen the tape. I am again back to not believing it.

Topsecretk9

Getting the sense that this is was the same game that Scary Larry pulled to get Plame's "name" out in circulation with journalists. I heard it "from other journalists but don't know if it's even true."

Good point. It's my hope that the Obama loving press go nuclear on them for it and the jig is finally up.

 Ann

Congrats, Larwyn! From Dean Barnett/Weekly Standard:

You probably don’t know this, but you should. There’s this wonderful woman out there named Larwyn who has earned the thanks of conservative bloggers everywhere over the last few years. She sends multiple emails a day to the top 50 or so conservative bloggers highlighting what they need to know. Trust me – you’d be better informed reading her emails each day than if you read the entire New York Times.
Larwyn

Sue

Woohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larwyn, Larwyn, Larwyn, Larwyn!

Sue

Okay, who was it wanting to know how to get a reporter to respond to your question? We now know. Let larwyn ask it for you. ::grin::

Topsecretk9

Sue

The only thing I can think that maybe there is a tape is that Novak column back in November that set the left-o-sphere off a cliff. He said "agents of Hillary" were bragging about a bombshell but decided to hold it. AKA the Clinton's can't plant stories in the press anymore, the press isn't as compliant as they used to be.

Shortly after this was proven when her New Hampshire chair resigned after trying to float the drug dealing meme and play it off as a republican thing

Obama's candor on the subject, on the other hand, would "open the door" to further questions, Shaheen had said. "It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" he said. "There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome."

Also around the same exact time

A day after the Hillary campaign hit the Obama camp for bullying voters in nasty phone calls, the Hillary crew has just acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email that smears Obama as a Muslim by repeating the false claim that he attended a madrassa as a child.

and then of course Matt Drudge busted them for sending around the Muslim garb photo

Porchlight

Yay larwyn! Glad you are on our side! :)

Jane

What I want to know is how Larwyn does it.

Porchlight

A few weeks back when Larry first mentioned the video on No Quarter, a commenter claimed to have seen it and said it was not a big deal. According to this commenter, the video showed Michelle relating a story she'd heard from another woman, and quoting the other woman's use of "whitey."

Anyone else remember this? I will try to find it...

larwyn

Oh lordy! I am blushing!! But really it's almost 130 bloggers whose inboxes I inundate daily with my "collection".

::::laughing::::: As I type as if English is my second language. Can't watch the screen and find the keys at the same time and go in and out caps when I am silently screaming!!!

Have to grab the Barnett post for my children/grandson who wonder what I actually do all day, reading untill I'm almost blind.

Loved having Barnett at Hugh's, lately he's hard for me to find at the multiple bloggers Weekly Standard site.

:::laughing::::and::::blushing::::::

Now will someone please give me the darn codes for making any links I put in here live.

Will understand if you with hold the ones for italics and bold!!

Sue

[a href= url]Title[/a]

Larwyn,

Replace all of the [] with <>

GMax

Congrats Larwyn. Keeping the conservative commentary in line! Seems to me to be a little like herding cats. Giddyup.

RichatUF

larwyn-

Here is an html cheat sheet.

bold is [b][/b]

italics is [i][/i]

blockquote is [blockquote][/blockquote]

replace the [] with < >

MayBee

Larwyn is so cool.

Porchlight

Here's one of those comments at No Quarter I mentioned earlier, FWIW:

Comment by Vince Foster | 2008-05-17 17:38:28

“You’ve seen? Tell us exactly what you saw.”

Yeah, it’s her in church talking about a conversation she had with an older black woman.

And it’s not even Michelle Obama calling anyone “whitey” or using it in any anti-white way. No, she’s quoting back what the older black woman was saying to her — about how she had a run-in with another older white woman.

Believe me, this is incredibly weak stuff.

Here's the cache of the thread - look for the commenter named "Vince Foster" (heh) highlighted in blue and green.

This could be completely worthless of course - I'm just posting it because it's the only thing I've seen from anyone who claims to have actually seen the tape.

Topsecretk9

Anyone else remember this? I will try to find it...

it would also be useful to put together a concise timeline of all Larry's various claims they've changed so many times- his sources and claims have more twists than a pretzel which seems to be his objective - throw out as much as he can so he can claim this and that

GMax

Rich

You gave Larwyn the equivalent of the nuclear codes? Man you like to live dangerously. Take that as snark from a guy who has nuke a thread or two himself!

bgates

sbw - Trinity is not a United Methodist church. You must have been thinking of this.

sbw

Larwyn, when you are doing the href=url part of the link, do be sure to put the url itself in quotation marks.

sbw

bgates, "United Methodist"

Thanks for pointing out my blunder. The fingers dance over the keyboard, but my mind is sometimes out to lunch. Heh!

S/B Trinity United Church of Christ.

larwyn

Coping the codes now - but AP VIA FNC NOW
is announcing IN CAPTION ON SCREEN

AP OBAMA CLINCHES DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION

Tom Bevan of RCP is on shaking his head and now gal from CNBC clarifies that AP wrote
EFFECTIVELY CLINCHES!

On CNN-O! & MSNBC-O! they are not reporting on this but that THE ONE is 30.5 delegates away.

clarice

Woohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larwyn, Larwyn, Larwyn, Larwyn!

larwyn

Just sent this out
Is AP PLAYING GAMES to SUPPRESS HILLARY'S VOTE TODAY - JIMMAAAHH JUST JOINED IN VIA AP!!
Is AP trying to keep Hillary's vote count down. People are VOTING IN MONTANA & DAKOTA right now.

I put this in a JOM comment thread when Margaret (gal who came to FNC from CNBC) made the 2nd AP announcement. The first early this morning was refuted by the CLINTON CAMPAIGN.....
.... but AP VIA FNC NOW
is announcing IN CAPTION ON SCREEN
AP OBAMA CLINCHES DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION

Tom Bevan of RCP is on shaking his head and now gal from CNBC clarifies that AP wrote
EFFECTIVELY CLINCHES!

On CNN-O! & MSNBC-O! they are not reporting on this but that THE ONE is 30.5 delegates away.

Posted by: larwyn | June 03, 2008 at 01:38 PM


FNC continued with the AP MEME while CNN & MSNBC is keeping a count on how many delegate O needs - at 2:45pm it was 28.5, earlier it was 30.5. AT 3PM MSNBCO! has it a t 27.5
Must be this also from AP....

Breaking BIG SURPRISE Jimmy Carter will back OBAMA via AP!! But Carter said, he'll wait to announce it till the votes are counted tonight. THEY ARE PLAYING GAMES!!! That report on FNC at `2:48pm.

I sent response to Jay at STACLU cc Politics Quick List :Jun 3, 2008 2:34 PM......

We may be looking at these AP from wrong POV. Think about it - people are voting in two primaries as I type this - knowing what we know of the AP, WE MIGHT CONSIDER THEIR BREAKING NEWS ITEMS AS ATTEMPT TO SUPPRESS CLINTON VOTERS!!!

What do you think?
Anchoress emailed before receiving that
The saddest part of it all is - in the middle of all this - I'm still getting spam from the non-stop Bushhate machine that can't seem to realize he's not going to be in office much longer.

And I frankly tremble to think what it's going to be like without him. For all his faults, he is the only politician left - besides Hillary - who will not crumble in the face of adversity. Trouble is, Hillary is much scarier than Bush.

http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/06/03/hillary-will-suspend-not-concede/
And just responded to the AP PLAYING GAMES with this:
larwyn...you might be on to something...although teh way the hillary gals are fired up, I think they'll go vote anyway, just to be spiteful.

You know us women...

Charlie (Colorado)

I find it so shocking--almost science-fiction-esque--that, considering the sorry state of our economy, our lack of a viable health-care system, our failing public education system and embarrassing international reputation for fraudulent, oligarchical foreign-policy decisions--that idiots like you are wasting your very limited intellectual resources on these types of discussions.

Then we certainly wouldn't expect you to waste any more time here.

Bye.

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