The Steve Martin movie, "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" employed digital technology to merge scenes from movies produced in the forties and fifties into the plot.
My guess is that the same technique could be used to merge Edward R. Murrow into the Meet the Press format.
Maybe it's just the eyes of this beholder but Greta doesn't seem better than Andrea in the looks department, but then they both look pretty good to this geezer.
Think 7 ate 9 is projecting again or trying too hard to be annoying.
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Maybe it's just the eyes of this beholder but Greta
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Greta's an interesting choice.
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On a whim Greta made the decision to have cosmetic eye surgery when she had a month off during her jump from CNN to Fox Television. In her wildest dreams she could never have imagined the media hullabaloo it caused. With her fabulous “new” look she was being touted as Fox-y Greta.
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Saaaay, we've been sniffing up the wrong whatever for a replacement. If George Stephanopoulos can be recycled by a down and out network news department into a talking head, why can't Scott McClellan be...
Nah... Nevermind. It's too crazy to even think about. Nobody would be that tone deaf. Not even a network news executive. After all, as Eason Jordan knows, the news comes first. Accuracy. Trust. That's why CNN kept the bureau spinning Saddam-approved tales in Baghdad. That's why Aaron Brown was replaced by Anderson "Spinning 360s" Cooper.
SBW beat me to it. Mcclellan is the obvious choice for a network news organization such as NBC. Russert will be missed more than they even know. He was one of the last shreds of credibility remaining.
Greta captured my heart a long time ago. Ran into her in the Philly train station a few months back, and had to gush all over her--did everything but ask for her autograph.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, she's very quick at asking incisive questions on an impromptu basis, without a script.
Six degrees of separation. Everyone is connected in Washington. I didn't know Russert's wife was a Vanity Fair correspondent. Lots of people in the Scooter trial with lots of connections.
Hey, now there's a thought -- I remember before that clarice's demurral for jobs that we suggested her for involved a refusal to put up with the misery of nylons and big-girl shoes. Given the right set, you can wear sneakers and no one will ever know.
(I have a friend who was a summer intern at WGN many moons ago. They had several newscasters who appeared on set in elegantly tailored suits from the waist up, but hidden behind the desk they were in shorts and sneakers.)
Give it to Brokaw, if he wants it. We've seen how Schaeffer has run rings around
Katie Couric's ratings, yet they continue
to carry the loss leader. Similar thing happened at ABC after Jenning's death &
the reporter who was wounded in Iraq by
IED. If they wanted to rebrand they would give it to Ingraham; her last was a tag team on Sunday afternoon, nearly 10 years
ago. But she carries to much baggage, a fmr. clerk for Thomas, an associate at Skadden Arps, exactly at the time, they were covering for Slick Willie. So they'll probably give it to Gregory; who's eerily like the lefty reporter Patrick Graham from the McCarry novels. I must say though, both
part of this thread, and the Protein Wisdom
one, is in extraordinarily bad taste.
Yes we know, Russert probably lied to the grand jury about the nature of his staff's contacts with Libby. That the jury foreman
should have been removed for his iceberg
sized conflict of interests (his Huff Po blogging, his assistantship to Woodward)and the role in steering the jury, toward the
desired outcome. After all, seeing how Pincus, Woodward, et al all performed who's
to say that even Armitage was the only other
source of the leak. The Kay & Duelfer reports suggest WMD stockpiles were higher than what was found after April 2003. Frankly the Deir Ur Zeir reactor points that out. The recent revelations about AQ Khan's efforts suggests a wider level of nuclear proliferation than even what we first thought; certainly what the last NIE
proudly proclaimed. The long buried CIA IG
postmortem on pre September counter AQ operations, suggest that the self
congratulatory words of Scheur, Scroen, Bentsen, re their role in the effort is not to be taken at face value. The voluminous
documentary record in Feith's War & Decision, as well indicates the whisper campaign projected by the likes of Rieff,
Packer, Ricks, Gordon et al;by Franks,
Armitage, & co,not to mention loons like
Kwiatkowski among others don't entirely give a full picture of the pre or even post invasion operations. That was why the Iraqi Perspectives Program was shut down, on a spurious pretext.
We now know that we thought Woodstein
'admitted' was true about Watergate; (that Felt was the only source for Woodward, is probably not true, Pat Gray's son has discovered at least one other 'Deep Throat' candidate, Donald Santarelli, by cross checking Woodward's notes with contempora-neous FBI notes. Most likely, according to James Rosen, John Dean, ordered the Watergate break in; for conflicted reasons.McClellan is now. kind of what Dean was then; but as they say 'he has a smaller dorsal fin' He hasn't gone to jail yet, likely perjury at the House Committee is still an option. But he felt betrayed by a White House, he felt owed him for his loyalty; and was not remunerated afterward. This sense of betrayal cuts sometimes from beyond the grave. Other parties can learn to sense the desperation and seize upon it; like Soros's Perseus cutout managed by James Johnson, (yes that James Johnson) We know thanks to Pincus's reporting,confirmed by Mitrokhin, that Agee was cultivated by the KGB's Cuban DGI handler, General Simonov over dissent on UScounterinsurgency
policy in Latin America; hence his reprinting of Mader's East bloc research as his own.Howard Hunt's recent memoir, seems to take joy at playing conspiracy theory; part of his other job, as spy novelist
implicating people in the Agency, who he might have felt didn't give him support, when he was left 'twisting in the wind' like the patrician former spymaster Cord Meyer,(who was part of Mark Reibling's departed blog speculations on the nature of Deep Throat)After all, after Watergate, he was party to a libel action, arising out
a Liberty Lobby publication implicating him in the Kennedy assasination. And let us say, much like the Libby verdict and Mcfarlane v. Esquire case featuring Craig Unger, it didn't go well
Which brings me back to Bill Clinton. He not only knows all of the players, he has FBI files on them. Imagine the bony finger shaking in someones face as the other hand picks up an "Eyes Only" file. Ratings would soar as people tuned in to see who the latest "scumbag" would be. Furthermore, even money hungry Bubba might work for free just to get that much time in the limelight.
Well neither Foreign Affairs or Maxim are weeklies, monthlies as I recall. Next,
Scarlet Johannson, Kate Walsh, among countless others, considering the evidence, yes, Sue.
Having flubbed the Kelo case, and the whole military tribunal series; not once but three times, I'm afraid they'll come up with a right to arm bears, preferably with MP-5s. I don't have a lot of confidence with
odd man out Kennedy, Souter the hermit, or
Stevens, the reluctant former Navy codebreaker.
Yes we know, Russert probably lied to the grand jury about the nature of his staff's contacts with Libby... After all, seeing how Pincus, Woodward, et al all performed who's to say that even Armitage was the only other source of the leak.
Hmmm... Not sure that Russert was lying about his staff's contact with Libby. I think that the two lies were:
a) about his own contact with Libby; and
b) about his own knowledge about Wilson's wife -- when did he know and how much did he know.
And I think that his motivation to commit perjury is that in order to admit that he knew about Wilson's wife before July 11 he needed to explain who told him, and then the person (people) who told him would have been the target of investigations. Russert was protecting the relationship(s) between his staff (Andrea Mitchell for starters) and whomever told them about Wilson's wife.
As to whether Armitage told Mitchell, somebody else told Mitchell, Armitage told somebody else, somebody else told somebody else -- and all of the possible and/or permutations of those three high-probability events, well, who really knows or cares? That's what "it was widely known" means, after all -- that everybody knew so nobody really remembers who first passed it along. Ultimately, that is the essence of Russert's perjury: that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA was widely known in certain journalist circles before July 11, and Russert lied, under oath, when he assured the jury that it wasn't.
Jane, the reunion was absolutely wonderful. I was quite surprised at how much fun it turned out to be. When you reach geezer stage, you realize that you don't really know anyone in quite the same way you know the people you were teenagers with. Lots of flirting occurred...
I'm guessing Colin Powell told Mitchell. Powell was my original guess for UGO. It would have had to be someone both Mitchell and Russert were willing to protect. I don't think someone lower than Armitage would fit that bill.
I don't have a lot of confidence with odd man out Kennedy, Souter the hermit, or Stevens, the reluctant former Navy codebreaker.
Understandable given this court seems to be all over the place. But I do remember when oral arguments were made that Kennedy was asking questions that made it sound like, to me at least, that he clearly read the 2nd amendment to be an individual right. I think this one will go the right way.
Hope?... Obama Ex-con Supporter & Rezko Buddy Wants More Insurgent Attacks On US Troops
This reeks--
You may want to hose down after reading this filth.
This is scummy Chicago-Rezko-Obama politics at its worst.
Dr Aiham Alsammarae is the former Iraqi Minister of Electricity and Chicago friend of Tony Rezko and a huge Obama fan. (Photo via IDP)
Nibraz Kazimi at the Talisman Gate has this latest awful news for the Obama Campaign.
The Messiah better work a miracle and keep this one out of the mainstream media's hands.
Talsiman Gate reported:
Ayham Alsammarae, Iraq’s slimy ex-Minister of Electricity under the Bremer and Allawi administrations, who had escaped from an Iraqi prison by hiring an American security company to break him out back in December 2006, has resurfaced in the Jordanian capital Amman where he gave a press conference today saying, among other things, that he hoped that the insurgency in Iraq “would continue [against U.S. occupation] and avenges the Iraqi people.”
Alsammarae, an Iraqi-American Chicagoan, added during remarks carried by Radio Sawa (Arabic link) that he had contributed the maximum allowable of $2,300 to Barack Obama’s campaign.
But there’s another Obama link to Alsammarae: while serving as electricity minister Alsammarae had been involved in brokering deals in the Iraqi electricity sector for Antoin Rezko, Obama’s long-term friend and patron. Rezko is the Syrian-American hustler who was convicted of fraud in an Illinois court on the day that Obama secured the Democratic nomination.
And for recent readers, one should probably mention that Vanity Fair is noted for its spread on Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame, who were, at the time, trying to maintain the low profile that befits a secret agent.
Nice to hear that you enjoyed your reunion. My parents are hosting a picnic for my dad's 50th high school reunion (Washburn High, Mpls) this coming weekend. They're excited. I know from my 20th last fall that it is a real joy to connect with folks you didn't initially feel you had much in common with. Way, way more fun than I expected it to be.
Yet in spite of all the accusations of White House "manipulation" -- that it pressured intelligence analysts into connecting Hussein and Al Qaeda and concocted evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- administration critics continually demonstrate an inability to distinguish making claims based on flawed intelligence from knowingly propagating falsehoods.
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committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV got in this familiar shot: "Sadly, the Bush administration led the nation into war under false pretenses."
Yet Rockefeller's highly partisan report does not substantiate its most explosive claims.
Scooter/Cheney/Bush had something to do with that.
Novsk and Woodward learned from Armitage. Mitchell now denies what she once claimed was common knowleged in the news cricle that covers CIA and Miller had Wilson phone number and a variation on Plame's name in her infamous notes before she spoke to Libby.
So basically you are both ignorant and stupid to come to this site and spout nonsense.
Thanks cathy and Jane but it's too much work, and I'm too old and lazy and am afraid of all the necessary plastic surgery and find the hair styling boring.
89 Powell was one of the few guests at Andrea's wedding--she and her husband were very close to Powell. In the middle of the trial the judge said there was something in her notes which might require that he allow the defense to call her and then inexplicably he changed his mind.
I agree that Powell was probably her source.
And I know Russert's testimony wasn't truthful. Fitz apparently never showed him the Eckenrode notes prior to his testimony so he just hardened his tale ; Fitz never called Eckenrode and knew that (a) he'd never willingly talk to the defense and (b) no defense counsel would call him without prior off the record interviewing..
I'd also forgotten about Aaron Brown, I liked him. But, hey, who better to replace Russert's white board than the new king of whiteboard ... ::drumroll:: ... Karl Rove.
Don't forget Kristoff himself said Valerie's position was known a bit in Washington circles.
Andrea Mitchell said again yesterday that they always always called Tim with their tips and tidbits. We'll never hear if David Gregory was told anything by Ari, and if he in turn called Tim.
McCain: Let States Drill Off Shores; Let's Have a Town Hall With La Raza
John McCain just completed a press conference here in Arlington, VA. Not the most chock-full of news appearance the senator has ever made, but one clear headline coming out of it — tomorrow he will call for the lifting of "the federal moratorium on states that choose to permit exploration" off their shores.
The other interesting gauntlet he threw down? He recommended a joint town hall meeting before... the National Council of La Raza.
I watched it earlier today. I found out that Tim is a Springsteen fan, not just of his music, but also his politics. Kind of depressed me. They can claim he wasn't an ideologue all day, I no longer believe it.
Russert wasn't perfect but he was better than a lot. I don't care if he was a A Springsteen fan, I'm one too.. My beef with Russert was his testimony. But given that interview, I have no problem with how he raised his son. If Luke is how we judge, he was a great Dad.
Jane- I agree completely.
And Sue, I'm not certain if Luke said his dad was a fan of Springsteen's politics or of his causes. They are different.
Springsteen's politics were rhetorically ridiculous (I never thought I'd live in a country where habeas corpus had been taken away!), but his causes were more about opportunity for the working man. That's more admirable, I think, and if I recall the interview, Luke specifically mentioned that.
Regardless, I agree that Russert wasn't not an ideologue, but his reporting was fairer than most.
Obama said today on the campaign would be making an announcement as to when, but he said he he wanted to visit both Iraq and Afghanistan before the election in November.
"I told him that I look forward to seeing him in Baghdad," Obama said of his conversation with Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari. "You know, we'll make an announcement about that [as to when], but as I said, I'm interested in visiting Iraq and Afghanistan before the election."
An obvious time to go would be during the week of the Republican convention. However, I wouldn't discount the possibility of an early August trip, with a meeting with Sistani scheduled on Aug. 4, the birthday of both.
eightnine, the WaPo has pointed out that Rockefeller's most recent assertion of the Bush Lied meme is hogwash. Just today, the LATimes says the same thing and talks up Feith's 'War and Decision'.
Historians will get this right, despite all the static from jackasses like you.
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Hey - Congress subpoenaed the FBI interview reports of Bush and Cheney - re Plam-AY. Ya think the FBI has them? They didn't get lost along with Russert's? And right after Russert passes on. Funny how that works.
John McCain was in the navy and then he was in the U.S. Senate. He has never cashed a check a bureaucrat didn't write. I'm not trying to be glib, and I realize he was doing a solemn and dangerous job, killing people from the sky. But it was still government work.
Wait, except for those years as a POW. A sick but undeniable fact about John McCain: The only period in his life when he wasn't living off the American taxpayer, he was living off the Vietnamese taxpayer.
You know it's funny, McCain has to keep telling Obama what to do. He's the head of the committee on Afghanistan and he doesn't know enough to see what goes on there first time.
Boy that Sat nite live skit sure had some truth in it.
Obama is a gentleman by nature? Bullcrap. Gentlemen walk out of hate-filled sermons in 20 seconds - it took this moron 20 years to figure out his hate-filled spirituality wasn't playing well to his peons.
The Apotheosis of Tim Russart continues. Apotheosis refers to the ancient Roman concept whereby an individual becomes a god, usually shortly after dying, and in response to massive emotional outpourings and well orchestrated publicity campaigns. The deified Julius Caesar and Augustus are good examples. Seems to me our 2008 Media is essentially doing the same thing, just without the obligatory temple or animal sacrifice.
The great thing about the ancients however, is that they also had a sense of humor. When Emperor Claudius died, Seneca wrote The Apocolcytosis, a satire wherein the deceased Emperor, instead of being transformed into a god, was instead transformed into a pumkin, or (the text is vague) more likely the pumpkin headed Emperor was transformed into something else. I seem to recall that Robert Graves suggested that Seneca was playfully suggesting that Claudius had been transformed into a giant fart.
Not to suggest that Tim Russart is in the process of being turned into a giant pumkinhead or a colossal fart, but that some in the fawning media enabling his Apotheosis possibly fit that bill.
Given that a Zombie Tim Russert would be immune to political pressure or death threats, the problem that CNN had with coverage in Saddam's Iraq would finally be solved.
Posted by: Neo | June 16, 2008 at 08:57 AM
Tasteless.
But, then, I can deal with tasteless. Witless, I have a problem with.
Posted by: sbw | June 16, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Ron Paul for Meet the Press! He's the answer to everything, isn't he?
Posted by: Buford Gooch | June 16, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Don Imus.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Well, he rose from the dead, didn't he?
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Isn't it worthy of note that no one comes immediately to mind as a qualified candidate. I can think of no television journalist who is revered.
Posted by: sbw | June 16, 2008 at 09:42 AM
Watch 'em rehabilitate Dan Rather.
Just continuing the zombie theme.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 09:45 AM
The Steve Martin movie, "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" employed digital technology to merge scenes from movies produced in the forties and fifties into the plot.
My guess is that the same technique could be used to merge Edward R. Murrow into the Meet the Press format.
Posted by: MikeS | June 16, 2008 at 09:47 AM
I nominate that intrepid newsman, Scary Larry, another dead man walking.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Hire a real lawyer who knows about grand juries and questioning witnesses.
Posted by: clarice | June 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Fitz for MTP!!! No, wait, Clarice said a real lawyer.
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Why would Andrea Mitchell not be considered? She filled in for him all the time.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM
My guess is that Gregory will get it. If Olbermann is out because of "open espousal of liberal views," how is Chris Matthews still in?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM
What about Bill Clinton? Think of the questions he would ask BO.
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Because she's an old not too beautiful woman and this is mostly show biz, Sue.
If Gregory gets it, the show sinks..In fact I think if anyone at NBC is picked, the show sinks--they do not have a suitable substitute.
Posted by: clarice | June 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Because she's an old not too beautiful woman and this is mostly show biz, Sue.
You're probably right, but when I have seen her, she has done a good job.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM
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Because she's an old not too beautiful woman and this is mostly show biz, Sue.
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Wrong network; that's the Fox criteria.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Really? Fox only hires the foxy?
Maybe it's just the eyes of this beholder but Greta doesn't seem better than Andrea in the looks department, but then they both look pretty good to this geezer.
Think 7 ate 9 is projecting again or trying too hard to be annoying.
Posted by: boris | June 16, 2008 at 10:56 AM
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Maybe it's just the eyes of this beholder but Greta
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Greta's an interesting choice.
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On a whim Greta made the decision to have cosmetic eye surgery when she had a month off during her jump from CNN to Fox Television. In her wildest dreams she could never have imagined the media hullabaloo it caused. With her fabulous “new” look she was being touted as Fox-y Greta.
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Fox-y Greta
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Saaaay, we've been sniffing up the wrong whatever for a replacement. If George Stephanopoulos can be recycled by a down and out network news department into a talking head, why can't Scott McClellan be...
Nah... Nevermind. It's too crazy to even think about. Nobody would be that tone deaf. Not even a network news executive. After all, as Eason Jordan knows, the news comes first. Accuracy. Trust. That's why CNN kept the bureau spinning Saddam-approved tales in Baghdad. That's why Aaron Brown was replaced by Anderson "Spinning 360s" Cooper.
Posted by: sbw | June 16, 2008 at 11:03 AM
I had forgotten about Aaron Brown.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 11:15 AM
SBW beat me to it. Mcclellan is the obvious choice for a network news organization such as NBC. Russert will be missed more than they even know. He was one of the last shreds of credibility remaining.
Posted by: Chris | June 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Greta captured my heart a long time ago. Ran into her in the Philly train station a few months back, and had to gush all over her--did everything but ask for her autograph.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, she's very quick at asking incisive questions on an impromptu basis, without a script.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Fitz for MTP!!! No, wait, Clarice said a real lawyer.
I nominate Clarice.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Hey DOT,
HOw was the reunion?
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Jane,
Instead of radio, what do you think about television? ::wink::
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Six degrees of separation. Everyone is connected in Washington. I didn't know Russert's wife was a Vanity Fair correspondent. Lots of people in the Scooter trial with lots of connections.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 11:42 AM
(I have a friend who was a summer intern at WGN many moons ago. They had several newscasters who appeared on set in elegantly tailored suits from the waist up, but hidden behind the desk they were in shorts and sneakers.)
Hey, now there's a thought -- I remember before that clarice's demurral for jobs that we suggested her for involved a refusal to put up with the misery of nylons and big-girl shoes. Given the right set, you can wear sneakers and no one will ever know.Posted by: cathyf | June 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Give it to Brokaw, if he wants it. We've seen how Schaeffer has run rings around
Katie Couric's ratings, yet they continue
to carry the loss leader. Similar thing happened at ABC after Jenning's death &
the reporter who was wounded in Iraq by
IED. If they wanted to rebrand they would give it to Ingraham; her last was a tag team on Sunday afternoon, nearly 10 years
ago. But she carries to much baggage, a fmr. clerk for Thomas, an associate at Skadden Arps, exactly at the time, they were covering for Slick Willie. So they'll probably give it to Gregory; who's eerily like the lefty reporter Patrick Graham from the McCarry novels. I must say though, both
part of this thread, and the Protein Wisdom
one, is in extraordinarily bad taste.
Yes we know, Russert probably lied to the grand jury about the nature of his staff's contacts with Libby. That the jury foreman
should have been removed for his iceberg
sized conflict of interests (his Huff Po blogging, his assistantship to Woodward)and the role in steering the jury, toward the
desired outcome. After all, seeing how Pincus, Woodward, et al all performed who's
to say that even Armitage was the only other
source of the leak. The Kay & Duelfer reports suggest WMD stockpiles were higher than what was found after April 2003. Frankly the Deir Ur Zeir reactor points that out. The recent revelations about AQ Khan's efforts suggests a wider level of nuclear proliferation than even what we first thought; certainly what the last NIE
proudly proclaimed. The long buried CIA IG
postmortem on pre September counter AQ operations, suggest that the self
congratulatory words of Scheur, Scroen, Bentsen, re their role in the effort is not to be taken at face value. The voluminous
documentary record in Feith's War & Decision, as well indicates the whisper campaign projected by the likes of Rieff,
Packer, Ricks, Gordon et al;by Franks,
Armitage, & co,not to mention loons like
Kwiatkowski among others don't entirely give a full picture of the pre or even post invasion operations. That was why the Iraqi Perspectives Program was shut down, on a spurious pretext.
We now know that we thought Woodstein
'admitted' was true about Watergate; (that Felt was the only source for Woodward, is probably not true, Pat Gray's son has discovered at least one other 'Deep Throat' candidate, Donald Santarelli, by cross checking Woodward's notes with contempora-neous FBI notes. Most likely, according to James Rosen, John Dean, ordered the Watergate break in; for conflicted reasons.McClellan is now. kind of what Dean was then; but as they say 'he has a smaller dorsal fin' He hasn't gone to jail yet, likely perjury at the House Committee is still an option. But he felt betrayed by a White House, he felt owed him for his loyalty; and was not remunerated afterward. This sense of betrayal cuts sometimes from beyond the grave. Other parties can learn to sense the desperation and seize upon it; like Soros's Perseus cutout managed by James Johnson, (yes that James Johnson) We know thanks to Pincus's reporting,confirmed by Mitrokhin, that Agee was cultivated by the KGB's Cuban DGI handler, General Simonov over dissent on UScounterinsurgency
policy in Latin America; hence his reprinting of Mader's East bloc research as his own.Howard Hunt's recent memoir, seems to take joy at playing conspiracy theory; part of his other job, as spy novelist
implicating people in the Agency, who he might have felt didn't give him support, when he was left 'twisting in the wind' like the patrician former spymaster Cord Meyer,(who was part of Mark Reibling's departed blog speculations on the nature of Deep Throat)After all, after Watergate, he was party to a libel action, arising out
a Liberty Lobby publication implicating him in the Kennedy assasination. And let us say, much like the Libby verdict and Mcfarlane v. Esquire case featuring Craig Unger, it didn't go well
Posted by: narciso | June 16, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Everyone is connected in Washington.
Which brings me back to Bill Clinton. He not only knows all of the players, he has FBI files on them. Imagine the bony finger shaking in someones face as the other hand picks up an "Eyes Only" file. Ratings would soar as people tuned in to see who the latest "scumbag" would be. Furthermore, even money hungry Bubba might work for free just to get that much time in the limelight.
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I was just reading this over at the Corner.
He is a careful reader of daily newspapers and magazines (titles from Foreign Affairs to Maxim are stocked on his campaign plane).
Referring to Obama. I didn't know what Maxim magazine was, but was intrigued by the description provided at the Corner to look it up.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=maxim&btnG=Google+Search>Hot, Sexy girls... is the first link under a google search of Maxim.
Is Obama more like Clinton than we know?
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Well neither Foreign Affairs or Maxim are weeklies, monthlies as I recall. Next,
Scarlet Johannson, Kate Walsh, among countless others, considering the evidence, yes, Sue.
Posted by: narciso | June 16, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Everyone is connected in Washington.
They turn in clusters.
Posted by: Elliott | June 16, 2008 at 12:17 PM
OT, but I wonder when the SC will decide the gun case? Is there somewhere that gives you a heads up on when cases are being announced?
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 12:21 PM
They turn in clusters.
Damn. I wonder what Scooter was trying to tell her? I also wonder if we'll ever know the truth about what happened.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Having flubbed the Kelo case, and the whole military tribunal series; not once but three times, I'm afraid they'll come up with a right to arm bears, preferably with MP-5s. I don't have a lot of confidence with
odd man out Kennedy, Souter the hermit, or
Stevens, the reluctant former Navy codebreaker.
Posted by: narciso | June 16, 2008 at 12:26 PM
a) about his own contact with Libby; and
b) about his own knowledge about Wilson's wife -- when did he know and how much did he know.
And I think that his motivation to commit perjury is that in order to admit that he knew about Wilson's wife before July 11 he needed to explain who told him, and then the person (people) who told him would have been the target of investigations. Russert was protecting the relationship(s) between his staff (Andrea Mitchell for starters) and whomever told them about Wilson's wife.
As to whether Armitage told Mitchell, somebody else told Mitchell, Armitage told somebody else, somebody else told somebody else -- and all of the possible and/or permutations of those three high-probability events, well, who really knows or cares? That's what "it was widely known" means, after all -- that everybody knew so nobody really remembers who first passed it along. Ultimately, that is the essence of Russert's perjury: that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA was widely known in certain journalist circles before July 11, and Russert lied, under oath, when he assured the jury that it wasn't.
Hmmm... Not sure that Russert was lying about his staff's contact with Libby. I think that the two lies were:Posted by: cathyf | June 16, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I didn't know Russert's wife was a Vanity Fair correspondent.
She was the the person Andrew Kunanin used to call in the middle of the night.
And she is an odd duck too.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 12:36 PM
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was widely known in certain journalist circles
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Do you have actual names for this? I see this claim all the time, but I've never seen any hard data to back it up.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Jane, the reunion was absolutely wonderful. I was quite surprised at how much fun it turned out to be. When you reach geezer stage, you realize that you don't really know anyone in quite the same way you know the people you were teenagers with. Lots of flirting occurred...
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 16, 2008 at 12:41 PM
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who really knows or cares?
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ahhh, got it.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 12:43 PM
and whomever told them about Wilson's wife.
I'm guessing Colin Powell told Mitchell. Powell was my original guess for UGO. It would have had to be someone both Mitchell and Russert were willing to protect. I don't think someone lower than Armitage would fit that bill.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 12:45 PM
I don't have a lot of confidence with odd man out Kennedy, Souter the hermit, or Stevens, the reluctant former Navy codebreaker.
Understandable given this court seems to be all over the place. But I do remember when oral arguments were made that Kennedy was asking questions that made it sound like, to me at least, that he clearly read the 2nd amendment to be an individual right. I think this one will go the right way.
Posted by: GMax | June 16, 2008 at 12:47 PM
This is pretty sick from Gateway Pundit:
Hope?... Obama Ex-con Supporter & Rezko Buddy Wants More Insurgent Attacks On US Troops
This reeks--
You may want to hose down after reading this filth.
This is scummy Chicago-Rezko-Obama politics at its worst.
Dr Aiham Alsammarae is the former Iraqi Minister of Electricity and Chicago friend of Tony Rezko and a huge Obama fan. (Photo via IDP)
Nibraz Kazimi at the Talisman Gate has this latest awful news for the Obama Campaign.
The Messiah better work a miracle and keep this one out of the mainstream media's hands.
Talsiman Gate reported:
Ayham Alsammarae, Iraq’s slimy ex-Minister of Electricity under the Bremer and Allawi administrations, who had escaped from an Iraqi prison by hiring an American security company to break him out back in December 2006, has resurfaced in the Jordanian capital Amman where he gave a press conference today saying, among other things, that he hoped that the insurgency in Iraq “would continue [against U.S. occupation] and avenges the Iraqi people.”
Alsammarae, an Iraqi-American Chicagoan, added during remarks carried by Radio Sawa (Arabic link) that he had contributed the maximum allowable of $2,300 to Barack Obama’s campaign.
But there’s another Obama link to Alsammarae: while serving as electricity minister Alsammarae had been involved in brokering deals in the Iraqi electricity sector for Antoin Rezko, Obama’s long-term friend and patron. Rezko is the Syrian-American hustler who was convicted of fraud in an Illinois court on the day that Obama secured the Democratic nomination.
There is much more at Talisman Gate.
Rezko and Alsammarae were college room-mates.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Do you have actual names for this?
Mitchell, Miller, Novak, Woodward ...
moron.
Posted by: boris | June 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Probably Andrew Cunanan.
And for recent readers, one should probably mention that Vanity Fair is noted for its spread on Joe Wilson and Valarie Plame, who were, at the time, trying to maintain the low profile that befits a secret agent.
Posted by: sbw | June 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM
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I'm guessing Colin Powell told Mitchell.
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I'm guessing it was Sasquatch that told Mothra who let it slip to the Loch Ness Monster.
Because it just couldn't be Bush and Cheney that cooked the whole thing up and whose guilty consciences compelled them to pardon the fall guy.
Definitely Sasquatch.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM
DoT,
Nice to hear that you enjoyed your reunion. My parents are hosting a picnic for my dad's 50th high school reunion (Washburn High, Mpls) this coming weekend. They're excited. I know from my 20th last fall that it is a real joy to connect with folks you didn't initially feel you had much in common with. Way, way more fun than I expected it to be.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 16, 2008 at 12:55 PM
From the LA Times ..
Posted by: Neo | June 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
To answer my own question, yes there is a place to find the latest rulings. They live-blogged while the public portion while it was in session.
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/liveblog-orders-and-opinions-61608/>Scotusblog
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
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Mitchell, Miller, Novak, Woodward ...
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ummmm, yeah, and Scooter/Cheney/Bush had something to do with that.
You know, the whole conviction/prison/pardon thing?
That's what that was about.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Scooter/Cheney/Bush had something to do with that.
Novsk and Woodward learned from Armitage. Mitchell now denies what she once claimed was common knowleged in the news cricle that covers CIA and Miller had Wilson phone number and a variation on Plame's name in her infamous notes before she spoke to Libby.
So basically you are both ignorant and stupid to come to this site and spout nonsense.
Posted by: boris | June 16, 2008 at 01:07 PM
More reasons for Bill Clinton Hosting MTP:
He can lie under oath with the best of 'em.
He totally believes the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy theory.
He gets thrills up his leg just like Matthews.
This is a match made in -- well if not heaven then surely someplace eternal.
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 01:13 PM
...conviction/prison/pardon thing?
gotta link for that?
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Thanks cathy and Jane but it's too much work, and I'm too old and lazy and am afraid of all the necessary plastic surgery and find the hair styling boring.
89 Powell was one of the few guests at Andrea's wedding--she and her husband were very close to Powell. In the middle of the trial the judge said there was something in her notes which might require that he allow the defense to call her and then inexplicably he changed his mind.
I agree that Powell was probably her source.
And I know Russert's testimony wasn't truthful. Fitz apparently never showed him the Eckenrode notes prior to his testimony so he just hardened his tale ; Fitz never called Eckenrode and knew that (a) he'd never willingly talk to the defense and (b) no defense counsel would call him without prior off the record interviewing..
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Posted by: clarice | June 16, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Probably Andrew Cunanan.
Yeah, that's the ticket - thanks SBW
Dot,
I'm so glad it was fun, and there was flirting. A perfect Sat night.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Things that we know are true because the jury said so:
1. Scooter is guilty.
2. OJ is not guilty.
Everybody move on. Nothing to see here . . .
Posted by: BOATBUILDER | June 16, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Yes,DOT..Glad the reunion was fun and those friends of our youth are some of the best we ever make in our lives even if we barely ever see them again.
Posted by: clarice | June 16, 2008 at 01:30 PM
I'd also forgotten about Aaron Brown, I liked him. But, hey, who better to replace Russert's white board than the new king of whiteboard ... ::drumroll:: ... Karl Rove.
Posted by: Sara | June 16, 2008 at 01:32 PM
Jeff Greenfield could do it.
Posted by: clarice | June 16, 2008 at 01:34 PM
I wish Tony Snow was healthy.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Yeah Sue, that would be awesome.
Posted by: bad | June 16, 2008 at 01:37 PM
Don't forget Kristoff himself said Valerie's position was known a bit in Washington circles.
Andrea Mitchell said again yesterday that they always always called Tim with their tips and tidbits. We'll never hear if David Gregory was told anything by Ari, and if he in turn called Tim.
Posted by: MayBee | June 16, 2008 at 01:37 PM
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gotta link for that?
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You mean a url?
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 01:54 PM
Greenfield would be a fine choice. Personally, I regret there'll never be another Lawrence Spivak.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | June 16, 2008 at 02:03 PM
I just watched Luke Russert's interview this morning over at Hot Air. I think he should replace his Dad. What an amazing, articulate, likeable kid.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Danube,
Glad the reunion went well. Have a great trip.
Posted by: Elliott | June 16, 2008 at 02:20 PM
And this is good news from The Campaign Spot:
McCain: Let States Drill Off Shores; Let's Have a Town Hall With La Raza
John McCain just completed a press conference here in Arlington, VA. Not the most chock-full of news appearance the senator has ever made, but one clear headline coming out of it — tomorrow he will call for the lifting of "the federal moratorium on states that choose to permit exploration" off their shores.
The other interesting gauntlet he threw down? He recommended a joint town hall meeting before... the National Council of La Raza.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Jane,
I watched it earlier today. I found out that Tim is a Springsteen fan, not just of his music, but also his politics. Kind of depressed me. They can claim he wasn't an ideologue all day, I no longer believe it.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Russert wasn't perfect but he was better than a lot. I don't care if he was a A Springsteen fan, I'm one too.. My beef with Russert was his testimony. But given that interview, I have no problem with how he raised his son. If Luke is how we judge, he was a great Dad.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 02:34 PM
"What about Bill Clinton? Think of the questions he would ask BO."
Like,"When did you stop beating my wife?"
Posted by: PeterUK | June 16, 2008 at 02:42 PM
I don't care if he was a A Springsteen fan I'm one too
I'm not. Of his music or his politics.
I don't have a problem with how he raised his son. I don't know what I said that made you think so.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 02:43 PM
Jane- I agree completely.
And Sue, I'm not certain if Luke said his dad was a fan of Springsteen's politics or of his causes. They are different.
Springsteen's politics were rhetorically ridiculous (I never thought I'd live in a country where habeas corpus had been taken away!), but his causes were more about opportunity for the working man. That's more admirable, I think, and if I recall the interview, Luke specifically mentioned that.
Regardless, I agree that Russert wasn't not an ideologue, but his reporting was fairer than most.
Posted by: MayBee | June 16, 2008 at 02:43 PM
eightnine, you need to call someone at a higher pay grade before you start woofing about Libby over here.
Armitage's quote to Woodward, long before July 11, went something like this "That asshole Wilson is spreading his wife's name all over town.'
The fact is, Joe and Val outed themselves. History will get it right, even if you can't.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 02:44 PM
"They can claim he wasn't an ideologue all day, I no longer believe it."
You mean the constant repetition of a lie doesn't make it true?
It really isn't just that he lied, it's that he assertively lied when "I don't have a clear memory of that.." would have served.
He certainly had a nice facade though. No one can deny that. Kinda like a living Potemkin Village.
His successor won't be nearly as good a liar - that we can bank on.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | June 16, 2008 at 02:44 PM
Via Hot Air, Obama intends to travel to Afghanistan and Iraq:
An obvious time to go would be during the week of the Republican convention. However, I wouldn't discount the possibility of an early August trip, with a meeting with Sistani scheduled on Aug. 4, the birthday of both.
Posted by: Elliott | June 16, 2008 at 02:45 PM
And Sue, I'm not certain if Luke said his dad was a fan of Springsteen's politics or of his causes.
Springsteen's causes are directly related to his politics. But anyway, I'm out of this conversation about Springsteen. It always turns out bad for me.
backing away from Springsteen criticism
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 02:46 PM
I didn't hear a word about Springsteen's causes in that interview. Maybe I missed it.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 02:49 PM
FWIW, I think Sprinsteen is a political doofus.
Posted by: MayBee | June 16, 2008 at 02:50 PM
Prediction:
Republicans are furious that Bush has been called a liar for the last 8 years, and will attempt to slander President Obama in similar terms.
But because Obama is a gentleman by nature, the charges will not stick, leading Republicans to call him the 'Teflon President'.
Reagan supporters will be especially confounded by how he can 'get away with it'.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Sistani won't meet him. I'd lay large odds. He wouldn't meet Ahmadi-Nejad when he visited, why would he meet Obama.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 02:51 PM
eightnine, the WaPo has pointed out that Rockefeller's most recent assertion of the Bush Lied meme is hogwash. Just today, the LATimes says the same thing and talks up Feith's 'War and Decision'.
Historians will get this right, despite all the static from jackasses like you.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Hey - Congress subpoenaed the FBI interview reports of Bush and Cheney - re Plam-AY. Ya think the FBI has them? They didn't get lost along with Russert's? And right after Russert passes on. Funny how that works.
Posted by: Enlightened | June 16, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Jane- I can't find the transcript, so I can't double check what I'm sure I heard.
Posted by: MayBee | June 16, 2008 at 02:55 PM
I think everybody here would like to see the Plame case re-opened.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 02:56 PM
I'm half betting Obama won't go. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the GWOT are losing issues for him. Why headline it?
Besides, were I he, I wouldn't trust security.
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Posted by: kim | June 16, 2008 at 02:58 PM
"Republicans are furious that Bush has been called a liar for the last 8 years, and will attempt to slander President Obama in similar terms."
Obama has Bush beaten,he is being called a liar without being elected.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 16, 2008 at 03:00 PM
Via http://ace.mu.nu/>Ace. A blogger at HuffPo...
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 03:00 PM
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Bush Lied meme
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I wasn't rehashing that since I'm pretty sure what most people's thoughts are on that issue.
But for the record, historians still believe that Nixon was a liar, so good luck on that count.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 03:01 PM
"Hot, Sexy girls... is the first link under a google search of Maxim.
Is Obama more like Clinton than we know?"
Is Obama more like Clinton than Michelle knows. My thoughts are for the Oval Office carpet.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 16, 2008 at 03:03 PM
You know it's funny, McCain has to keep telling Obama what to do. He's the head of the committee on Afghanistan and he doesn't know enough to see what goes on there first time.
Boy that Sat nite live skit sure had some truth in it.
Posted by: Jane | June 16, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Obama is a gentleman by nature? Bullcrap. Gentlemen walk out of hate-filled sermons in 20 seconds - it took this moron 20 years to figure out his hate-filled spirituality wasn't playing well to his peons.
Posted by: Enlightened | June 16, 2008 at 03:03 PM
"But for the record, historians still believe that Nixon was a liar, so good luck on that count."
But everybody KNOWS Obama is a liar.
Posted by: PeterUK | June 16, 2008 at 03:04 PM
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But everybody KNOWS Obama is a liar.
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Good, we're almost there; now all that's left is for you guys to call him the Teflon President.
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 03:06 PM
We can't call him Teflon. It is racist.
Posted by: Sue | June 16, 2008 at 03:07 PM
NATO is getting ready to beef up Afghanistan operations. I wonder if Obama will get back to Capitol Hill to hold a committee meeting about it.
Posted by: MayBee | June 16, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Besides - Nothing sticks to Teflon - ObamaNotAMessiah is into clingyness.
I think he fits a Glue Trap definition - all his lies are sticking like glue.
Posted by: Enlightened | June 16, 2008 at 03:12 PM
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We can't call him Teflon. It is racist.
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OMG! Anyone have Emeril on speed dial?
Posted by: eightnine2718281828mu5 | June 16, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Yo eightnine'otard - Did you know Teflon was black? Or is that why you seek Emeril's FAQ's?
Posted by: Enlightened | June 16, 2008 at 03:15 PM
The Apotheosis of Tim Russart continues. Apotheosis refers to the ancient Roman concept whereby an individual becomes a god, usually shortly after dying, and in response to massive emotional outpourings and well orchestrated publicity campaigns. The deified Julius Caesar and Augustus are good examples. Seems to me our 2008 Media is essentially doing the same thing, just without the obligatory temple or animal sacrifice.
The great thing about the ancients however, is that they also had a sense of humor. When Emperor Claudius died, Seneca wrote The Apocolcytosis, a satire wherein the deceased Emperor, instead of being transformed into a god, was instead transformed into a pumkin, or (the text is vague) more likely the pumpkin headed Emperor was transformed into something else. I seem to recall that Robert Graves suggested that Seneca was playfully suggesting that Claudius had been transformed into a giant fart.
Not to suggest that Tim Russart is in the process of being turned into a giant pumkinhead or a colossal fart, but that some in the fawning media enabling his Apotheosis possibly fit that bill.
Posted by: Daddy | June 16, 2008 at 03:19 PM