I'm Shocked. And Awed!

I just find this unbelievable!  What do you think?

ERRATA:  No, I have no idea what I'm talking about either, but I thought I would have found an internet connection by now.  Still rambling.

Comments

[boris]

I'm shocked, shocked to find that rambling is going on in here!

[Dan Collins]

I am aw, damn, I spilled my coffee.

[Jane]

I'm shocked and awed that it's morning again. I really hope it's a good one!

[kim]

I'm shocked and lock-jawed. Until we invented vaccines and antibiotics, every year after the Fourth there was an epidemic of deaths from tetanus. The instigating microbe would be driven under the skin from firecracker mishaps and if it took aholt, death struck like a bolt.
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[Walter]

Hey rambling boy, why don't you settle down?

MORE:

Boston ain't your kind of town.

[Neo]

Try this on for size ...

Iran's top diplomat condemned recent moves in the West to undermine Islamic values and said that these initiatives are intolerable for Muslim nations.

He also urged Muslim countries to support Iran's bid to hold a seat at the UN Security Council and noted that Iran is the only Muslim candidate from Asia eligible to join the UN Secutiry Council this year.

Making the Security Council as useless as the UN Human Rights.

[Neo]

Wes Clark assumes his position "under the bus."

[clarice]

A little travel memoir:
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/kosovo_ho.html>Kosovo,Ho

[centralcal]

Loved your remembrance of travels past, Clarice.

Yugoslavia/Kosovo doesn't sound like a very appealing place.

I have heard that Dubrovnik is interesting/nice and you seem to indicate that as well.

[clarice]

Thanks,cc--At the site one Albanian is really pissed about the piece..a Mr. Osmani--but heck that's the way I remember that place.

[Veeshir]

I for one am shocked, but not awwwwwwed.

Now, I awwwwed.

(Note, picture taken right before we went "clubbing".)

[Jane]

Wow Clarice,

I'm consistently impressed by your writing.

[Jane]

How fun is this?

Edwards, Rove to face off in UB debate

LUN

[clarice]

Thanks,Jane...Oh my, what fun that debate will be!

[liontooth]

Were Wesley Clark's comments really the opening salvo in the Clinton's 'undermine Obama so Hillary can run as the #1 dem in 2012'?

[glasater]

Well--here's an idea for the R's to contemplate. Just leap-frog over the D's and campaign on social programs.

Why Barack Obama may be lonely in 2009

Neal Lawson, a former adviser and speechwriter to Gordon Brown, recently blasted his party for losing this key piece of terrain, for leaving a large open space that has been filled by parties of the right across Europe.

"Labour's neo-liberals have emerged out of the decade-long process of triangulation," he said, "so ideological and electoral strategy come together: The Tories [were] defeated by taking their terrain before they have a chance to get there." But now, he added, Mr. Brown "has left so much space to the left that David Cameron has found it impossible not to leapfrog into it."

Behind these acrobatics you'll find the truly great comic paradox of our age: The left is struggling to find ways to seize the social safety net away from its current champions on the right, while conservatives are hoping they might win the free-market economy back from its owners on the left. A decade ago, it would have been impossible to imagine.

And as the bloodied left-wing parties struggle to find their way to some future victory, while conservatives search for messages that haven't been borrowed from the other side, it's increasingly clear that absolutely nobody has any idea what will happen next.

[PeterUK]

Rare video of the Obamamobile in action

[GMax]

Hey PUK

Now that is something totally different, sorta like Benny Hill used to say!

[PeterUK]

glasater,
"The Tories [were] defeated by taking their terrain before they have a chance to get there."

Actually,the Labour Party just lied,pretending to adopt Toty policies but in fact reverting to the old redistributionist ways of old.
The conjuring trick was performed by spin doctors seizing the news cycle and making sure no negative news came out.
Sound familiar?

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Rare video ...

Heh. It's Deconstruction Day.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Oh, Max, that was Monty Python.

[glasater]

Sound familiar?

PUK--Yes, and it makes me crazy:-)

[GMax]

NO it was Benny Hill. And a lot funny most of the time than Monte Python. A lot.

[GMax]

funny = funnier

my typist is on vacation!

[Charlie (Colorado)]

"And now for something totally different?" Python.

[glasater]

Enjoyed the videos of the bus and ventriloquist. A little humor is needed right now.
But on a more serious note-- Spengler has this take on America's financial woes and a solution of sorts.

This brief list does not cover such weighty matters as energy policy, bank regulatory policy, and so forth, but it indicates the sort of turnabout that America requires. Americans have to change their lives. There are two ways to do this. The federal government can provide incentives to do so, or the market can compel a change in behavior using the instruments of torture at its disposal.

With the above presentation I have discharged my civic duty. The likelihood that the present administration and Congress will do anything remotely like this, of course, is vanishingly small. My advice to individual investors? Invest in some popcorn, because the next six months will be something to watch.

[Topsecretk9]

OH SOYLENT!

Federal investigators have electronic surveillance evidence that allegedly links Detroit City Council President Pro Tem Monica Conyers with receiving a payment or payments in connection with a city-approved sludge contract, two people familiar with the investigation said.

Conyers -- who changed her position from speaking in opposition to the sludge contract to voting in favor of it -- and at least one other council member are under FBI investigation in connection with possible bribes related to the $47 million contract with Synagro Technologies Inc. of Houston, one of the people familiar with the investigation said Friday. Bribes allegedly paid to people connected with the city but not members of the City Council also are under investigation, one person said.

[Daddy]

Shocked and awed. Wasn't that what the Astronauts wives were supposed to say to the News Media at Launch Time? "We're shocked and awed and thrilled and delighted..."
I can't wait for our next manned Lunar Flight so I can see the updated version of whatever engines take over from the Saturn Five Thrusters. That'll be Shock and Awe.

[glenda waggoner]

Clarice-just finished KOSOVO. I cannot explain what it meant to me. My paternal grandparents emigrated from Yugoslavia, in 1919-my grandfather came here running from the facists(they just told me hush when I asked why as a little girl) and my Baba followed shortly after(it was an arranged marriage by his parents-they had 3-4 girls from neighboring farms come cook and clean for them for a few weeks each and picked the best-my Baba-gave her a ticket on a boat to Galveston, Texas where Grandpa Chris picked her up; after the 6 weeks in isolation,married and had 6 children).When,as a young adult, I expressed a desire to see her homeland(which would be around the time of your trip)-she went into a Serbian rant which was
interpretted for me as"Never go there-there are evil people,still, in the soil of my birth."She stopped going to the Serbian Orthodox church and went to the Greek Orthodox because communists, she believed,ruled the church.I do wish, I could have seen the church in the country you imagined to be Serbian, though,the church in Galveston where I received my first communion is still breathtaking in it's simplicity. Any hoo- it's was a treat to be a mental traveler today-your stories always help the reader to understand your subject. And today, I learned about the place my Baba was so happy to leave. She became a naturalized citizen in 1930 and although she preferred to read her Bible in
Serbian until the day she died, she thanked God in English for her opportunity to live free in America.

[Elliott]

I can assure PUK that I am not the guilty party.

[Neo]

I really can't believe the story about the "fake" Obama birth certificate.

This was obviously done by a low level staffer.

I find it unimaginable that Obama let this fraud persist for how many weeks ? Doe he have no responsibility for the acts of his staff.
I suggest that Obama fire all low level staffers, 2 per hour over the the next 16 weeks.

[clarice]

Thank you, Glenda. I'm glad if it helped you see what you missed. My grandparents all left eastern Europe about the same time. I travled there on a number of occasions and remain forever grateful to them for having had the guts to flee..

[PeterUK]

"I really can't believe the story about the "fake" Obama birth certificate."

It is all true,Obama is a fake.

[PeterUK]

al Qaeda are shocked,awed and dead

[Jim]

The Queen was shocked and appalled, as usual.

[Thomas Collins]

I have no idea whether the notion that B57O is not a natural born US citizen will turn out to be true. But if it does, B57O will have a great title for his next book: "The Audacity of Resume Padding." Claiming one is a natural born US citizen when one is not would truly be an audacious act of resume padding.

[Elliott]

I saw over at the Page that Obama may be speaking in Berlin. When I mentioned this to my father and asked him if he had any thoughts on what Obama might say he suggested "Ich bin ein Beginner."

[Porchlight]

LOL, Elliott. That's a great one.

[Barney Frank]

Charlie,

It was "And now for something completly different..." and it was Monty Python.

[Ann]

I want more travel stories. I felt like I was with you Clarice.

Oh, and I have to add to my previous puppy list:

If we let jidadists take over my country, they will eat my puppy and put booties on my dog

This is really getting out of hand.

[Ann]

Looks like the entire Hit and Run family have pedicured toes and the second toes longer than the first. Hit and Run's Photo of The Day

[RichatUF]

Hope everyone had a great Independence Day holiday.

glasater in re: Spengler. I'm not exactly sure what his point was with the article. He seemed to use up a lot of space to say, "Americans have to change their lives."

Nor am I sure his prescription would do all that much-the cap gains tax isn't going to get eliminated, the 401k per-tax limit isn't going to 100k, the Fed has a dual role of domestic price stability and domestic full employment (so seeing house and auto prices declining sharply would mean the Fed has to keep rates low until they find a bottom), and I'm not sure any SWFs would want to buy US banks [and many have substantial investments in US banks anyway]. FWIW

[clarice]

Thanks, Ann.
Hit's family sure has pretty toes and a great ability to tolerate very cold water.

[Ann]

Well, Change, Change, Change, Rich, we gotta Change.

Here is a great quote:

Barack Obama says, "This is the greatest country in the world and I cannot wait to begin remaking it." I'm not interested in the remaking of America, although I would like a couple of these recent laws to be repealed. Basically I came to America because in many ways it is the last unwrecked part of the Western world. I tend to take the view that if it ain't broke, don't get Barack Obama to fix it.

Mark Steyn, Interview in the Limbaugh Letter
The picture alone is worth the magazine, ladies. I think I might frame it.

[Ann]

Hope you are rested and feel better, Clarice.

I really wish everyone would stop with the fireworks though because my dog hasn't left my side since the festivities began and there still going off here. I can't tell you how many times I have almost tripped over her and she weighs 92 pounds. LOL

[RichatUF]

Ann-

I saw something (Ace I think) about BHO now claiming he isn't a "flip-flopper" and everything he has been saying is consistent with previous statements, and he blamed the whole thing on reporters. Good grief.

Also noticed a blurb at CNN about BHO having trouble with Clinton voters, and it has gotten worse, not better. I'll save the internals for Rick, but it looks like another data point for what he was saying in a previous thread about "the muddle" not buying.

[glasater]

Rich--The Spengler article is of course one man's 'take' on our economic situation but contained some ideas that were interesting.

There have been some talk that the markets are going into the tank because of an impending Barack Obama presidency--especially if he raises taxes as he says he will do. That's one area where he has definitely not tacked to the center--much to the markets concern.

[narciso]

Reasonable thoughts from someone named
"Spengler" the German philosopher who was like Mark Steyn, without the humor. Doesn't the real issue lie with the eighteen
consecutive monthes of Fed rate increases
which precipitated the Fed meltdown, not the two or three almost lackadaisacal Fed cuts. Would'nt further Fed rate hikes, crack the allready shaky financialfoundation
; do we really want to relive 1979-81 all over again. He doesn't really think that will decrease oil prices significantly, and that tradeoff is worth more monetary pain
inflicted on the consumer.

[Ann]

Rich, Tom Hayden has an interesting post for the far left loons at Huffington and this is from HotAir:

Flip, Flop, Flip

[Rick Ballard]

Rich,

Them ain't Clinton supporters. Them are the folk that Ed Rendell mentioned a few months back - I believe he disparaged them as "conservative" Democrats. White, <$50K and HS or less.

Oh yeah - the other common factor is that they share a very strong opinion regarding affirmative action.

Very strong.

Even stronger than that.

[Rick Ballard]

Rich,

Them ain't Clinton supporters. Them are the folk that Ed Rendell mentioned a few months back - I believe he disparaged them as "conservative" Democrats. White, <$50K and HS only.

Oh yeah - the other common factor is that they share a very strong opinion regarding affirmative action.

Very strong.

Even stronger than that.

[Porchlight]

Rich,

Saw the CNN poll re: Clinton. I was honestly surprised - given the blase attitude of so many Dems toward Obama's constantly changing positions, I figured the Clintonites would fall in line after a few weeks of bruised feelings. Well, they don't have to jump to JMac, they just have to not vote for O.

[glasater]

If congress would get their act together on energy policy and drill, drill, drill as Kudlow says--the price of oil would drop quickly I believe.
By the way narciso--I'm right in the middle of 'Second Sight' and it's pretty interesting--thanks for pointing me to Macarry.

Here is some cheery news-not from an article in the WSJ.

[sbw]

glasater, Forstmann has everything except advice about what to do.

[RichatUF]

glasater-

Spengler isn't the only one with that take. I just don't see how raising rates at this point would make a difference and cutting corporate taxes, eliminating the AMT, and making the Bush tax cuts permanent would be more effective.

Nor are his graphs all that helpful: oil (along with many other commodities and products [like aircraft]) is sold in dollars so with random starting and stopping using a lagged change I could show a strong or negative correlation to the trade weighted dollar index (as his second graph shows where nearly half the range is bouncing around +/- 10%). Goosed productivity numbers, a major part of the strength of the Euro (and the falling dollar index), isn't going to last (their baby boom started a few years later than ours and they work 10 fewer years) either. Also dollar-based inflation is creeping into the eurozone wage base, while euro strength is hitting them on their imports, exports, and their travel and tourism industry.

It seems odd to me that if investors were looking for an inflation hedge they would all pile into commodities, making them more expensive vs. the dollar, in turn making inflation worse. Also, if inflation were becoming a concern in the US, real estate would start ticking up because it too is an inflation hedge, much better than some paper in a brokers book.

Agreed that everyone seems to be running for the doors worried about an Obama presidency (with a democrat congress), but the Wily E Coyote paradigm that oil is floating on isn't going to last, which will spill over to the whole commodities complex.

[kim]

A local editor hopes that news of a cutback in WalMart's projected capital expenditures is proof that a recession is coming. At least one commenter scoffed.
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[narciso]

By the way, 89's cheerful a recession's coming, run for your lives" new story, is kind of counteracted by David Leonhardt(the economic columnists summer fairwell entry; where he argues that the likely unemployment
spikjes we shall see into the fall, and next spring; are lagging indicators, long after the downturn. To balance it out, he had to add that this downturn is worse, because no one had a raise in this boom as opposed to the last one; which was based on those indispensable commodities of Pets.com
and AOL, as I recall. By the way, my local
economic columnist; actually he's an import from Bloomberg is saying the GDP during the Clinton years was 3.7% on average over the 2.4% for the Bush years; does that seem right. They also got someone from the Tax Policy Center to state that McCain's tax cuts would cost 3.7 trillion whereas Obama's would cost only 2.7 trillion over 10 years.

[RichatUF]

Reading the Frostmann interview, geeze you'd think that people were out there cheering for a depression. I wonder what assets he wants to snap up but needs the Fed to raise rates high enough so he can get them cheap.

Thanks Rick re the poll.

[glasater]

SBW--Forstmann himself doesn't know what to do. He seems to be waiting for the 'innovator' to take over from the 'idiot'. Wonder which one Barack Obama is:-)

Rich--Interesting article and thanks for the pointer. Can empathize with all those folks quoted.
I'm kind of exhilarated with the idea of really tough times to come--because there could be opportunities 'in there' of some kind plus I like challenges.

[PaulL]

One thing Spengler has very wrong is about retirement meaning, to Americans, 40 more hours of watching TV. Granted he may have been trying to be funny, but since it wasn't funny, I'm thinking he may believe it.

Maybe I run in different circles than he does, but I don't know anyone who retires nowadays and doesn't immediately take a different job. I don't know anyone who watches anywhere near that much TV. And I know some teenagers who don't watch *any* TV.

[MikeS]

Tax Policy Center to state that McCain's tax cuts would cost 3.7 trillion whereas Obama's would cost only 2.7 trillion over 10 years.

Someone should remind Brookings that taxes are money that is skimmed off the top of commerce, a cost. Whereas tax cuts are the opposite, a savings.

[narciso]

Forstmann, really seems to tend apocalyptically in his pronouncements. Back in the 80s, he had this Jeremiah complex about junk bonds and the Brexel crew; a flavor of which can be detected in the 1993
adaptation of "Barbarians at the Gate" where David Rasche, Mr. "Sledgehammer" was picked to play him, and it was an over the top performance; considering that Forstmann was supposedly making Burrough's point on excess leverage . I do recall that the supposed villains of the piece; Henry
Kravis, played by Jonathan Pryce, was given
less dramatic material, and the anti-hero F. Ross Johnson,played by James Garner, were almost equally matched; whereas as Fred Thompson's role as American Express's X's Jim Robinson was understated. One wonders what representations the Countrywide
and Ameriquest follies will spawn.
Speculation that Dodd, Conrad, et al will be excised like Bukharin & Zinoviev wouldn't surprise me. Interestingly only Penelope Spheeris off kilter BDS riven Enron film was really greenlit; not Kozlowki's Roman excess or the mysterious Tyco crew. Along with the very weak
Enronish 'dramedy' "Fun with Dick and Jane"

[RichatUF]

narciso-

...actually he's an import from Bloomberg is saying the GDP during the Clinton years was 3.7% on average over the 2.4% for the Bush years; does that seem right...

Not really. I'm thinking that Clinton came in at 3.1% and Bush has come in at 3.0%. Also, it never fails that the Tax Policy Center would call a tax cut a "cost" seeing as how all our money should belong to the government...

[RichatUF]

glasater-

I'm sure "The Road Warrior" secenrio won't be necessary, but I'm sure by next week the DNC-MSM complex will try to make it appear that way.

[glasater]

PaulL--I think all of us boomers are going to have to work a little longer:-)

[hit and run]

Ann:
Looks like the entire Hit and Run family have pedicured toes and the second toes longer than the first.

::grin::

And yes, Clarice, that water was pretty cold. But not as cold as today when hit and run jr and I went up into the mountains for some hiking and wading. Brrrrr.....

[Elliott]

hit and run.

After I saw your TM inspired post on the hot air dirigibles, I started hoping that they'll have balloons for Obama in Berlin. Red, about 100. Perhaps 99.

[hit and run]

Who's Obama?

Sorry, I've been out of the loop here. That name sounds familiar, but...

heh

I'm glad the balloon reference didn't go completely unnoticed.

[Elliott]

Who's Obama?

You're not the only one who's wondering.

[larwyn]

Who is Barack Hussein Obama, that's what we all want to know.

Tigerhawk asks

http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2008/07/natural-born.html

Natural born By TigerHawk at 7/05/2008 09:03:00 PM

For the sake of the country, I hope the Obama campaign can demonstrate that it did not, in fact, use a forgery to "prove" that Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution. The story, which is scary in its detail if you dig through the links, raises a question: Do citizens have standing to sue to enforce the "natural born citizen" requirement? If so, one would think that the rules of discovery would allow a plaintiff to get to the bottom of this question fairly quickly.

MORE: Doug Ross has much more here.

To be clear (in case I was not), I do not think that it would be good for anybody, including Republicans, if it turned out that Barack Obama was not "natural born" under the law. What a mess that would be for the whole country. However, if it is true that the Obama campaign released a forgery to combat the "smear" that Obama was not natural born, we should consider that to be a serious issue. Not only might it be a crime (is it ever lawful to forge a government document?), but it would strongly suggest that Obama is letting the call of destiny go to his head. That's never good.

Considering fact that there are Clinton donors who are refusing to contribute to O!'s campaign, there should be lots of money out there to pursue such a case.

NOTE: FNC just broke into reruns to show LIVE President Bush with Japan's PM at a press conference prior to the G8.

G.W. is talking about such foolish things as starvation in Africa, the value of the dollar and now is talking about North Korean sanctions.

So naturally CNN, who is all over the world, did not see fit to broadcast this. They do, however, cover ever utterance of O! And rumor is they are trying to get exclusive coverage of his trips to the john.

G.W. is now talking about religious freedom and the Olympics noting that he was the only U S president who has ever stood with the Dahli Lama "and I told the Chinese that I was going to and I did".

Will anyone do a story on that?

Hugh Hewitt notes that WaPo is covering Obama's "Spiritual Journey": Where's Jeremiah Wright?

The Washington Post has a lengthy story on Obama's current account of his faith journey.

The story, strangely, leaves unexamined the role of Pastor Wright in Obama's spiritual journey. How can a story allegedly about Obama's religious beliefs not discuss in depth the influence of Jeremiah Wright, which is detailed in Obama's memoir, Dreams of My Father?

It cannot, of course, and it is not a serious story as a result. It is a certain that Obama wants to airbrush Pastor Wright and his views from the candidate's biography, but ought the nation's leading paper cooperate in the exercise?

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/eObama's "Spiritual Journey": Where's Jeremiah Wright?3ed5227-6fd1-403f-817e-aab2344fcaa8

[Rocco]

Five years ago today "What I Didn't Find In Africa." The New York Times was his get away vehicle. Joe Wilson, The New York Times, the CIA and the State Department brought down a sitting president during wartime. Traitors each and every one!

[clarice]

News alert: Based on a successful experiment yesterday afternoon, I am happy to inform that 3 year olds who are car sick and "have to throw up" can be rather instantly cured by an infusion of jelly bellies, esp, the red ones and brown ones with the whit4e dots.

[kim]

Better to be lucky than smart.
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[centralcal]

LOL, Clarice! Having traveled with "car sick" kids, I will remember to stock Jelly Bellys in my purse.

[kim]

Rocco, it gratifies me immensely that half of all activist Democrats now view Larry Johnson, and by association, Val and Joe, as unreliable, nay possibly traitorous, themselves. Truly 'who lives by the sword &c' or karma or hubris or some magical action. So far as I'm concerned, it couldna happind a betta peepul.
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[Pofarmer]

On this natural born thing. I realize Senators don't have to be natural born. But, don't you think that somewhere along the line Obama would have had to have shown the appropriate papers to somebody to run for office? Surely whereever it is that you sign up to run for President had a look at his papers? Wouldn't they?

[centralcal]

Pofarmer: I asked a similar question a few days ago. I don't think anybody knows how Presidential candidates "prove" they're qualified to run.

I think, more than likely, Obama meets the natural born requirement. But, I also believe the COLB being flashed about on the web is phony baloney and not proof of anything, except forgery.

[Porchlight]

Larwyn,

Did they mention that it's Bush's birthday today? Because I feel certain we are going to hear all about it when O turns 47 on August 4.

Happy Birthday, Mr. President!

[Porchlight]

Pofarmer, centralcal,

My understanding is that there is no such official process of proving qualifications before the election. The parties are supposed to vet their candidates.

[Tina]

OH the arrogance of the Obamaman:

Um, Senator ... [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Barack Obama moves on: "when I was a United States senator..."

From the Corner....

[PeterUK]

"The parties are supposed to vet their candidates."

Is that like getting the cat neutered?

[Rick Ballard]

Glasater,

If you would like to trace the path of the Obama Bear Market, this graph of the SP500 is a decent marker. Note that Clinton conceded on Saturday, June 7. The SP500 was at 1400 on June 6th and has made it to 1260 in one month.

Obama gets results!!

The nice thing about the Obama Bear Market is that its probable end point is fairly easy to determine. In fact, I'll risk a forecast of November 5th right now.

The Spengler and Forstman pieces are interesting in the "Chicken Little" sense but the sky really doesn't start falling until you see total tax receipts drop. The IRS provides annual data which can be supplemented by watching monthly SS stats. First-half year over year comparison of total employment taxes shows an increase of 3.3%. Nothing spectacular but not indicative of any large chunks of sky crashing to the ground. The world ending recession of '92-'93 (you do remember the end of the world in '92-'93? It was in all the papers...) which resulted in Bubba's ascendancy resulted in a YoY increase of .9% in employment tax receipts.

[Jane]

Didn't someone say somewhere (I don't know how to search here) that only 3 people were on a Swiftboat at any given time?)

[centralcal]

Happy Birthday W!

[centralcal]

Porchlight: Well, there ya go! If the party does the vetting, then anybody can run for President on the Dem side - they'll just ignore any constitutional requirements that don't work for their chosen one.

[clarice]

Yes, Jane. I don't remember the thread or the poster. Was it Boris?

[centralcal]

Harrumph. AJ Strata says the COLB is real and the forgery claims a myth.

So, there ya go (for the time being anyway).

[clarice]

ever since the plutonium poisoning in London, AJ and I have failed to see eye to eye on much. I agree there may be nothing in the end to the story but I do believe the docs posted on Kos and STS are fakes.

[Porchlight]

centralcal,

I think the idea is that it is in the parties' interests not to anyone who isn't Constitutionally qualified, so they will do due diligence accordingly. Dems have a hard time figuring out what's in their best interests apparently.

[Porchlight]

***not to RUN anyone***

[boris]

only 3 people were on a Swiftboat at any given time

Not boris. Most likely Danube of Thought posting as Other Tom.

[Jane]

Just my luck. My source is in Italy. Harummph.

Is anyone else being told their comments must be screened? All I said was that the democrat convention is predicted to be a disaster.

[Porchlight]

FWIW, AJ makes a couple of claims that he doesn't back up convincingly:

"You can go and see the same anti-aliasing around the letters, and a much firmer date and seal stamp impression (someone was clearly getting some aggressions out that day!). Download it and zoom in on to see the anti-aliasing for yourself."

Would have been more convincing if he'd provided a magnification himself. I couldn't see it when I zoomed in on the Decosta certificate. But maybe that's just my error.

"But more than that, numerous people have called the state of Hawaii who initially claimed the document was legit, and that they did provide a new copy to Obama on the date noted on the back."

Anyone recall Hawaii confirming that they sent a copy to Obama last summer? I don't remember seeing this. Seems like it would be a violation of confidentiality to provide this information.

He also does not address the blacked-out certificate number.

[Pofarmer]

"The parties are supposed to vet their candidates."

Isn't that like hiring the fox to gaurd the henhouse?

[larwyn]

McCarthy at the Corner posted on O!'s COLB:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDc5ZDkwMjhmZDFkMGE0ODVmNmQ4NzE0M2NjMDNjNzU=

Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama's Eligibility to be President? [Andy McCarthy]

I had not caught up until today with this apparent controversy over whether the Hawaii birth certificate proffered by Obama's campaign is a forgery and whether there are legitimate questions about whether he was born in the United States — if he wasn't, he almost certainly would not be qualified under the Constitution and relevant immigration statutes to be president. Our Jim Geraghty seemed to pooh-pooh the birth certificate controversy about a week ago, but according to the above cited report (at a site called DougRoss@Journal) and a new one from Israeli Insider, there are new developments, and the Obama campaign appears to be stonewalling. Shouldn't it be a fairly easy matter to prove he was born in Hawaii if he really was? Why wouldn't Obama just end this quickly?

Is there anything to this?

ADDENDUM: I should add to the above that I am not a conspiracy theorist. My predisposition on the many stories floating around about Obama and his circle is to ignore them on the following theory: If there was really anything to this or that, the Clintons would have found it and gotten their media friends all over it. This story about Obama's eligibility puzzles me because (a) it is so basic, (b) it should be so easy to prove the relevant facts of his birth, (c) the Obama campaign's response to the story is bizarre, and (d) it seems to be getting worse rather than resolved.

07/06 12:09 PM

[larwyn]

OOOOPS

[pagar]

"anyone can run for President on the Democrat ticket."

I don't believe that is true. One has to have the support of those who are against America to run as a Democrat. For example, look at Sen Leiberman, had all the right positions except he believed in America winning. He was thrown out of the Party, and the Democrats ran someone who said that America could not win. That was just for a Senate seat. Hard to imagine that they would
run someone who believed in America for President.

[pagar]

Maybe Obama was vetted by a different political party.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/communist-party-backs-obama

lun

[larwyn]

i CLOSED BOLD!! doing it again!